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Title: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 05, 2011, 08:15:59 PM
on the other forum where i post
some old troll has returned, and he has created a clique. hes gotten his own lapdog cocksucker follower, and together they are passing out "signature membership stickers" to those they aggree with, mostly forum favorites

so... 1st thought: childish, no?

well, the forum favorites, the "oldies", the grown up responsible people... are falling for it like whores
not only that
the only one (other than me) to "stand up against them" is a 15 year old girl, whom they are gang-bullying, while hi-fiving each others. not only that, but she is pwning the fuck out of them - AND getting moderator warnings and ban warnings for mouthing off.
since then no more than 2 other people are protesting this behaviour, while being repeatedly warned by the same whore of a moderator.

im just speechless...

i _did not know_ that people could be this... weak... and cowardly...
i just... i thought i was a cynical man, who knew that crowds are weak, but i am really surprised at the level of cowardice found in crowds today...
im talking people in their 30s...

i PM'ed them too, telling them to grow the fuck up, and what do they do?
they get all polite with me - in PM - "lets be civil. its just for fun."
i tell them to suck dick, and theyre STILL civil - in PM - "aw dont say that lets be friends"
back in public "LOL UR A LOSER! UR ON WELFARE ARENT U! U IDIOT!"

GROWN PEOPLE...

im not a tough guy. im really not
but irl, i would kick their asses through the week and back again. and thats coming from a geeky aspie.

i am SO dissapointed in people...

i just had to vent...

/rant :(
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Trigger 11 on August 05, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
Sounds famliar to what I went through on Boston dot com last month. Everyone ganged up on the Aspie when one person decided I must be lying. Next thing I know I am persona non grata. These were mostly people in their 40s teasing me and trying to run me off the blog. It got to the point of being so immature and the pack mentality was just bullshit. It is a big clique on there.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Trigger 11 on August 05, 2011, 09:36:20 PM
I am planning on going to their next social gathering to prove my point. Given my record of social interaction it is more likely to be an epic fail, but I am going to record it.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 05, 2011, 09:42:06 PM
yes, the sad truth is, the group often ends up winning
the moderator is on their side,
im one warning away from a ban allready

its just so dissapointing. i HOPED people were mentally stronger than this...
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: bodie on August 06, 2011, 02:11:09 AM
Don't delete your account - but just quit posting there for a while!
Before you get banned.

You can still go back in the future then,  when the troll thing
has gone back under their bridge,  as it inevitably will.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Frolic_Fun on August 06, 2011, 05:41:37 AM
It's only a fucking internet forum. If you don't like it then leave and find a more suitable place.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 06, 2011, 10:25:47 AM
schleed, im fully aware of that. its just i am dissapointed in people in general. this whole time i _really_ thought grown men were above bullying KIDS ffs... in a group, to feel tough about themselves, and from there it just tops itself off again and again, moderators hi-fiving them etc.
like i said, i thought myself a cynical guy who knew peoples lowest of the low, but i was surprised...
ive hung w those people, and various incarnations of those forums for 10 years, and this is the first time i see such behaviour unfolding in such a glaringly cowardly manner...

bod, im not the type to rage quit, delete accounts or anything. i have never done that. but you are of course absolutely right about ignoring them. i should of course have ignored them earlyer, but... not trying to sound super-noble here, but i _cannot stand_ open bullying like that... of course, im not gonna get any more involved w them, cus that'd lead to the incoming banhammer on my part for sure.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Squidusa on August 06, 2011, 10:46:13 AM
Could you link us to the forum / threads in question?

I like to see things with my own eyes no offence.  :P
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: bodie on August 06, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
10 years is a long time.  Usually people show their true colours much earlier.  I think it is reasonable
to assume a certain percentage of them are just being sheep and will come to their senses at some
point. :thumbdn:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: midlifeaspie on August 06, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
That kind of shit happened every day at WP.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 06, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
squid, i woulda posted it on the first page, im not really interested in even providing them any further pageviews... i just wanted to vent my frustration

bod, oh they did, but 10 years ago they were 17-18, so... a whole forum of angsty teens, such was much more to be expected, besides the forums back then had thousands of members. today theres only a couple of tens of active posters,
thing is, an ooold troll came back, and so, so, successfully managed to rile things up again.
of course i "danced to their tune" by letting myself be baited, but i dont care when that means trying to defend someone whos being completely ganged up on...
just annoying.

at least it seems to have calmed now, i urged her to ignore them completely as well, since they were mostly having fun at her reaction (again, SO brave of them! :D)
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: The_Chosen_One on August 06, 2011, 06:04:59 PM
Post a link to the site. Maybe Sir_Les could have some fun. And Rage as well. Unless they do a Plank and IP ban, Rage and Sir_Les could keep sockpuppets going for as long as those 'tards want to play their game. But then again, it might just be a wasted effort, as these assholes seem too immature to know any better.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 07, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
Post a link to the site. Maybe Sir_Les could have some fun. And Rage as well. Unless they do a Plank and IP ban, Rage and Sir_Les could keep sockpuppets going for as long as those 'tards want to play their game. But then again, it might just be a wasted effort, as these assholes seem too immature to know any better.

i would, but no
as much as i squint at that whole forum, its a strict part of my aspie-routine for a decade. if they got ANY wind of my bringing people over purely to troll, there would be no mercy towards me, im allready hanging by a thread in there, due to my aspie-tendency to recieve multiple warnings :D

i have decided to ignore it (WELL DONE ZEGH!!!), i talked that girl into doing the same thing, and now i notice they are desperately trying to bully someone else, again, a too-easy target... but im staying away from that whole drama for now.
one of them actually pm'ed that first girl, to ask HER a favor, to not be so rude or something.
the cowardice knows NO limits :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 08, 2011, 11:18:41 AM
I went and had a look at that thread myself. It looks like the main point of their little AD club is just to wind people up. I think the best thing would be for you and Westyane to let them play their silly game, and then mock them for their failure to produce anything worthwhile, despite their self-important BS about changing the world.

And for some reason, Brads AD logo reminds me of the logo for Britains got talent.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 08, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
I went and had a look at that thread myself. It looks like the main point of their little AD club is just to wind people up. I think the best thing would be for you and Westyane to let them play their silly game, and then mock them for their failure to produce anything worthwhile, despite their self-important BS about changing the world.

And for some reason, Brads AD logo reminds me of the logo for Britains got talent.

we are ignoring them well now.
thing iiis
they didnt start this "out of the blue"

caligula is an eager neo nazi, and brad is quite the fascist himself, which makes it quite easy for an autist (an untermänsch) to get a bit annoyed by them.
caligula created his AD, to actually "convert" people, he is a complete narcissist.
some people joined him to troll HIM
which is why in my first replies, i am simply just trying to get through to him... i know, i shouldnt have bothered.
from there on, it turns into bully-camp

the thread was finally locked by the owner of the page, but the bullying continues in chat etc, forcing many members to simply stay out of there.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 08, 2011, 12:29:34 PM
I only read that one thread, and had no idea Caligula was a real nazi. If its any consolation, people may play along with his AD shit for lulz, but I doubt if many people would ever become nazi.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 08, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
I only read that one thread, and had no idea Caligula was a real nazi. If its any consolation, people may play along with his AD shit for lulz, but I doubt if many people would ever become nazi.

no, i get that for sure
before that caligula has been trying this for ages, and in chat sessions i tried to get through to him, that... this isnt all that clever :D
in HIS head, he is "gathering an army", hes completely nuts... what flipped me "over the edge" was the transition from "hey we're doing this for lulz" to "we're just trolling lol" (what? but obvious trolls are banned! so! start banning :D ) to "lets bully people, as a gang!"
that one girl wasnt their only victim, but anybody easy, any weak victim type, including a comic book nerd, and a tiny, overweight chilean dude.
its like a bunch of 30-yearolds randomly walking up to a chubby little comic book nerd, and start to push him around for no reason :D
its not "were just joking lol" anymore...
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Squidusa on August 08, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
I'm looking at this Caligula guy , he's an arsehole , pure and simple.
His attempt to smear shit over someone for their schizophrenia is wrong , HOW he is not banned I have no idea.

Do me a favour Zegh , get a hold of his email , then the fun can begin  :zoinks:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 08, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
I'm looking at this Caligula guy , he's an arsehole , pure and simple.
His attempt to smear shit over someone for their schizophrenia is wrong , HOW he is not banned I have no idea.

Do me a favour Zegh , get a hold of his email , then the fun can begin  :zoinks:

he has been banned before. mods list up reasons, for all to see:
"Caligula - flaming/harassing, trolling, and generally just for being a complete dick."
so... its a time-matter i suspect :D

the admins gave people a new years wish, and consensus was amnesty to everyone banned. so... thats how he came back :D
"tadaaa!"
"oh crap... "
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Squidusa on August 08, 2011, 03:21:34 PM
I'm looking at this Caligula guy , he's an arsehole , pure and simple.
His attempt to smear shit over someone for their schizophrenia is wrong , HOW he is not banned I have no idea.

Do me a favour Zegh , get a hold of his email , then the fun can begin  :zoinks:

he has been banned before. mods list up reasons, for all to see:
"Caligula - flaming/harassing, trolling, and generally just for being a complete dick."
so... its a time-matter i suspect :D

the admins gave people a new years wish, and consensus was amnesty to everyone banned. so... thats how he came back :D
"tadaaa!"
"oh crap... "

 :facepalm2:

Why didn't the admins say "No." to that wish?

Amnesty to banned members is usually the BIGGEST cock up you can make , people get banned for a good reason usually , (Not including WP or AFF).
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on August 09, 2011, 12:29:35 PM
I'm looking at this Caligula guy , he's an arsehole , pure and simple.
His attempt to smear shit over someone for their schizophrenia is wrong , HOW he is not banned I have no idea.

Do me a favour Zegh , get a hold of his email , then the fun can begin  :zoinks:

he has been banned before. mods list up reasons, for all to see:
"Caligula - flaming/harassing, trolling, and generally just for being a complete dick."
so... its a time-matter i suspect :D

the admins gave people a new years wish, and consensus was amnesty to everyone banned. so... thats how he came back :D
"tadaaa!"
"oh crap... "

 :facepalm2:

Why didn't the admins say "No." to that wish?

Amnesty to banned members is usually the BIGGEST cock up you can make , people get banned for a good reason usually , (Not including WP or AFF).

i know... i guess they figured a new years wish has to be something that counts for something
an actual gesture
but yes, flood gates opened and an army of trawls rawled back in for a while :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Phallacy on August 10, 2011, 06:47:05 PM
I'm looking at this Caligula guy , he's an arsehole , pure and simple.
His attempt to smear shit over someone for their schizophrenia is wrong , HOW he is not banned I have no idea.

Do me a favour Zegh , get a hold of his email , then the fun can begin  :zoinks:

he has been banned before. mods list up reasons, for all to see:
"Caligula - flaming/harassing, trolling, and generally just for being a complete dick."
so... its a time-matter i suspect :D

the admins gave people a new years wish, and consensus was amnesty to everyone banned. so... thats how he came back :D
"tadaaa!"
"oh crap... "

 :facepalm2:

Why didn't the admins say "No." to that wish?

Amnesty to banned members is usually the BIGGEST cock up you can make , people get banned for a good reason usually , (Not including WP or AFF).

I thought most people stop visiting a forum after they get banned (or tired of making sock puppets). Maybe just me, though. :P
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: eris on August 14, 2011, 03:56:53 PM
remember the BBS gentelments clubs ? And there were similar things from the UYFNYM days. Brad is a pussy. Remind him of the time he got beat up, he'll shut his mouth :)
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 04:34:23 AM
remember the BBS gentelments clubs ? And there were similar things from the UYFNYM days. Brad is a pussy. Remind him of the time he got beat up, he'll shut his mouth :)

i totally missed this. he got beat up?

after i got unbanned from there, he's been off my case, but desperately teaming up w others and managed to get another guy banned (baited him into rudeness, and got him banned), and as soon as that guy was banned, he tried to bait me again. he is relentless! :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: eris on October 29, 2011, 04:37:52 AM
yep, he got beat up

BY ADAM

:D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 04:40:52 AM
yep, he got beat up

BY ADAM

:D

really?
details?

i made _one_ tiny mention of one of these juicy little nuggets you gave me, and he went on a defensive tirade about how that was pure slander etc :D he assumed i got it from VS, and i let him believe so :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: eris on October 29, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
yep, he got beat up

BY ADAM

:D

really?
details?

i made _one_ tiny mention of one of these juicy little nuggets you gave me, and he went on a defensive tirade about how that was pure slander etc :D he assumed i got it from VS, and i let him believe so :D

He went to go live with Adam and Glitter Queen for a while. gee whiz that was probably like 2003 or so ? Aparanly, he had anal porn and cum tissues everywhere, did not flush when he pooped and then ate Glitter Queens easter candy, so Adam beat him up.

It was all over the Bedslam Asylum, hot hot hot topic of the month. Like I said, this was like 8 years ago. Damn Ive been talking to you guys a long time :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 04:51:51 AM
yep, he got beat up

BY ADAM

:D

really?
details?

i made _one_ tiny mention of one of these juicy little nuggets you gave me, and he went on a defensive tirade about how that was pure slander etc :D he assumed i got it from VS, and i let him believe so :D

He went to go live with Adam and Glitter Queen for a while. gee whiz that was probably like 2003 or so ? Aparanly, he had anal porn and cum tissues everywhere, did not flush when he pooped and then ate Glitter Queens easter candy, so Adam beat him up.

It was all over the Bedslam Asylum, hot hot hot topic of the month. Like I said, this was like 8 years ago. Damn Ive been talking to you guys a long time :D

oh yes you mentioned that, but you forgot to mention he got his ass kicked. well, he dismissed that whole thing as "slander" :D
he is still relentless, im being tipped by someone else recieving desperate pm's from him "why dont you like me!" kind of pathetic crap :D adding life-stories and stuff... he is hopeless that guy...
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: eris on October 29, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
Once he kinda did something really odd to me like that

He slammed me publicly for spamming, then kept PM'ing me with " you know im just joking right "
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 04:56:45 AM
Once he kinda did something really odd to me like that

He slammed me publicly for spamming, then kept PM'ing me with " you know im just joking right "

....................... it reminds of cartman...

in an episode, cartman does JUST that. he rips on wendy loudly, for everyone to hear, uses big bad words, and as soon as hes done, he hurries over to her, and whispers "im sorry about that, i dont really want to fight you"

i wonder if brad laughed heartily to that episode.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Squidusa on October 29, 2011, 08:21:16 AM
You got unbanned?
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 08:23:40 AM
You got unbanned?

yes. im not sure why, and im not gonna jinx it by asking, but all logic says some or other mod realized that a permanent ban wasnt warranted (whatsoever)
the procedure is usually
1 day, then
1 week, then
permanent.

w me, i was directly permbanned. and some time later, i was fb'd that some mod had announced for anybody to let me know i was no longer banned
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Squidusa on October 29, 2011, 08:25:57 AM
You got unbanned?

yes. im not sure why, and im not gonna jinx it by asking, but all logic says some or other mod realized that a permanent ban wasnt warranted (whatsoever)
the procedure is usually
1 day, then
1 week, then
permanent.

w me, i was directly permbanned. and some time later, i was fb'd that some mod had announced for anybody to let me know i was no longer banned

Ah well , congrats on getting unbanned.

That forum needs a better mod though , they sound beyond incompetent.  :P
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: ZEGH8578 on October 29, 2011, 08:36:36 AM
You got unbanned?

yes. im not sure why, and im not gonna jinx it by asking, but all logic says some or other mod realized that a permanent ban wasnt warranted (whatsoever)
the procedure is usually
1 day, then
1 week, then
permanent.

w me, i was directly permbanned. and some time later, i was fb'd that some mod had announced for anybody to let me know i was no longer banned

Ah well , congrats on getting unbanned.

That forum needs a better mod though , they sound beyond incompetent.  :P

for the time being, its a dictatorship w "lydia" as the only active mod. the other moderators are too lazy to bother, and trusts her judgement blindly, and defends her blindly, cus theyre buddies, and too lazy to background check quarrels.

a previous moderator was demodded for doing well-meaning, but rash decisions.
she has been active in conspiracies to harass members, trolling, the protection of trolls (which was why i was banned), and is still there. she _actually_ "plays dictator", and very few forumers know this, cus theyre dumbasses, but in chat she and good old "caligula" plotted a lot, playing with psychology and manipulation. she is basically having a blast pretending to be mussolini in her own little republic, knowing perfectly well nobody can do shit about it.
ah well.. at least i can know with myself that im better than that :D
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: eris on October 29, 2011, 03:14:55 PM
its a dictatorship w "lydia"

and that is the answer to why I wont post there anymore 8)
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 20, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
bod, im not the type to rage quit,

:orly:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Bastet on January 20, 2017, 04:05:24 PM
schleed, im fully aware of that. its just i am dissapointed in people in general. this whole time i _really_ thought grown men were above bullying KIDS ffs... in a group, to feel tough about themselves, and from there it just tops itself off again and again, moderators hi-fiving them etc.
like i said, i thought myself a cynical guy who knew peoples lowest of the low, but i was surprised...
ive hung w those people, and various incarnations of those forums for 10 years, and this is the first time i see such behaviour unfolding in such a glaringly cowardly manner...

bod, im not the type to rage quit, delete accounts or anything. i have never done that. but you are of course absolutely right about ignoring them. i should of course have ignored them earlyer, but... not trying to sound super-noble here, but i _cannot stand_ open bullying like that... of course, im not gonna get any more involved w them, cus that'd lead to the incoming banhammer on my part for sure.

Wait the same guy who was bragging about bullying a 17 year old?
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 20, 2017, 04:17:17 PM
Zegh bullied a 17 year old??
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Bastet on January 20, 2017, 04:29:56 PM
Zegh bullied a 17 year old??

From what I remember. It's buried in his bullshit from when he was manic. He was bragging about all his online feuds.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Bastet on January 20, 2017, 04:35:25 PM
Zegh bullied a 17 year old??

From what I remember. It's buried in his bullshit from when he was manic. He was bragging about all his online feuds.

No my mistake. It was an old thread that a guest was viewing where he was bragging about being a dick to a 17 year old because he's not a Progressive like him. How his age didn't matter. Etc etc.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 20, 2017, 08:42:03 PM
Zeg doesn't live here anymore.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 21, 2017, 07:27:53 AM
Zeg doesn't live here anymore.  :zoinks:

  He still has an account.  He might come back at any time.  :M :police:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 22, 2017, 12:48:33 AM
Zeg doesn't live here anymore.  :zoinks:

  He still has an account.  He might come back at any time.  :M :police:

Whenever that happens, I'll fully encourages starting fights with him.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: odeon on January 22, 2017, 03:11:42 AM
Zeg doesn't live here anymore.  :zoinks:

  He still has an account.  He might come back at any time.  :M :police:

Whenever that happens, I'll fully encourages starting fights with him.  :zoinks:

 :agreed:

Right now, though, it's a waste of bandwidth.
Title: Re: omg the embarassment of social dynamics
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 25, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
Zeg doesn't live here anymore.  :zoinks:

  He still has an account.  He might come back at any time.  :M :police:

Whenever that happens, I'll fully encourages starting fights with him.  :zoinks:

I doubt he does but if he does, he will face a shit storm.