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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Pyraxis on February 08, 2008, 10:48:13 PM

Title: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Pyraxis on February 08, 2008, 10:48:13 PM
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/issues/memory_manage_index.html

Quote from: Center for Cognitive Liberty and Ethics
On the near horizon are a slew of new pharmaceuticals that we call memory management drugs. Some of these aim to improve memory safely. Other drugs are designed to help people dim or to erase the sort of memories that haunt those suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

In the next five to ten years, these memory-enhancing and memory-diminishing drugs are bound to raise important freedom of thought issues. The CCLE sees a great deal of potential in these pharmaceuticals, while at the same time we seek to identify future legal complications and threats to cognitive liberty, which may arise if used coercively.

For instance, what if emergency room personnel automatically begin giving memory-diminishing drugs to trauma victims? What if you are the victim of a violent crime and want to forget what happened to you, but need those memories in order to testify or identify the perpetrator? What if you are the only eye-witness to a crime, could the government compel you to take a memory-boosting drug at least until you testify in court?

What do you think?
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: GalileoAce on February 08, 2008, 10:53:06 PM
Can I have the pills that make you remember?
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Parts on February 08, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
I think it's some what scary.  Where it might be good for some instances I think it could easily be abused and over used.  Bad things have happened to me but they are a part of me and I don't think I would want to give   up those memories because they make me who I am.  As for compelling people to remember thats not right either unless the person wants i
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Calandale on February 08, 2008, 10:56:48 PM
I want pills that give me exciting new memories.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Soph on February 08, 2008, 10:58:41 PM
i would be VERY tempted to take something like that for a few things that happened when i was younger

i think it's probably a bad idea in general though
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Parts on February 08, 2008, 11:00:02 PM
I want pills that give me exciting new memories.  :zoinks:

I had those in college but they weren't pills but little squares of paper :o
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 08, 2008, 11:01:29 PM
I want pills that give me exciting new memories.  :zoinks:

Mewtoo!
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: vodz on February 08, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
MDMA pills? Can I has?
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Pyraxis on February 08, 2008, 11:04:41 PM
i would be VERY tempted to take something like that for a few things that happened when i was younger

At the moment, they have to be taken within a few hours of the traumatic event. I imagine ones reaching that far into the past would be much harder to develop... how would you get them to target those specific memories and not others?
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Soph on February 08, 2008, 11:07:51 PM
i would be VERY tempted to take something like that for a few things that happened when i was younger

At the moment, they have to be taken within a few hours of the traumatic event. I imagine ones reaching that far into the past would be much harder to develop... how would you get them to target those specific memories and not others?
I have no idea, unlikely anything like that will be around any time soon lol :(
I would definitely like the idea of it though
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Parts on February 08, 2008, 11:16:20 PM
Xanax does this to me if I take too much it can erase an entire night from one or two hours before I take it till I sleep
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Calandale on February 08, 2008, 11:52:09 PM
I want pills that give me exciting new memories.  :zoinks:

I had those in college but they weren't pills but little squares of paper :o

Not the same though. You actually experience those
in real time, no? I want more memories. Kinda like deja
vu.
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: vodz on February 09, 2008, 01:50:55 AM
Video about the use of psychedelics in psychoanalysis/psychotherapy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6540905926032767614 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6540905926032767614) :thumbup:
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Peter on February 09, 2008, 02:46:54 AM
i would be VERY tempted to take something like that for a few things that happened when i was younger

At the moment, they have to be taken within a few hours of the traumatic event. I imagine ones reaching that far into the past would be much harder to develop... how would you get them to target those specific memories and not others?

Cannabinoids have been found to suppress traumatic memories.  I don't know if it works for past events, or only for things that happen while the brain's cannabinoid levels are elevated.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2616-natural-high-helps-banish-bad-memories.html

Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Parts on February 09, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
He is an abuse nobodies mentioned committing a crime the dosing the victims so they forget and can't identify you or even have anything to tell the police. 
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: richard on February 16, 2008, 12:37:18 PM
What do you think?
fantatic idea really, aslong as autistic wernt given them to improve executive disfunction
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Parts on February 16, 2008, 01:44:04 PM
Had some Xanax last night can't remember anything after 9 :-\
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Pyraxis on February 16, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
I wonder if, when the pills suppress your memory of the bad event, they also suppress whatever coping patterns you would otherwise have developed. Like if you're attacked and raped on the street, even if you don't remember how bad it was, will you still feel compelled to avoid that particular neighborhood? Will you still get uneasy around people who look like the one who attacked you, and just not know why?
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Dexter Morgan on February 16, 2008, 06:31:30 PM
I have these pills, but I always forget to take them :zoinks:
Title: Re: Pills to make you forget
Post by: Silk on February 18, 2008, 01:52:05 PM
I have these pills, but I always forget to take them :zoinks:

I would probably laugh at that if it didn't happen to be true in my case.