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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Pyraxis on April 05, 2006, 08:46:49 AM
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Has anyone else noticed that one college freshman has singlehandedly shaped the social structure of an entire community.
With all the intelligent and resourceful people he's pissed off, you'd think he might alienate one too many and get hit by retribution. But no. A few people kick, scream, and yell, he hits the delete button, and his cycle continues. Cliques can take their friends and leave. But there will be an endless supply of innocents who see exactly what the boy king intends them to see. Inertia is a fucking powerful force. And eventually, people will forget what happened the last time, so that when it happens again, they make all the same mistakes the last group did.
And in the mean time, the next Will Freund will come, and do their thing, and go, and no one will ever know or care that in a different kind of social structure, it might have been stopped. The few who do care will comfort themselves by saying that realistically, there was nothing anyone could have done.
So much for intelligence and resourcefulness.
Why is this so? Because what he's doing works. He controls the communication lines, in an environment like the internet where the spreading of information is his greatest enemy. Because a small group of aspies can't manage the organization it would take to mount an effective resistance. Because clique-based splinter communities - and I mean this one too - rarely grow into something large enough to be a threat; once the little group of friends have a place to talk freely to each other, they don't care about the things they were once fighting for. Because his very drive for publicity is what gets him both TV appearances and the naive members he needs to perpetuate his cycle.
And after they're defeated, suddenly people start thinking about moral high roads. Tell me how many of you have not thought to yourself about some variation of, "Anyone who lives like that must be so miserable at heart that they're already in their own paranoic hell." Uh huh. Wake up. His fantasies defend his mind against misery, you self-pitying morons, that's one of the perks of his particular breed of delusion.
Don't mistake this as a cry for sympathy. This is a scream of rage at the state of the universe.
(cross-posted in the neighbours' front yard too)
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Good rant, and I can't see anything in there which I disagree with. Question is: what do we do about it?
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Can Alex see/read this forum?
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I don't know, without checking the permissions. He can join as a member easily enough, so any specific ideas people have are probably best expressed in PMs. As for the rest, he already knows we're plotting his downfall, so meh. He can read it and know that he is indeed The Smirking King Of The Butt-Fuckers. Which if he joins and is identified, can be his custom title...
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similar reply to the one i posted on neurolands - fucking top banana, pyraxis.
brilliantly put.
have some karma. 8)
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Can Alex see/read this forum?
should it matter?
do you care about what you have (which is little) or do you care about the truth?
if you are living in fear of that little man, then i feel for you.
i hope i am wrong about what you meant.
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Can Alex see/read this forum?
should it matter?
do you care about what you have (which is little) or do you care about the truth?
if you are living in fear of that little man, then i feel for you.
i hope i am wrong about what you meant.
He's torn between his loyalty to the AS community and his love for alex. Give the guy a break, this is tearing his heart apart.
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As Dunc said I was just making sure how much we should talk about here as opposed to via PM
Sorry if that went over your head
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Woosh. Most things go over his head, no need to be sorry about it.
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Woosh. Most things go over his head, no need to be sorry about it.
true.
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do you care about what you have (which is little) or do you care about the truth?
if you are living in fear of that little man, then i feel for you.
i hope i am wrong about what you meant.
There are a heck of a lot more reasons for hiding the truth than because one is in fear of him.
McJ - hopefully this thread was at least part of the broader picture you were looking for.
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but i am still having difficulty with the concept of hiding the truth.
and i don't think that anyones really afraid of the big bad wolf.
i personally fear, you, vivi, and pms elle, more than i fear him.
edit to include purposeful insanity on that list.
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Well i wont be telling you any of my bdark secrets in a hurry mcjagger if you feel the need to share everything with everyone. My cunning wont allow it to happen.
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Nobody can control every little thing all the time for events will over take them in the end.
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Has anyone else noticed that one college freshman has singlehandedly shaped the social structure of an entire community.
i disagree. and we should all probably look at the Brittish males as a fine example. mainly they held onto their guns, and the bannings didn't prevent them from being who they are. alex hasn't done shit, unless you count being in the right place at the right time, doing something.
Most of what he currently has is based upon one unfortunate incidence.
Furthermore he didn't utilize it to its full potential. he could have shaped an entire community, if he had chosen advocasy over $$$.
success is fleeting and he's pissing his away.
With all the intelligent and resourceful people he's pissed off, you'd think he might alienate one too many and get hit by retribution. But no. A few people kick, scream, and yell, he hits the delete button, and his cycle continues. Cliques can take their friends and leave. But there will be an endless supply of innocents who see exactly what the boy king intends them to see. Inertia is a fucking powerful force. And eventually, people will forget what happened the last time, so that when it happens again, they make all the same mistakes the last group did.
And in the mean time, the next Will Freund will come, and do their thing, and go, and no one will ever know or care that in a different kind of social structure, it might have been stopped. The few who do care will comfort themselves by saying that realistically, there was nothing anyone could have done.
So much for intelligence and resourcefulness.
Now i see what you are working towards. you are challenging us. You offer us a compliment and a sad situation to motivate us. then you dismiss our abilities as you percieve that we have as well...
do you believe that freund could have been prevented? and why should anybody care about what freund did? it happened, its part of the natural order, it was predesigned, by intertia.
moving along.
Why is this so? Because what he's doing works. He controls the communication lines, in an environment like the internet where the spreading of information is his greatest enemy. Because a small group of aspies can't manage the organization it would take to mount an effective resistance. Because clique-based splinter communities - and I mean this one too - rarely grow into something large enough to be a threat; once the little group of friends have a place to talk freely to each other, they don't care about the things they were once fighting for. Because his very drive for publicity is what gets him both TV appearances and the naive members he needs to perpetuate his cycle.
I completely agree. comfort is neck and neck with in-fighting as our #1 enemy. Alex is just one man, he hasn't shaped anybody. he has shaped opinions people have about him, but that is all. We shape our own course of action when we get comfortable and forget what is just and true. We shape the community with our in-fighting and finger pointing. needless to say, the fact that we are so judgemental of each other is another cause for concern.
by the simple fact that we cannot unite; we shape the community with our anti-productive behaviors.
a competing website does not have to grow large enough to be a threat. what is the threat? is it that the community posts here and there and everywhere else and that cuts into his click averages.
see i take it that you mean that because he deletes well thought out posts, but never a members account (whether they have been banned or they want to leave because they don't feel safe), that indicates that he has numbers and power. any threat to that would be viable? but realize its just smoke and mirrors. numbers equate to $$$, either real or falsified.
IMHO, i would think that if he had an agenda (besides getting laid and making $$$), something like AS betterment and equality, then a group decided to come along and hinder that agenda, then there would be a threat. he, along with any other person, has the ability to chase money. it will always be there and it will always be offered. but the dignity of the people with AS challenges will not be.
No group can ever be a threat to superficial endeavers.
And after they're defeated, suddenly people start thinking about moral high roads. Tell me how many of you have not thought to yourself about some variation of, "Anyone who lives like that must be so miserable at heart that they're already in their own paranoic hell." Uh huh. Wake up. His fantasies defend his mind against misery, you self-pitying morons, that's one of the perks of his particular breed.
one thing that you need to realize is that nobody has been defeated. the other thing is that patience is a virtue for a reason. Do you expect that a snap of the fingers and the people will wake up and smell his brand of java. no. this is about a democracy, it always has been. in a democracy nothing happens in an instant. its a struggle towards a betterway.
why is that?
because their are too many roadblocks and differing opinions to set a chain of events into motion, to fall into place, like a carefully placed row of dominoes. if what the community really wants is change, then change will happen.
but in the meantime, those of us who do want change must;
put together a consensus of what that change should entail, then remain consistent with our voices about what has been agreed upon, until the the community begins to see what else is being offered, and they fall, one by one. (dominoes)
those of us who have passion and demonstrate leadership abilities are the ones who are shaping the community. with inaction.
Don't mistake this as a cry for sympathy. This is a scream of rage at the state of the universe.
i know exactly what you mean. my voice is hoarse from screaming. people have free will, and comfort is our enemy. the state of the universe is such that people just aren't willing to do whatever is necessary to improve their situation. because what they have is tolerable, and the alternative is too munch work.
in essence people are lazy and/or afraid of failure. i say they have failed for not trying.
so what am i going to do about it?
i am going to do my best to remain consistent and keep screaming to anybody who will listen.
my question is;
what are you going to do about it? and that is a general question, not just aimed at pyraxis.
-mcjagger (as himself)
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i am going to repost this again because i am curious.
and i don't want the question to die at the bottom of page 1.
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from: Pyraxis on April 05, 2006, 07:46:49 am
Has anyone else noticed that one college freshman has singlehandedly shaped the social structure of an entire community.
i disagree. and we should all probably look at the Brittish males as a fine example. mainly they held onto their guns, and the bannings didn't prevent them from being who they are. alex hasn't done shit, unless you count being in the right place at the right time as doing something.
Most of what he currently has is based upon one unfortunate incidence.
Furthermore he didn't utilize it to its full potential. he could have shaped an entire community, if he had chosen advocasy over $$$.
success is fleeting and he's pissing his away.
With all the intelligent and resourceful people he's pissed off, you'd think he might alienate one too many and get hit by retribution. But no. A few people kick, scream, and yell, he hits the delete button, and his cycle continues. Cliques can take their friends and leave. But there will be an endless supply of innocents who see exactly what the boy king intends them to see. Inertia is a fucking powerful force. And eventually, people will forget what happened the last time, so that when it happens again, they make all the same mistakes the last group did.
And in the mean time, the next Will Freund will come, and do their thing, and go, and no one will ever know or care that in a different kind of social structure, it might have been stopped. The few who do care will comfort themselves by saying that realistically, there was nothing anyone could have done.
So much for intelligence and resourcefulness.
Now i see what you are working towards. you are challenging us. You offer us a compliment and a sad situation to motivate us. then you dismiss our abilities as you percieve that we have as well...
do you believe that freund could have been prevented? and why should anybody care about what freund did? it happened, its part of the natural order, it was predesigned, by intertia.
moving along.
Why is this so? Because what he's doing works. He controls the communication lines, in an environment like the internet where the spreading of information is his greatest enemy. Because a small group of aspies can't manage the organization it would take to mount an effective resistance. Because clique-based splinter communities - and I mean this one too - rarely grow into something large enough to be a threat; once the little group of friends have a place to talk freely to each other, they don't care about the things they were once fighting for. Because his very drive for publicity is what gets him both TV appearances and the naive members he needs to perpetuate his cycle.
I completely agree. comfort is neck and neck with in-fighting as our #1 enemy. Alex is just one man, he hasn't shaped anybody. he has shaped opinions people have about him, but that is all. We shape our own course of action when we get comfortable and forget what is just and true. We shape the community with our in-fighting and finger pointing. needless to say, the fact that we are so judgemental of each other is another cause for concern.
by the simple fact that we cannot unite; we shape the community with our anti-productive behaviors.
a competing website does not have to grow large enough to be a threat. what is the threat? is it that the community posts here and there and everywhere else and that cuts into his click averages.
see i take it that you mean that because he deletes well thought out posts, but never a members account (whether they have been banned or they want to leave because they don't feel safe), that indicates that he has numbers and power. any threat to that would be viable? but realize its just smoke and mirrors. numbers equate to $$$, either real or falsified.
IMHO, i would think that if he had an agenda (besides getting laid and making $$$), something like AS betterment and equality, then a group decided to come along and hinder that agenda, then there would be a threat. he, along with any other person, has the ability to chase money. it will always be there and it will always be offered. but the dignity of the people with AS challenges will not be.
No group can ever be a threat to superficial endeavers.
And after they're defeated, suddenly people start thinking about moral high roads. Tell me how many of you have not thought to yourself about some variation of, "Anyone who lives like that must be so miserable at heart that they're already in their own paranoic hell." Uh huh. Wake up. His fantasies defend his mind against misery, you self-pitying morons, that's one of the perks of his particular breed.
one thing that you need to realize is that nobody has been defeated. the other thing is that patience is a virtue for a reason. Do you expect that a snap of the fingers and the people will wake up and smell his brand of java. no. this is about a democracy, it always has been. in a democracy nothing happens in an instant. its a struggle towards a betterway.
why is that?
because their are too many roadblocks and differing opinions to set a chain of events into motion, to fall into place, like a carefully placed row of dominoes. if what the community really wants is change, then change will happen.
but in the meantime, those of us who do want change must;
put together a consensus of what that change should entail, then remain consistent with our voices about what has been agreed upon, until the the community begins to see what else is being offered, and they fall, one by one. (dominoes)
those of us who have passion and demonstrate leadership abilities are the ones who are shaping the community. with inaction.
Don't mistake this as a cry for sympathy. This is a scream of rage at the state of the universe.
i know exactly what you mean. my voice is hoarse from screaming. people have free will, and comfort is our enemy. the state of the universe is such that people just aren't willing to do whatever is necessary to improve their situation. because what they have is tolerable, and the alternative is too munch work.
in essence people are lazy and/or afraid of failure. i say they have failed for not trying.
so what am i going to do about it?
i am going to do my best to remain consistent and keep screaming to anybody who will listen.
my question is;
what are you going to do about it? and that is a general question, not just aimed at pyraxis.
-mcjagger (as himself)
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i know exactly what you mean. my voice is hoarse from screaming. people have free will, and comfort is our enemy. the state of the universe is such that people just aren't willing to do whatever is necessary to improve their situation. because what they have is tolerable, and the alternative is too munch work.
in essence people are lazy and/or afraid of failure. i say they have failed for not trying.
so what am i going to do about it?
i am going to do my best to remain consistent and keep screaming to anybody who will listen.
-mcjagger (as himself)
ditto. thats what I'm here for, and is the motive behind whats coming next... >:( ;)
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i agree with action.
whats coming next is a domino. :angel:
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Nobody can control every little thing all the time for events will over take them in the end.
quoted for truth
bump
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Oh and what events are you thinking of?
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Oh and what events are you thinking of?
the kind that make people think of conspiracies.
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interesting.
are you wearing your sheep's clothing?
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interesting.
are you wearing your sheep's clothing?
no, but i will be when i go there.
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and will it be too late?
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never too late given the stakes
and i wont forget the googly eyes, either.
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if you want them, then just act kindly. and never, i repeat never, sell your soul to lucifer.
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if you want them, then just act kindly. and never, i repeat never, sell your soul to lucifer.
don't worry. she couldn't afford me.
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but she has a twat (according to her) and a beautuiful singing voice (according to you).
there isn't much more that you could possibly want, is there.
so it seems fairly cheap to me.
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but she has a twat (according to her) and a beautuiful singing voice (according to you).
there isn't much more that you could possibly want, is there.
so it seems fairly cheap to me.
that aint all there is to life, pops. there is strength and power and the ability to change things. some people change things by waving their twat in somebody's face, and some people change things by acquiring power.
i want power.
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Count me in.
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Count me in.
we'll let you know the details soon.
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then why do you sabatoge your own success.
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then why do you sabatoge your own success.
get a life, micky-j
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then why do you sabatoge your own success.
get a life, micky-j
then you deny it?
you can reasonably argue that you have not seen a pattern to this effect throughout your lifetime?
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then why do you sabatoge your own success.
get a life, micky-j
then you deny it?
you can reasonably argue that you have not seen a pattern to this effect throughout your lifetime?
the only thing i see is you can't move your nose out of your ass long enough to move on.
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then why do you sabatoge your own success.
get a life, micky-j
then you deny it?
you can reasonably argue that you have not seen a pattern to this effect throughout your lifetime?
the only thing i see is you can't move your nose out of your ass long enough to move on.
except the original question was for you. i will answer your accusation once you give me me an honest answer.
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sorry bub. i've got better things to piss on and so do you.
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oh i recall a hippocrite.
would that be you?
hmmm, lucifer gave you the same bub routine and you got all bent outta shape.
hmmm.
attention seeking whore, who has just reade up on a topic now claims to be an expert. but your plan failed. and nobody is letting you off the hook.
just one rule here:
you are accountable for your words.
you have been exposed as, a liar, a hippocrite and a phony.
what say ye?
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oh i recall a hippocrite.
would that be you?
hmmm, lucifer gave you the same bub routine and you got all bent outta shape.
hmmm.
attention seeking whore, who has just reade up on a topic now claims to be an expert. but your plan failed. and nobody is letting you off the hook.
just one rule here:
you are accountable for your words.
you have been exposed as, a liar, a hippocrite and a phony.
what say ye?
i say i am not into exhibitionism, and i am not into indirect threats, innuendos, or apes up in trees barking at me. i am into fun just now.
it is no fun to joust with someone who deteriorates into name calling as soon as his feelings are hurt.
try something else.
this one's a boner.
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oh i recall a hippocrite.
would that be you?
hmmm, lucifer gave you the same bub routine and you got all bent outta shape.
hmmm.
attention seeking whore, who has just reade up on a topic now claims to be an expert. but your plan failed. and nobody is letting you off the hook.
just one rule here:
you are accountable for your words.
you have been exposed as, a liar, a hippocrite and a phony.
what say ye?
i say i am not into exhibitionism, and i am not into indirect threats, innuendos, or apes up in trees barking at me. i am into fun just now.
it is no fun to joust with someone who deteriorates into name calling as soon as his feelings are hurt.
try something else.
this one's a boner.
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mcj, speechless? here and on pm? it can't be.
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Count me in.
what do you think so far?
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Nobody can control every little thing all the time for events will over take them in the end.
quoted for truth
bump
The simplest saying have truth in them don't they.
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Oh and what events are you thinking of?
the kind that make people think of conspiracies.
So what cospiracy may this be in the end?
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Oh and what events are you thinking of?
the kind that make people think of conspiracies.
So what cospiracy may this be in the end?
if it were a conspiracy it would be a conspiracy
but it is not.
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Oh and what events are you thinking of?
the kind that make people think of conspiracies.
So what cospiracy may this be in the end?
if it were a conspiracy it would be a conspiracy
but it is not.
Thats good there is no conspircy then.
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Count me in.
what do you think so far?
I think that I have one subject narrowed down as possibly you, but I still want to know what exactly you intend to do.
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Count me in.
what do you think so far?
I think that I have one subject narrowed down as possibly you, but I still want to know what exactly you intend to do.
some construction work.
i am far better at construction than i am at demolition.
think tom sawyer.
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i am far better at construction than i am at demolition.
Not if you ask mcjagger. :P
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i am far better at construction than i am at demolition.
Not if you ask mcjagger. :P
locally, they are tearing down one bridge because they need to build a bigger one for the new wave of container ships.
sometimes, it is necessary to tear down a structure to make way for the construction of a newer, more usable one. its practical.
yes, i have fond memories of the current, outdated bridge, but i will gain new memories from the new one, they are constructing alonside the old one. ;)
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i am far better at construction than i am at demolition.
Not if you ask mcjagger. :P
why would i ask him? he's not a builder - he's a picker.
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hint: intermittent reinforcement
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I'm at the upper echelon of Intensity's hierarchy. W00t!
Mwahahaha! I'm all-powerful, biotch.