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Title: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 01:05:42 PM
I don't personally care if someone wants to fuck their sister. Blood relatives shouldn't be allowed to reproduce though.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 05, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
So you're cool with your brothers fucking you, when they reach puberty?  :orly:
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 01:18:28 PM
No. Obviously you need consent. Personally I don't think I would want to fuck anyone I was related to (definitely none that I know of now anyway)

But if two (or more) adult relatives all want to fuck each other, let them
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 05, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
You wouldn't consent to that??  :zoinks:

I thought you were a sicko-pervert.

You just don't seem as cool as you used to be.

I'm not sure I can be seen hanging out with you anymore.  :orly:
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 01:26:08 PM
What if i admited to enjoying sexual encounters with a banana-wielding monkey?
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Callaway on November 05, 2010, 01:39:02 PM
I don't personally care if someone wants to fuck their sister. Blood relatives shouldn't be allowed to reproduce though.

EWWW, gross!

Can you imagine having sex with one of your brothers when they grow up, or them having sex with one another?

:puke:
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
???

If they are adults, however disgusting I would find it, it should be up to them. Especially as there would be no risk of either of them giving birth to a fucked up kid. I find alsorts of sexual acts between other people disgusting. What about very old people? Fat ugly hair people? I don't like to think of my parents havign sex either. Lots of sexual relationships are disgusting to others. The question is whether we should have the right to prevent them. And imo we shouldn't

And no, as I previously said, I don't want to have sex with any of my relatives.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 05, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
What if i admited to enjoying sexual encounters with a banana-wielding monkey?

Now you're talkin! keep with that theme and add to it a little, perhaps throw in a homosexual donkey dressed in black lingere and that might be cool.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: richard on November 05, 2010, 04:39:36 PM
I need some hot cousin sex :M
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Icequeen on November 05, 2010, 04:54:43 PM
I've seen kids who where the product of this. Every one of them had learning disabilities and problems of some sort.

Shit like this happened years ago. Men got married, and either the wife died or left, and the younger sister would move in to take care of the kids.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Kids shouldn't be the produce of it though. There's nothing wrong with two brothers having sex for example. They're not gonna have kids
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: richard on November 05, 2010, 05:01:09 PM
now I wanna see two brothers having sex  :laugh:
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 05, 2010, 08:49:03 PM
Well, I think it's alright between husband and wife.

And it's almost a requirement in royal circles.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Celticgoddess on November 05, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
Time for a bizarre but true story. Have a seat children, this is a good one.

I had a neighbour who went in search of his birth parents. He was adopted, married, had 2 children in their teens. Found his birth  mother (father had passed away) and they talked by phone. Everything was great. Flew out to meet his mother and 2 sisters.

Lo and behold...something happens...details are rather sketchy...but leaves his wife for his birth sister.  :zombiefuck: Now granted he didn't meet her until his late 40's but he decided to end his marriage, moved to the province to be with her and years later they're still together and happy. he was furious that his teenage children did not hop on board with his new found love and rebelled. Dude....what did you expect? What's weird is that when I see pics of her, she looks soooo much like his kids. But they're still together and the kids love her. Weird.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 05, 2010, 09:48:54 PM
???

If they are adults, however disgusting I would find it, it should be up to them. Especially as there would be no risk of either of them giving birth to a fucked up kid. I find alsorts of sexual acts between other people disgusting. What about very old people? Fat ugly hair people? I don't like to think of my parents havign sex either. Lots of sexual relationships are disgusting to others. The question is whether we should have the right to prevent them. And imo we shouldn't

And no, as I previously said, I don't want to have sex with any of my relatives.

Ahem.  I'm 61 and Prince Albert will be 69 in January.  Being older means finding other ways to bring pleasure to each other.  The joints don't bend like they used to, the bed frame creaks too much (can't waken the Princess Royal), etc.  We have learned the freedom of age, love outside (back yard) in the moonlight, making out like youngsters in the car parked behind the gym and laughing about it, etc.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Celticgoddess on November 05, 2010, 09:55:15 PM
???

If they are adults, however disgusting I would find it, it should be up to them. Especially as there would be no risk of either of them giving birth to a fucked up kid. I find alsorts of sexual acts between other people disgusting. What about very old people? Fat ugly hair people? I don't like to think of my parents havign sex either. Lots of sexual relationships are disgusting to others. The question is whether we should have the right to prevent them. And imo we shouldn't

And no, as I previously said, I don't want to have sex with any of my relatives.

Ahem.  I'm 61 and Prince Albert will be 69 in January.  Being older means finding other ways to bring pleasure to each other.  The joints don't bend like they used to, the bed frame creaks too much (can't waken the Princess Royal), etc.  We have learned the freedom of age, love outside (back yard) in the moonlight, making out like youngsters in the car parked behind the gym and laughing about it, etc.

First off, 61 isn't old. And that's what i want to be like when I'm that age. A beautiful thing indeed.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 05, 2010, 09:57:45 PM
???

If they are adults, however disgusting I would find it, it should be up to them. Especially as there would be no risk of either of them giving birth to a fucked up kid. I find alsorts of sexual acts between other people disgusting. What about very old people? Fat ugly hair people? I don't like to think of my parents havign sex either. Lots of sexual relationships are disgusting to others. The question is whether we should have the right to prevent them. And imo we shouldn't

And no, as I previously said, I don't want to have sex with any of my relatives.

Ahem.  I'm 61 and Prince Albert will be 69 in January.  Being older means finding other ways to bring pleasure to each other.  The joints don't bend like they used to, the bed frame creaks too much (can't waken the Princess Royal), etc.  We have learned the freedom of age, love outside (back yard) in the moonlight, making out like youngsters in the car parked behind the gym and laughing about it, etc.

First off, 61 isn't old. And that's what i want to be like when I'm that age. A beautiful thing indeed.

Yeah, every once in a while you have to remind the younger generations that they didn't invent premarital sex, drugs, sin, etc.  And if practice doesn't make perfect, at least it's fun.

I also need to add that now a days I'm known as a cheap date because he doesn't have to buy me a meal. LOL
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Adam on November 05, 2010, 09:59:18 PM
Nothing wrong with old people having sex, but if they're wrinkly and saggy then it disgusts me the same way thinking about two brothers having sex disgusts Callaway. That's all. A lot of people having sex would disgust me as most people aren't attractive to me
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Osensitive1 on November 05, 2010, 10:10:52 PM
Time for a bizarre but true story. Have a seat children, this is a good one.

I had a neighbour who went in search of his birth parents. He was adopted, married, had 2 children in their teens. Found his birth  mother (father had passed away) and they talked by phone. Everything was great. Flew out to meet his mother and 2 sisters.

Lo and behold...something happens...details are rather sketchy...but leaves his wife for his birth sister.  :zombiefuck: Now granted he didn't meet her until his late 40's but he decided to end his marriage, moved to the province to be with her and years later they're still together and happy. he was furious that his teenage children did not hop on board with his new found love and rebelled. Dude....what did you expect? What's weird is that when I see pics of her, she looks soooo much like his kids. But they're still together and the kids love her. Weird.

Read of something similar years ago, only they didn't know until after they met and fell in love. Can't remember all the details but it was father and daughter.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: MLA on February 24, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: 'andersom' on February 25, 2015, 04:24:57 AM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.

There are cultures where cousins are allowed to tie the knot, and cultures where having the same family name can be enough to ban a marriage.

What is seen as family life boundaries for sex is culture bound.

In lots of old cultures cousin relationships were favoured, because it kept money within the family. It did bring diseases withing families too, if that kept going on generation after generation.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Arya Quinn on February 25, 2015, 06:20:44 AM
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Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Parts on February 25, 2015, 10:30:14 AM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.

There are cultures where cousins are allowed to tie the knot, and cultures where having the same family name can be enough to ban a marriage.

What is seen as family life boundaries for sex is culture bound.

In lots of old cultures cousin relationships were favoured, because it kept money within the family. It did bring diseases withing families too, if that kept going on generation after generation.

And it worked out great for them :zoinks:
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Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: RageBeoulve on February 25, 2015, 09:12:59 PM
Yes actually, it should be legal. I am of the opinion that most everything should be "legal". But this does not mean that any individual is exempt from the consequences of their actions. Law or not, people will be ostracized for fucking their relatives, and I think that's perfectly normal.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
Yes actually, it should be legal. I am of the opinion that most everything should be "legal". But this does not mean that any individual is exempt from the consequences of their actions. Law or not, people will be ostracized for fucking their relatives, and I think that's perfectly normal.
It's the offspring that suffer, the ones that actually survive anyway, as the rates of congenital defect is alarming. Recalling discussing this before.


One level of incest doesnt really up the chances of deformed babies that much.
Wasn't sure, so looked and it's quite high. Clinical study read was about 60% congenital defect with about 40% severe.
How frequent are congential defects if your family tree isn't a pole?
Depends on the country, but wikipedia says 320-400 per 100,000 in the US.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Walkie on February 25, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
Yeah, Jack, but Rage wasn't saying he approved, just that it shouldn't be illegal.
I think he has a point.  I don't really get how most people think that if it isn';t a good thing, whatever it is, then there ought to be a law  against it.   
As if legislation is the panacea to cure all ills.
I just don't buy that.

In the case in point: if the  attendant social strigma doesn't stop people, I very much doubt that the law would stop 'em either. But it might help more solicitors get rich.

Yes actually, it should be legal. I am of the opinion that most everything should be "legal". But this does not mean that any individual is exempt from the consequences of their actions. Law or not, people will be ostracized for fucking their relatives, and I think that's perfectly normal.
It's the offspring that suffer, the ones that actually survive anyway, as the rates of congenital defect is alarming. Recalling discussing this before.


One level of incest doesnt really up the chances of deformed babies that much.
Wasn't sure, so looked and it's quite high. Clinical study read was about 60% congenital defect with about 40% severe.
How frequent are congential defects if your family tree isn't a pole?
Depends on the country, but wikipedia says 320-400 per 100,000 in the US.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: El on February 26, 2015, 07:01:30 AM
I agree with the sentiment that it shouldn't be illegal, but the social stigma is A-OK with me.

Hypothetically I wonder what nondiscrimination laws would be (or are) put into place for adults who are in incestuous relationships.  Or should.  I can see it being taken to a place where doctors were sued for warning their patients that their offspring were at increased risk.

If we're going with the legal aspect being justifiable due to potential birth defects or genetic disorders, though, we go down that same ol' creepy path that eugenics tends to go (aka the question of where the line is drawn).  I mean, we can talk that one out, or we can just jump right to the hilter/holocaust comparisons and talk about evil curbies wanting forced abortions for potentially autistic children and call it a day.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2015, 05:34:17 PM
Yeah, Jack, but Rage wasn't saying he approved, just that it shouldn't be illegal.
Understood that and wasn't disagreeing with either, but rather thinking about his statement about consequences of actions which only included social stigma.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: Arya Quinn on February 26, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
Yes actually, it should be legal. I am of the opinion that most everything should be "legal". But this does not mean that any individual is exempt from the consequences of their actions. Law or not, people will be ostracized for fucking their relatives, and I think that's perfectly normal.
It's the offspring that suffer, the ones that actually survive anyway, as the rates of congenital defect is alarming. Recalling discussing this before.

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Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: MLA on February 27, 2015, 03:22:17 PM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.

There are cultures where cousins are allowed to tie the knot, and cultures where having the same family name can be enough to ban a marriage.

What is seen as family life boundaries for sex is culture bound.

In lots of old cultures cousin relationships were favoured, because it kept money within the family. It did bring diseases withing families too, if that kept going on generation after generation.

Depends on where you draw the line.  No culture has ever embraced siblings or parents.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: 'andersom' on February 27, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.

There are cultures where cousins are allowed to tie the knot, and cultures where having the same family name can be enough to ban a marriage.

What is seen as family life boundaries for sex is culture bound.

In lots of old cultures cousin relationships were favoured, because it kept money within the family. It did bring diseases withing families too, if that kept going on generation after generation.

Depends on where you draw the line.  No culture has ever embraced siblings or parents.

And siblings or parents are off limits with many other living species too.
Title: Re: Should sex between relatives be legal?
Post by: MLA on February 27, 2015, 06:14:47 PM
The social policy behind outlawing this kind of behavior is larger than just the unfortunate biological side effects.  It's important that there are relationships and community where sex is just out of the question.  Sexualizing family life would lead to the ultimate breakdown of the family unit as we know it.

There are cultures where cousins are allowed to tie the knot, and cultures where having the same family name can be enough to ban a marriage.

What is seen as family life boundaries for sex is culture bound.

In lots of old cultures cousin relationships were favoured, because it kept money within the family. It did bring diseases withing families too, if that kept going on generation after generation.

Depends on where you draw the line.  No culture has ever embraced siblings or parents.

And siblings or parents are off limits with many other living species too.

If they weren't they probably wouldn't still be around :)