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Title: Were would we be now?
Post by: Parts on August 25, 2009, 08:30:27 PM
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So discuss
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Blasted on August 25, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
Religion sucks.  It's for deluded eejs.  I reckon we would have mastered time travel by now.  Or at least cure for cancer.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Parts on August 25, 2009, 08:42:43 PM
Posted it on WP to see the reaction here most will agree with me but there I'll have some fun
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: earthboundmisfit on August 25, 2009, 10:10:55 PM


Link? I want to see them melt down over that.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Callaway on August 25, 2009, 10:14:51 PM


Link? I want to see them melt down over that.

 ;D

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt106177.html
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 25, 2009, 10:25:05 PM


Link? I want to see them melt down over that.

 ;D

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt106177.html

Figures, they are way too serious business about it.

But it's true, Religions like that impeded scientific progress because it threatened the ideology. The religious leaders didn't want the facts revealed, because it would have dismantled the belief system, and then they would have lost their power and wealth over the masses.

But then if only they knew the potential power of technology back then, and how to use it as a stealth weapon of propaganda and social manipulation.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: earthboundmisfit on August 25, 2009, 10:28:36 PM




Link? I want to see them melt down over that.

 ;D

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt106177.html


Typical discussion on religion;  a lot of talking, but no one listening.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on August 25, 2009, 10:43:51 PM
But that's Wankplanet all over, isn't it......
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 25, 2009, 10:46:21 PM
But that's Wankplanet all over, isn't it......

I love the irony though, the AS fanatics on WP will say that Aspies can manage the world better, and yet they bicker on exactly like NTs when it comes to controversial issues.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Icequeen on August 25, 2009, 11:24:19 PM
I've always thought of religion as the ultimate means of controling a society.

People don't fear weapons or technology as much as they fear the unknown/death. So tell them something to alleviate their fears and you gain their trust and obedience.

Seeing has always been believing for me. If I don't have tangible proof, I find something very hard to grasp.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 26, 2009, 12:11:06 AM
Why fear death?

I find the idea of having no conception of existence and time a rather comforting thought. It's the idea of being trapped forever at my current identity right now that would be hell for me. When I die, I want to cease to be until maybe after a few quadrillion years and come back, reborn as something completely different in a reborn universe, with no memories of my past existences.

The time frame is optional, doesn't matter if that happens after a shorter or longer period, I'm dead, I wouldn't conceive time.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on August 26, 2009, 12:23:51 AM
Why fear death?

I find the idea of having no conception of existence and time a rather comforting thought. It's the idea of being trapped forever at my current identity right now that would be hell for me. When I die, I want to cease to be until maybe after a few quadrillion years, and come back as something completely different in a reborn universe, with no memories of my past existences.

The timeframe is optional, but still, the idea of being refreshed every life time is nice.

Reincarnation. As you say, why fear what is inevitable? You can't avoid death, and will eventually have to face it sooner or later. Christainity and their afterlife are bollocks, becuase the Christians put a price on what is likely to happen if you take certain steps (well, so do pagans, but we aren't so worried about the ramifications as they are - to us there is no heaven or hell). But if you've already accepted the consequences of death, then there is no point worrying.

Anyway, the best quote I've heard on it all was from 'Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life'; which is, 'you come from nothing and you're going back to nothing, so what have you lost? Nothing'.

Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: earthboundmisfit on August 26, 2009, 08:32:55 AM


Anyway, the best quote I've heard on it all was from 'Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life'; which is, 'you come from nothing and you're going back to nothing, so what have you lost? Nothing'.


"Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: TheoK on September 03, 2009, 04:08:17 AM
Religion sucks.  It's for deluded eejs.  I reckon we would have mastered time travel by now.  Or at least cure for cancer.

Cure for cancer most certainly. Time travel might not be physically possible but we would probably have had tourist trips to the planets in our own solar system.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: odeon on September 03, 2009, 02:28:20 PM
They'd be able to fix my eyes.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Adam on September 03, 2009, 05:12:55 PM
in the secular republic, cancer cures you
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: Phlexor on September 04, 2009, 01:16:50 AM
We'd probably have those flying cars and electric walkways everywhere LIKE THEY GODDAMN PROMISED US WE HAVE in the 21st century.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on September 04, 2009, 01:27:47 AM
And fucking Moonbase Alpha would have been up and running, and Huey, Dewey and Louie would be looking after those biospheres out near Jupiter.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: TheoK on September 04, 2009, 02:04:00 AM
We'd probably have those flying cars and electric walkways everywhere LIKE THEY GODDAMN PROMISED US WE HAVE in the 21st century.

Yup. When I started school in 1978 they asked us kids what we thought it would be like in year 2008. Most of us thought that we'd be flying instead of driving cars.
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: odeon on September 04, 2009, 02:27:29 PM
I thought we'd have a base on the moon, in any case. :(
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: 'andersom' on September 04, 2009, 03:16:53 PM
Those Romans were pretty brutal in throwing away odd kids, so, there might have been an effective 'cure' for our kind of people. Especially for the ones that don't fit in in the pedigree idea about functioning autistics.

And going to the toilet could still have been the social thing to do.  :zombiefuck:

(Oh, it is in some places in Sweden, according to Lit, and the Romans never got that far up north.)
Title: Re: Were would we be now?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on September 04, 2009, 06:11:55 PM
Hell, maybe if someone had given Constantine a few uppercuts when he got his 'vision', then they might have.....