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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: purposefulinsanity on November 05, 2006, 09:24:38 AM
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/05112006/325/shaken-saddam-sentenced-hang.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/05112006/325/shaken-saddam-sentenced-hang.html)
Since we had differing opinions on whether or not capital punishment was right recently I wonder what people's thoughts are on this. For those against capital punishment do you think that in the case it is deserved or do you still feel it is wrong?
What about the claims that Saddam didn't receive a fair trial? Or suggestions that the verdict was timed to help the Republicans at the elections on Tuesday?
Also what about the method they will use, hanging, should a more modern method (e.g. lethal injection) be used?
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This will just lead to more unrest from Sunni groups who already feel (with some justification due to many less official summary executions by the Shi-ite authorities that much resemble Saddam Hussiens tactics, though at least there was less unrest when he was in charge) that they are being ganged up on by the American lead Shi'ite and Kurd groups. The safety of the conviction is also doubful (though not the man's guilt) so the international court at the hague, for all it's faults. should have tryed him and he should have ended his days in jail. Not a Shi'ite and American led execution.
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I agree that an international trial would have been a better idea than being tried within a country that is on the brink of civil war
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Personally I think the whole mideast incursion is an attempt by the Illuminati world shadow government to "retake Babylon" and that this will be their first formal human sacrifice. Look for his execution to correspond to some astrolological event, Babylonian holiday, and/ or to have some numerological significance. The oil is just an excuse; the world is moving toward renewable energy sources anyway.
I don't believe in cap. punishment, to answer the initial post.
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good. i hope they put his hanging on tv
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Personally I think the whole mideast incursion is an attempt by the Illuminati world shadow government to "retake Babylon" and that this will be their first formal human sacrifice.
Of course, that is obviously the most logical conclusion! But don't you think Dracula might be involved in some way?
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Personally I think the whole mideast incursion is an attempt by the Illuminati world shadow government to "retake Babylon" and that this will be their first formal human sacrifice.
Of course, that is obviously the most logical conclusion! But don't you think Dracula might be involved in some way?
haha true. im so sick of these people thinking there is some secret government lurking in the shadows, there aint shit like that. its all a spinoff of religious babble bullshit.
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I'm against capital punishment, and think that the trial should have been held in Hague.
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Looks like America's puppet dictator is passed his sell-by-date.
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Personally I think the whole mideast incursion is an attempt by the Illuminati world shadow government to "retake Babylon" and that this will be their first formal human sacrifice. Look for his execution to correspond to some astrolological event, Babylonian holiday, and/ or to have some numerological significance. The oil is just an excuse; the world is moving toward renewable energy sources anyway.
I don't believe in cap. punishment, to answer the initial post.
The Illuminati is just a cover story for the Worldwide Frankenstein Computer-God Containment Policy. ::)
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Looks like America's puppet dictator is passed his sell-by-date.
Since when was Saddam ANYBODY'S puppet??
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Looks like America's puppet dictator is passed his sell-by-date.
Since when was Saddam ANYBODY'S puppet??
Well, he was trained by the CIA, just like our good pal Mr Bin-Liner.
Silly 21st century Roman.
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They're letting him off easy. When will the political world respect that in our justice system there exists an unofficial but prevelant punishment known as prison rape, and that it is extremely effective in making prisoners lives hell on earth.
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Death penalty is fine with me and everyone knew he was guilty in the first place. Finally, I do not care how Saddam is killed, but if he is killed on the taxpayers dime then use the cheapest method possible.
Looks like America's puppet dictator is passed his sell-by-date.
Since when was Saddam ANYBODY'S puppet??
Well, he was trained by the CIA, just like our good pal Mr Bin-Liner.
Everybody has been either the puppet of the US or the USSR. It is difficult to name the people that have been in power that long that HAVEN'T been a puppet for one of the major powers. This cannot really be considered America turning its back on one of its puppets though considering that Saddam hasn't been our puppet for over a decade or so.
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I had an argument with a friend about osama bin laden. Because they said that if they ever caught osama bin laden, then wouldn't hold his trial in a state that had the death penality. And i'm like, "I don't care." My friend was like, "I'll blow the towel off his head." Cause that is who I hang out with. He was all bent out of shape about it. "How come you aint upset, I know you're pro death penality, how come this don't make you mad?" Me? Because I know spiritually osama bin laden is prepared to die for islam. But I guarentee you that spiritually osama bin laden is ill prepared to lick jelly out of Thunderdick's buttcrack.
Osama: "I hate grape jelly."
Thunderdick: "Shut up and lick my butt."
And you gotta do a good job too, because you're in this until thunderdick comes it aint just a nah nah there i did it. No gotta you try. You gotta tickle the inside of thunderdicks thigh. You gotta fondle thunderdicks nutsack a little bit. Because if you don't make him come pretty quick... you're gonna run out of jelly.
This whole routine is paraphrase from a ron white bit.
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I had an argument with a friend about osama bin laden. Because they said that if they ever caught osama bin laden, then wouldn't hold his trial in a state that had the death penality. And i'm like, "I don't care." My friend was like, "I'll blow the towel off his head." Cause that is who I hang out with. He was all bent out of shape about it. "How come you aint upset, I know you're pro death penality, how come this don't make you mad?" Me? Because I know spiritually osama bin laden is prepared to die for islam. But I guarentee you that spiritually osama bin laden is ill prepared to lick jelly out of Thunderdick's buttcrack.
Osama: "I hate grape jelly."
Thunderdick: "Shut up and lick my butt."
And you gotta do a good job too, because you're in this until thunderdick comes it aint just a nah nah there i did it. No gotta you try. You gotta tickle the inside of thunderdicks thigh. You gotta fondle thunderdicks nutsack a little bit. Because if you don't make him come pretty quick... you're gonna run out of jelly.
This whole routine is paraphrase from a ron white bit.
Osama will not get raped, the reason being that if he goes to real prison it will be the same thing as the death penalty. I mean, Osama is a love/hate type of guy, if he isn't your freedom fighter then he is your sworn enemy. So, if they lock him away, it will be away from most other people and he may go insane but they cannot give him the opportunity required to get raped if they actually want to appear to care about his life.
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Hanging is too lax for a guy like him :tantrum:, an traditional Islamic beheading by the sword in public (it would be televised internationally) would be more in order :flame:
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I know, it will be like child molesters, in prison child molesters get owned. But still, I hope that they explain to the inmates the plan and imply to them to preform their depraved patriotic duty.
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Old fashioned stoning ... widows and orphans get the first few throws.
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He should have been tried in the Hague, but, then again, we should never have been there to begin with! It's just the little shrubs attempt to prove he can do a better job than daddy did! We would have been better off spending the resources in afghanistan. AT least there we had international cooperation.
Quite frankly the middle east deserves saddam! Put him back in power and watch the Iranian Mullahs shit in their robes and enjoy the spectacle as his own people kill him.....which they would have done eventually, without us spending a dime!
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Well, to be honest I think that the question has nothing to do with making Saddam suffer, I'd say that the real necessity is that he is dealt with efficiency. Sure we can argue back and forth about how he should suffer for what he has done etc, the only thing is that the suffering of a non-person is useless. The only just way to deal with the non-person Saddam is to get rid of him whether it is by rope, starving him, or even selling him to be tortured on pay-per-view, the way he is ended hardly matters so long as the world never has to deal with it, and so long as his death benefits the most people possible.
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Honestly, I think that it is stupid to punish people. The only reason they'd kill him or jail him is for popular satisfaction. Honestly I consider that childish. Once a dangerous person is rendered no longer dangerous, i'd rehabilitate them, or release them with a certain measure of control. In short, i consider it a waste of money to kill or jail people. If letting saddam free is too dangerous, i'm sure there are more cost effecient manners to use him than killing or jailing him. Perhaps we could process his body and sell his organs, or donate him to science, or give him to a bunch of necrophiliacs, or enslave him.
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I read a book where a couple of guys tricked someone they had a grudge against into having a few drinks in their cellar. They got the guy drunk, put him in a room, and walled off the room with bricks and mortar. I think that would be a fitting end to Saddam Hussein.
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good. i hope they put his hanging on tv
:LOL:
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The Cask of Amontillado by edgar allen poe.
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I read a book where a couple of guys tricked someone they had a grudge against into having a few drinks in their cellar. They got the guy drunk, put him in a room, and walled off the room with bricks and mortar. I think that would be a fitting end to Saddam Hussein.
Yeah, but wasteful, the labor would be too expensive. I say we really should sell him to some company to have his execution/torture on pay-per-view. That way it costs the state less and we now have a way to find the most popular way to kill Saddam and please many many people.
Honestly, I think that it is stupid to punish people. The only reason they'd kill him or jail him is for popular satisfaction. Honestly I consider that childish. Once a dangerous person is rendered no longer dangerous, i'd rehabilitate them, or release them with a certain measure of control. In short, i consider it a waste of money to kill or jail people. If letting saddam free is too dangerous, i'm sure there are more cost effecient manners to use him than killing or jailing him. Perhaps we could process his body and sell his organs, or donate him to science, or give him to a bunch of necrophiliacs, or enslave him.
If you noticed, all of those efficient options were variations on jailing him or killing him.
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If we jail him, he does nothing but waste resources and get assraped or killed, and if we killed him, we'll just take his corpse and dispose of it. The difference between those options and my options is that my options he is actually made use of. It is less of a waste of money.
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He should have been tried in the Hague, but, then again, we should never have been there to begin with! It's just the little shrubs attempt to prove he can do a better job than daddy did! We would have been better off spending the resources in afghanistan. AT least there we had international cooperation.
Quite frankly the middle east deserves saddam! Put him back in power and watch the Iranian Mullahs shit in their robes and enjoy the spectacle as his own people kill him.....which they would have done eventually, without us spending a dime!
Quoted for truth. This would have been a lot better, and fewer people would have been killed.
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If we jail him, he does nothing but waste resources and get assraped or killed, and if we killed him, we'll just take his corpse and dispose of it. The difference between those options and my options is that my options he is actually made use of. It is less of a waste of money.
My point is that those options are really just variants of the previous options, they are only different in describing what is done. I mean, if we process his body for organs then we have executed him. If we donate him to science we have either killed him to use his body for science or made him a prisoner that we do lab tests on. If we give him to necrophiliacs then we executed that. If we enslave him then he is in some variant of jail.
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i bet saddam smells really, really bad
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i bet saddam smells really, really bad
If not, he will, in time.
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i bet saddam smells really, really bad
If not, he will, in time.
:LOL:
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i bet saddam smells really, really bad
He did, in that hole.
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Yes, we have either jailed or executed him, but we get more use out of him by doing those things than just killing or jailing him. It saves money.
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i bet saddam smells really, really bad
He did, in that hole.
Yeah He did for sure. ;D
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Yes, we have either jailed or executed him, but we get more use out of him by doing those things than just killing or jailing him. It saves money.
I can agree with that sentiment. Which is why I think he should be executed on pay per view. I mean, that could be the viewing event of the season, it would probably bring revenue into the state and it would please a lot of people who want to see Saddam suffer. I don't think that a more valuable method of using Saddam could be thought of.
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Why not just put him back in that hole?
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Why not just put him back in that hole?
And let the Shiites have first crack at him, or better yet, put the Kurds, Shiites and Suuni militias at equal distance from the hole, say 10 miles, clear every building and human being out of those 10 miles, then announce that whoever gets to the hole first can have him and make the new government. Then while they're doing that, (after making sure that he's not rescued by anyone but the Sunni's, if they get there first.) It would be no holds or weapons barred, we stay out of it and while they're doing that pull our troops out of the country, dump the quantanamo bay prisoners right in the middle of the race naked and unarmed.
We could have satellites monitoring the whole shebang on pay per view!
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Sounds a lot better than hanging him. The entertainment value is considerable. :D
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I had one more detail to add, but decided it would be overkill. >:D
Planting a large mega ton nuclear bomb underneath the hole, unknown to everybody. And then when everybody is around the hole fighting over who gets to him, after all innocent civilians have been cleared for miles, set it off! I should also add that we should put all of saddam's cronies and family in with him! Ideally you would get rid of all the radicals and fanatics in one fell swoop! We could also arrange to have shrub and his cronies flying overhead watching the tussle AND JUST HAPPEN to get caught in the blast!
Oh well I can dream can't I! I'm so evil, I'd make a lousy world emperor! :P
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It would make great parking space in about a hundred thousand years or so. :P
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nerve gas sounds like a fitting execution method. :eyebrows: