I would have loved McCain to win then quickly die. Oh the joys of a President Palin! That would be a HOOT!
I would have loved McCain to win then quickly die. Oh the joys of a President Palin! That would be a HOOT!
pam Eugene OR November 5th, 2008 7:32 am ET
Our children can come home now or at the very least get out of Iran and fight where the real war is.
God bless Obama
VPilfs you mean.I would have loved McCain to win then quickly die. Oh the joys of a President Palin! That would be a HOOT!
That's just 'cause you're hot for MILFs.
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
obama who?
:asthing: :congrats: :cheer: :1st: :kilt: :party: :respect:
He won't last long - any alterior agenda will result in a bullet in his head. Only a matter of time ...I swear he is the first president to be projected to be assassinated before he even takes office. Really it was an election between Biden and Palin.
Same shit, new package. Hasn't been a decent president in the US since Teddy Roosevelt.
Though there hasn't been a decent Swedish leader since Charles XII. :(
Same shit, new package. Hasn't been a decent president in the US since Teddy Roosevelt.
Though there hasn't been a decent Swedish leader since Charles XII. :(
then why are you posting?
then why are you posting?
I can't post and not care? Who says? :thumbdn:
Simon.
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
:hahaha:
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
:hahaha:
The jokes on you for falling for another jimmy carter :thumbup:
I would have loved McCain to win then quickly die. Oh the joys of a President Palin! That would be a HOOT!
Simon.
I bet you're glad that you can finally take the US seriously as an egalitarian nation. Ol' Lincoln would be ejaculating liberty from heaven right now.
Simon.
I bet you're glad that you can finally take the US seriously as an egalitarian nation. Ol' Lincoln would be ejaculating liberty from heaven right now.
I felt that way for about half a day, and then I checked out the results of some of the propositions. Arizona, Florida, and California banned gay marriage. Arkansas banned unmarried(Take a guess at who this was aimed at) couples from adopting. I mean seriously, like those children really wanted parents that badly. Still a bunch of hypocrites we are. ::sighs::
socialism works. true story.
:laugh:
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
:hahaha:
The jokes on you for falling for another jimmy carter :thumbup:
I like Jimmy Carter.
Can you tell I have problems? :wanker:
Simon.
I bet you're glad that you can finally take the US seriously as an egalitarian nation. Ol' Lincoln would be ejaculating liberty from heaven right now.
I felt that way for about half a day, and then I checked out the results of some of the propositions. Arizona, Florida, and California banned gay marriage. Arkansas banned unmarried(Take a guess at who this was aimed at) couples from adopting. I mean seriously, like those children really wanted parents that badly. Still a bunch of hypocrites we are. ::sighs::
My biggest fear is that the centrist persona he ran with is a facade and the true horrors of socialism will come to the forefront of his early actions.
Amazing that we fought decades of cold war, then WON, only to elect one from the side we fought against.
</my nightmare>
socialism works. true story.
In small groups, I might agree, but socialism in this country's political environment, defining the lives of almost three hundred million souls, we lose.
So do you, if you have life long investments in anything but bullion or gems.
Wow. I expected Obama to win in a tight race, but McCain got slaughtered.
http://www.cbsnews.com/
52% to 47% is a slaughter, fasinating
I'm sure he will make the morons lives just wonderful :violin:
:hahaha:
The jokes on you for falling for another jimmy carter :thumbup:
I like Jimmy Carter.
He just about crippled the country, so it shows you are a true POS if you like him. :thumbdn:
wait until he starts nationalizing industries and trying to micro manage the economy, people won't be cheering him on than :thumbdn:
social democracy ftw :P
social democracy ftw :P
Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.
Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.
social democracy ftw :P
Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.
Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.
I was under the impression that Obama will pick a lot of experienced people to his administration. :-\
One just a little shorter than the distance to the ground?
One just a little shorter than the distance to the ground?
One just a little shorter than the distance to the ground?
attractive pointy white hat you're wearing there.
One just a little shorter than the distance to the ground?
attractive pointy white hat you're wearing there.
One just a little shorter than the distance to the ground?
attractive pointy white hat you're wearing there.
You and your "phylacterous allure."
:D
I have wanted to use that phrase for a long while!
new spammies on their way!
Of course, that's more common, but I was dipping back into the Greek roots of original usage and bastardising it with modernistic English suffixes.
Phylactery
Phy*lac"ter*y\, n.; pl. Phylacteries. [OE. filateri, OF. filatire, filatiere, F. phylact[`e]re, L. phylacterium, Gr. ?, fr. ? a watcher, guard, ? to watch, guard. Cf. Philatory.]
1. Any charm or amulet worn as a preservative from danger or disease.
Cynicism is healthy for you.
Of course, that's more common, but I was dipping back into the Greek roots of original usage and bastardising it with modernistic English suffixes.
Phylactery
Phy*lac"ter*y\, n.; pl. Phylacteries. [OE. filateri, OF. filatire, filatiere, F. phylact[`e]re, L. phylacterium, Gr. ?, fr. ? a watcher, guard, ? to watch, guard. Cf. Philatory.]
1. Any charm or amulet worn as a preservative from danger or disease.
:clap:
yay - i'm a condom!
:LMAO:
like Jon Stewart said, i look at him and i see a human. he said it jokingly but i know he meant it, and it was true. 99% of politicians are not human. i see Obama really cares, and he is an actual person. that's why i'm so excited, not just cuz he's black. he's someone whose integrity i trust.
i don't wanna sound corny but i think we've been given a gift here and we should drop the cynicism for once and just see what comes.
like Jon Stewart said, i look at him and i see a human. he said it jokingly but i know he meant it, and it was true. 99% of politicians are not human. i see Obama really cares, and he is an actual person. that's why i'm so excited, not just cuz he's black. he's someone whose integrity i trust.
i don't wanna sound corny but i think we've been given a gift here and we should drop the cynicism for once and just see what comes.
Why not just see what he does and watch what results it has? I don't see the point of speculating about whether he's "human" or not - of course he's going to be hiding things, of course he's presenting a public appearance to his advantage. Anyone under that much scrutiny would be an idiot not to. But if he changes even a few of the right things, he'll be doing better than the last guy.
:-*
so could you call me your leeeeeltle amulet from now on? :eyelash:
:-*
so could you call me your leeeeeltle amulet from now on? :eyelash:
No, you will always be the aurorean beaming of luminous jestery, adorned of lucent wingedwitchiness*, radiating feminine prominence to all the dark places heavily gathered of boywood in the hopes of catching the glimpse of a single ray, to me.
Amulets are too short-lived.
*be sure to pronounce that wing ED witchiness.
Why not just see what he does and watch what results it has? I don't see the point of speculating about whether he's "human" or not - of course he's going to be hiding things, of course he's presenting a public appearance to his advantage. Anyone under that much scrutiny would be an idiot not to. But if he changes even a few of the right things, he'll be doing better than the last guy.
:D:-*
so could you call me your leeeeeltle amulet from now on? :eyelash:
No, you will always be the aurorean beaming of luminous jestery, adorned of lucent wingedwitchiness*, radiating feminine prominence to all the dark places heavily gathered of boywood in the hopes of catching the glimpse of a single ray, to me.
Amulets are too short-lived.
*be sure to pronounce that wing ED witchiness.
how the fuck am i supposed to get all that under my avatar?
:LMAO:
(that's gorgeous, dawg - i'm sighing with deliciousness - thank you! :-* i owe you a :plus: )
I plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"
i had the biggest grin on my face. ;D
I plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"
I tend to make the opposite mistake and choke down on impulsive creativity until it's lost its explosive spark. :-\
Didn't stop me from lying awake late last night grinning though, completely surprised to suddenly feel hopeful about this country. At the moment I don't care if Obama turns out to be a letdown, it's still good to see a bit of heroics about our leadership.
I don't know enough about politics to be able to make any remotely accurate speculations at this point about what the future will bring.
Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
i had the biggest grin on my face. ;D
I watched the election coverage on the edge of my seat until well past time to take my morning walk, the whole time terrified that something was going to fuck us up, again.
:asthing:
Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
You think McCain would have been at enough risk of assassination that Palin's existence would have been an effective deterrent?
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
I plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"
I tend to make the opposite mistake and choke down on impulsive creativity until it's lost its explosive spark. :-\
Didn't stop me from lying awake late last night grinning though, completely surprised to suddenly feel hopeful about this country. At the moment I don't care if Obama turns out to be a letdown, it's still good to see a bit of heroics about our leadership.
I don't know enough about politics to be able to make any remotely accurate speculations at this point about what the future will bring.
The politics in a nutshell:
Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
You think McCain would have been at enough risk of assassination that Palin's existence would have been an effective deterrent?
Don't you? (Well, OK, it was meant to be humorous)
How well do you know the ramblings of Palen? She seems like a toxic substance to me, best avoided at all costs.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
Hope you're right, my friend!!
social democracy ftw :P
Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.
Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.
I was under the impression that Obama will pick a lot of experienced people to his administration. :-\
I am always very suspicious of the trendy, with-it, chic, hip fads, like electing a young, inexperienced black-ish president and most particularly when the objet la mode happens to have the gift of charismatic, alluring dazzle and enchantment, loaded with the magic of pizzaz, splashing the hustle of righteousness, sublime rectification, corrective betterment and discipline to the point of glamorous Juju to everyone in earshot.
:hides mojo:
It all seems too good to be true.
I believe we're beguiled by a "wixard" of phylacterous allure.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.Any exceedingly great president can be honored on their birthday. The more influential of a world leader you are, the more pages you have written about you in the history books. Dubya will have a good amount written about his presidency, but it will be mostly negative. I don't see Obama going on Mr. Rushmore though, no matter how great he is. The man was backed by some powerful lobbyists. Franklin Raines was the former CEO of Fannie Mae (Obama financial advisor) and helped Obama get a lot of his funding. Any president would want to be great due to self interest, they all get remembered in some way. He will be historic for being the first minority president, but his legacy will be how he does his job. He can be motivated to be great all he wants, hopefully he has the right people around him and takes the right advice.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
Obama is funded a lot more by ordinary people than anyone else has ever been. Also it might be worth noting, but Biden is probably the poorest senator in the senate.the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.Any exceedingly great president can be honored on their birthday. The more influential of a world leader you are, the more pages you have written about you in the history books. Dubya will have a good amount written about his presidency, but it will be mostly negative. I don't see Obama going on Mr. Rushmore though, no matter how great he is. The man was backed by some powerful lobbyists. Franklin Raines was the former CEO of Fannie Mae (Obama financial advisor) and helped Obama get a lot of his funding. Any president would want to be great due to self interest, they all get remembered in some way. He will be historic for being the first minority president, but his legacy will be how he does his job. He can be motivated to be great all he wants, hopefully he has the right people around him and takes the right advice.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
Obama hasn't got his 60 seats in the Senate I gather - so atm he does not have the greatest of freedoms.the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.Any exceedingly great president can be honored on their birthday. The more influential of a world leader you are, the more pages you have written about you in the history books. Dubya will have a good amount written about his presidency, but it will be mostly negative. I don't see Obama going on Mr. Rushmore though, no matter how great he is. The man was backed by some powerful lobbyists. Franklin Raines was the former CEO of Fannie Mae (Obama financial advisor) and helped Obama get a lot of his funding. Any president would want to be great due to self interest, they all get remembered in some way. He will be historic for being the first minority president, but his legacy will be how he does his job. He can be motivated to be great all he wants, hopefully he has the right people around him and takes the right advice.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
it is difficult to be an exceedingly great president. obama is in a unique position. it is his to lose...a national holiday in his honour.
Did I do an :asthing:?
Sarcasm?
*snort*
Obama is funded a lot more by ordinary people than anyone else has ever been. Also it might be worth noting, but Biden is probably the poorest senator in the senate.the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
I plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"
I tend to make the opposite mistake and choke down on impulsive creativity until it's lost its explosive spark. :-\
Didn't stop me from lying awake late last night grinning though, completely surprised to suddenly feel hopeful about this country. At the moment I don't care if Obama turns out to be a letdown, it's still good to see a bit of heroics about our leadership.
I don't know enough about politics to be able to make any remotely accurate speculations at this point about what the future will bring.
The politics in a nutshell:
Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
True, but I hope there are other ways to pay back than sell the presidency to the corporations.
Blimey it wasn't just teachers funding him - they are just one group of ordinary people. Who can blame them for wanting an educated populace.Obama is funded a lot more by ordinary people than anyone else has ever been. Also it might be worth noting, but Biden is probably the poorest senator in the senate.the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
you are correct in a way, the ordinary people gave the money to the teachers who where pushed by their union and own self interest to fund Obama for president. How much longer can the education machine get away with ripping off the working class by suckering them into forking over massive sums of money for white collar job lottery tickets called college degree's is something we will see shortly once all sorts of kiddies are waving their college degree's crying they can't find the high paying job they where promised.
The population will soon catch on those $300,000 lottery tickets where a waste of money and a fools game.
Did I do an :asthing:?
Sarcasm?
*snort*
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
True, but I hope there are other ways to pay back than sell the presidency to the corporations.
Holy shit! I think we found something we AGREE on!! :laugh: :hotrodder:
And it finally begins to make sense. It's the words you're dancing with. /facepalm
It's a sad day in hell when the one who calls herself a writer doesn't get it. :hahaha:
Blimey it wasn't just teachers funding him - they are just one group of ordinary people. Who can blame them for wanting an educated populace.Obama is funded a lot more by ordinary people than anyone else has ever been. Also it might be worth noting, but Biden is probably the poorest senator in the senate.the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.
obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
you are correct in a way, the ordinary people gave the money to the teachers who where pushed by their union and own self interest to fund Obama for president. How much longer can the education machine get away with ripping off the working class by suckering them into forking over massive sums of money for white collar job lottery tickets called college degree's is something we will see shortly once all sorts of kiddies are waving their college degree's crying they can't find the high paying job they where promised.
The population will soon catch on those $300,000 lottery tickets where a waste of money and a fools game.
As for degrees - some lottery tickets are better value than others (over here we have the same problem and yes I hate it nearly as much as you do). Also you cant win without a ticket!
don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
Unprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underway
NEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground states
our 3.2 million members
Noop, it is that effect from without that makes me feel that I have been nuked.
Those spotlights you noticed were deliberately placed, sometimes in chore, with an expectation of finding those with parallel experiences from which I might gain register by being witness to others' attempts at leveling their own compasses. I've said that before, several different ways. It pangs me a bit that my mean of arrival is not acceptable to some.
I don't feel a sense of having choked in hesitation or having stumbled short of the venture after as many posts as I've jostled together from the shavings of my mind. I feel more often that I have slogged past the boundary of mapped points once again and, finding myself beyond the periphery continually, I conclude that the perilous margins I've recklessly tromped are almost infinite when compared to the charted ways.
Noop, it is that effect from without that makes me feel that I have been nuked.
Those spotlights you noticed were deliberately placed, sometimes in chore, with an expectation of finding those with parallel experiences from which I might gain register by being witness to others' attempts at leveling their own compasses. I've said that before, several different ways. It pangs me a bit that my mean of arrival is not acceptable to some.
I don't feel a sense of having choked in hesitation or having stumbled short of the venture after as many posts as I've jostled together from the shavings of my mind. I feel more often that I have slogged past the boundary of mapped points once again and, finding myself beyond the periphery continually, I conclude that the perilous margins I've recklessly tromped are almost infinite when compared to the charted ways.
With those kind of natural resources at your fingertips, then, it's a crime that there aren't greater parallels. I'm anchored well on the sane side of reality right now, because I'm manning a lighthouse to call the lost back, but the horizon beckons.
The laughing bit was my own embarrassment at having admired the power in your images from a distance and then stumbled over myself to meet them in depth, when all that was missing were a few twists of words.
his speech was good. :orly:
don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
his speech was good. :orly:
It was.
He also headed off some of his critics, by calling himself a "mutt." Took too long to set that up, but it was an interesting Reagan-esque touch.
don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
that's not how to conduct a debate, dear: you have to lay out your arguments, and back them up with references, not expect the oppo to read screeds of histrionic piffle, thereby doing all the work.
try again, pet. :-*
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
Under federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
Your guy is on the oil industry payroll but you worry about teachers. ::)
All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%
People who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
Your guy is on the oil industry payroll but you worry about teachers. ::)
what is the differance between getting ripped off by exxon stockholders and NEA stockholders ? Could it be anyone can get in on the action with exxon for less than $100 a share and only those wealthy enough to buy their way into the teachers country club get big dividends like a huge salary for a part time job and lavish benefits while people are forced by law to pay for their crap product even if they don't use it.
Please don't start on teachers their job is hard enough as it is no matter what you think and it hasn't been until recently they have been paid comparability for what is required of them. BTW little self interest here as that is what my wife does :P
Your guy is on the oil industry payroll but you worry about teachers. ::)
what is the differance between getting ripped off by exxon stockholders and NEA stockholders ? Could it be anyone can get in on the action with exxon for less than $100 a share and only those wealthy enough to buy their way into the teachers country club get big dividends like a huge salary for a part time job and lavish benefits while people are forced by law to pay for their crap product even if they don't use it.
Teachers are less interested in starting wars to build new pipelines. You lose.
All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%QuotePeople who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
Ha - as if most US teachers have that amount of money to spare. Asides, even if your radical conspiracy theory is true - as of yet you have provided NO evidence, its a lot better than how McCain raised his money. A president having a vested interest in education is brilliant for the average citizen of the US. Just think - the next Sarah Palin might actually realise Africa is not a country.All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%QuotePeople who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
I did THINK, see above
$600 million divided by 3 million teachers is $200 each so it's perfectly possible the bulk of his funding came from the education machine because teach and her husband can both send in less than $200 and also use other family members names to donate money. So all it would take is around 20 to 25% of the teachers sending in around $1000 each and doing it under multiple family members names to keep it under $200 per donor to account for every cent Obama got from the supposedly little people.
so it is perfectly feasable most of his funding came from the education machine and large percentages of the people attending the rally's where feeding off education spending and all the groupies who fell for it's the revolt of the little people got snowed big time by a Big Business called education.
Why the fuck would we be able to successfully knock Obama off when we haven't been able to do so with Dubya???He won't last long - any alterior agenda will result in a bullet in his head. Only a matter of time ...I swear he is the first president to be projected to be assassinated before he even takes office. Really it was an election between Biden and Palin.
I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.LOL. That's the best explanation I've heard yet- I'd actually heard it pointed out before that Cheeney is prolly the real reason Dubya's still alive and kicking.
I concur; the gay marriage bans were pretty shit on our part as a nation. Also fucking ridiculous. Either allow it or ban straight marriage. Fucksake. People are cruel, petty shitheads.
Simon.
I bet you're glad that you can finally take the US seriously as an egalitarian nation. Ol' Lincoln would be ejaculating liberty from heaven right now.
I felt that way for about half a day, and then I checked out the results of some of the propositions. Arizona, Florida, and California banned gay marriage. Arkansas banned unmarried(Take a guess at who this was aimed at) couples from adopting. I mean seriously, like those children really wanted parents that badly. Still a bunch of hypocrites we are. ::sighs::
Can anything 'work' broad-scale, though? Our minds literally aren't built for living in a world this big; we're kind of wired to be in small groups. Thing is, that's not exactly an option and won't be again barring apocalypse.socialism works. true story.
In small groups, I might agree, but socialism in this country's political environment, defining the lives of almost three hundred million souls, we lose.
So do you, if you have life long investments in anything but bullion or gems.
Why not just see what he does and watch what results it has? I don't see the point of speculating about whether he's "human" or not - of course he's going to be hiding things, of course he's presenting a public appearance to his advantage. Anyone under that much scrutiny would be an idiot not to. But if he changes even a few of the right things, he'll be doing better than the last guy.:agreed:
the teachers could care less about the population being educated, they only care about being paid big bucks and to keep the money flowingThere's a tiny bit of truth in there, though I don't think it actually goes down to the individual level. I do think most teachers have good intentions/feel that they are doing good/are, the way the world works now, performing a service which has been made necessary... but I also think the education system instills values that keep it going as a moneymaking machine- which is has the nearly unique ability to do (like a religion). We value education because we have been taught to value it.
Ha - as if most US teachers have that amount of money to spare. Asides, even if your radical conspiracy theory is true - as of yet you have provided NO evidence, its a lot better than how McCain raised his money. A president having a vested interest in education is brilliant for the average citizen of the US. Just think - the next Sarah Palin might actually realise Africa is not a country.All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%QuotePeople who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
I did THINK, see above
$600 million divided by 3 million teachers is $200 each so it's perfectly possible the bulk of his funding came from the education machine because teach and her husband can both send in less than $200 and also use other family members names to donate money. So all it would take is around 20 to 25% of the teachers sending in around $1000 each and doing it under multiple family members names to keep it under $200 per donor to account for every cent Obama got from the supposedly little people.
so it is perfectly feasable most of his funding came from the education machine and large percentages of the people attending the rally's where feeding off education spending and all the groupies who fell for it's the revolt of the little people got snowed big time by a Big Business called education.
Why the fuck would we be able to successfully knock Obama off when we haven't been able to do so with Dubya???He won't last long - any alterior agenda will result in a bullet in his head. Only a matter of time ...I swear he is the first president to be projected to be assassinated before he even takes office. Really it was an election between Biden and Palin.I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.LOL. That's the best explanation I've heard yet- I'd actually heard it pointed out before that Cheeney is prolly the real reason Dubya's still alive and kicking.I concur; the gay marriage bans were pretty shit on our part as a nation. Also fucking ridiculous. Either allow it or ban straight marriage. Fucksake. People are cruel, petty shitheads.
Simon.
I bet you're glad that you can finally take the US seriously as an egalitarian nation. Ol' Lincoln would be ejaculating liberty from heaven right now.
I felt that way for about half a day, and then I checked out the results of some of the propositions. Arizona, Florida, and California banned gay marriage. Arkansas banned unmarried(Take a guess at who this was aimed at) couples from adopting. I mean seriously, like those children really wanted parents that badly. Still a bunch of hypocrites we are. ::sighs::Can anything 'work' broad-scale, though? Our minds literally aren't built for living in a world this big; we're kind of wired to be in small groups. Thing is, that's not exactly an option and won't be again barring apocalypse.socialism works. true story.
In small groups, I might agree, but socialism in this country's political environment, defining the lives of almost three hundred million souls, we lose.
So do you, if you have life long investments in anything but bullion or gems.Why not just see what he does and watch what results it has? I don't see the point of speculating about whether he's "human" or not - of course he's going to be hiding things, of course he's presenting a public appearance to his advantage. Anyone under that much scrutiny would be an idiot not to. But if he changes even a few of the right things, he'll be doing better than the last guy.:agreed:the teachers could care less about the population being educated, they only care about being paid big bucks and to keep the money flowingThere's a tiny bit of truth in there, though I don't think it actually goes down to the individual level. I do think most teachers have good intentions/feel that they are doing good/are, the way the world works now, performing a service which has been made necessary... but I also think the education system instills values that keep it going as a moneymaking machine- which is has the nearly unique ability to do (like a religion). We value education because we have been taught to value it.
Just how many teachers are there in the US (+ 20% for those on their pensions)? Let alone those with $1000 set aside to elect Obama. I think you are being very unrealistic imo.Ha - as if most US teachers have that amount of money to spare. Asides, even if your radical conspiracy theory is true - as of yet you have provided NO evidence, its a lot better than how McCain raised his money. A president having a vested interest in education is brilliant for the average citizen of the US. Just think - the next Sarah Palin might actually realise Africa is not a country.All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%QuotePeople who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
I did THINK, see above
$600 million divided by 3 million teachers is $200 each so it's perfectly possible the bulk of his funding came from the education machine because teach and her husband can both send in less than $200 and also use other family members names to donate money. So all it would take is around 20 to 25% of the teachers sending in around $1000 each and doing it under multiple family members names to keep it under $200 per donor to account for every cent Obama got from the supposedly little people.
so it is perfectly feasable most of his funding came from the education machine and large percentages of the people attending the rally's where feeding off education spending and all the groupies who fell for it's the revolt of the little people got snowed big time by a Big Business called education.
it doesn't take most current public school teachers, it takes some of them , some retired ones and some people in the college system to do it.
It can't be proven any more than global warming can be proven, it's just based on theory is it possible, some people can say no way and others can say it's possible. Neither side can prove their case.For Global Warming there is plenty of scientific evidence out there - even Bush now accepts it. You haven't provided a shred of evidence.
People are entitled to their opinion more money will improve education and than there is the fact we have been throwing more & more money at it for decades and it's gotten no better. A rational person would conclude it's time to try something else because we aren't getting anywhere so the problem must be something else, a moron would keep throwing good money after bad and expect a different result.Most of the money supposedly going into education actually goes into Research - I assume you are referring to the ridiculously overpriced college degrees? Its the primary and secondary education that is important, here education needs serious funding.
Again, can't really disagree. Not to mention the fact that the relative uselessness of some aspects of the educational system in America have been exacerbated to a ridiculous degree with the way we've been implimenting standardized testing- even if you take that away you'd have trouble getting me to buy the real-world value of "things everybody should know" because "it makes them a better person to know them," which is a lot of what you get particularly in high school and liberal arts colleges from what I have seen. Throw bullshit like teaching specifically to make students able to pass the MCAS or SATs ('teaching to the test') and I find it really hard to imagine NOT agreeing that our educational system teaches us a lot of things at our expense in order to serve and perpetuate itself; or at the very least (if that's not a conclusion you draw when you think about it), that some parts of it SUCK BALLS.There's a tiny bit of truth in there, though I don't think it actually goes down to the individual level. I do think most teachers have good intentions/feel that they are doing good/are, the way the world works now, performing a service which has been made necessary... but I also think the education system instills values that keep it going as a moneymaking machine- which is has the nearly unique ability to do (like a religion). We value education because we have been taught to value it.
each teacher does there job, it's the overall system that is messed up.
My former towns grammer school spent $3,000 per student on the wages for the teachers who had assigned classes of students. Now where did the rest of the like $15,000 per student go ?
the town I'm living in now sent out the budget for the jr high/high school only half of it went to fund the science,math,english,history type departments and some guy added up the number of school employee's per student and they had 1 employee per 5 students.
people come unglued if anyone complains about the education machine like it's a direct attack on Ms Smith the classroom teacher, most of the teachers are falling for the propaganda from the education machine also and become defensive if anyone dares complain like it's a personal attack on them.
Reality is the country could find people to teach grammer school and classes like art & gym & music cheap, so there is no reason at all to pay the same wages that are needed to attract secondary school math & science teachers to everyone. In the real world if somebody didn't like the wages being paid to deliver pizza's they would go to truck driving school to make more money driving. In Mr Rogers neighborhood of school houses there is no reason to up ones skills from gym teacher to physics teacher because it pays the same money.
Please don't start on teachers their job is hard enough as it is no matter what you think and it hasn't been until recently they have been paid comparability for what is required of them. BTW little self interest here as that is what my wife does :P
will another $20,000 a year change anything ? No the job will still be the same and the end result still the same. The underlying dysfunction in families still exsists, the lower the income in a school district the worse it is.
using the same logic to fix trucking wages need to be raised, wouldn't solve the problems at all, just cost more for stuff. If they where all union production would fall along wilth quality when almost no matter what they did, they couldn't be fired for it.
yes there are millions of people like you with self interest, hey that is the way it goes, nothing personal but I also have a self interest ME.
You get health care insurance threw your wife so can underbid other guys on work and depending on your lifestyle and mortgage you could very well have a zero stress business if your wifes income pays the basic bills and yours is just icing on the cake.
I competed for wages against people I called hobby truckers, it's not in my best interest trying to earn a living going against guys who live off their wives income and just wanted to skim off the cake work in trucking by offering to do it cheap with no benefits.
Your guy is on the oil industry payroll but you worry about teachers. ::)
what is the differance between getting ripped off by exxon stockholders and NEA stockholders ? Could it be anyone can get in on the action with exxon for less than $100 a share and only those wealthy enough to buy their way into the teachers country club get big dividends like a huge salary for a part time job and lavish benefits while people are forced by law to pay for their crap product even if they don't use it.
Teachers are less interested in starting wars to build new pipelines. You lose.
I don't loss, i win if a pipeline is built. it helps my lifestyle. I gain nothing throwing money at the education machine beside funding a lavish lifestyle for Parts at my exspense.
Your guy is on the oil industry payroll but you worry about teachers. ::)
Just how many teachers are there in the US (+ 20% for those on their pensions)? Let alone those with $1000 set aside to elect Obama. I think you are being very unrealistic imo.Ha - as if most US teachers have that amount of money to spare. Asides, even if your radical conspiracy theory is true - as of yet you have provided NO evidence, its a lot better than how McCain raised his money. A president having a vested interest in education is brilliant for the average citizen of the US. Just think - the next Sarah Palin might actually realise Africa is not a country.All from teachers? LMAO.http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638don't you just love conspiracy theorists? :laugh:
:hahaha:
:tinfoil:
http://www.nea.org/presscenter/index.htmlQuoteUnprecedented mobilization of millions of education voters underwayQuoteNEA launches new, multipronged communication blitz in 10 battleground statesQuoteour 3.2 million members
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dubious_donations_135428.htm?page=0
$600 million divbided by 3 million members of the NEA is $200 per member so it's not out of the question he received a large percentage of his funding from the NEA who have a vested interest in stopping the expansion of any alternative to public schools.
Try looking closer to $20 million, my friend :)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
Individual contributions $579,178,033 91%QuotePeople who have less than $200 dollars to donate perhaps, i.e. ordinary citizens. Think how many people that actually is if you divide through.QuoteUnder federal law, all contributions over $200 must be itemized and the donor's occupation and employer must be requested and disclosed, if provided. The Center uses that employer/occupation information to identify the donor's economic interest.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contribmethod_pop.php
If you only want to see what you want to see, you miss the real story which is most of the money came from God only knows where and if you want to believe the teachers union wasn't interested in saving their own butts, you are free to do it and believe whatever other fairy tales you wish to believe.
I did THINK, see above
$600 million divided by 3 million teachers is $200 each so it's perfectly possible the bulk of his funding came from the education machine because teach and her husband can both send in less than $200 and also use other family members names to donate money. So all it would take is around 20 to 25% of the teachers sending in around $1000 each and doing it under multiple family members names to keep it under $200 per donor to account for every cent Obama got from the supposedly little people.
so it is perfectly feasable most of his funding came from the education machine and large percentages of the people attending the rally's where feeding off education spending and all the groupies who fell for it's the revolt of the little people got snowed big time by a Big Business called education.
it doesn't take most current public school teachers, it takes some of them , some retired ones and some people in the college system to do it.QuoteIt can't be proven any more than global warming can be proven, it's just based on theory is it possible, some people can say no way and others can say it's possible. Neither side can prove their case.For Global Warming there is plenty of scientific evidence out there - even Bush now accepts it. You haven't provided a shred of evidence.QuotePeople are entitled to their opinion more money will improve education and than there is the fact we have been throwing more & more money at it for decades and it's gotten no better. A rational person would conclude it's time to try something else because we aren't getting anywhere so the problem must be something else, a moron would keep throwing good money after bad and expect a different result.Most of the money supposedly going into education actually goes into Research - I assume you are referring to the ridiculously overpriced college degrees? Its the primary and secondary education that is important, here education needs serious funding.
Please don't start on teachers their job is hard enough as it is no matter what you think and it hasn't been until recently they have been paid comparability for what is required of them. BTW little self interest here as that is what my wife does :P
will another $20,000 a year change anything ? No the job will still be the same and the end result still the same. The underlying dysfunction in families still exsists, the lower the income in a school district the worse it is.
using the same logic to fix trucking wages need to be raised, wouldn't solve the problems at all, just cost more for stuff. If they where all union production would fall along wilth quality when almost no matter what they did, they couldn't be fired for it.
yes there are millions of people like you with self interest, hey that is the way it goes, nothing personal but I also have a self interest ME.
You get health care insurance threw your wife so can underbid other guys on work and depending on your lifestyle and mortgage you could very well have a zero stress business if your wifes income pays the basic bills and yours is just icing on the cake.
I competed for wages against people I called hobby truckers, it's not in my best interest trying to earn a living going against guys who live off their wives income and just wanted to skim off the cake work in trucking by offering to do it cheap with no benefits.
That's more of an issue of affordable heath care than teachers being paid for what they do.
his speech was good. :orly:
It was.
He also headed off some of his critics, by calling himself a "mutt." Took too long to set that up, but it was an interesting Reagan-esque touch.
how was he reagan-esque? did he call himself a mutt? :P or did nancy?
i liked that for the first time listening to an american president speak, i actually mostly understood what he was saying... when bush spoke it was always avoidant circular crap that made no sense. :zombiefuck:
Please don't start on teachers their job is hard enough as it is no matter what you think and it hasn't been until recently they have been paid comparability for what is required of them. BTW little self interest here as that is what my wife does :P
will another $20,000 a year change anything ? No the job will still be the same and the end result still the same. The underlying dysfunction in families still exsists, the lower the income in a school district the worse it is.
using the same logic to fix trucking wages need to be raised, wouldn't solve the problems at all, just cost more for stuff. If they where all union production would fall along wilth quality when almost no matter what they did, they couldn't be fired for it.
yes there are millions of people like you with self interest, hey that is the way it goes, nothing personal but I also have a self interest ME.
You get health care insurance threw your wife so can underbid other guys on work and depending on your lifestyle and mortgage you could very well have a zero stress business if your wifes income pays the basic bills and yours is just icing on the cake.
I competed for wages against people I called hobby truckers, it's not in my best interest trying to earn a living going against guys who live off their wives income and just wanted to skim off the cake work in trucking by offering to do it cheap with no benefits.
That's more of an issue of affordable heath care than teachers being paid for what they do.
because just like education people fight against change, we have an out dated health care system that evolved decades ago in a different enviroment
most people believe they are underpaid for what they do, it's irrelavent what they think they are worth if somebody will do it for the same wage or less than they are getting paid what the market will pay.
we can't have a split society where SOME people are protected special people while everyone else has to compete for wages or it becomes an us versus them society. The end results with systems like that are usually very ugly when those not protected revolt.
Give it time with Obama not being able to deliver to the underclass and watch them turn on him. Lots of people really believe he is going to wave a magic wand and they will be getting good wages & benefits at their McJobs.
Oh yes I have that lavish lifestyle want to trade you can live here in Ct and I'll go up where you are. The whole system is fucked pay, insurance,education. I just wish it would all go away but I have to do what I can to survive. Give me about 5 or 10 acres I'd do my best to be self sufficient that's my goal as a lavish lifestyle but for now I strive for that goal.
OK, Johnny!
I'm still trying to get to know you here. You sound like as much of a mix of extremism from both sides, left and right, conservative and liberal, as I am.
Try to answer this question.
Using 20/20 hindsight to the best of your ability, which ten presidents in all of US history would you most proudly claim to have supported?
Copy my question and the subsequent answer to your "ask away thread" if you have one.
Oh yes I have that lavish lifestyle want to trade you can live here in Ct and I'll go up where you are. The whole system is fucked pay, insurance,education. I just wish it would all go away but I have to do what I can to survive. Give me about 5 or 10 acres I'd do my best to be self sufficient that's my goal as a lavish lifestyle but for now I strive for that goal.
Johnny, i wouldn't scroll passed your posts if you removed that horrible picture from your signature.
Who is he anyway?
Looks like a used car dealer. Or a hotel manager.
Johnny, i wouldn't scroll passed your posts if you removed that horrible picture from your signature.
wtf is this prokaryote on about?
you won't thank me, dawg, but here it is:
(http://www.dialogica.com.ar/unr/postitulo/medialab/archives/imagenes/George-W-Bush.jpg)
http://www.dialogica.com.ar/unr/postitulo/medialab/archives/imagenes/George-W-Bush.jpg
that's the url, if you're interested. and lucky you - fancy having a bush bar on one's pooter. :laugh:
wtf is this prokaryote on about?
http://www.dialogica.com.ar/unr/postitulo/medialab/archives/imagenes/George-W-Bush.jpg
that's the url, if you're interested. and lucky you - fancy having a bush bar on one's pooter. :laugh:
thank you. That hepled.
I now get this:
... stumbled over myself to meet them in depth, when all that was missing were a few twists of words.
http://www.dialogica.com.ar/unr/postitulo/medialab/archives/imagenes/George-W-Bush.jpg
that's the url, if you're interested. and lucky you - fancy having a bush bar on one's pooter. :laugh:
thank you. That hepled.
I now get this:
... stumbled over myself to meet them in depth, when all that was missing were a few twists of words.
How is it that I am to see this in a neutral light and remain cordial? I must be the one missing a few points.
... or am I?
hurry up and see it, cos i'm desperate to remove this pollution from my pooter. :puke:
;)
hurry up and see it, cos i'm desperate to remove this pollution from my pooter. :puke:
;)
Thank you for wasting my server space with THAT.
hurry up and see it, cos i'm desperate to remove this pollution from my pooter. :puke:
;)
Thank you for wasting my server space with THAT.
oh, shut up - i'm trying to help dawg out, here. let me at least give the appearance of altruism, for once. :P
... stumbled over myself to meet them in depth, when all that was missing were a few twists of words.
How is it that I am to see this in a neutral light and remain cordial? I must be the one missing a few points.
... or am I?
???
How exactly did you see it?
It was an awkward attempt to imply that maybe my words aren't as empty as they sometimes feel to me. I thought I had already established my respect for yours, with the bit about it being a crime there was so little parallel. It was not meant to be an insult, though I can see now how it reads like one.
When you answered it, I thought you were bumping the stakes up in the friendly spirit of competition. I got halfway through a response and then decided I better not, because the thread had gone on for a couple pages on another track, and I didn't want to derail it.
Did I do an :asthing:?
Sarcasm?
*snort*
I don't know.
I am becoming known, lately, for losing myself in word games. Some have gone off on me for such. I enjoy the challenge, but most duck and run when I expound with the least possible force of gut, the lightest bite or most exacting and deliberate wrest . . . not to worry. Boredom is not present at the negotiation tables, because it has nuked me.
I intend to continue playing with words, but I am at loss to find people who enjoy their roots as much as I do. I have always kept my word noise to myself, but posting here is losing appeal, these days. Keeping my thoughts to myself is a skill I have learned over time.
The jist of what I was trying to say before, is hidden in metaphorical references to alchemy, ancient superstition and legend.
I was proposing the possibility that we have all been hexxed, vexed, tricksied, pixied, by the mojo of the voodoogod we have elected to the highest office held by any human on the entire globe.
I like him, but that scares me just that much more. Why do I like a politician?
His charm and phylactery, which we have mostly all bought into, by counting votes, will soon have access to "The Button."
Wrong.
we are saved
it's just bush. don't break your back. :laugh:That's what she said.
Right now, some of the corporations are begging the state for money to help them survive.
Had GM listened to this public pulse instead of ignoring it, they would not have their legal beggars in Congress, right now.
I am very tempted to say, "Let Capitalism Continue!"
Fuck the Big Three!
That's capitalism for you--you get to choose the product can't afford.
Right now, some of the corporations are begging the state for money to help them survive.
Yeah and coincidentally, it happens to be currently the ones who have ignored their customers' wishes and continued in their attempts to appeal to our bling sense ( and yes, we are suckers in many ways for shiny, new, cool stuff), instead of manufacturing high quality, efficient cars that make sense and that we can afford. They could still have made their huge profits and offered the consumers a decent product!
Look how many "patriotic American people" have bought imported foreign cars in the past thirty years.
yeah and now they are crying their taxes are threw the roof and there are no decent jobs and all those welfare bums need to get an eduction and stop milking the system.
Right now, some of the corporations are begging the state for money to help them survive.
Yeah and coincidentally, it happens to be currently the ones who have ignored their customers' wishes and continued in their attempts to appeal to our bling sense ( and yes, we are suckers in many ways for shiny, new, cool stuff), instead of manufacturing high quality, efficient cars that make sense and that we can afford. They could still have made their huge profits and offered the consumers a decent product!
Look how many "patriotic American people" have bought imported foreign cars in the past thirty years.
yeah and now they are crying their taxes are threw the roof and there are no decent jobs and all those welfare bums need to get an eduction and stop milking the system.
My guess is about 90% chance Obama will be the worst president in History because he has the worst congress in history to deal with.
My guess is about 90% chance Obama will be the worst president in History because he has the worst congress in history to deal with.
My guess is that you'll consider him to be the worst US President in history regardless of what happens.
My guess is about 90% chance Obama will be the worst president in History because he has the worst congress in history to deal with.
My guess is that you'll consider him to be the worst US President in history regardless of what happens.
nope I don't ignore facts and won't suffer a bad case of obama derangement syndrome
I don't know. He probably would have loved this, though:i am afraid to click one of your links.
Verichip (http://www.verichipcorp.com/)
I don't know. He probably would have loved this, though:i am afraid to click one of your links.
Verichip (http://www.verichipcorp.com/)
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
i wouldn't mind if it was inserted rectally.does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
i plan on moving to idaho, building a huge wall and stockpiling guns and ammo.But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
Like I said to a friend on a Swedish board: what should we do? Try to get Kalasjnikovs and 10 tons of canned food and move to a cave in Himalaya?
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
Like I said to a friend on a Swedish board: what should we do? Try to get Kalasjnikovs and 10 tons of canned food and move to a cave in Himalaya?
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
Like I said to a friend on a Swedish board: what should we do? Try to get Kalasjnikovs and 10 tons of canned food and move to a cave in Himalaya?
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
Like I said to a friend on a Swedish board: what should we do? Try to get Kalasjnikovs and 10 tons of canned food and move to a cave in Himalaya?
The sooner the better. Bye now.
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
And it's spelled "civilized".
But it isn't. It's under your skin. Some day they will force all people to have one for our "security". Then what? Europeans have already capitulated through our gun laws.that is what the bible says will happen. 666
Like I said to a friend on a Swedish board: what should we do? Try to get Kalasjnikovs and 10 tons of canned food and move to a cave in Himalaya?
The sooner the better. Bye now.
And it's spelled "civilized".
That's why you only got a 4. :hahaha:
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
And it's spelled "civilized".
That's why you only got a 4. :hahaha:
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
And it's spelled "civilized".
That's why you only got a 4. :hahaha:
Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English spells it that way.
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
No it's not, not in BE. If Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary says one thing and you something else, you are wrong.
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
No it's not, not in BE. If Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary says one thing and you something else, you are wrong.
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
No it's not, not in BE. If Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary says one thing and you something else, you are wrong.
I suspect you need to have another read, then. We won't stay up, though. It's for your own good.
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
No it's not, not in BE. If Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary says one thing and you something else, you are wrong.
"BE"?
oh well, as i only teach advanced level creative writing, and have a PhD in it, i must definitely be wrong, then. i bow to your undoubted superior knowledge of my own language.
(what a fucking knobsplash. ::) )
civ•il•ized (BrE also -ised) /'s{I}v{shwa}la{I}zd/ adj.
1 well-organized socially with a very developed culture and way of life: the civilized world * rising crime in our so-called civilized societies * civilized peoples
2 having laws and customs that are fair and morally acceptable: No civilized country should allow such terrible injustices.
3 having or showing polite and reasonable behaviour: We couldn’t even have a civilized conversation any more.
4 typical of a comfortable and pleasant way of life: Breakfast on the terrace—how civilized! * Let’s go somewhere civilized and have a meal. opp uncivilized
actually, it's spelled "civilised" in english. and "paedophilia".
No it's not, not in BE. If Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary says one thing and you something else, you are wrong.
"BE"?
oh well, as i only teach advanced level creative writing, and have a PhD in it, i must definitely be wrong, then. i bow to your undoubted superior knowledge of my own language.
(what a fucking knobsplash. ::) )
British English.
It's not totally unknown that foreigners often are better at English than Brits and Americans themselves. Even Google's translations service spells it "civilized".
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Luckily, OALD is available online (http://www.oup.com/elt/catalogue/teachersites/oald7/lookup?cc=global):Quoteciv•il•ized (BrE also -ised) /'s{I}v{shwa}la{I}zd/ adj.
1 well-organized socially with a very developed culture and way of life: the civilized world * rising crime in our so-called civilized societies * civilized peoples
2 having laws and customs that are fair and morally acceptable: No civilized country should allow such terrible injustices.
3 having or showing polite and reasonable behaviour: We couldn’t even have a civilized conversation any more.
4 typical of a comfortable and pleasant way of life: Breakfast on the terrace—how civilized! * Let’s go somewhere civilized and have a meal. opp uncivilized
Note the stuff in red near the beginning. That's how dictionaries often indicate an alternative spelling.
Now, what are your other two dictionaries? This is fun.
You will never put a chip in anyone.
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Clever.
QuoteYou will never put a chip in anyone.
Don't worry the aliens already put one in you :spacecraft:
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Clever.
It's spelled "misspelled": mis-spelled. Learn your own language to begin with.
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Clever.
It's spelled "misspelled": mis-spelled. Learn your own language to begin with.
Oooohhh! I think he hisssssed at me.
:lol:
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Clever.
It's spelled "misspelled": mis-spelled. Learn your own language to begin with.
Oooohhh! I think he hisssssed at me.
:lol:
At least I can spell, and English isn't even my native language.
does the chip verify blood/sugar levels
Maybe, but the main thing is that it tells Big Brother where you are, and they're already in use in some companies in the USA. Some employees must have one implanted to be working there...
Many of your fraternal oxpecker peado-kind were rounded up, electronically shackled and enforced with house-arrest during Halloween.
We are civilised. We protect our children from predators, like you.
You are an idiot. Sooner or later they will implant a chip in you, no matter how law-abiding you are, and then it's too late to refuse.
And it's spelled "civilized".
:LMAO:
Tin hat time?
Nah, the chips are designed for you. We will put them in YOU!
You claim to be something that you can't spell to, and you think that it's pedophilia (also misspelled by you) to have sex with a 15 year old. You will never put a chip in anyone.
Clever.
It's spelled "misspelled": mis-spelled. Learn your own language to begin with.
Oooohhh! I think he hisssssed at me.
:lol:
At least I can spell, and English isn't even my native language.
... and had you not begun an English lesson, everyone might have continued to ignore how you have spelt and misspelt various words.
:hahaha:
Luckily, OALD is available online (http://www.oup.com/elt/catalogue/teachersites/oald7/lookup?cc=global):Quoteciv•il•ized (BrE also -ised) /'s{I}v{shwa}la{I}zd/ adj.
1 well-organized socially with a very developed culture and way of life: the civilized world * rising crime in our so-called civilized societies * civilized peoples
2 having laws and customs that are fair and morally acceptable: No civilized country should allow such terrible injustices.
3 having or showing polite and reasonable behaviour: We couldn’t even have a civilized conversation any more.
4 typical of a comfortable and pleasant way of life: Breakfast on the terrace—how civilized! * Let’s go somewhere civilized and have a meal. opp uncivilized
Note the stuff in red near the beginning. That's how dictionaries often indicate an alternative spelling.
Now, what are your other two dictionaries? This is fun.
But their first spelling of choice is also with a "z". My other dictionaries are Engelsk-Svensk ordbok from Svenska bokförlaget Nordstedt, 11th impression and Engelsk-svenska/Svensk-engelska ordboken from Esselte Studium, edition unknown, since the first pages are missing.
But that doesn't matter. What matters is how Oxford Advanced spells it, and that is the 3rd edition, 11th impression. Not my fault if the British English has degenerated since I went to high school.
"1 well-organized socially with a very developed culture and way of life: the civilized world * rising crime in our so-called civilized societies * civilized peoples
2 having laws and customs that are fair and morally acceptable: No civilized country should allow such terrible injustices.
3 having or showing polite and reasonable behaviour: We couldn’t even have a civilized conversation any more.
4 typical of a comfortable and pleasant way of life: Breakfast on the terrace—how civilized! * Let’s go somewhere civilized and have a meal. opp uncivilized"
Why do they spell all examples with "z", if they don't think that should be the first choice of spelling? odeon is dishonest even when it comes to something as simple as spelling, if he thinks he can ridicule someone.
"1 well-organized socially with a very developed culture and way of life: the civilized world * rising crime in our so-called civilized societies * civilized peoples
2 having laws and customs that are fair and morally acceptable: No civilized country should allow such terrible injustices.
3 having or showing polite and reasonable behaviour: We couldn’t even have a civilized conversation any more.
4 typical of a comfortable and pleasant way of life: Breakfast on the terrace—how civilized! * Let’s go somewhere civilized and have a meal. opp uncivilized"
Why do they spell all examples with "z", if they don't think that should be the first choice of spelling? odeon is dishonest even when it comes to something as simple as spelling, if he thinks he can ridicule someone.
They use one for the sake of clarity, often the editor's preference (quite a few quote Fowler but quickly add that both are acceptable). To use more than one would be redundant to anyone (but you) since they point out the alternative--and correct--spellings right from the start. They avoid stating an actual preference, however, since that is usually left to the individual user and context.
See, if you are a writer and want to write for a magazine, or perhaps write a book for a publisher, their respective style guides will decide which spelling to use. Sometimes they'll point at whatever is accepted by OED or M-W, but more often they'll follow a best practice that depends on where and for whom they publish. In the UK there is a strong preference for "ise" in daily papers and magazines with a UK readership, but "ize" can be perfectly acceptable when writing for a larger publisher or a magazine, especially ones also sold across the Atlantic.
You really don't know much about this, do you?
The -ize spelling is the correct, considering the roots of the word. It's as simple as that the German and Danish spelling "Benzin" (after Carl Benz) is correct and the Swedish and Norwegian spelling "bensin" is ethymologically wrong.
this is now officially the most petty thread ever. I award this discussion the Golden Pedant. :hadron:
The -ize spelling is the correct, considering the roots of the word. It's as simple as that the German and Danish spelling "Benzin" (after Carl Benz) is correct and the Swedish and Norwegian spelling "bensin" is ethymologically wrong.
Etymologically (without the "h") speaking, you're barking up the wrong tree. The subject at hand predates Carl Benz. For example, "civilise" is from the French "civiliser" (note the "s"), which in turn is from the Latin "civilis" (again note the "s").
i think that it is because they have a secret crush on you.
why is everybody picking on theo?
:yawn:
Why don't we have a moomin troll smiley?
z
No, I did that about 35 years ago (I'm 37 now). I remind you of the correct spelling.
:yawn:
Why don't we have a moomin troll smiley?
yessssssss! wantssssssssssssss! :laugh:
:yawn:
Why don't we have a moomin troll smiley?
yessssssss! wantssssssssssssss! :laugh:
:green:
Will this do?
:yawn:
Why don't we have a moomin troll smiley?
yessssssss! wantssssssssssssss! :laugh:
:green:
Will this do?
yay! thanks callaway. :-*
is it :moomin:, or similar?
No, I did that about 35 years ago (I'm 37 now). I remind you of the correct spelling.
oh, thank you, but it's okay - i can spell z.
No, I did that about 35 years ago (I'm 37 now). I remind you of the correct spelling.
oh, thank you, but it's okay - i can spell z.
Are you sure?
Shouldn't it be spellled, "zed?"
:D
No, I did that about 35 years ago (I'm 37 now). I remind you of the correct spelling.
oh, thank you, but it's okay - i can spell z.
:yawn:
Why don't we have a moomin troll smiley?
yessssssss! wantssssssssssssss! :laugh:
:green:
Will this do?
yay! thanks callaway. :-*
is it :moomin:, or similar?
It can be called that. I didn't add it yet because I wanted to see if it would do first.
It was hard for me to find a picture that was small enough to use as an emoticon.
OK, it has been added.
Try : moomin : without the spaces.
:moomin:
Whatever. Whichever president we have, its not going to make any difference. Presidents are puppets of the REAL power players. Corporations. You know, the ones with all the money?
Whatever. Whichever president we have, its not going to make any difference. Presidents are puppets of the REAL power players. Corporations. You know, the ones with all the money?
Awwwwwwww, Rage's first political post.
My biggest fear is that the centrist persona he ran with is a facade and the true horrors of socialism will come to the forefront of his early actions.
Amazing that we fought decades of cold war, then WON, only to elect one from the side we fought against.
</my nightmare>