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Title: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 10, 2013, 02:02:35 AM
:rofl:

Quote from: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/florida-slot-machine-law/index.html
(CNN) -- Did Florida just accidentally make all computers and smartphones illegal?

The state recently passed a bill to crack down on gambling in Internet cafes. In a potentially unfortunate twist for anyone using a computer or smartphone in the state, a new lawsuit alleges the wording on the bill is so broad that it could be interpreted as a ban on any device connected to the Internet.

A new bill passed two months ago by the Florida legislature expanded the definition of a "slot machine" so that it would include regular computers being used as makeshift slot machines, closing a loophole in state laws that legislators said allowed some gambling centers to operate as Internet cafes and adult arcades.

The crackdown was kicked off by a multi-year investigation of a number of Florida gambling cafes that were masquerading as part of a charitable organization. It resulted in more than 50 arrests, the resignation of Florida Lt. Governor Jennifer Carroll and the new bill banning Internet cafes.

"There are unintended consequences of hastily passed legislation in the wake of a scandal," said attorney Justin Kaplan, whose firm Kluger, Kaplan, Silverman, Katzen & Levine is representing the plaintiff in the suit.

This lawsuit, which was published by the Miami Herald, is being brought on behalf of Incredible Investments, LLC, and its owner Consuelo Zapata. The company ran an Internet cafe in Homestead, a farming community south of Miami. Zapata's cafe offered game promotions to visitors, When they purchased time on one of the machines they could use the computer to see if they'd won anything. The lawsuit compares these "sweepstakes drawings" to common company contests such as McDonald's Monopoly game.

Florida's new, expanded definition of a slot machine includes "any machine or device or system or network of devices" used to play games of chance or skill, which can be activated by not just inserting money, but an "account number, code, or other object or information."

According to the lawsuit, this new definition could include any smartphone or computer in Florida since, in theory, any device with access to the Internet could be used to play an illegal game.

"The possibilities of going on the Internet and using your phone generally turns every single smartphone, computer, whatever, into an illegal slot machine," said Kaplan.

For example, a recent Bud Light advertising campaign shows a man entering a code from a case of beer into his smartphone to see if he won a prize from the company.

"Clearly you have a device which is activated by input of a code that indirectly, by any element of chance, entitles you to a payout," said Kaplan of the contest.

Anyone can walk into a public library and use its computers to participate in a March Madness contest, such as Yahoo's annual Tourney Pick 'em, which offers a grand prize of $10,000. According to Kaplan, the owner of that network of computers could be in trouble for running illegal slot machines.

The definition of what is or isn't a slot machine isn't the only issue with the new law. Kaplan says that the law is unconstitutional because of an amendment that presumes a device is a slot machine if "it is used to display images of games of chance" and involves a payout of anything of value.

"Here the burden is shifted," said Kaplan. "It's saying you are presumed to be guilty, now prove to us this really wasn't a slot machine."

Arcades and business with standalone gaming machines are being impacted as well, and more than 1,000 Internet cafes have already been shut down under the new law, according to the Tampa Bay Times.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 10, 2013, 05:56:48 AM
Oh my gawwwwddddd.  There is too much stupid in this world.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Pyraxis on July 10, 2013, 07:23:37 AM
Oh noes!

 :hide:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Pyraxis on July 10, 2013, 07:25:17 AM
So if a place offers wireless internet access and coffee, like the airport, does that make it an internet cafe?  :tard:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: TheoK on July 10, 2013, 08:25:28 AM
What a farce  :facepalm2:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: bodie on July 10, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
It's madness gone mad!   :tard:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: sg1008 on July 10, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
OMFG.  :mischief:

I would like to be a florida cop right now. I would walk down the street arresting people. Shutting down starbucks, closing libraries. It would be so much fun.

 :facepalm2:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Queen Victoria on July 10, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
does anyone remember the Florida hanging chad election?  Someone on TV said that someone put the "duh" in Floriduh.

(I guess North and South Duhkota could count also if they did something.)
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 10, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
does anyone remember the Florida hanging chad election?  Someone on TV said that someone put the "duh" in Floriduh.

(I guess North and South Duhkota could count also if they did something.)
I was in high school.  I still remember the boys in my classes saying "recount!" at least once a day, if there was the least bit of contextual opportunity.  (It was high school, so, in class, the girls were silent, before someone asks.   ::) )
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Parts on July 10, 2013, 06:12:43 PM
To jail for the lot of them those scum sucking computer/smart phone owners make me sick
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 11, 2013, 01:03:53 AM
So if a place offers wireless internet access and coffee, like the airport, does that make it an internet cafe?  :tard:

Yes. They need to take immediate action. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 11, 2013, 08:34:49 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6e40872ac94aafbaf6dd53149ed6bb43/tumblr_mj82ikzLds1rziwwco1_400.png)

That's right, stupid dumbass lawmakers. MORE. Keep attacking the liberties of the people until their patience wears out. I can't wait to see you all put in prison for life. I can't wait to be safe from you.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 12, 2013, 12:34:26 AM
I'm really looking forward to what happens next. They *should* follow the law.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Parts on July 12, 2013, 05:16:48 AM
Kinda like when New York recently passed a bunch of gun restrictions but forgot to put in an exemption for the police making many of the magazines they use illegal
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 12, 2013, 05:59:52 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6e40872ac94aafbaf6dd53149ed6bb43/tumblr_mj82ikzLds1rziwwco1_400.png)

That's right, stupid dumbass lawmakers. MORE. Keep attacking the liberties of the people until their patience wears out. I can't wait to see you all put in prison for life. I can't wait to be safe from you.
Yeah, that'll happen.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 12, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6e40872ac94aafbaf6dd53149ed6bb43/tumblr_mj82ikzLds1rziwwco1_400.png)

That's right, stupid dumbass lawmakers. MORE. Keep attacking the liberties of the people until their patience wears out. I can't wait to see you all put in prison for life. I can't wait to be safe from you.
Yeah, that'll happen.

Even spineless cowards have a limit.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 12, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
No they don't.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: TheoK on July 12, 2013, 08:31:11 PM
That's why they are spineless cowards  :grrr:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Parts on July 12, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
I think they should start arresting people starting with the people who voted for the law seeing how they have no excuse should have known better since they voted for it
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: TheoK on July 12, 2013, 10:42:36 PM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 13, 2013, 01:43:53 AM
I still think it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: TheoK on July 13, 2013, 01:56:30 AM
 :agreed: Only in America  :tard:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Bastet on July 13, 2013, 06:54:32 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=jB2fexv5LDE (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=jB2fexv5LDE)
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 13, 2013, 09:18:33 AM
I think they should start arresting people starting with the people who voted for the law seeing how they have no excuse should have known better since they voted for it
Yeah, that'll happen.  :P





Though, agreed, that would be sweet.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 13, 2013, 02:25:20 PM
Yeah! It should be against the law, under threat of prison if one votes for something without understanding it. That would solve EVERYTHING! :)

Bwahaha yeah that'll happen. Agreed.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Bastet on July 13, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
I am not so sure this law was passed by accident.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Parts on July 13, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
I think they should start arresting people starting with the people who voted for the law seeing how they have no excuse should have known better since they voted for it
Yeah, that'll happen.  :P





Though, agreed, that would be sweet.

Your right, unfortunately they will all probably be re elected also.   
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2013, 02:38:07 AM
They've done such a good job that of course they'll be re-elected. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Bastet on July 14, 2013, 12:26:55 PM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 14, 2013, 01:27:24 PM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
You give the rest of the world too much credit.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Parts on July 14, 2013, 01:42:11 PM
I will have to ask my sister to turn herself in when I call her today :2thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Bastet on July 14, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
You give the rest of the world too much credit.


I meant in the US. Based on viewing gore online, Brazil may be the craziest in the world. I recall a child decapitated the he body cut up and fed to dogs or wild animals of some sort. She was 9 years old and had the surname Oliveira. This was on b0g. It even had a picture. When she was alive. I cant find it now because b0g was party vanned. :violin:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 14, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
You give the rest of the world too much credit.


I meant in the US. Based on viewing gore online, Brazil may be the craziest in the world. I recall a child decapitated the he body cut up and fed to dogs or wild animals of some sort. She was 9 years old and had the surname Oliveira. This was on b0g. It even had a picture. When she was alive. I cant find it now because b0g was party vanned. :violin:
You give the rest of the US too much credit.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Bastet on July 14, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
You give the rest of the world too much credit.


I meant in the US. Based on viewing gore online, Brazil may be the craziest in the world. I recall a child decapitated the he body cut up and fed to dogs or wild animals of some sort. She was 9 years old and had the surname Oliveira. This was on b0g. It even had a picture. When she was alive. I cant find it now because b0g was party vanned. :violin:
You give the rest of the US too much credit.

That's true. There's your family to consider. :P

Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: El on July 15, 2013, 05:52:21 AM
People in Florida are fucking crazy. All the freakiest shit happens there.
You give the rest of the world too much credit.
Sadly, based on what else I've seen, my family actually isn't anywhere near as extreme as it often gets even just as a result of a little less money and education.

I meant in the US. Based on viewing gore online, Brazil may be the craziest in the world. I recall a child decapitated the he body cut up and fed to dogs or wild animals of some sort. She was 9 years old and had the surname Oliveira. This was on b0g. It even had a picture. When she was alive. I cant find it now because b0g was party vanned. :violin:
You give the rest of the US too much credit.

That's true. There's your family to consider. :P
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Semicolon on December 27, 2013, 11:08:26 PM
(http://theappslab.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/the-internet-a-series-of-tubes-300x262.jpg)
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on December 28, 2013, 03:36:38 AM
^I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Semicolon on December 28, 2013, 06:57:26 AM
^I just don't get it.

Link 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Internet_and_network_neutrality) Link 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes)

Senator Ted Stevens made a speech a few years ago about the internet. It has become famous for its misconceptions about the internet and its incoherence. Listen to the speech, if you want the full effect. ;) At the time, Ted Stevens was the senator in charge of internet regulation.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: sg1008 on May 07, 2014, 11:06:13 PM
^I just don't get it.

Link 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Internet_and_network_neutrality) Link 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes)

Senator Ted Stevens made a speech a few years ago about the internet. It has become famous for its misconceptions about the internet and its incoherence. Listen to the speech, if you want the full effect. ;) At the time, Ted Stevens was the senator in charge of internet regulation.

I was thinking maybe he said that back in the early 90's or something....he said that in 2006! Wow....
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Semicolon on May 14, 2014, 07:01:04 AM
^I just don't get it.

Link 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Internet_and_network_neutrality) Link 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes)

Senator Ted Stevens made a speech a few years ago about the internet. It has become famous for its misconceptions about the internet and its incoherence. Listen to the speech, if you want the full effect. ;) At the time, Ted Stevens was the senator in charge of internet regulation.

I was thinking maybe he said that back in the early 90's or something....he said that in 2006! Wow....

Welcome to America. :tard:
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 14, 2014, 08:53:37 AM
(http://images.wikia.com/twilightsaga/images/archive/1/18/20121021013358!Tumblr_m861oj6rGh1rruqrw.gif)

Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on May 14, 2014, 11:09:25 PM
^I just don't get it.

Link 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Internet_and_network_neutrality) Link 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes)

Senator Ted Stevens made a speech a few years ago about the internet. It has become famous for its misconceptions about the internet and its incoherence. Listen to the speech, if you want the full effect. ;) At the time, Ted Stevens was the senator in charge of internet regulation.

I was thinking maybe he said that back in the early 90's or something....he said that in 2006! Wow....

Welcome to America. :tard:

Is he a fatty fat senator?
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Semicolon on May 15, 2014, 06:20:50 AM
^I just don't get it.

Link 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens#Internet_and_network_neutrality) Link 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes)

Senator Ted Stevens made a speech a few years ago about the internet. It has become famous for its misconceptions about the internet and its incoherence. Listen to the speech, if you want the full effect. ;) At the time, Ted Stevens was the senator in charge of internet regulation.

I was thinking maybe he said that back in the early 90's or something....he said that in 2006! Wow....

Welcome to America. :tard:

Is he a fatty fat senator?

No, but he was from Alaska.
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: odeon on May 15, 2014, 06:59:55 AM
What is it with your politicians and Alaska?
Title: Re: Computers and Smartphones Illegal in Florida
Post by: Semicolon on May 15, 2014, 07:10:18 AM
What is it with your politicians and Alaska?

:dunno: Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_political_corruption_probe)

Alaskans can carry guns without a permit, too. :zoinks: It's madness. :GA: :orly: