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Arena for the Competitive => Main Event Callouts => Topic started by: benjimanbreeg on June 25, 2016, 05:18:01 PM

Title: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 25, 2016, 05:18:01 PM
Please remove yourself from the "Labour" party, the British working class have spoken clearly and do not want intolerant people like you in the party.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Adam on June 25, 2016, 05:33:14 PM
i really don't have time for this, so argue with yourself, mate! :)
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 25, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
i really don't have time for this, so argue with yourself, mate! :)

If you didn't have time for it, you wouldn't have come online and stated your puppet shit. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on June 25, 2016, 06:14:59 PM
Please don't do this Benji.

I was growing to like you.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 25, 2016, 06:30:18 PM
I don't care about being liked or the 'economy'.  My country and the truth are far more important.  You cannot just keep laughing off people's views as "racist" and "homophobic" etc.  When will you learn?  Deal with the route causes.  A massive majority agreed with enoch Powell in 1968, and Powell has been proved right with everything he said about the EU and I feel so happy that a true genius and real nationalist like him has been finally vindicated.  Listen to Jeremy Corbyn, who I stuck up for on the radio, he is a man who respects the result and the will of the people.  Your reaction is embarrassing. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on June 25, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
I don't care about being liked or the 'economy'.  My country and the truth are far more important.  You cannot just keep laughing off people's views as "racist" and "homophobic" etc.  When will you learn?  Deal with the route causes.  A massive majority agreed with enoch Powell in 1968, and Powell has been proved right with everything he said about the EU and I feel so happy that a true genius and real nationalist like him has been finally vindicated.  Listen to Jeremy Corbyn, who I stuck up for on the radio, he is a man who respects the result and the will of the people.  Your reaction is embarrassing.

Dunno if you're speaking to me or Adam?

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I don't care about being liked or the 'economy'.

You don't care about the economy. Spoken like a true Brexiteer. Pass the sickbag :thumbdn:


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and Powell has been proved right with everything he said about the EU and I feel so happy that a true genius and real nationalist like him has been finally vindicated.

I knew this would happen. I knew a vote for Brexit would empower the true racists. If your attitude is representative of the average Brexiteer, then The UK is even more fucked than I imagined.
England seems to have became a truly hateful place. I'm sick :'(
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: renaeden on June 26, 2016, 02:57:00 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on June 26, 2016, 03:36:45 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

If that means what it looks like it might mean, then :o
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'andersom' on June 26, 2016, 06:46:38 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Good question.  :plus:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: odeon on June 26, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
Was wondering about that.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: MLA on June 27, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 27, 2016, 04:24:03 PM
Cause 'Adam' could change their name again tomorrow.  I can't take them seriously.  They are very out of touch with the real world and their voters.  I will get back to the EU thread when I get time, but if 'Adam' had any decency they would be standing for Jeremy Corbyn who is being bullied out of office by the corporate puppets who are spitting in the face of democracy.  This is sheer totalitarianism and the brainwashed people crowing on their behalf on this forum need to wake up.  We have alleged socialists saying we should stay in the EU because of money!!!   :facepalm2:   What backward out of touch simpletons like Odeon don't understand is that we were tricked into the EU from the start and the older generation have finally found justice.  We have millionaire's children wimpering about not being able to travel around and work in another country, but back on planet earth and in the heart of the UK, where the actual working class are, they are working hard and looking out for the communities they live in and the country in general. 

Surely any decent human being can see the poison that has been released from this, and I include the sick cunts who are bullying immigrants.  People need to stop blaming each other and side against the corporate machine that has done this to us.  The main poison though has come from the ignorant, arrogant and truly brainwashed imbeciles that cannot accept a democratic result when it doesn't go their way. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 27, 2016, 04:34:09 PM
I don't care about being liked or the 'economy'.  My country and the truth are far more important.  You cannot just keep laughing off people's views as "racist" and "homophobic" etc.  When will you learn?  Deal with the route causes.  A massive majority agreed with enoch Powell in 1968, and Powell has been proved right with everything he said about the EU and I feel so happy that a true genius and real nationalist like him has been finally vindicated.  Listen to Jeremy Corbyn, who I stuck up for on the radio, he is a man who respects the result and the will of the people.  Your reaction is embarrassing.

Dunno if you're speaking to me or Adam?

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I don't care about being liked or the 'economy'.

You don't care about the economy. Spoken like a true Brexiteer. Pass the sickbag :thumbdn:


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and Powell has been proved right with everything he said about the EU and I feel so happy that a true genius and real nationalist like him has been finally vindicated.

I knew this would happen. I knew a vote for Brexit would empower the true racists. If your attitude is representative of the average Brexiteer, then The UK is even more fucked than I imagined.
England seems to have became a truly hateful place. I'm sick :'(

We are £1.5 trillion in debt, hemorrhaging constantly and your hero George Osbourne misses his borrowing targets by billions while your beloved media tells us what a wonderful job he's doing.  You have no idea what you're talking about, Powell was a nationalist, even Tony Benn said this after he'd accused him of being a Nazi more or less after Powell's 1968 speech.  Putting that aside, they both along with Michael Foot all supported us not joining the EU as they saw what it was.  Dennis Skinner and George Galloway were campaigning and in favor of leaving the EU for gawd's sake, are they are pair of immigrant hating racists?  The media has tricked you.  Most of the hate has come from the side that lost the referendum. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on June 27, 2016, 05:01:39 PM
My hero George Osbourne? I hate the Tories :zombiefuck:

No, I don't think the hard left like Galloway and Skinner are immigrant hating racists. I think they are the most deluded of all the Brexiteers though. They've helped the most far right people in the Tories seize power, and assured that the rebuilding of Britain will be left to those far right Tories :thumbdn:
I do appreciate that they were acting according to their principles, but they've just helped screw the people they claim to care about.

I was a fan of Corbyn, and to an extent, I still am. I think he should step aside though. I think it's more important that we have a Labour party capable of challenging for power, even if it is ran by a centrist Blairite, than have a strong leftie in charge with no chance of winning power.
The Labour party needs to split. Lefties and centrists need to go their separate ways. Sadly that seems impossible in our horrid first past the post system though.

Do you really think it's the children of millionaires who are unable to travel around Europe? I can assure you it's not. With money, you can travel anywhere you want. It's people like you who will now struggle to travel around Europe, or to live in Europe, and I think that's a shame.

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The main poison though has come from the ignorant, arrogant and truly brainwashed imbeciles that cannot accept a democratic result when it doesn't go their way.

Did you not complain about people tarring all Brexiteers with the same brush?

Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: MLA on June 28, 2016, 09:52:07 AM
There is only one Adam dipshit.  Don't they teach you the difference between singular and plural pronouns in that backwater regressive country you seem so proud of?
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Queen Victoria on June 28, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
I took it to mean Adam transitioning.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: odeon on June 28, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
Either way, Benji is an idiot.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 28, 2016, 05:01:08 PM
My hero George Osbourne? I hate the Tories :zombiefuck:

No, I don't think the hard left like Galloway and Skinner are immigrant hating racists. I think they are the most deluded of all the Brexiteers though. They've helped the most far right people in the Tories seize power, and assured that the rebuilding of Britain will be left to those far right Tories :thumbdn:
I do appreciate that they were acting according to their principles, but they've just helped screw the people they claim to care about.

I was a fan of Corbyn, and to an extent, I still am. I think he should step aside though. I think it's more important that we have a Labour party capable of challenging for power, even if it is ran by a centrist Blairite, than have a strong leftie in charge with no chance of winning power.
The Labour party needs to split. Lefties and centrists need to go their separate ways. Sadly that seems impossible in our horrid first past the post system though.

Do you really think it's the children of millionaires who are unable to travel around Europe? I can assure you it's not. With money, you can travel anywhere you want. It's people like you who will now struggle to travel around Europe, or to live in Europe, and I think that's a shame.

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The main poison though has come from the ignorant, arrogant and truly brainwashed imbeciles that cannot accept a democratic result when it doesn't go their way.

Did you not complain about people tarring all Brexiteers with the same brush?

Your stance on the EU is identical to Cameron's and Osbourne's.  No they have not, they have helped the majority finally get their voice heard.  I don't think you understand what you mean when you say "far right".  Like anyone with any nationalist sense is "far right", unless they're Scottish though!  Also, you are ignoring that Labour could reach out to the people if Corbyn stays in, as we don't like seeing people get bullied and Corbyn is sticking to his guns. 

You are just copying exactly what the media are saying.  It doesn't matter in the slightest what the corrupt media and MP's think when the Labour members support Corbyn and he also has the support from big unions.  Fuck those corporate puppets who think they will get their jobs back if they force Corbyn out.  Hilary Benn is a fucking parasite and a stain on his father's legacy.  I noticed he waited until his dad passed away before he showed his true colors.  You don't seem to care about justice and what's right, rather just what the media tells you to want and what the corporate poison wants.  So it's all about winning and having another mass murderer in charge rather than the tories winning when Cameron is/was the self proclaimed "heir to Blair" anyway?  Talk about defeatist and almost begging for corruption to win. 

I can assure you that living or working in Europe is way down on the list of people in the real world.  People still will be able to work or live in other parts of Europe, it just wouldn't be as easy and that's a good thing. 

Where did I say that all people who voted to stay in were the same?  I'm talking about a particular section.  I've heard a lot of leave voters say they are disappointed but that we need to move on. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 28, 2016, 05:02:30 PM
I took it to mean Adam transitioning.

He's too thick to think outside the box. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Genesis on June 28, 2016, 06:46:15 PM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.

Um.... I thought he had his own flat. Or was that a lie?
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: MLA on June 29, 2016, 11:19:33 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.

Um.... I thought he had his own flat. Or was that a lie?

I dunno.  I'm not Facebook friends with him or anything  :hahaha:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on June 29, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Sorry, I haven't got round to responding to your request. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: renaeden on June 29, 2016, 08:19:42 PM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.

Um.... I thought he had his own flat. Or was that a lie?

I dunno.  I'm not Facebook friends with him or anything  :hahaha:
I am. Adam rents a place with a friend of his. He's doing really well for himself.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 29, 2016, 09:23:25 PM
I thought they were talking about Benji.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: renaeden on June 29, 2016, 09:41:15 PM
Ah, ok. Well we know how Adam is doing now, anyhow!
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 29, 2016, 09:41:45 PM
 :lol1:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: MLA on June 30, 2016, 09:46:27 AM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.

Um.... I thought he had his own flat. Or was that a lie?

I dunno.  I'm not Facebook friends with him or anything  :hahaha:
I am. Adam rents a place with a friend of his. He's doing really well for himself.

I am friends with Adam on FB :)
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: odeon on June 30, 2016, 03:49:55 PM
Why do you write Adam with quotation marks?

Because he's an insecure basement-dweller and it drives him nuts to see someone else find his way.

Um.... I thought he had his own flat. Or was that a lie?

I dunno.  I'm not Facebook friends with him or anything  :hahaha:
I am. Adam rents a place with a friend of his. He's doing really well for himself.

I am friends with Adam on FB :)

Me too. :)

I'm really glad he is doing so well.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'andersom' on July 01, 2016, 01:19:31 AM
I'm an Adam fangirl.  :zoinks: :hyke:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: renaeden on July 01, 2016, 01:40:05 AM
^Same here!
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'andersom' on July 01, 2016, 01:45:26 AM
 :laugh:

We should totally hang out together and get some posters of Adam for on our bedroom walls.    :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: renaeden on July 01, 2016, 01:51:06 AM
 :lol1:
Totally should, he's soooo handsome!
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 01, 2016, 04:19:11 AM
:lol1:
Totally should, he's soooo handsome!

  He's also funny and he loves pizza!  :pizza:  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 01, 2016, 05:21:48 AM
Not an Adam fan. I have no beef. I find him boring and self-absorbed. Mind you he is Autistic and that is not so unusual. The same could be said of me. I am just completely indifferent to this Adam cult.  :viking:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'andersom' on July 01, 2016, 05:48:17 AM
Not an Adam fan. I have no beef. I find him boring and self-absorbed. Mind you he is Autistic and that is not so unusual. The same could be said of me. I am just completely indifferent to this Adam cult.  :viking:

I'll hang a picture of you on another wall in my bedroom. Then the two of you can stare at each other.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 01, 2016, 06:18:03 AM
Not an Adam fan. I have no beef. I find him boring and self-absorbed. Mind you he is Autistic and that is not so unusual. The same could be said of me. I am just completely indifferent to this Adam cult.  :viking:

I'll hang a picture of you on another wall in my bedroom. Then the two of you can stare at each other.  :zoinks:

 ;)
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 08:52:11 AM
Adam became a man synthetically through sex steroids.

What I don't understand is, why the stigma for athletes and fitness models? We know they're as synthetic as trans are.

 :junkie:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'andersom' on July 01, 2016, 09:30:28 AM
The  other Adam was made from dirt. After that there was a divine blowing of the nose.

A man called Adam is a miracle by default.  :M
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: MLA on July 01, 2016, 09:49:58 AM
Adam became a man synthetically through sex steroids.

What I don't understand is, why the stigma for athletes and fitness models? We know they're as synthetic as trans are.

 :junkie:

Per usual you attempt to be offensive for little or no reason, and per usual I can't decide whether or not to be offended.  I do consider Adam a friend, and don't consider him to be either "synthetic" or a junkie.  I guess maybe I would be offended if you were in any way real and not just trying for a reaction.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Actually, no. It was an observation on society's stance on sex steroids.

The contaceptive pill is acceptable, although it has grave consequences for a sexually active woman's health.

For trangenders to transition properly to their desired gender, you need surgery and the preferable sex steroid treatment. It's not done naturally.

I don't really care about synthetics, as it's their right to inject testosterone or oestrogeon in their bodies. My concern is the stigma when used in sports and aesthetic bodybuilding.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 10:05:49 AM
HOW ELSE DID I BECOME A GOPHER? HUH?  :hitler:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 01, 2016, 10:10:32 AM
Actually, no. It was an observation on society's stance on sex steroids.

The contaceptive pill is acceptable, although it has grave consequences for a sexually active woman's health.

For trangenders to transition properly to their desired gender, you need surgery and the preferable sex steroid treatment. It's not done naturally.

I don't really care about synthetics, as it's their right to inject testosterone or oestrogeon in their bodies. My concern is the stigma when used in sports and aesthetic bodybuilding.

Because it's cheating.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
I'm sorry to burst your fairy tale bubble that your heroes are FULL NATTY BRAHS, but a lot of professionals are on the gas. Why? Money. Their contractors want winners, not honest athletes.

Arnold was on steroids, incidentally.

And, by your logic, trans are cheaters for denying nature.

Again, it's an observation on the societal hypocrisy of sex steroid use. Don't shoot the informed gopher.
 :junkie:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 01, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
I'm sorry to burst your fairy tale bubble that your heroes are FULL NATTY BRAHS, but a lot of professionals are on the gas. Why? Money. Their contractors want winners, not honest athletes.

Arnold was on steroids, incidentally.

And, by your logic, trans are cheaters for denying nature.

Again, it's an observation on the societal hypocrisy of sex steroid use. Don't shoot the informed gopher.
 :junkie:

I don't have heroes :P

Yes, a lot of sports people do use illegal drugs, whilst lots of others try to push the boundaries of what's legal by using drugs that aren't quite illegal. That doesn't mean it should be allowed. If you start allowing athletes to use drugs, then pretty soon, the only way to win at these sports will be to use drugs. Unless you want to be a person who uses drugs, there would be no point in participating in that sport. Who wants to participate in a sport where the only way to win is by taking drugs that will likely kill you early, and will shrink their dick :laugh:

Arnie was a bodybuilder :laugh: I couldn't care less about what they do. I imagine a huge amount of them are on drugs. Horrid sport, if you could call it a sport.

I dunno if trans people are cheating nature by taking drugs, or if they might feel that nature's cheating them by putting them in the wrong body. It's not the point though. They aren't cheating anybody else. I'm a believer that an adult should be allowed to put whatever substance into their body that they want. If somebody wants to pump themselves full of drugs so that they can run faster than anybody else, then I'm cool with that. They just shouldn't be allowed to compete against non drug users.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 11:24:59 AM

I don't have heroes :P

You're your own hero. Good for you!

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Yes, a lot of sports people do use illegal drugs, whilst lots of others try to push the boundaries of what's legal by using drugs that aren't quite illegal. That doesn't mean it should be allowed. If you start allowing athletes to use drugs, then pretty soon, the only way to win at these sports will be to use drugs. Unless you want to be a person who uses drugs, there would be no point in participating in that sport. Who wants to participate in a sport where the only way to win is by taking drugs that will likely kill you early, and will shrink their dick :laugh:

Millions use steroids as money is involved in sports and aesthetics. It won't go away.

See, people want to see hollywood athletes like Usain Bolt on the tv. The film industry is also no stranger to steroid use: Hollywood actors like Christian Bale have used steroids to bulk up muscle in a number of months for AESTHETICS. It takes years to build muscle as a man - and you will only get a fraction of what drug users can get with the same training. Steroids also aid in muscle recovery.

My serious concern is the poor young boys who suffer from body issues because they don't look like he man and shit to get pussy. They look to bodybuilders who lie to their faces about being natty so they can sell their exercise programs and supplements.

If people want to know a bit more about the steroid culture, check out the likes of Durianrider and Vegan Gains on j00toobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAI17YTGSpE

PS: They strink the testicles, but not the penis itself. In fact, it increases its size.
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I dunno if trans people are cheating nature by taking drugs, or if they might feel that nature's cheating them by putting them in the wrong body. It's not the point though. They aren't cheating anybody else. I'm a believer that an adult should be allowed to put whatever substance into their body that they want. If somebody wants to pump themselves full of drugs so that they can run faster than anybody else, then I'm cool with that. They just shouldn't be allowed to compete against non drug users.

I'm merely pointing out that many people are synthetics in various ways, not looking to upset anybody here on this topic. So live and let live!
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Jack on July 01, 2016, 02:36:23 PM
Per usual you attempt to be offensive for little or no reason,
That's not me. Actually usually have no intent of any offense at all. Odd to be perceived as such.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 03:15:13 PM
Odd that my posts were intepreted to be confrontational when I wanted to change the subject somewhat about sex steroids.

Again, I do not care how you attain gender, athleticism and aesthetics synthetically. If the idea of trans is acceptable and not a mental illness, so too should steroid athletes be considered as the norm as there are millions of them around the globe getting paid to be "naturals".

 :poo:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on July 01, 2016, 04:05:19 PM
Odd that my posts were intepreted to be confrontational when I wanted to change the subject somewhat about sex steroids.

Again, I do not care how you attain gender, athleticism and aesthetics synthetically. If the idea of trans is acceptable and not a mental illness, so too should steroid athletes be considered as the norm as there are millions of them around the globe getting paid to be "naturals".

 :poo:

There isn't propaganda in movies and TV shows to force people to like steroid athletes  :orly:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Odd that my posts were intepreted to be confrontational when I wanted to change the subject somewhat about sex steroids.

Again, I do not care how you attain gender, athleticism and aesthetics synthetically. If the idea of trans is acceptable and not a mental illness, so too should steroid athletes be considered as the norm as there are millions of them around the globe getting paid to be "naturals".

 :poo:

There isn't propaganda in movies and TV shows to force people to like steroid athletes  :orly:

No, because it's all kept hush hush.

Sylvester Stallone, for example, starred in Rocky IV as Rocky Balboa, who fought his Russian boxing opponent (Dolph Lundgren) who's on the gas, as a natty boxer. Obviously, Dolph's on the juice, but Sly is ironically on fucking steroids during that film.

The point is, there are millions of synthetically enhanced humans around the world, not just trans. The athletes, bodybuilders and fitness models bullshit that they're natty because they would have lost money.

Not saying you have to take these trans people seriously (if you think Adam's a freako, it's your right), just that there are others out there like bodybuilders. I have more issue with these "fit" people because they deliberately fuck up people's conceptions of fit, healthy, natural bodies because they desperately want to have friends, girlfriends or whatevs, so they buy their exercise programs and supplements without knowing they are charlatans.

If people accepted ALL steroid users, we wouldn't have this favouritism wankfest.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on July 01, 2016, 05:02:15 PM
I don't really care what 'adam' does.  They might change back in a few years, it's happened before.  Though I'm not ruling out the possibility that trans people are actually what they claim, I just won't be forced into believing something or made out to be some kind of devil for thinking differently. 

I just find it so retarded that the party in the UK who are meant to represent the British working class are so hell bent on giving out token jobs to "minorities" while they spit in the faces of their own voters. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 05:15:32 PM
Agree on both points.

Labour has failed its voters.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 01, 2016, 05:33:27 PM
Actually, no. It was an observation on society's stance on sex steroids.

The contaceptive pill is acceptable, although it has grave consequences for a sexually active woman's health.

For trangenders to transition properly to their desired gender, you need surgery and the preferable sex steroid treatment. It's not done naturally.

I don't really care about synthetics, as it's their right to inject testosterone or oestrogeon in their bodies. My concern is the stigma when used in sports and aesthetic bodybuilding.

Because it's cheating.

Interested on your view of Fallon Fox and why you think what you do
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on July 01, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
Agree on both points.

Labour has failed its voters.

 :viking:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 01, 2016, 05:50:42 PM
Actually, no. It was an observation on society's stance on sex steroids.

The contaceptive pill is acceptable, although it has grave consequences for a sexually active woman's health.

For trangenders to transition properly to their desired gender, you need surgery and the preferable sex steroid treatment. It's not done naturally.

I don't really care about synthetics, as it's their right to inject testosterone or oestrogeon in their bodies. My concern is the stigma when used in sports and aesthetic bodybuilding.

Because it's cheating.

Interested on your view of Fallon Fox and why you think what you do

MMA synthetic on oestrogen and testosterone.

Of course, if he/she knows her steroid cycles, he/she'd be all right, I guess. Lethal in high doses though.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 02, 2016, 07:31:31 AM
Actually, no. It was an observation on society's stance on sex steroids.

The contaceptive pill is acceptable, although it has grave consequences for a sexually active woman's health.

For trangenders to transition properly to their desired gender, you need surgery and the preferable sex steroid treatment. It's not done naturally.

I don't really care about synthetics, as it's their right to inject testosterone or oestrogeon in their bodies. My concern is the stigma when used in sports and aesthetic bodybuilding.

Because it's cheating.

Interested on your view of Fallon Fox and why you think what you do

Had never heard of Fallon Fox before now, and I'm not interested in MMA, but yes, it's a tricky one.

Naturally I'm 100% in favour of her transitioning to being a woman, if that's what she wants to do. Should she then be allowed to compete in womens sport, particularly a sport as physical as MMA, when she has all the advantages of having grown up as a male? Very possibly not.

Transgenderism in sport is an issue that has never been solved. There's been at least one famous female golfer, and tennis player, who were transgender. In both those cases, the players weren't quite good enough for it to be a major issue.
I would expect it to become an issue if a trans sportswoman comes along, who is good enough to dominate in her chosen sport.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 02, 2016, 08:25:24 AM
Fallon HAS been beaten before BUT on the flip side she has seriously hurt some of the women too. For women to beat her essentially they need to be both VERY bloody good and fight a very tight close quarters game. She hits bloody hard and going toe to toe is a bad idea.

I have mixed views on Transgenderism. Essentially I like to think that, like say (bad example) religious beliefs, there ought to be an amount of leaving things to the individual and so long as the beliefs are not stuffed down anyone's throats then why be discriminated against? Same with transgendered people. If someone wants to transition, so what? It does not hurt me in any way, nor society, so why should I object. The person wants to be called by a different name and a different gender. Unless I dislike the person for whatever reason, I will accommodate this. All pretty easy.

But this is all the simple stuff. At what age should kids be "allowed to transition and how and when ought they be encouraged to transition? At what age should hormones be given? Are we to accept that everyone wishing to transition is actually a transgendered person? Is there one cause? If there is not one cause then may it make sense to treat some people with as though it is a transitional phase and perhaps caused through chemical imbalances? Do we need to look at the causes of suicide and the like before we start pumping hormones and/or making rather drastic and permanent lifechanging surgeries, and to what degree? Who makes these calls and based on what?

All of these kinds of things DO make me a little uncomfortable. Not because I find the subject matter confronting but because I have no idea. I simply have no clue, and many people seem to have strong opinions one way or another but no definitive  answers seem forth coming. So I gravitate to the easier questions that I can give definitive opinions on.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 02, 2016, 09:12:43 AM
Fallon HAS been beaten before BUT on the flip side she has seriously hurt some of the women too. For women to beat her essentially they need to be both VERY bloody good and fight a very tight close quarters game. She hits bloody hard and going toe to toe is a bad idea.

I have mixed views on Transgenderism. Essentially I like to think that, like say (bad example) religious beliefs, there ought to be an amount of leaving things to the individual and so long as the beliefs are not stuffed down anyone's throats then why be discriminated against? Same with transgendered people. If someone wants to transition, so what? It does not hurt me in any way, nor society, so why should I object. The person wants to be called by a different name and a different gender. Unless I dislike the person for whatever reason, I will accommodate this. All pretty easy.

But this is all the simple stuff. At what age should kids be "allowed to transition and how and when ought they be encouraged to transition? At what age should hormones be given? Are we to accept that everyone wishing to transition is actually a transgendered person? Is there one cause? If there is not one cause then may it make sense to treat some people with as though it is a transitional phase and perhaps caused through chemical imbalances? Do we need to look at the causes of suicide and the like before we start pumping hormones and/or making rather drastic and permanent lifechanging surgeries, and to what degree? Who makes these calls and based on what?

All of these kinds of things DO make me a little uncomfortable. Not because I find the subject matter confronting but because I have no idea. I simply have no clue, and many people seem to have strong opinions one way or another but no definitive  answers seem forth coming. So I gravitate to the easier questions that I can give definitive opinions on.

I have to admit to never having really given transgenderism a second thought until I came onto this site.

The truth is, whilst I fully respect and support everybody's right to transition, and I think it's a good thing for people who don't associate with their birth gender to transition.  It's a subject that I don't have much understanding of.
I'm guessing that it's not enough to simply not identify as your birth gender. I kinda assume that people who are transgender must have a strong sense of gender identity, as well as obviously not identifying with their birth gender.

Personally, I don't feel any particular sense of gender identity. If I suddenly woke up as a male, how would I react :laugh: Would I want to transition into a female?
Realistically, if I woke up as a guy, I would spend my first days masturbating incessantly, and using my new-fangled cock to draw cool piss pictures on the ground :laugh: Being able to aim ones pee must be cool :green:
After my first few days, I would just get on with my life as a heterosexual man :laugh:
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 05, 2016, 03:23:30 PM

No, I don't think the hard left like Galloway and Skinner are immigrant hating racists. I think they are the most deluded of all the Brexiteers though.

Galloway was pro-Brexit?? I find that surprising.

I'm amazed that shitstain is still alive and in government.

I loved the debate between him and Christopher Hitchens where Hitchens absolutely destroyed him.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 05, 2016, 04:59:44 PM

No, I don't think the hard left like Galloway and Skinner are immigrant hating racists. I think they are the most deluded of all the Brexiteers though.

Galloway was pro-Brexit?? I find that surprising.

I'm amazed that shitstain is still alive and in government.

I loved the debate between him and Christopher Hitchens where Hitchens absolutely destroyed him.

He was pro-Brexit, but he's not in government. I don't think he's even an MP these days. He's the leader Respect, a tiny fringe party.
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: benjimanbreeg on August 07, 2016, 09:46:08 AM

No, I don't think the hard left like Galloway and Skinner are immigrant hating racists. I think they are the most deluded of all the Brexiteers though.

Galloway was pro-Brexit?? I find that surprising.

I'm amazed that shitstain is still alive and in government.

I loved the debate between him and Christopher Hitchens where Hitchens absolutely destroyed him.

Yes he was/is.  He's against the government.  He's not an MP.  You mean you agreed with Hitchens?  Hitchens has been proven completely wrong. 
Title: Re: 'adam'
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 07, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
You mean you agreed with Hitchens?  Hitchens has been proven completely wrong.

How so??