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Title: Writing in cursive
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 06, 2017, 06:00:33 AM
  So, about 10 years ago, I started noticing that the younger workers at my job weren't using cursive
  to write their names on their timecards.  I've heard since then that cursive isn't being taught as rigorously
  to the current youngsters as it was to my generation and those before me.  My own handwriting deviates
  in small ways from "proper" cursive, usually in that I sometimes use lettering for capital letters at the
  beginning of a word, but on the whole it's kind of pretty and quite legible, though my boss once said
  she can't read it because it's "too curly."  (She's my age but letters instead of using cursive except for
  her signature.)  So I'm wondering, who here uses cursive regularly?  How much penmanship instruction
  did you get in school?  (I had penmanship lessons from grades 1-6, or roughly age 6-11.)  :chores:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Jack on January 06, 2017, 06:19:42 AM
Only recall one year of cursive in elementary school, but it's possible there was more and don't remember.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Icequeen on January 06, 2017, 07:03:49 AM
The only time I use cursive anymore for is when I sign my name on something.

Otherwise I type or print it...I even have type written school excuses in a fill-in-the-blank format for the kid.

I had beautiful cursive handwriting, now depending on the weather and how well my hands work it can vary from pretty to chicken scratch. My printing is much more legible and easier to read even for myself now.

When you write out a grocery list in cursive, get to the store and can't figure out wtf you wrote...you need to print.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Fun With Matches on January 06, 2017, 11:36:19 AM
Joined-up handwriting, you mean?
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Icequeen on January 06, 2017, 02:25:53 PM
Joined-up handwriting, you mean?

Yep.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Fun With Matches on January 06, 2017, 02:44:48 PM
Ah. I've always used joined-up handwriting, since we were taught it during one lesson when I was 10 years old. I found it far easier than continually taking the pen off the page. It looks prettier too.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Fun With Matches on January 06, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
My handwriting is spikey too.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: odeon on January 06, 2017, 04:40:54 PM
  So, about 10 years ago, I started noticing that the younger workers at my job weren't using cursive
  to write their names on their timecards.  I've heard since then that cursive isn't being taught as rigorously
  to the current youngsters as it was to my generation and those before me.  My own handwriting deviates
  in small ways from "proper" cursive, usually in that I sometimes use lettering for capital letters at the
  beginning of a word, but on the whole it's kind of pretty and quite legible, though my boss once said
  she can't read it because it's "too curly."  (She's my age but letters instead of using cursive except for
  her signature.)  So I'm wondering, who here uses cursive regularly?  How much penmanship instruction
  did you get in school?  (I had penmanship lessons from grades 1-6, or roughly age 6-11.)  :chores:


I used to do it but nobody can read it anymore.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Jack on January 06, 2017, 04:53:57 PM
My handwriting is spikey too.
Mine too, at least the cursive. Use cursive when writing for other people to read; it's tall, pointy, and compact. Have been told it's nice. When writing for myself, it's a scrawled mixture of print and cursive with no consistency, except for being sloppy and tilted up to the right with complete disregard for being horizontal, often illegible sometimes even to me.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 06, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
For lists, I letter my words (My FIL was a graphic artist and insisted that people "letter", machines "print.")

For just about everything else I use cursive script.

As an oddity, for umpteen years I use all lower-case letters for my (three) initials.  It flows better.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 06, 2017, 07:31:58 PM
I just print, but I don't pick up the pen as much as I should so some letter combinations look like print trying a little bit to be cursive. It's neat, but sort of round and girly looking.  :orly:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 06, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
I use cursive if I want my writing to look nice but mostly I print because it is faster.

I may post a pic later of an example of my writing.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 13, 2017, 12:40:30 AM
Here are some networking notes I took at college:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/renaeden/a0233a9d-019d-4cb2-90f5-4991fbce7915_zpst8ihodzk.jpg)
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 13, 2017, 05:30:20 AM
  Your lettering is very neat.  I wouldn't have the patience for that, that's why I use cursive.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 13, 2017, 07:24:50 AM
I am kind of surprised it is still neat after 5 years of uni, heh.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Parts on January 13, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
Cursive has always been a headache for me both writing and reading it.  In elementary school my writing was so bad it was part of the special ed services I received along with the help for dyslexia. They even tried to teach me to type in the third or fourth grade 
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Icequeen on January 13, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
I am kind of surprised it is still neat after 5 years of uni, heh.

Very pretty Ren, and easy to read. 8)
I print in mostly caps, my dad did too.  :LOL:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 13, 2017, 09:08:22 PM
I started to use SPEEDWRITING in college.  Basically you omit vowels (except for initial ones), underline the last letter of the word for an "ing" ending and overline the last letter of the word for an "ed" ending.  Use a dot in the middle of the line for "the".  I've forgotten the rest of the language, but it was a 3(?) volume set.  I only got past the first 2 or 3 lessons.

Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 14, 2017, 01:27:03 AM
I started to use SPEEDWRITING in college.  Basically you omit vowels (except for initial ones), underline the last letter of the word for an "ing" ending and overline the last letter of the word for an "ed" ending.  Use a dot in the middle of the line for "the".  I've forgotten the rest of the language, but it was a 3(?) volume set.  I only got past the first 2 or 3 lessons.
I think it would take me ages to learn a system like that.

Here is a sample of my cursive:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/renaeden/bb24ab9e-fc3f-4ca0-89db-a72409252c61_zpsnhi60rcc.jpg)
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 14, 2017, 06:17:02 PM
I started to use SPEEDWRITING in college.  Basically you omit vowels (except for initial ones), underline the last letter of the word for an "ing" ending and overline the last letter of the word for an "ed" ending.  Use a dot in the middle of the line for "the".  I've forgotten the rest of the language, but it was a 3(?) volume set.  I only got past the first 2 or 3 lessons.
I think it would take me ages to learn a system like that.

Here is a sample of my cursive:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/renaeden/bb24ab9e-fc3f-4ca0-89db-a72409252c61_zpsnhi60rcc.jpg)

  Very legible.  Is lettering easier for you?  :chores:
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 14, 2017, 07:24:16 PM
I started to use SPEEDWRITING in college.  Basically you omit vowels (except for initial ones), underline the last letter of the word for an "ing" ending and overline the last letter of the word for an "ed" ending.  Use a dot in the middle of the line for "the".  I've forgotten the rest of the language, but it was a 3(?) volume set.  I only got past the first 2 or 3 lessons.
I think it would take me ages to learn a system like that.

Here is a sample of my cursive:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/renaeden/bb24ab9e-fc3f-4ca0-89db-a72409252c61_zpsnhi60rcc.jpg)

From reading your script, I realize that hard vowels are also written.

From Wikipedia: (this would have been the version I tried to use)

The second version of Speedwriting, designed by Alexander L. Sheff (July 21, 1898 – June 27, 1978) in the early 1950s, introduced some symbols that could not be produced on a typewriter such as arcs representing the letters 'm' and 'w'. This version modified a few of the abbreviating principles also. Changes implemented in the Sheff version include the following:[13]

vowels are included rather than omitted slightly more often; "cheap" is written as cep instead of cp
the word "the" is indicated by a dot rather than the letter t
period at the end of the sentence is written as a large diagonal stroke \ rather than a dot
past tense of a regular verb is indicated by a short horizontal stroke above the final letter of the root-word
the -ing suffix is indicated by a short horizontal mark under the last letter of the outline rather than the letter g
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 14, 2017, 08:49:55 PM
Yes, all vowels are written.
Lettering? Do you mean printing? Yes it is but it is nice to write in cursive sometimes. Something different.

Now I would like to see others' samples.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 15, 2017, 12:29:00 PM
Yes, all vowels are written.
Lettering? Do you mean printing? Yes it is but it is nice to write in cursive sometimes. Something different.

Now I would like to see others' samples.

My late FIL (commercial artist) said that machines printed, people lettered.  Compare monks lettering books and manuscripts.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
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Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Jack on January 15, 2017, 07:49:31 PM
Why is that posted here?
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 15, 2017, 10:30:50 PM
Yes, all vowels are written.
Lettering? Do you mean printing? Yes it is but it is nice to write in cursive sometimes. Something different.

Now I would like to see others' samples.

My late FIL (commercial artist) said that machines printed, people lettered.  Compare monks lettering books and manuscripts.
Lettering it is then. Yes, lettering is easier than cursive. I am not sure if that is because I'm left-handed. I remember in school when I wrote cursive for the first time with a pen, I smudged it. Calligraphy has always been a no-go for me.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Pyraxis on January 15, 2017, 10:53:05 PM
I would have been interested to learn speedwriting back when I had to take a lot of notes for school.

I learned cursive but I never liked it. Always used to argue with the teachers that said I'd need it when I was an adult. Still haven't. :P

Last week I saw a shirt being displayed in a storefront that had a cursive word embroidered on the front of it. It was really badly done. I couldn't tell what it said. It seemed to read "hourg". My best guess was it was supposed to be "young".
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 15, 2017, 11:07:46 PM
Hourg. That's hilarious!
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 16, 2017, 12:40:42 AM
Lettering it is then. Yes, lettering is easier than cursive. I am not sure if that is because I'm left-handed. I remember in school when I wrote cursive for the first time with a pen, I smudged it. Calligraphy has always been a no-go for me.

I hade problems with cursive too because I'm left handed.

The worst problem I had was with my 7th grade history class where my teacher demanded that we did everything in ink.

Because you'd make the occasional mistake, many people (including me) used those erasable ink pens that they had in the early/mid 80's. That ink would smear all over the place when used by a lefty. All my homework was a big smudge and my left outer palm was always blue.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: renaeden on January 16, 2017, 12:58:08 AM
^Oh that brings back memories.

When using pencil, the edge of my palm would end up a dark silver.

Those erasable pens were good when I was at uni but they just didn't last very long with the amount of notes I took.
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Icequeen on February 04, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
I would have been interested to learn speedwriting back when I had to take a lot of notes for school.

I learned cursive but I never liked it. Always used to argue with the teachers that said I'd need it when I was an adult. Still haven't. :P

Last week I saw a shirt being displayed in a storefront that had a cursive word embroidered on the front of it. It was really badly done. I couldn't tell what it said. It seemed to read "hourg". My best guess was it was supposed to be "young".

Proper font choice is crucial.

(http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/78/74/7648cfaaa5996e82ea22b2d75f60dc84-poor-font-choice-for-the-word-aunt.jpg)
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: Icequeen on February 04, 2017, 10:29:06 AM
(http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/gen_font-choice-4.jpg)

(http://thefw.com/files/2013/09/W97U4.jpg)
Title: Re: Writing in cursive
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 05, 2017, 05:39:55 AM
I would have been interested to learn speedwriting back when I had to take a lot of notes for school.

I learned cursive but I never liked it. Always used to argue with the teachers that said I'd need it when I was an adult. Still haven't. :P

Last week I saw a shirt being displayed in a storefront that had a cursive word embroidered on the front of it. It was really badly done. I couldn't tell what it said. It seemed to read "hourg". My best guess was it was supposed to be "young".

Proper font choice is crucial.

(http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/78/74/7648cfaaa5996e82ea22b2d75f60dc84-poor-font-choice-for-the-word-aunt.jpg)

    :evilplus:  This is what my penmanship teacher was trying to prevent by being so strict.  :rofl: