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"I want to share my testimony of faith. I have been coming to All Nations Church in Fort Mill since August when my three children and I moved from N.Y. this past year. My greatest expectations could not have held all that the Lord has begun in the lives of my children and in my heart since being faithful in this move! In September Pastor Mahesh called out during ministry time that there was someone with a child that was developmentally disabled was diagnosed as autistic. I went up for prayer for my 4 year old son who has been diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome (a form of autism) who also has a seizure disorder and is developmentally delayed. The team had me get my son, and the word spoken over him was that it was going to be a progressive healing. I have indeed watched the Lord begin to manifest His Glorious healing Presence over the past few months! In fact the childrenâ€™s worship leader told me what a change they were seeing in him! Amy P., SC Added 2/1/2005
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Post by: QuirkyCarla on October 07, 2006, 02:58:39 PM: :laugh:
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Post by: Callaway on October 07, 2006, 03:04:58 PM: How much money do they want to try to extract from vulnerable parents to pay for this "miracle"?

::)
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Post by: Tom/Mutate on October 07, 2006, 03:09:44 PM: My parents love that guy. They went to see him and he had them falling over and speaking in tongues. Apparently gold light shines from head, although it only happens when hes in a room with all believers.
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Post by: thepeaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:11:28 PM: Religiously patronising a person because of his disability background contradicts Christian values and principles, does it not?

I'm getting rather bored with the discrimination among autistics. If you can speak, and show less developmental delays as you get older, you're somehow mildly autistic. If you're a "low-functioner", you're inferior to those labeled with the so-called AS label from the so-called autistic spectrum.

And so on and so on.
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Post by: Callaway on October 07, 2006, 03:23:06 PM: Quote from: tomrenegade on October 07, 2006, 03:09:44 PM
My parents love that guy. They went to see him and he had them falling over and speaking in tongues. Apparently gold light shines from head, although it only happens when hes in a room with all believers.

I don't mean to insult him if your parents love him, but I have become cynical of many of these faith healing religious leaders. From my point of view, the gold light shining from his head and his followers falling over and speaking in tongues could be mass hysteria.

I read a follow-up study that had someone go around and talk to people who were supposedly faith healed some time later and most of them were not really healed of anything, except maybe pain, but only from their pain for a short time. I think many of these faith healing relgious leaders prey on the weak and vulnerable and take money and even more importantly time away from the people they supposedly faith heal. If someone has operable cancer but believes that they have been healed by their faith, it would show a lack of faith to be followed up by their regular doctor, so often they are not followed up until it is too late for conventional medicine to help them.
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Post by: Nomaken on October 07, 2006, 04:50:51 PM: If i had a choice, i'd sooner have jesus help me on my irritible bowel syndrome.
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Post by: SovaNu on October 07, 2006, 07:11:59 PM: well maybe golden light is better than medication and other stupid cures, though they better not try to perform any exorcisms or i'll kick their asses... >:(
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 07, 2006, 07:40:02 PM: Ach we had Jehovahs at the door the other day and let me tell you, they were damn lucky i didnt answer the door, and my mum did instead. They have a new angle and "material" which is aimed at people with stress, emotional probs, mental/psychological conditions and the like, it was rather nasty indeed and some of their bullshit seemed as if they were slightly influenced by the scientology nonsense regarding anti-psychotic medication and anti-depressants etc, apparently you dont need it because if you seek refuge in their faith, Jehova will sheild you from stress etc etc, only those who are non-believers are afflicted with stress blablabla. Thankfully mother finally did the listen im not into that way of thinking, people and faiths like yours are enough to make anyone become an atheist, but have a nice day and then shut the door.

I was in bed in that half awake yet half asleep stasis (as in you can hear and you've got replies etc and your like ok im getting up and gonna fulfill this task but you realise your not properly awake, your trying to will yourself to get up but it doesnt happen, your like ok im getting up, nope, yep im getting up now but you just end up falling asleep again) by the time i finally got myself up they had left, i was sort of disappointed i wasnt up properly when they came to the door, i could have had so much fun with those morons.

They dont normally come around our way (since the people around here arent slow complaining about canvassers at the doors etc) i was rather surprised when i heard them at the door sprouting their bull.

Quote from: Nomaken on October 07, 2006, 04:50:51 PM
If i had a choice, i'd sooner have jesus help me on my irritible bowel syndrome.

LOL +1 for you dear Nomaken. ;)
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Post by: Leto729 on October 07, 2006, 07:55:04 PM: I used to be a Jehovah Witness Myself HG. ;)

What do You have a problem with them just asking?
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Post by: Tom/Mutate on October 08, 2006, 02:17:39 AM: When I was a teen being forced to go to church, the one thing that upset me the most was the sheer materialism of these people. On their healing drives and church visits Everything is geared to sell merchandise - books, CDs, videos of their sermons, and of course you have to pay a pretty dollar to go their seminars. This is the Pentecostal denomination.
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Post by: duncvis on October 08, 2006, 04:35:30 AM: Quote from: kevv729 on October 07, 2006, 07:55:04 PM
I used to be a Jehovah Witness Myself HG. ;)

What do You have a problem with them just asking?

I do. Proselytising is really fucking arrogant IMO. And preying on people with issues to get converts is just twisted.
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Post by: thepeaguy on October 08, 2006, 08:02:29 AM: Quote from: duncvis on October 08, 2006, 04:35:30 AM
Quote from: kevv729 on October 07, 2006, 07:55:04 PM
I used to be a Jehovah Witness Myself HG. ;)

What do You have a problem with them just asking?

I do. Proselytising is really fucking arrogant IMO. And preying on people with issues to get converts is just twisted.

They did that with my grandmother after grampy died. Selfish assholes.
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Post by: El on October 08, 2006, 08:04:25 AM: Quote from: thepeaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:11:28 PM
I'm getting rather bored with the discrimination among autistics. If you can speak, and show less developmental delays as you get older, you're somehow mildly autistic. If you're a "low-functioner", you're inferior to those labeled with the so-called AS label from the so-called autistic spectrum.

And so on and so on.

I wouldn't say inferior or superior, but I would honestly say Aspies and HF Auties are "luckier" in most ways. Does that seem a little more fair?
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 08, 2006, 12:04:27 PM: Quote from: duncvis on October 08, 2006, 04:35:30 AM
Quote from: kevv729 on October 07, 2006, 07:55:04 PM
I used to be a Jehovah Witness Myself HG. ;)

What do You have a problem with them just asking?

I do. Proselytising is really fucking arrogant IMO. And preying on people with issues to get converts is just twisted.

Yes Dunc i agree and the way they do behave and the things they say actually scares alot of people, its very wrong, especially theyre new angle. However i am also of the opinion canvassers wiether they be jehovahs, mormons or whatever going round peoples doors trying to forcefeed them "their idea of faith" and the like in general is out of order. Its wrong and theres no need for it, its all about control, people should be allowed to find their way and their definition of spirituality and faith on their own (whatever that may be) without these persistant looneys trying to convert and mentally manipulate them.

I notice the way you said "used to be" Kevv, any particular reason for that? ;)
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Post by: Leto729 on October 09, 2006, 09:27:16 AM: Must yet remember everybody has free will to chose not more or less than that in the end. It was years before I became a baptize member and yet I did chose to become a member of the Jehovah Witnesses. Blaming others like the Jehovah Witnesses I think is wrong in the end.
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Post by: thepeaguy on October 09, 2006, 09:34:31 AM: Quote from: PMS Elle on October 08, 2006, 08:04:25 AM
Quote from: thepeaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:11:28 PM
I'm getting rather bored with the discrimination among autistics. If you can speak, and show less developmental delays as you get older, you're somehow mildly autistic. If you're a "low-functioner", you're inferior to those labeled with the so-called AS label from the so-called autistic spectrum.

And so on and so on.

I wouldn't say inferior or superior, but I would honestly say Aspies and HF Auties are "luckier" in most ways. Does that seem a little more fair?

In your dreams, Alpha Spaz.
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Post by: Callaway on October 09, 2006, 10:15:05 AM: Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 09:27:16 AM
Must yet remember everybody has free will to chose not more or less than that in the end. It was years before I became a baptize member and yet I did chose to become a member of the Jehovah Witnesses. Blaming others like the Jehovah Witnesses I think is wrong in the end.

I respect the Jehovah's Witnesses for standing up for their beliefs, but try to see it from the point of view of the people that they try to proselytize, Kevv.

Imagine that I joined a new religion called Pastafarianism and I went door-to-door trying to convert people to it. Let's say that you told me when I rang your doorbell and you answered your door that you had your own beliefs that you were perfectly happy with and that you had no interest whatsoever in converting to Pastafarianism, but I was intolerant of your beliefs and told you that Pastafarianism was the only true religion, and that only by worshiping the one true Flying Spaghetti Monster could you be saved. I had booklets that I wanted to share with you and I wanted to come into your house and read them with you. I also had my own version of the Bible, which was just a little different than the Bible you already knew cover-to-cover, that supported my Pastafarian beliefs. Let's say that I came and rang your doorbell to tell you this same message, which you had already told me that you did not want to hear, early in the morning one day every week. This was a problem for you because you had just gotten to sleep three hours before I rang your doorbell most of these mornings because of insomnia. Now, how cheerful will you be to see my smiling face at your door trying to proselytize you once a week?
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Post by: Leto729 on October 09, 2006, 11:12:32 AM: I understand what You are saying Callaway. They though as they see it are following Jesus example. For even Jesus went to peoples houses did He not. I not saying what they are doing is right or wrong. Even after saying that it is still up to You to chose nobody else.
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Post by: purposefulinsanity on October 09, 2006, 12:33:08 PM: Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 09:27:16 AM
Must yet remember everybody has free will to chose not more or less than that in the end. It was years before I became a baptize member and yet I did chose to become a member of the Jehovah Witnesses. Blaming others like the Jehovah Witnesses I think is wrong in the end.

How much free will do you have when someone refuses to take a polite 'I'm not interested thanks' as an answer and insists on trying to convert you anyway?

Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 11:12:32 AM
I understand what You are saying Callaway. They though as they see it are following Jesus example. For even Jesus went to peoples houses did He not. I not saying what they are doing is right or wrong. Even after saying that it is still up to You to chose nobody else.

But wasn't Jesus a welcome visitor Kevv? If Jehovahs Witnesses learn how to turn water into wine, they're welcome to in my home anytime they like :P
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Post by: Leto729 on October 09, 2006, 02:08:41 PM: Quote from: purposefulinsanity on October 09, 2006, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 09:27:16 AM
Must yet remember everybody has free will to chose not more or less than that in the end. It was years before I became a baptize member and yet I did chose to become a member of the Jehovah Witnesses. Blaming others like the Jehovah Witnesses I think is wrong in the end.

How much free will do you have when someone refuses to take a polite 'I'm not interested thanks' as an answer and insists on trying to convert you anyway?
Some maybe over zealous for there own good. You just need to be firm with them and ask to leave You alone.
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Post by: thepeaguy on October 09, 2006, 02:09:10 PM: Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: purposefulinsanity on October 09, 2006, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: kevv729 on October 09, 2006, 09:27:16 AM
Must yet remember everybody has free will to chose not more or less than that in the end. It was years before I became a baptize member and yet I did chose to become a member of the Jehovah Witnesses. Blaming others like the Jehovah Witnesses I think is wrong in the end.

How much free will do you have when someone refuses to take a polite 'I'm not interested thanks' as an answer and insists on trying to convert you anyway?
Some maybe over zealous for there own good. You just need to be firm with them and ask to leave You alone.

...in the end.
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 09, 2006, 09:56:21 PM: Quote
You just need to be firm with them and ask to leave You alone.
Yes especially the ones who try and put their foot in your door as you try to shut it (and let me tell you Kevv theres bloody plenty of those ones), my response to their type in the past has been quite simple and would still be the same now "fuck off before you become an amputee" or "do you know what an interim interdict with an arrest warrant attached is?, i doubt your church will be happy and defintely doubt you will be able to go around doors so easily when it becomes public knowledge you have a record" ;D

Thats why alot of Jehovas are so passionately disliked, the ones who tend to come round the doors or actively canvass are usually nasty, persistant individuals, who refuse to listen or accept anything other than what they personally believe and when you dont agree with them you soon see their true colours (people like that to me just show that they no nothing at all about genuine faith or spirituality, they are simply people who fool themselves into thinking they are the only ones who are truly spiritual/have faith, the ones following the true path etc but they are in fact the ones who are far from the true meaning of spirituality etc and are really just using their idea of religion as an armour or disguise to hide "their sins", the fact that they really know nothing at all about true faith/spirituality and to try manipulate/distract and get control over people who are more open to finding their path. Theyre behaviour is more akin to cult like than truly religious).

Ive encountered some right loons in general weither they be Jehovah, Mormon, Fanatical Christians/Catholics etc, no wonder some of the kids who have to grow up around that end up being so lost and messed up, when you see the shit they have rammed down their throats, they are not allowed to grow or find themselves. Some of the things these people who have falsey declared themselves religious say and do are enough to damn them themselves to the jeudo/christianic idea of "hell" once they die. Im fortunate that im not easily scared or intimidated by people like them, and that i have deepily rooted beliefs etc and can easily put them straight without hesitation if theyre nasty and send them packing weither they damn me to hell outloud or not, but there are people who are genuinely frightened by the things that these people say to them, especially young people. Its wrong and its these types of people/religions that are sending out all the wrong messages about what faith really is and play a part in why so many people turn their back on spirituality and faith.

Read over my previous post Kevv, im not saying its just Jehovahs or all Jehovahs, but alot of them here that ive encountered and heard about hell yes (but thats because its mainly only them and Mormons who tend to canvass around doors/streets), NOONE has the right to go around doors forcefeeding people THEIR idea of faith/spirituality/religion or anything else for that matter and especially not scaring them. Dont get me wrong the mormons going around doors can be just as bad for some people BUT ive never yet encountered or heard firsthand about a mormon trying to put their foot in a door when youve tried to close it, it doesnt mean it hasnt happened but in my experience theyve tended to just go "oh well then, are you sure you wouldnt like to chat further? ok then thanks for your time miss (and whatever your surname is)" or something along those lines and theyve tended to listen to what ive had to say before moving along without being nasty or forceful. Ive found that the Mormons were more open to listening and engaging in general discussion, accepting your views even though they may not agree with them and some at times would like a little debate, where as the Jehovas were the total opposite and deserved the stigma they have attached to them.

Where i live personally you dont get many religious fanatics or people with cult like behaviour going round the doors, the people around here dont have much time for persistant people like that tresspassing onto their property and dont tolerate their behaviour one bit and the local police wouldnt have a problem making that clear also. Thats why i was surprised the Jehovas were at the door the other day, but i was informed the following day that they soon got moved on.

Infact this is a funny topic because the other day when i was at my friends store (this store is a multi cultural jewellery/artifact/book store of sorts, she covers most things from crystal jewellery/crystals/stones, to world jewellery, including hindu items, egyptian items, japanese/chinese items, wiccan items, celtic items, fairies, tarot, and books that cover most faiths and lots of other areas) anyways she was telling me how these two people came in and she was wary of them as they were acting strange and they were very closed minded, dissing things and muttering to each other about what a disgrace her store was, how sinful she was etc (not her usual type of customer) anyways she said she gave them the benefit of the doubt afterall ANYONE was welcome into her store and free to browse until they gave her good enough reason otherwise. She was being nice to them but they kept blanking so she gave up, she was distracted by a phone call and afterwards just went back to her desk and started sorting out the new items by putting hand made price tags and descriptions on them and left the two people browsing the books.

Anyways the two people left in a hurry when she went to them asking if they wanted any help or information on any of the items. She thought nothing more of it until some other customers came in hours later and she recommended a book to one. She went to go get it from one of the bookcases (the one the two people were looking through) to show the girl the index section and a little envelope fell out and inside there was a message reading something along the lines of "Your kind are a disgrace to humanity and you will all burn in hell unless you admit your sins now and seek refuge in Jesus our lord and saviour, if you do not follow the right path you will deserve to burn." So she thought shed look through the rest of the books in that bookcase just incase and she came across a bunch of other little envelopes scattered throughout various books with similar messages inside about going to hell and all the rest. She like myself found it very funny that people who would refer to themselves as being spiritual, of faith or religious would behave in that way, even though she was also digusted by it too and rightly so.

I find that type of behaviour disgusting, and anyone who supports it is just as bad as the people actively doing it. Those who act in such a way have no idea what genuine faith and spirituality is, they've gotten very lost in translation, learned nothing and missed the point. They also have no right to condemn other peoples faiths especially with the way they conduct themselves and theirs.

We all have the right to find out who and what we are, what and who we believe in (if anything), draw conclusions and find or follow our own paths in life whatever they may be on our own for ourselves without force, invasion/interference or manipulation. Sure some may strongly disagree with other peoples religions/belief sytems/views but that doesnt give them the right to go around peoples doors, tresspassing and invading their right to privacy etc forcefeeding them scripture, trying to manipulate them, brainwash them into their personal idea of faith and being nasty to them when they dont agree and explain that they have their own beliefs/faith, or when they dont fall into line. You dont need to agree with someones religious beliefs etc but you should still respect that they are entitled to them, even though you may not respect the way that some people who call themselves religious or part of a certain religion/faith have interpreted things and conducted themselves.

The bottom line is Kevv, for me its nothing to do with their personal beliefs (even though i find Jeudo/Christianic/Jehovah beliefs in general recycled edited nonsense and hypocritical etc, i still believe that people are entitled to their own personal beliefs and i respect that, aslong as they dont actively interfer with others) Basically its the way a proportion of these people conduct themselves and behave thats the problem. So dont take anything personally.

Sorry its very early, im sleepy and cant be arsed checking spelling errors etc, so i apologise if nothing make sense, it is 4:56am afterall.
;D
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Post by: QuirkyCarla on October 09, 2006, 10:16:42 PM: Whoa, that's a whole essay!
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Post by: Nomaken on October 09, 2006, 10:23:03 PM: I love people who come to my door. It doesn't happen very often.... anymore. I basically start ranting about asheron's call or world of warcraft or something else stupid. And eventually they can't stand anymore and leave.
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 09, 2006, 10:42:25 PM: Yeah QC i really was THAT bored. :green:

Nomaken, im the kind of person who sticks stone gargoyles outside their door and appeals for the use of electrified fencing to try keep unwanted visitors away. ;)
I wouldnt have a prob with you ranting about world of warcraft or Asherons call mainly because i dont know much about them. So rant away. :P
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Post by: Lucifer on October 10, 2006, 12:01:19 AM: i've invited JWs in a couple of times - once saying "come back later", cos i was busy. they never do. i can't imagine why.

mostly i just say, no thank you, very politely - i have no problem with others having following any path they choose, as long as they're not harming someone, directly or indirectly. i do have a problem with the proselytising maniacs who are just fucking rude, though - a mormon twat forced ME into being discourteous and walking off, cos he just wouldn't get out of my face, and i LOATHE discourtesy.

of course, if i'm tired or upset or whatever, i tend to say something along the lines of, "no, thank you, i have my own religion, thanks," which they can't resist asking what it is. when i say, "i'm a witch," their faces go all funny. seems to be easier to get rid of them after that, though.

the cheekiest one (and possibly my best comeback) was me saying no thanks, and him saying, "don't you want to be saved, then?" my response was to look him straight in the eye and say, "no, not particularly." he didn't have a clue what to say.
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Post by: McGiver on October 10, 2006, 08:36:14 AM: Callaway
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I respect the Jehovah's Witnesses for standing up for their beliefs, but try to see it from the point of view of the people that they try to proselytize, Kevv.

that is just not fair. and i am in too much of a hurry to look it up.
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 10, 2006, 09:19:44 AM: lol yes Lucifer+1
Imagine the horror on the faces when they realise you are both Hindu & witch or when you offer them a look around your shrine which amongst others has a lovely little dedication to the Goddess Kali. ;) Ive found its very easy to earn yourself a place in the little black book pretty fast. Even more so if they notice the name of your gargoyle on your doorstep. ;D

I find its usually best to not answer the door to these people (especially if your a vulnerable person) or open it say "no thanks" then send them on their way by shutting it, unless its a right twat and then well its play time. Luckily we've mostly encountered the nasty twats or derranged fanatic so theres no feeling of guilt etc attached to telling them to piss off or whatever. ;D

If they actually just civily discussed how they find their faith, how it is for them etc yet also enquired about the other persons, listened to their views and accepted they too were also entitled to theirs and left it at there without any of the nonsense they come away with, the nastyness or trying to push their way in doors etc id be fine with letting them in, however with the majority of these canvassers they dont want to understand or accept (prob why they are sent out to canvass ;D), its very one sided and full of nothing but persistant peddling nonsense, ignorance, arrogance and unattractive behaviour which has no essence of spirituality surrounding it and i have no time for these so called people of faith who are nothing more than cult like religion sellers with no respect for anything other than their way.

Like these ones at my door the other day talking about how people with emotional probs/mental probs, pain, depression and stress etc are suffering through their own fault and rejecting the Lord, if they seeked refuge in Jehovah blablabla they would be well again and all afflictions would be removed, they would be purified and all this nonsense, and the going on about the use of medication for mental disorders, depression etc being wrong and people are just damning themselves etc. That is outrageous, especially when they could be saying this to people who are very vulnerable and fragile, the thoughts that would put in their heads is very wrong. These canvassers with messages like that are the ones damning people and the way they behave at times is unforgivable. When mum showed me their additional booklet i thought about sending it on to the charity SANE to see what they thought of it, because im sure there are many charities, organisations out there that would have no problem trying to tackle it or approach it, since it is a danger to people who are already fragile. However instead i passed some of the details onto a woman i know who is a mental health worker who does work between various surgeries in the local area to make her aware, she photocopied it and then i did what i consider the best thing to do with material of that nature which isnt worth the attention or publicity and burned it.

As you say Lucifer.
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i have no problem with others having following any path they choose, as long as they're not harming someone, directly or indirectly. i do have a problem with the proselytising maniacs who are just fucking rude
That basically sums it up.

Anyways must dash, my mother was rushed to A&E today, so i need to make some calls see if shes ok, if shes coming home, needs me to go down or whatever, since i had to stay here and take care of some things for her that she couldnt do.
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Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 10, 2006, 09:33:54 AM: Quote from: McJagger on October 10, 2006, 08:36:14 AM
that is just not fair. and i am in too much of a hurry to look it up.

No need to look it up, im sure they have no probs making house calls, just look up the yellow pages, im sure there will be a number somewhere. ;)
Of course i say that in jest with no intention of upsetting anyone. :P
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Post by: SovaNu on October 10, 2006, 12:18:02 PM: i generally hate people ringing the doorbell anyway. i am too paranoid/shy/looney to open the door.

i love gargoyles.
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Post by: Callaway on October 10, 2006, 12:50:49 PM: Quote from: McJagger on October 10, 2006, 08:36:14 AM
Callaway
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I respect the Jehovah's Witnesses for standing up for their beliefs, but try to see it from the point of view of the people that they try to proselytize, Kevv.

that is just not fair. and i am in too much of a hurry to look it up.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/proselytize

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proselytize

One entry found for proselytize.

Main Entry: prosÂ·eÂ·lyÂ·tize
Pronunciation: 'prÃ¤-s(&-)l&-"tIz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -tized; -tizÂ·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb : to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause
- prosÂ·eÂ·lyÂ·tiÂ·zaÂ·tion /"prÃ¤-s(&-)l&-t&-'zA-sh&n, "prÃ¤-s&-"lI-t&-/ noun
- prosÂ·eÂ·lyÂ·tizÂ·er /'prÃ¤-s(&-)l&-"tI-z&r/ noun
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Lucifer on October 10, 2006, 03:33:52 PM: Quote from: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 10, 2006, 09:19:44 AM
Anyways must dash, my mother was rushed to A&E today, so i need to make some calls see if shes ok, if shes coming home, needs me to go down or whatever, since i had to stay here and take care of some things for her that she couldnt do.

yikes. is your mum okay, HG?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 10, 2006, 07:26:11 PM: Quote from: MillaPill on October 10, 2006, 12:18:02 PM
i love gargoyles.

YAY!!!!!! +1 just for the fact you like gargoyles. ;)

Hey Lucifer, well mum basically mum woke up on Sunday with a head to toe severe skin allergic reaction to something it was like massive scald marks/burns really nasty marks all over her body and she had some chest pains etc, so she got to the docs on Monday and they gave her a course of antihistimines, the doc was worried about the chest pains etc, but told her to take the tabs and if things got worse or she had any swelling, further chest pains etc she was to go straight to the A&E.
Anyways she took the tabs that evening, and following day she woke up with massive swollen lips, her neck was swollen, had bad chest pains, and her muscles were painful, and she has these new types of marks on her skin, so she had to go to hospital. The docs ran tests and wanted to give her a nebulizer and steriods, it seems they think the further progression of her symptoms was caused by the antihistimines.
The head consultant overruled the emergency department doctor and said even though it was a severe reaction, he wasnt gonna give her steriods and start her on that route if he didnt need to and she had no history of that in the past, instead he got in contact with a specialist allergy clinic. So she has to go to the GP tommorrow get her appointment for the clinic and we shall see what happens, hopefully she will feel alot better by then, heres hoping.
If she develops further symptoms or gets worse im to get her back to the hospital immediately. I havent had much sleep and wont be able to get any sleep, as ive been having to check on her, make sure she doesnt get worse etc, as shes still got the pains in her limbs and chest even though her lips have went down.

Anyways yeah thanks for asking Lucifer.
Im sure she will be ok, fingers crossed, i just hope she makes a sharpish recovery.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: BadgerTom on October 10, 2006, 07:45:53 PM: awww HG hope ur mums feeling better......

anywho did you know that Jesus (when he returns) will actually be a Super Saiya-jin 8)

its true, they say that when he returns from heaven:

"And with bright yellow aura will he fall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great strength." (Matthew 24:29-31 RSV)

1) Jesus will have a Yellow Aura

2) and have incredible Power

"Then TheLord will go forth and fight against those nations as when He fights on a day of battle." (Zechariah 14:3-5)

3) Will fight anyone who stands in his way...

(http://www.ninjapirate.com/images/supersaiyanjesus.jpg)

www.ninjapirate.com/returnofjesus.html

make way for teh Lord
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Callaway on October 10, 2006, 09:33:46 PM: Quote from: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 10, 2006, 07:26:11 PM
Hey Lucifer, well mum basically mum woke up on Sunday with a head to toe severe skin allergic reaction to something it was like massive scald marks/burns really nasty marks all over her body and she had some chest pains etc, so she got to the docs on Monday and they gave her a course of antihistimines, the doc was worried about the chest pains etc, but told her to take the tabs and if things got worse or she had any swelling, further chest pains etc she was to go straight to the A&E.
Anyways she took the tabs that evening, and following day she woke up with massive swollen lips, her neck was swollen, had bad chest pains, and her muscles were painful, and she has these new types of marks on her skin, so she had to go to hospital. The docs ran tests and wanted to give her a nebulizer and steriods, it seems they think the further progression of her symptoms was caused by the antihistimines.

That sounds horrible, Hypnotica Gaze. It almost sounds like Stevens Johnson Syndrome, which is a terrible allergic reaction to some drugs, but your mother did not start taking a new medicine recently before her rash started, did she? I hope that she feels better soon and that they manage to figure out to what she is so horribly allergic, so that she never ingests whatever it was again.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: BadgerTom on October 10, 2006, 10:02:05 PM: yea i hate allergic reactions, aint had one since childhood actually (and that nearly finished me off), when i was mistakenly given amoxillin, (incidentally about a day after i was found to be allergic, in the same hospital, and by the same nurse.... i mean WTF), but yea i was like 6 or 7 and had a cramped chest, and went a weird purpley-blue colour for about 12 hours.... but now i rarely get ill, maybe cos of the things that have bolstered my Immune system (i hope)...

anywho, yea wish ur mum well (even tho she doesnt know me its the thought that counts right ?)
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Callaway on October 10, 2006, 10:05:52 PM: I'm allergic to amoxicillin too and so is my daughter. We both get itchy hives if we take it, but so far it does not cause us to have difficulty breathing.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: BadgerTom on October 10, 2006, 10:15:00 PM: well that was 16 odd years ago for me, my mum may have exaggerated as per always....

ouch, have you or your daughter got ADHD btw, as i am curious as to how many other aspies here have it too....

fuck that actually i'll make a new thread.... but where to put it ?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 11, 2006, 01:33:36 AM: i'm sorry HG that's awful :( i hope she's gonna be ok. is it a freak attack of allergies then? i had a weird allergic spell when i was in england, i drank half a bottle of some citrus drink and all a sudden i felt awful like it was hard to breathe and i got really nauseous and fatigued and my whole throat and lung area felt awful. and pine trees were making it worse and they were everywhere... then i took some benadryl and got better and it's never happened again. i was afraid i was gonna die, it felt like my surroundings were attacking me, nature felt toxic... anyway that just reminded me of it. sometimes weird shit happens out of the blue and then goes away, i hope this'll clear out soon for your mom.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on October 11, 2006, 07:59:22 AM: That must have been scary for you both HG- I hope she's feeling much better today.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 11, 2006, 11:05:20 AM: Thanks everyone.

Had a really meh night lastnight, the swelling in her lips had went down, and i thought shed be fine, i checked on her at 2:30am, she was fine except the muscular pains, sore and itchy skin etc then around 3am i went back in to check after shed went down had a glass of milk and the side of her face and her top lip was badily swollen, worse than before.

I kept checking on her as she didnt want to go to A&E, as nothing else was worse just her face and the A&E docs are plonkers, so got her round to the docs first thing at 9am, and basically the doc said she doesnt think it was the anthihestamine at all, its more likely that mum was still in contact with the allergen. Which i said to mum when she started swelling etc again, even though we couldnt work out what it was. Anyways we think it may have been the new citrus fruity washing up liquid mum changed to a couple of days ago, since its the only thing thats changed. Needless to say i got rid of it, so mums to wait till the swellings went down and take the new antihistimine shes been given and see if that helps.

It wasnt very nice watching her like that, because she kept swelling and looked so different etc, my bro was freaked out, so i had to calm him down aswell as look after mum, makesure she was alright and would tell me if she felt anything new etc so i could follow the neccessary steps.

But yeah thanks again everyone, hopefully things will get better now and that the washing up liquid was indeed what she had the reaction to.

Yeah Milla, that must have been really horrible and very frightening. Thats good the benadryl helped and you never got it again. :)

Once again, thanks everyone :)
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Lucifer on October 11, 2006, 11:14:02 AM: /sends hugs, chocolate, healing doodahs, all that jazz to HG and her mum.

V x
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 11, 2006, 11:27:49 AM: interesting your mom had a reaction to a citrus based thing...

maybe it'll blow over like mine did. hopefully. :)
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 11, 2006, 12:45:22 PM: Quote from: BadgerTom on October 10, 2006, 10:02:05 PM
anywho, yea wish ur mum well (even tho she doesnt know me its the thought that counts right ?)
Yeah it is Tom, and thank you.

I know quite a lot of people who have had reactions to Amoxicillin, that and Brufen seem to be popular offenders. Yeah Callaway the skin reaction can be annoying and bad enough as it is, without other added complications, its good you and your daughter havent had really severe reactions to the drug. :)

:) thanks Lucifer.

Yeah Milla it is, damn these citrus based products! ;)

Well shes been joking about how she feels like Leslie Ash after the collagen lip enhancing injections fiasco that gave her magnified fishlips. ;D So even though shes still got the swollen lips, some of her other symptoms have lessened and shes gotten a little bit perkier, shes not as down and stressed out, which is great, so yeah hopefully it will continue to ease and blow over without any further setbacks. :)
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 11, 2006, 12:48:01 PM: oh that's good, joking is usually a good sign. :P
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 11, 2006, 01:02:23 PM: Indeed! ;D >:D
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Tom/Mutate on October 13, 2006, 09:23:08 AM: Quote from: PMS Elle on October 08, 2006, 08:04:25 AM

I wouldn't say inferior or superior, but I would honestly say Aspies and HF Auties are "luckier" in most ways. Does that seem a little more fair?

Even the Rain-Man laughs at how autistic you are!

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3424/dustinhoffman1np7.jpg)
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: thepeaguy on October 13, 2006, 09:43:48 AM: Quote from: La_Mala on October 13, 2006, 09:23:08 AM
Quote from: PMS Elle on October 08, 2006, 08:04:25 AM

I wouldn't say inferior or superior, but I would honestly say Aspies and HF Auties are "luckier" in most ways. Does that seem a little more fair?

Even the Rain-Man laughs at how autistic you are!

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3424/dustinhoffman1np7.jpg)

You fool. That guy's an actor!

Meet the real Rain Man:

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Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Lucifer on October 13, 2006, 03:47:24 PM: is this the shag it or bag it thread?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 14, 2006, 06:16:42 AM: Dustin is definitely shagworthy :eyebrows:
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: McGiver on October 14, 2006, 06:56:17 AM: you mean dustin diamond from saved by the bell.

would you like a dirty sanchez?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 14, 2006, 09:37:21 AM: eww jagger you know i meant hoffman! :P
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: QuirkyCarla on October 14, 2006, 11:07:49 AM: now i'm thinking of that scene in meet the fockers with him, barbara streisand, and the whipped cream :laugh:
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: thepeaguy on October 14, 2006, 11:16:08 AM: Quote from: MillaPill on October 14, 2006, 06:16:42 AM
Dustin is definitely shagworthy :eyebrows:

Would he shag you, though, one ponders?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 14, 2006, 12:28:15 PM: doesn't matter, i wouldn't shag him.
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: McGiver on October 16, 2006, 01:19:21 PM: would you like a filthy screech?
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: SovaNu on October 16, 2006, 03:51:04 PM: ::shudder::
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Scrapheap on October 22, 2006, 05:20:29 PM: It's important to note that this particular douchebag is associated with Benny Hinn, another world-class douche!!

Birds of a feather.....................
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: BadgerTom on October 22, 2006, 08:48:04 PM: Quote from: McJagger on October 16, 2006, 01:19:21 PM
would you like a filthy screech?

lemme guess you wanted secretly to be barbara streissand in that particular fantasy ;D
Title: Re: This just in - JESUS can help us with our AS!!!!
Post by: Scrapheap on October 24, 2006, 12:23:27 AM: Quote from: McJagger on October 14, 2006, 06:56:17 AM
you mean dustin diamond from saved by the bell.

would you like a dirty sanchez?

Eeeww! That's almost as bad as "Chili Dogging"