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Start here => M.O.-Introductions => Topic started by: FourAceDeal on January 14, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
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Hello.....
So what gives?
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Welcome! What brings you here? The smilies are great fun! :santa:
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Hi :trollskull:
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Hello.....
So what gives?
Whatever does not take.
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Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?
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Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?
Oi! That's the queen of the forum!
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East End of what?
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Welcome, etc.
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Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?
Raunchy old witch.
P.S I made it to the 20th century.
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Should the n00b be beheaded, Your Majesty?
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considering the lack of n00bs, I'll put him in chains so he can't leave.
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:welcome: FourAceDeal.
What is it with the geese in your avatar?
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:welcome: FourAceDeal.
What is it with the geese in your avatar?
It's from an old tv ad featuring Peter Murphy (of Bauhaus fame).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUe6m1g8h9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUe6m1g8h9c)
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Welcome.
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OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:
Do you mind being my new special interest? :orly:
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OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:
Do you mind being my new special interest? :orly:
Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?
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I am the Pussycat of the Aspie Elite. I am a Friendly Bastard boobs2
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considering the lack of n00bs, I'll put him in chains so he can't leave.
Very good, Your Majesty. A wise decision.
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OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:
Do you mind being my new special interest? :orly:
Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?
He's a gopher. Don't expect too much. :zoinks:
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I am the Pussycat of the Aspie Elite. I am a Friendly Bastard boobs2
I'm the Soviet Impostor
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Ohai buttcoffee
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Ohai buttcoffee
They're all Buttcoffee. Or Lorna. Depends who you ask.
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At least they're not Chair, or DTX :-/
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
I have a Chair.
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
I have a Chair.
I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
I have a Chair.
I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.
Can you think how the speech would have gone if he had of started it thus?
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
I have a Chair.
I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.
Can you think how the speech would have gone if he had of started it thus?
It would not even have been that different. "i have a Dream" lingers more in the mind though. So glad he started it with a dream in stead of a chair.
"I have a chair, in front of the bus, next to the major's daughter. And no one bats an eye. I have a chair in class between the son of the miner and the son of the director of a factory. And no one bats an eye..."
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Ohai buttcoffee
They're all Buttcoffee. Or Lorna. Depends who you ask.
>:D >:D :LOL:
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Ohai buttcoffee
They're all Buttcoffee. Or Lorna. Depends who you ask.
>:D >:D :LOL:
And there I was thinking that NOBODY would get that joke. :2thumbsup:
Hi :santa:
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Ohai buttcoffee
They're all Buttcoffee. Or Lorna. Depends who you ask.
>:D >:D :LOL:
Welcome back.
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Were you summoned here?
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Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:
Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.
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Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:
Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)
What happens if someone types your name three times?
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.
Are you trying to discriminate me?
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Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.
Are you trying to discriminate me?
No sir ._.
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So I can be Chair if I want to. :M
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Ohai buttcoffee
They're all Buttcoffee. Or Lorna. Depends who you ask.
>:D >:D :LOL:
Helloooooooooooooooo! What's up? :santa:
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I always arrive late to a noob welcome. Did the noob allready leave? Did it? :(
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Oh, wait, no, the noob's right there! STAY WITH US!!! You'll soon discover that the few ones who have replied in your thread, are the few ones who bother to ever post on this site. At all.
This is it. You've been introduced to everybody.
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Oh, wait, no, the noob's right there! STAY WITH US!!! You'll soon discover that the few ones who have replied in your thread, are the few ones who bother to ever post on this site. At all.
This is it. You've been introduced to everybody.
Even to our nihilist ZEGH. :D
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What the hell, registered october!? October!?? Damn...
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What the hell, registered october!? October!?? Damn...
That is weird indeed. All the time it said that Phoenix was the last member, on the bottom of the page.
Did the registration only come through a few days ago? Did it only become visible after the first post of FourAceDeal? Have there been more registrations, and did those members get lost in the bowels of the SMF database?
This is weird.
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so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0
Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:
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so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0
Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:
Think it may be a glitch in the forum.
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so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0
Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:
Think it may be a glitch in the forum.
Suspecting FourAceDeal has obstructive superpowers is more fun though.
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
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Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:
Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)
What happens if someone types your name three times?
I explode :headexplode: :headexplode: :headexplode:
Hi CBC :viking:
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
I have to plus you for the second time today.
Could be FAD is here for our protection too, of course.
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Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:
Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)
What happens if someone types your name three times?
I explode :headexplode: :headexplode: :headexplode:
Hi CBC :viking:
That would give such a mess. And it would be a pity too.
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I did register in October. Then the forum never sent me a confirmation email. So I waited and waited. And then there was a flood. and the house exploded. and I had to jump off a helicopter onto a train (or was that in a film?).
And to cut a long story short, the kidnappers left the van door unlocked and I escaped over the border to Zambia.
Then I found this place again and asked it to resend the confirmation email, and so now I'm here.
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I did register in October. Then the forum never sent me a confirmation email. So I waited and waited. And then there was a flood. and the house exploded. and I had to jump off a helicopter onto a train (or was that in a film?).
And to cut a long story short, the kidnappers left the van door unlocked and I escaped over the border to Zambia.
Then I found this place again and asked it to resend the confirmation email, and so now I'm here.
I've never had a confirmation mail. But somehow they let me in when I started posting a while later.
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Is it live or is it Memorex?
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:laugh:
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you
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So I can be Chair if I want to. :M
:agreed:
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How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )
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How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )
Hundreds.... better than that.... OVER 9,000!
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We have a noob?
Cool.
I'm always the last to know. I just thought someone was necro bumping something again. :facepalm2:
Welcome. :asthing:
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OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:
Do you mind being my new special interest? :orly:
Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?
You've obviously never seen my back hair art. :zoinks:
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How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )
If I don't qualify for my own chair, I vote to sit on Pyraxis' lap. :orly:
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you
Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me. :zoinks:
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you
Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me. :zoinks:
:mischief: *whispers* You're not the only one *laughs hysterically* :mischief:
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How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )
People would attend remotely.
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Would you like to make yourself a Q&A thread?
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He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you
Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me. :zoinks:
:mischief: *whispers* You're not the only one *laughs hysterically* :mischief:
:-*
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What part of Britain are you from??
What's your opinion of the band The Toy Dolls??
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What part of Britain are you from??
What's your opinion of the band The Toy Dolls??
I'm originally from Yorkshire. I've lived all over the place but settled down in rural Worcestershire, not far from Birmingham. If you look at a map of Britain, try to stick a pin right in the middle Island as far away from the see as you can. That's where I am, give or take.
The Toy Dolls? I remember going mental to them as a kid. They were a bit of a novelty. Are they still around?
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Are you still here FourAceDeal?
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Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
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Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
For fook sake. I keep trying to hide and you give me away. Let's try again..... Count to a hundred without looking......
Sorry guys. Only kidding. Got a really demanding job doing database shit for some guys in America. Takes up all my time.
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Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.
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Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
For fook sake. I keep trying to hide and you give me away. Let's try again..... Count to a hundred without looking......
I'm peeking. :zoinks:
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Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.
Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:
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Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.
Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:
Write that down. :zoinks:
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Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
For fook sake. I keep trying to hide and you give me away. Let's try again..... Count to a hundred without looking......
Sorry guys. Only kidding. Got a really demanding job doing database shit for some guys in America. Takes up all my time.
Database? You have my sympathy. :hug:
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Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.
Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:
Write that down. :zoinks:
I already posted it, you fuzzy twit. Aren't you paying attention? :zoinks: :trollskull:
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I already posted it, you fuzzy twit. Aren't you paying attention? :zoinks: :trollskull:
Nope. :zoinks:
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I already posted it, you fuzzy twit. Aren't you paying attention? :zoinks: :trollskull:
Nope. :zoinks:
Spazz. :M
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I already posted it, you fuzzy twit. Aren't you paying attention? :zoinks: :trollskull:
Nope. :zoinks:
Spazz. :M
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Ohai buttcoffee
Our resident genius!! :autism:
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Huh. I didn't even realise FAD was a n00b. And now he's almost an elder.
I demand the booby prize. I found this thread later than the lot of yous :green:
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I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.
Is it not?
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I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.
Is it not?
Fuck knows , but you've snatched my booby prize now :grrr:
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I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.
Is it not?
Why do you think so? Certain writing habits are reflexive and thus extremely difficult to cease or fake. There's one fundamental habit they do not share, so that makes me think no.
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I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.
Is it not?
Why do you think so? Certain writing habits are reflexive and thus extremely difficult to cease or fake. There's one fundamental habit they do not share, so that makes me think no.
The name.
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I see, the ace.
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It's not GalileoAce. I know that for sure.
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It's not GalileoAce. I know that for sure.
Ah! he musta come back as Grey Area , then. (GA, ya know? ;) )
Woot! This is the Greenest forum on the internet! No n00bs at all, just recycled oldies. We ought to get get an award.
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Uh, not quite. She came back as Ceilidh (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1383), but didn't stay very long.
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And is also known as Kayleigh, when I speak of her.
Sometimes I call her GA just for fun. :zoinks:
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Where is FAD anyway?
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Uh, not quite. She came back as Ceilidh (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1383), but didn't stay very long.
Ummm. i t was supposed to be a joke, Pyraxis. ::)
Not a very good one, evidently, but a joke nonetheless.
Of course I don't think that GA (erm , I mean Grey area) is GA. Just following Cal's lead, and seizing on an obvious clue in the name. (having finally got the reason why he thought that FAD was GA. Q uite a facepalm monment for myself, cos I'd been mightily puzzled up til then. ) .
Besides I find the thought that all of our n00bs are really recycled oldies amusing, even if not quite true.
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:asthing:
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Where is FAD anyway?
Shall I make excuses for him? :zoinks:
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Where is FAD anyway?
Shall I make excuses for him? :zoinks:
Do you keep him in your dungeon? :zoinks:
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Where is FAD anyway?
FourAceDeal 21:29:48 Viewing unread topics since their last visit.
Ooops. we've been caught now :hide:
Calandale started it, FAD!
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Post it and they will come.
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Jack, superboyian and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.
Welcome back.
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Calandale started it, FAD!
You're learning.
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Where is FourAceDeal? He should come back.
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Where is FourAceDeal? He should come back.
Yes, he was getting so close to 500 posts.
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A shame. I liked his posts.
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:bigcry:
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I hope he comes back.
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Maybe he got bored with pwning the resident broflakes?
I hope he comes back as well.
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:bigcry:
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Maybe he got bored with pwning the resident broflakes?
::) ::) ::)
He ignored the arguments where I stumped him.
He was the one getting pwned.
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
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There was a school shooting today, so maybe that will bring him back. :orly:
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Don't those usually KILL people?
The world is so confusing.
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There was a school shooting today, so maybe that will bring him back. :orly:
Not much to be said beyond the obvious.
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He's still not here. :bigcry:
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.
It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
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Oh, and
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/4-laws-that-could-stem-the-rising-threat-of-mass-shootings/
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.
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Oh, and
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/4-laws-that-could-stem-the-rising-threat-of-mass-shootings/
Things could happen on a state level, but don't expect any new national laws under a republican rule.
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It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
This is perhaps the best example of unintended comedy posted on I2 to date.
... and I'm comparing it to shit posted by Randy.
:rofl:
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.
If the public support is there, then why are you electing officials that aren't delivering?
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This is perhaps the best example of unintended comedy posted on I2 to date.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
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This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.
I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.
If the public support is there, then why are you electing officials that aren't delivering?
The question should be why don't they deliver. Gun control is one of the top expectations when electing democrats. Lack of delivery is probably why the US pendulums so consistently between democrat and republican. Party preference is a matter of prioritizing sociological need vs economic need. Both are important and a lot of people don't really view one as more important than the other, and that creates a lot of centrist voters. so when one party fails to meet expectations then the other party gets a chance.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
Honestly, the rest of the world is mostly dumbstruck.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
Probably; though maybe more about money and influence than actual guns. Theories on the sociopathy of political leaders may have some merit.
Honestly, the rest of the world is mostly dumbstruck.
Have the impression the general public here are upset as well.
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Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.
This is one of the saddest descriptions of how democracy can work.
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In the words of the idiot-in-chief: sad.
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The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse.
This is the shit that passes for logic in the mind of odeot. Politics has been described as the art of the possible and what odeot proposes is impossible on so many levels.
First of all, a repeal of the 2nd amendment isn't going to happen, period. Second, because it isn't going to be repealed, sweeping bans of entire categories of firearms are going to face legal challenges that will tie up the courts for decades.
Of course if you tried such sweeping gun bans all that would happen is a surge in sales of targeted weapons followed by a surge in Militia membership. You might even get Militia leaders elected as mayors, sheriffs, governors, etc..
The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die.
People are going to die no matter what. The murder rate in both England and Australia didn't change much after their gun bans, only the murder weapon changed. The fact that the murder stats that odeot posted only showed gun murders and not overall murders says that he probably knows this but would rather stick to his narrative.
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.
It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
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This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.
I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me. :pwned:
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
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The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse.
This is the shit that passes for logic in the mind of odeot. Politics has been described as the art of the possible and what odeot proposes is impossible on so many levels.
First of all, a repeal of the 2nd amendment isn't going to happen, period. Second, because it isn't going to be repealed, sweeping bans of entire categories of firearms are going to face legal challenges that will tie up the courts for decades.
Of course if you tried such sweeping gun bans all that would happen is a surge in sales of targeted weapons followed by a surge in Militia membership. You might even get Militia leaders elected as mayors, sheriffs, governors, etc..
The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die.
People are going to die no matter what. The murder rate in both England and Australia didn't change much after their gun bans, only the murder weapon changed. The fact that the murder stats that odeot posted only showed gun murders and not overall murders says that he probably knows this but would rather stick to his narrative.
You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?
Oh, and
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.
In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.
Next. :yawn:
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.
It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
You might want to follow your own advice. Start by carefully reading what others write instead of the knee-jerk responses. Your replies to me illustrate your difficulties well.
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This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.
I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me. :pwned:
Allow me to quote your earlier post:
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
The reality is that you have a problem, regardless of what you call it, and unless you do something, things will get worse. Calling me "odeot" won't change that, it will just make you look like someone not to be taken seriously. And I'm being charitable.
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I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.
It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
Just calling it as I see it. Sounds like somebody needs a waaaaambulance.
And Odeot :) already shot down your bogus claims about the murder rate after Australia's gun ban.
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You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?
There's a process for that. It's not been used with the 2nd, as it has to correct politically unsustainable flaws.
Now, I happen to think that the 2nd amendment has been badly misinterpreted, but I'm no Constitutional scholar.
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You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?
There's a process for that. It's not been used with the 2nd, as it has to correct politically unsustainable flaws.
Now, I happen to think that the 2nd amendment has been badly misinterpreted, but I'm no Constitutional scholar.
It looks like it's been misinterpreted on purpose, tbh.
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That's how the constitution was designed. It was left vague in order that different people
could have different impressions. Part of why we had the war of secession.
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You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?
Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?
Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??
Oh, and
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.
In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.
Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.
Next. :yawn:
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This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.
I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me. :pwned:
Allow me to quote your earlier post:
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
I was talking to MOSW, not the odeot.
The odeot has been supremely hypocritical when it comes to posting links.
Whenever the odeot's arguments are refuted with links or videos, the odeot refuses to read or watch them.
Then the odeot posts links and videos and expects others to read or watch those links.
The odeot is too much of an odeot to understand reciprocal conduct.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.
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Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?
Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers. They just throw red-herring arguments.
All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.
It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
Just calling it as I see it. Sounds like somebody needs a waaaaambulance.
And Odeot :) already shot down your bogus claims about the murder rate after Australia's gun ban.
No, the odeot didn't. He showed cherry-picked data that showed an incomplete picture.
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Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?
Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??
But, they have been interpreted differently by the courts over time.
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You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?
Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?
Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??
Do you realise that it doesn't necessarily take a modification of the text itself? You seem to believe that your nationality grants you magical powers of interpretation.
https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/
Oh, and
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.
In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.
Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.
Next. :yawn:
And where is your evidence? Next.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.
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This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.
I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me. :pwned:
Allow me to quote your earlier post:
:wanker:
Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
I was talking to MOSW, not the odeot.
The odeot has been supremely hypocritical when it comes to posting links.
Whenever the odeot's arguments are refuted with links or videos, the odeot refuses to read or watch them.
Then the odeot posts links and videos and expects others to read or watch those links.
The odeot is too much of an odeot to understand reciprocal conduct.
I can see why you resort to this sort of behaviour. It's so much easier than to produce actual evidence. Oh well.
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Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Dude, where's your evidence?
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https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/
Salon is a known source of leftist propaganda and this article is typical of the opinion-as-evidence approach that they're known for.
Oh, and
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.
In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.
Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.
Next. :yawn:
And where is your evidence? Next.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/
Scroll to the bottom, the chart shows homicides going up and down but the trend is only slightly down.
It should also be noted that overall violent crime has gone up in Australia in this same time period where overall violent crime in the US has gone down, despite record gun sales. It kinda destroys the gun-control narrative, doesn't it??
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Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Dude, where's your evidence?
For what?
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Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Dude, where's your evidence?
For what?
Your claims, perhaps?
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Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:
* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”
And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.
Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.
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Also regarding your claims that violent crime is rising in Australia (let's see your evidence), here is a good refutation by those commies over at Snopes:
https://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
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Also regarding your claims that violent crime is rising in Australia (let's see your evidence), here is a good refutation by those commies over at Snopes:
https://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
I said it was rising at a time period when crime was going down in the US which is exactly what those charts show. :M
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings
A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.
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https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/
Salon is a known source of leftist propaganda and this article is typical of the opinion-as-evidence approach that they're known for.
Damned pinko founding fathers.
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OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.
The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings
A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.
Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?
Fucking hell, what an embarrassment you are. Anything but your precious guns.
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In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?
:facepalm:
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I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.
School gunfights sound awesome!
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School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings
A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.
Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?
The odeot obviously didn't read the article because the odeot is a hypocrite who isn't interested in facts, only muh Leftist narrative. :tard:
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In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?
:facepalm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is. :nerdy:
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Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:
* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”
And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.
Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.
A likely explanation for this data is that, given the fact that the majority of these immigrants are from Asia, especially China, that they didn't contribute significantly to the violent crime statistics. (funny how crime tends to follow racial lines, hmmmmm...)
Therefore, what the data shows is a stagnant amount of violent crime being committed by the native population and the percentages being driven down by mass immigration of a civilized people. :nerdy:
(Why can't we have mass immigration from China instead of Beaners in the US??)
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I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.
School gunfights sound awesome!
As a first person shooter?
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School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings
A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.
Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?
The odeot obviously didn't read the article because the odeot is a hypocrite who isn't interested in facts, only muh Leftist narrative. :tard:
That is a no then.
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In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?
:facepalm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is. :nerdy:
Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.
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Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:
* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”
And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.
Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.
A likely explanation for this data is that, given the fact that the majority of these immigrants are from Asia, especially China, that they didn't contribute significantly to the violent crime statistics. (funny how crime tends to follow racial lines, hmmmmm...)
Therefore, what the data shows is a stagnant amount of violent crime being committed by the native population and the percentages being driven down by mass immigration of a civilized people. :nerdy:
(Why can't we have mass immigration from China instead of Beaners in the US??)
False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.
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It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again. :zoinks:
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It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again. :zoinks:
You only noticed now?
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I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.
School gunfights sound awesome!
As a first person shooter?
Maybe an olympic sport?
USA!USA!
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Personally think dueling should be made legal again.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
During the latest school shooting the school's armed security guard didn't engage the shooter and I read one account that he hid behind a wall. You'd need teachers armed with weapons and ammo to at least match a typical school shooter. And body armour. And uniforms so the cops know they are not the shooter. Robocop teachers.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
It's the fairness of it that makes it good.
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In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?
:facepalm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is. :nerdy:
Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.
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False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.
:LMAO:
The odeot thinks that calling Chinese people civilized is waaasist!! :rofl:
For odeot's information, there are currently 40+ young Chinese men living in my condo complex.
Am I afraid if I walk out at night and see them loitering around?? No, because I know they're not ghetto trash.
If I had the same number of young "African-American" men in my complex, I'd fucking move tomorrow, along with everyone else in my complex because we all know what would follow. First would be the loud music at 2 am followed by break-ins, drug dealing, violence and squalor.
The Chinese are good neighbors. Niggers?? not so much.
Oh and one more thing. The former resident of my unit was a nigger couple. They trashed this unit so badly that it took 3 pages to document all the damage. I'm guessing it took at least $10K to fix all the damage before I moved in. I can take pictures of repair notes and post them if anyone is interested.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
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In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?
:facepalm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is. :nerdy:
Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.
This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.
In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.
According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.
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False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.
:LMAO:
The odeot thinks that calling Chinese people civilized is waaasist!! :rofl:
For odeot's information, there are currently 40+ young Chinese men living in my condo complex.
Am I afraid if I walk out at night and see them loitering around?? No, because I know they're not ghetto trash.
If I had the same number of young "African-American" men in my complex, I'd fucking move tomorrow, along with everyone else in my complex because we all know what would follow. First would be the loud music at 2 am followed by break-ins, drug dealing, violence and squalor.
The Chinese are good neighbors. Niggers?? not so much.
Oh and one more thing. The former resident of my unit was a nigger couple. They trashed this unit so badly that it took 3 pages to document all the damage. I'm guessing it took at least $10K to fix all the damage before I moved in. I can take pictures of repair notes and post them if anyone is interested.
Bigot. What a sad case you are.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
Anything but your precious guns.
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Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
It's pretty minor. I prefer teacher with a chem lab vs. student with an assault rifle.
Much more interesting.
It's the fairness of it that makes it good.
I don't mind FAIR, per se, but I want something interesting. Not two cowboys dueling it
out with the exact same weapons - you can't learn anything from that. Give me some
cestus vs. hopolmachus action.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
Anything but your precious guns.
This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"
Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.
A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.
The problem is ....................something. Right?
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
Anything but your precious guns.
This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"
Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.
A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.
The problem is ....................something. Right?
Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
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According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.
:LMAO:
And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate. :LMAO:
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Bigot. What a sad case you are.
You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot. :rofl:
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
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According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.
:LMAO:
And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate. :LMAO:
Not sure about you, but I'd not consider a career in teaching if this went through.
I guess you didn't read the rest of the article.
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Bigot. What a sad case you are.
You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot. :rofl:
Bigoted AND deluded.
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Funny, btw. Scrap's posts lately have been mostly LOLs, ROFLs and LMAOs, a fair bit of bigotry, pointing out the important distinction that the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, various misconceptions about the US constitution, and, of course, a fair bit of name-calling directed at me. Yet he seems to think that he is engaged in a "debate".
If he is in any way representative of the pro-gun, bought-by-the-NRA conservative right, I can certainly see why the mass shootings will continue for the foreseeable future.
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?
I dunno. Maybe 10?
4 shot is a local news story in most cases. The events that make the
national headlines are when the body count is higher.
But, I don't know that the definition needs to change. It's just more difficult to take
out larger numbers with a handgun. If you raise that number a little, the total (already
low) number of deaths due to mass shootings drops dramatically,
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Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?
Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.
It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.
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Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
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Forgot to add the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
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Thought you approved of population control. :laugh:
Oh, I do. I don't approve of traffic congestion due to accidents.
The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
I think 'mericans are just homicidal.
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I think 'mericans are just homicidal.
The numbers are small and make it unfitting as a generalization, but yes, probably more so than some other places.
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Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?
Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.
It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.
I own a car.
I am not in denial that cars are as dangerous as fuck and that cars damage the environment.
If I came on here and tried to make a bunch of illogical and factually incorrect justifications for my ownership of a car.... I would expect to be called out on that!
Instead I choose to acknowledge the readily available statistics that show just how dangerous cars are. And how much CO2 they pump into the atmosphere. And admit that I still own a car because I enjoy the time that it saves me and the freedom that it provides to me. And I simply don't like catching public transport or walking in the rain.
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And admit that I still own a car because I enjoy the time that it saves me and the freedom that it provides to me. And I simply don't like catching public transport or walking in the rain.
In the US, owning a car is pretty necessary. Public transport is crap, and rentals aren't a good option if you're
even just making a few trips a year - the cost runs up significantly. I wouldn't blame any individual for owning a
car. But, as with guns, there is a culture which prevents us from facing the overall costs to society of a system
largely based upon the private automobile.
It's not all that different from the same political facts surrounding guns - except that it is more widespread.
Gun culture feels more under siege, and thus defensive, so they reach harder.
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A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?
I dunno. Maybe 10?
4 shot is a local news story in most cases. The events that make the
national headlines are when the body count is higher.
But, I don't know that the definition needs to change. It's just more difficult to take
out larger numbers with a handgun. If you raise that number a little, the total (already
low) number of deaths due to mass shootings drops dramatically,
It's a sad state of affairs in a country when four people shot to death will only make the local news.
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Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?
Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.
It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.
Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.
Or do you have a Tesla gun in mind?
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Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.
But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
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Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.
But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
That's a possibility. What was wrong with his eyesight?
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Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.
But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
That's a possibility. What was wrong with his eyesight?
A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.
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Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.
Other objects with utility are more safely constrained. I'm not postulating an equivalence here - but that the automobile
culture is, if anything, a worse problem. There might be areas where personal vehicles (and guns for that matter) are
the only reasonable solution - but that doesn't mean you need either in cities.
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A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.
I knew an epileptic who had a license.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
Anything but your precious guns.
This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"
Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.
A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.
The problem is ....................something. Right?
Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
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Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
:facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:
They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??
What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??
The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.
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It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again. :zoinks:
You only noticed now?
I don't get much time lately. >:(
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Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.
Other objects with utility are more safely constrained. I'm not postulating an equivalence here - but that the automobile
culture is, if anything, a worse problem. There might be areas where personal vehicles (and guns for that matter) are
the only reasonable solution - but that doesn't mean you need either in cities.
My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?
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A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.
I knew an epileptic who had a license.
Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.
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Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.
For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.
A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
Anything but your precious guns.
This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"
Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.
A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.
The problem is ....................something. Right?
Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
There is a level of desperation in the idea. Anything but their precious guns.
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Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
:facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:
They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??
What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??
The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/face-palm-gif-7.gif)
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My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?
Quite, but it's because of the political unwillingness to provide public transport, because of the car culture.
There are areas where public transport simply couldn't be effective.
Guns are the solution to more guns!
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Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.
I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?
Even if it's vigilante justice....
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Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.
I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?
Even if it's vigilante justice....
:lol1:
So true.
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And he still hasn't come back. :bigcry:
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He's probably afraid of rabies.
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That must be it.
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People love my rabies. >:(
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People love my rabies. >:(
:hug:
But of course.
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Maybe he's not a people then?
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Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
:facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:
They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??
What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??
The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.
No, I'm saying that not every teacher is former military or police you stupid cunt.
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Funny thing is if the NRA lobby cared as much about the safety of schoolchildren as Pappy does about 'negging me maybe they'd do something about gun control. :zoinks:
e: And rather than engage in any kind of debate he sticks to 'negging a 21 year old rather than try to prove his point or fight for it in any way outside of childish insults and a karma system.
What kind of coward is afraid of a 21 year old on an internet forum? :zoinks:
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Some_Bloke, that's the problem with playing chess with pigeons.
(https://pics.me.me/arguing-with-idiots-is-like-playing-chess-with-a-pigeon-20589203.png)
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Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:
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Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:
:lol1: :plus:
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Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:
:lol1: :plus:
:plus: :plus:
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:laugh: +
Little Scrappy seems to have found another board to shit on.
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Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
:facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:
They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?
And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??
What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??
The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.
No, I'm saying that not every teacher is former military or police you stupid cunt.
Not every teacher NEEDS to be one you stupid cunt! Only the ones who would be armed.
There's no problem finding teachers with significant experience with guns in the US.
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Funny thing is if the NRA lobby cared as much about the safety of schoolchildren as Pappy does about 'negging me maybe they'd do something about gun control. :zoinks:
Posting in the mirror. :hahaha:
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:laugh: +
Little Scrappy seems to have found another board to shit on.
and odeot is 100% innocent. :angel:
I wonder if the sky is even blue in the world odeot lives in. :chin:
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Brilliantly argued.
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Brilliantly argued.
Yup. He should win an award or something. :tard:
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Some_Bloke, that's the problem with playing chess with pigeons.
(https://pics.me.me/arguing-with-idiots-is-like-playing-chess-with-a-pigeon-20589203.png)
I don't know too much about playing chess with pigeons but I have played Dungeons and Dragons with a small handful of them. :asthing:
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Brilliantly argued.
Yup. He should win an award or something. :tard:
The Pigeon Award for Outstanding Shit