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Title: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 06:09:17 PM
When you get a job and fill out a W2 form, is there some way you can opt out of paying Social Security taxes and medicare tax? I know you can write exempt and pay the IRS at the end of the year but what i'm asking is, is there anyway to just pay Federal taxes, and state tax? without paying SS tax and medicare tax.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 06:33:26 PM
not that i know of.
but i do know that taxes are a waste of the working classes money.  and social security likely won't be there for you when you are ready to start collecting on it.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 06:44:30 PM
social security likely won't be there for you when you are ready to start collecting on it.
exactly thats why i want out now!!
ive been doing a bit of reserch and it seems like you can get out of it but you have to join a religious organization, such as the amish or whatever those fuckers are called in order to opt out of paying SS tax. that doesn't really seem fair, and seems almost unconstitutional for an ordinary person to want to do the same but cant. i'd still join the amish though, in getting out of paying SS tax!
 you gotta do what you gotta do 8)
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 06:47:46 PM
actually, i understand that most taxes are unconstitutiona, if not all.


remember what the boston tea party was about?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 06:51:42 PM
there's no way you'll prove that even though its the truth. people have already tried proving it unconstitutional and its failed everytime. its all the jews fault!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 06:57:22 PM
i want to start a list:

blacks
gays
mexicans
jews


have i missed any?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 06:59:31 PM
yes, you left out native americans.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 07:01:06 PM
i want to start a list:

blacks
gays
mexicans
jews
native americans


let us know if there is more.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 07:04:20 PM
you can sum up all those non whites into the category of  "colored people" that way it doesn't look so bad. fuck your diversity i don't have to like it!!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 07:06:44 PM
i didn't say that i disagree with you.
its just that i have meet several people of color who i ilke and respect.

i have never walked a mile in your shoes, i don't know what gave you these ideas.  but judging by your level of hatred it must have been aweful.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: QuirkyCarla on September 15, 2006, 07:14:52 PM
prejudice/racism stems from ignorance
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 07:30:42 PM
prejudice/racism stems from ignorance
fear of the unknown and lifes experience probably play a vital part.  i am curious as to why, for richard.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 08:28:57 PM
yes, you left out native americans.

You could always leave my country, you know. ;)
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 08:33:54 PM
if it was youre country why didn't you keep it? obviously the people that took it from you wanted it more. and everyone wants to be indian or part indian these days? why? is it some special club or something? its alot like when i was in the mental hospital and we all had group in the mornings, people would get so exited about what medications they were on, like they were fucking having church about it. thats nothing to be exited about believe me!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 08:36:48 PM
if it was youre country why didn't you keep it? obviously the people that took it from you wanted it more. and everyone wants to be indian or part indian these days? why? is it some special club or something? its alot like when iw as in the mental hospital and we all had group in the mornings, people would get so exited about what medications they were on, like they were fucking having church about it.

Er, being born on a reservation and adopted off it, it's not really a question of wanting to be Native American.

My comment was tongue in cheek to your racism.  Obviously, you think that other races are inferior, and you've implied that you don't want Mexicans coming into your country - yet you get quite defensive when I imply that maybe... just maybe... whites immigrated here too.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Leto729 on September 15, 2006, 09:00:58 PM
Yeah they did.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 09:27:21 PM
if it was youre country why didn't you keep it? obviously the people that took it from you wanted it more. and everyone wants to be indian or part indian these days? why? is it some special club or something? its alot like when iw as in the mental hospital and we all had group in the mornings, people would get so exited about what medications they were on, like they were fucking having church about it.
Er, being born on a reservation and adopted off it, it's not really a question of wanting to be Native American.
My comment was tongue in cheek to your racism.  Obviously, you think that other races are inferior, and you've implied that you don't want Mexicans coming into your country - yet you get quite defensive when I imply that maybe... just maybe... whites immigrated here too.
Defensive? well ok. and i didn't a have a choice to wich country i was born in, or who made me (mom and dad) or where they came from and where they decided to finally stay understand!! everyone thats colored has a choice to come to america that is the difference, when you go back to ellis island do you see coloreds? or mostley whities of european decent? you don't see no mexicans or africans do you? you don't because they choose to come here, mostley mexicans. the africans that where here back then were the escape slaves and stuff. i don't believe the contienet of africa chose to come to america untill recently
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 09:30:22 PM
where did your anger come from?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 09:31:11 PM
Defensive? well ok. and i didn't a have a choice to wich country i was born in, or who made me (mom and dad) or where they came from and where they decided to finally stay understand!! everyone thats colored has a choice to come to america that is the difference, when you go back to ellis island do you see coloreds? or mostley whities or european decent? you don't see no mexicans or africans do you?

Do you honestly think that all the Africans currently living in the US are descended from people who came here of their own free will?

What is so bad about people immigrating in?  Do you oppose the immigration of Europeans to the US, or only "brown" people?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 09:37:01 PM
What is so bad about people immigrating in?  Do you oppose the immigration of Europeans to the US, or only "brown" people?
the problem with immigration is that, modern sociaty would have to think its good for everyone when infact its not. everything goes down, believe me. i don't think anyone should be aloud to migrate here, this country has enough people, to make more people for it. we don't need anymore people
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 09:38:15 PM
where did your anger come from?
its not anger.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 09:39:49 PM
the problem with immigration is that, modern sociaty would have to think its good for everyone when infact its not. everything goes down, believe me. i don't think anyone should be aloud to migrate here, this country has enough people, to make more people for it. we don't need anymore people

I can't "just believe you" though.

What would go down?  And why?

Could you give me a breakdown about what it is about each race that you find inferior, also?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 09:44:01 PM
the problem with immigration is that, modern sociaty would have to think its good for everyone when infact its not. everything goes down, believe me. i don't think anyone should be aloud to migrate here, this country has enough people, to make more people for it. we don't need anymore people
What would go down?  And why?
crime for starters. mexicans and blacks commit more crimes than white people do. why do you think are jails are so over crowded?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 09:50:55 PM
crime for starters. mexicans and blacks commit more crimes than white people do. why do you think are jails are so over crowded?

If you want to believe that though, are you also in favor of aborting all male babies, because the majority of people who commit crimes are male?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 09:55:20 PM
crime for starters. mexicans and blacks commit more crimes than white people do. why do you think are jails are so over crowded?
If you want to believe that though, are you also in favor of aborting all male babies, because the majority of people who commit crimes are male?
if there not white? sure, since there's more of a likelyhood that a non white will commit a crime.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 10:02:19 PM
And Native Americans and Jews? 

Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 10:17:29 PM
yes because if it wasn't for the jews, who i might add own all the banks in the country and just about everything else everyone would be much better off. not to mention there religion adds alot to the worlds problems. natives? yes, i live on the edge of the largest indian reservation in the united states. don't even get me started on how much of a pain in the ass indians are
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 10:20:50 PM
yes because if it wasn't for the jews, who i might add own all the banks in the country and just about everything else everyone would be much better off. not to mention there religion adds alot to the worlds problems. natives? yes, i live on the edge of the largest indian reservation in the united states. don't even get me started on how much of a pain in the ass indians are

So basically, everyone but the white man is out to get you and ruining your perfect little world?  Or are you just regurgitating what you've read on (hate group who must not be named) and other hate because they fear sites?



Edited to modify name of group who Google for their name and troll message boards that mention them.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 10:26:50 PM
i don't go to white power websites. im just proud of who i am and where i come from but as soon as someone who's white does that, they might aswell be called a terrorist
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 10:33:26 PM
i don't go white power websites. im just proud of who i am and where i come from but as soon as someone who's white does they might aswell be called a terrorist

There's a huge difference between pride and xenophobia.  Don't try to excuse racism as pride, it's a fucking weak cop-out.  You can be proud of who you are and where you come from without hatred for anyone else. 

And honestly, what is the difference between your views and the views of a terrorist?  You advocate eugenics to purify your nation, while they advocate death of infidels.  I'm not seeing the difference.  And since you brought up terrorism, what exactly do you think the whites did to the Native Americans when they sent them off on the Trail of Tears?  No race is perfect.  No person is perfect.  We live with our imperfections and if we want to be able to create something useful out of this world, we're best served living with those imperfections in a way that opens doors, not closes them.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 10:40:21 PM
where did your anger come from?
its not anger.
were you jumped by a bunch of brown people?

does your dad  or mom dislike people of color?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 10:45:17 PM
i don't go white power websites. im just proud of who i am and where i come from but as soon as someone who's white does they might aswell be called a terrorist
There's a huge difference between pride and xenophobia.  Don't try to excuse racism as pride, it's a fucking weak cop-out.  You can be proud of who you are and where you come from without hatred for anyone else. 

And honestly, what is the difference between your views and the views of a terrorist?  You advocate eugenics to purify your nation, while they advocate death of infidels.  I'm not seeing the difference.  And since you brought up terrorism, what exactly do you think the whites did to the Native Americans when they sent them off on the Trail of Tears?  No race is perfect.  No person is perfect.  We live with our imperfections and if we want to be able to create something useful out of this world, we're best served living with those imperfections in a way that opens doors, not closes them.
if white people are aloud to be proud of who they are howcome there's no national white day, like there is african american month or cinco de mayo for the mexicans? are whites supose to suffer forever for what some did to slaves, and indians? might i also add that muslims had white slaves back in the day but i don't see anyone raising a stink about that. only when it envolves blacks. and the difference between terrorism and racism is one has to do with religion and the other doesn't.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 15, 2006, 10:48:23 PM
were you jumped by a bunch of brown people?

does your dad  or mom dislike people of color?

He's all yours now, McJ.  Maybe he'd be happier talking to a white man than a brown/red girl (though he'd think I was white if he met me. :p)

Though, if the guy I'm seeing now and I ever end up having a child, I shall think fondly of richard when we do.  It would be a lovely half asian, half native american kid.  ;)
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 10:53:24 PM
hey i might be racist but im always up for seeing some beautiful tits! post pics!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 10:56:16 PM
so how did you get to this point?

did you go to predominantly brown HS?
did they bully you?
your parents?

how?

i am not saying that your arguments are wrong per se, i just want to know why you hate all people of color?
where did your motivation come from?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 10:59:42 PM
so how did you get to this point?

did you go to predominantly brown HS?
did they bully you?
your parents?

how?

i am not saying that your arguments are wrong per se, i just want to know why you hate all people of color?
where did your motivation come from?
i was born that way. i have no idea how i came to disliking people of color so much
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 11:01:27 PM
aren't you tired of black people claiming racism at every turn?
do you think they were born that way, i mean taking the easy argument against their lot in life?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 11:03:20 PM
aren't you tired of black people claiming racism at every turn?
do you think they were born that way, i mean taking the easy argument against their lot in life?
exactly! blacks have the best memory and they'll never let you forgett about what your great great great grandfather did to there family!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: QuirkyCarla on September 15, 2006, 11:04:31 PM
i read on ratemyprofessors.com that one of my professors is racist against white people, but that doesn't seem true at all, so white people do it too. Anytime someone of another race has a problem with someone they always gotta bring race into it.  ::)
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 11:07:07 PM
aren't you tired of black people claiming racism at every turn?
do you think they were born that way, i mean taking the easy argument against their lot in life?
exactly! blacks have the best memory and they'll never let you forgett about what your great great great grandfather did to there family!

why should you pay for the sins of the father (or in this case, the great great grandfather)!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
yes, yes, now you have it!!
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 15, 2006, 11:12:52 PM
what i am trying to explain to you is that i see your points.  i just do not have such a radical viewpoint as you do.
believe me, i am not one to push diversity on someone.  nor do i buy into most politically correct bullshit, if any.

i really want to keep this discussion going with you.  but i have to go to sleep shortly.  will you be here tomorrow?
would you like to see my tits.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 11:15:15 PM
yes i'll be here tomorrow :D
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Lucifer on September 15, 2006, 11:30:54 PM
i would join in, but...


brick wall                                                               head

and that's where i like to keep them.

Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: QuirkyCarla on September 15, 2006, 11:31:44 PM
join in their orgy  :D
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Callaway on September 15, 2006, 11:35:20 PM
i would join in, but...


brick wall                                                               head

and that's where i like to keep them.



Laughing out loud at the head and brick wall.

+
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Beowulf on September 16, 2006, 04:31:10 AM
crime for starters. mexicans and blacks commit more crimes than white people do. why do you think are jails are so over crowded?

If you want to believe that though, are you also in favor of aborting all male babies, because the majority of people who commit crimes are male?

That is a total non-sequitur.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Beowulf on September 16, 2006, 04:33:41 AM
i would join in, but...


brick wall                                                               head

and that's where i like to keep them.



That's what I feel like when I discuss immigration / race / culture with lefties.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Beowulf on September 16, 2006, 04:35:14 AM


http://www.amren.com/948issue/948issue.html#cover

Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: duncvis on September 16, 2006, 06:07:28 AM


http://www.amren.com/948issue/948issue.html#cover



Quote from: Lawrence Auster in article filled with racialist toss, completely underming any decent argument
The large and enduring differences in average intelligence between blacks and whites mean, first, that blacks on their own can never be expected to maintain a modern, democratic, civilized society; and second, that blacks can never be expected to achieve collective economic equality and other kinds of parity with whites. The forced attempt to achieve such collective equality, through affirmative action and through endless attacks on white racism as the supposed cause of existing inequalities, can only break down all the institutions and standards of society and lead to race warfare.

There are therefore only two sane options for black-white relations in this country. Either blacks accept the above facts; accept a society where white Western standards of law, behavior and intellectual life are dominant and where advancement will be open for blacks only on an individual, not a collective basis; accept their status as an ethnic minority and be grateful to be living in a white society where they have goods and opportunities undreamed of in a black society; or else, if blacks are not willing to accept these things, then to avoid race warfare there must be peaceful separation between the races.

what the fuck? you seriously read this shit? people scare me, seriously.  ???
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on September 16, 2006, 06:09:16 AM
richard,
have you always lived in arizona?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Silk on September 16, 2006, 02:16:20 PM
Just a couple points I want to bring up
1. The main reason there are predominantly blacks in prison is because of our country's War on Drugs.
2. Racism is not dead. As much as some people would like to believe that if anyone complains about racism it is not always someone trying to use the race card. Their are people like idiots by the name of Cynthia McKinney in this world who bring about that view point.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on September 16, 2006, 02:51:01 PM
richard,
have you always lived in arizona?
no. i've lived in california and colorado aswell
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Leto729 on September 16, 2006, 05:57:26 PM
Wasn't this suppose to be about taxes. ;D
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: Pyraxis on September 16, 2006, 06:22:29 PM
Though, if the guy I'm seeing now and I ever end up having a child, I shall think fondly of richard when we do.  It would be a lovely half asian, half native american kid.  ;)

You're seeing him now? Cool  ;D

Not to hijack this thread or anything.  Brick wall/head indeed.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: lilia on September 16, 2006, 06:40:32 PM
Though, if the guy I'm seeing now and I ever end up having a child, I shall think fondly of richard when we do.  It would be a lovely half asian, half native american kid.  ;)

You're seeing him now? Cool  ;D

Not to hijack this thread or anything.  Brick wall/head indeed.

Yes, let's hijack and speculate on what the kid would look like.  I'm curious now, as I don't know anyone who has combined Cherokee/Irish, and full Chinese.  I'm tempted to get pregnant just to see what pops out.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: QuirkyCarla on September 16, 2006, 07:18:53 PM
I'm tempted to get pregnant just to see what pops out.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: The_P on March 08, 2007, 01:24:11 PM
if it was youre country why didn't you keep it? obviously the people that took it from you wanted it more. and everyone wants to be indian or part indian these days? why? is it some special club or something? its alot like when i was in the mental hospital and we all had group in the mornings, people would get so exited about what medications they were on, like they were fucking having church about it. thats nothing to be exited about believe me!

Because you white fuckers fought with guns -- big difference.

My aboriginal ancestors from Scotland scared the living daylights out of the invading Romans -- hence the advent of Adrian's Wall. Native folk kick ass.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on March 08, 2007, 07:29:55 PM
if it was youre country why didn't you keep it? obviously the people that took it from you wanted it more. and everyone wants to be indian or part indian these days? why? is it some special club or something? its alot like when i was in the mental hospital and we all had group in the mornings, people would get so exited about what medications they were on, like they were fucking having church about it. thats nothing to be exited about believe me!

Because you white fuckers fought with guns -- big difference.

My aboriginal ancestors from Scotland scared the living daylights out of the invading Romans -- hence the advent of Adrian's Wall. Native folk kick ass.
then why are they always native?
and why are they always told to live on the most ungodly piece of land?
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: richard on March 08, 2007, 07:36:21 PM
why the hell was this thread resurected peaguy? fucking faggot
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: McGiver on March 08, 2007, 08:12:23 PM
why the hell was this thread resurected peaguy? fucking faggot
so i could wonder what happened to beowolf.
Title: Re: Question about taxes.
Post by: duncvis on March 09, 2007, 04:00:22 AM
why the hell was this thread resurected peaguy? fucking faggot
so i could wonder what happened to beowolf.

Probably fucked off in solidarity with Emoga Shemale. :moon: