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i hear all these stories about people being violent criminals and then it is told that they have aspergers or other kinds of autism
people with aspergers and other forms of autism are supposed to be not violent and since these people seem to obviously intend to commit a crime then wondering if they had the doctor we should have had and instead of diagnosing wrong as not aspergers this doctor diagnosed wrong as actually having aspergers
the deliberate nature of the facts presented tells me they really are a anti social criminal and us true asperger people do not get what we should be getting with people trying to make us be what they are but not
this is just my theory but needs to be researched to see if a reverse getting it wrong attitude is happening
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Aspies can be just as bad as anyone else. I read that 1 in 3 autistics are violent and did you ever hear about an 18 year old autistic guy accused of killing his mother? His name was Sky Walker and he was found unfit to stand for trial because he had a mind of a two year old so he was placed in a hospital or institution. The mother died from head injuries and I read she would lock herself in the closet as he would be pounding on the door. My guess was he had violent meltdowns and he hit her so hard she got injured and died from it. Some autistics have violent meltdowns.
It's possible to be misdiagnosed with AS because it has happened before. I never buy that committing a crime was caused by AS. But don't ever assume aspies can't commit crimes because they can. We aren't angels.
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i also have aspergers and so far all things i read about aspergers trying to learn about myself since people really do not want to answer any questions tells me the not violent but fight if threatened and this and those stories just made me start wondering
i would never do any of the things you hear in these stories
i just wanted to learn more about what i have so i can find ways to learn things people should have been teaching me but refuse to actually help me with things that is not just take these pills and also explain to myself exactly why i have trouble doing things
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i also have aspergers
Dude, this is an Aspie forum. Most people here have Aspergers ::)
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i also have aspergers
Dude, this is an Aspie forum. Most people here have Aspergers ::)
Well I'm Autistic, if that's any relevance. :orly:
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Lot of aspies get pissed when they hear about people on the spectrum committing crimes and doctors try to link it to their autism and their lawyers want to use it as a self defense in court. I used to see them pulling the "He doesn't have AS" card on the criminal. Now it's all about being pissed about making us look bad. Those aspie criminals are probably in the minority and the media makes things stick out more and make it look more common. That's what they have done with other criminals who kid nap or hurt kids and now lot of people are so paranoid they mistake an innocent man for being a pedophile and more people are paranoid about their kids being kidnapped. Heck it used to be safe for kids to ride city buses or go to movies on their own or safe to hitch hike. Now it's all unsafe and I got told it's not because crime had increased, people are just paranoid because the news had made it look more common. I used to not hear about kids being beaten in school by their bullies and then I started to hear about it when I was in maybe middle school and it seemed to be more common now. I am sure it's happened before my middle school years but they just didn't start broadcasting it until I was 14 because bullying was becoming to be serious and I think people realized it and decided something has to be done about it. Now I'm hearing about kids young as five being arrested in school for violence and I wonder what's changed or has that always happened? It's something I started to hear when I was in my late teens. They even arrested an aspie 8 year old girl in Idaho for fighting with the staff because she was trying to leave a room they put her in just because she wouldn't take off her cow jacket or tuck in the tail and tape down the ears.
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people should not quote out of context
i know this is a asperger forum and most people here have aspergers and was only trying to say what part of the spectrum i am on
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Some people with autism can be violent, just like many more people wth autism aren't.
But of course misdiagnoses happen sometimes. I personally think that doctors are more likely to misdiagnose that someone doesn't have AS when they actually do than to say they have AS when they don't, though.
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people should not quote out of context
i like pickles too
while i agree with you on the quoting out of context thing, this is a free speech forum, and people do far worse than going out of context, like editing others quotes, etc.
get used to people doing stuff that you think they shouldnt.
the good side of that is you can say anything we think you shouldnt.
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I guess it's the double edged sword of wanting more media attention for our cause. We get the good with the bad. I really don't like the mentioning of the criminals alleged ASD DX if it has nothing to do with the crime. There are good and bad people on the spectrum like there are that aren't on the spectrum.
Basically it comes down to the good old 'The Devil made me do it' defence. Except none of us want the Devil to be names Aspergers etc.
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Meh, the media these days is a cheap tabloid prostitute that regularly blows advertiser's cock everyday; while real journalism creeps in the dark alleyways at night, now a dying breed of the defiant.
So I wouldn't expect them to take us seriously, because it's now ratings and advertisers revenue that truly motivates their presses. If it doesn't contain enticements, endorsements, emotions, controversy or something to arouse primal interests, than it doesn't interest the media enough to bother with it. The only way you can get their attention is to appeal to them in the most powerful way possible, money, and lots of it.
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people should not quote out of context
i know this is a asperger forum and most people here have aspergers and was only trying to say what part of the spectrum i am on
I was not qoting out of context but simply highlighting. If you don't like it, tough.
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yes people can get misdiagnosed
yes aspies can be violent psychos
now let's get back to the spam and porn please
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...porn please
With this being higher priority.
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yes people can get misdiagnosed
yes aspies can be violent psychos
now let's get back to the spam and porn please
Nothing wrong with posting about AS. There is already porn and spam on here. Unless your post is a joke, then :asthing:
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this is the free for all board, not as advocacy,
nothing wrong with posting about wanting spam and porn here imo
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I guess it's the double edged sword of wanting more media attention for our cause. We get the good with the bad. I really don't like the mentioning of the criminals alleged ASD DX if it has nothing to do with the crime. There are good and bad people on the spectrum like there are that aren't on the spectrum.
Basically it comes down to the good old 'The Devil made me do it' defence. Except none of us want the Devil to be names Aspergers etc.
I think that Asperger's is underdiagnosed, if anything.
The "Apologising Sportsman" school of public-awareness campaigning brings us fresh insights into such things as bipolar disorder (Andrew Johns), ADHD (Willie Mason), alcoholism and womanising (far too many to list). I often wonder when some footy player is going to out himself as an Aspie and blame his misdeeds on that. One suspects, however, that there is not a great deal of overlap between the rugby-playing population and the Asperger's population.
Hey, maybe that's part of our problem! If you're good at sport, you can be forgiven for nearly any damn thing. :D
Now, back to our regularly-scheduled porn & spam....
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
But you will find also that, if the person's condition is leaked out to the press, even if it's not mention at all in a court case as being the cause to anything; the media will still spin it whatever way it sells. People love to believe that only abnormal people with something wrong with them do bad things, which is, of course, bullshit.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
But you will find also that, if the person's condition is leaked out to the press, even if it's not mention at all in a court case as being the cause to anything; the media will still spin it whatever way it sells. People love to believe that only abnormal people with something wrong with them do bad things, which is, of course, bullshit.
Yes, as if they need the comfort of knowing that danger only comes from weirdoes (and foreigners).
That most crimes are done by 'normal' people is too scary a concept.
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In Sweden the media usually say that someone is "insane" when killing or trying to kill a cop, a politician or other official, even if he goes to prison. They can't admit that a "normal" person would do such a thing. ::)
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Yes, as if they need the comfort of knowing that danger only comes from weirdoes (and foreigners).
That most crimes are done by 'normal' people is too scary a concept.
That's what I find so amusing. I've long known that humanity at it's core is still as savage as it was tens of thousands of years ago, and it only takes one motivation of sorts to reveal that truth.
People are only compelled to be civilized by laws, authority, forced ideology and/or religion, subtract all these factors, give people choice and ask yourself, would humanity as a whole be civilized without these elements forced on them? Could it behave civilized without needing law enforcement, moral rulebooks or some divine guidance looking down upon them?
The answer is simply, no.
Even if a small minority decide to be civilized, those people would not survive long from those who are uncivilized, unless, they themselves, resort to the same savage methods to protect their way of life.
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It's as crazy as the media mentioning someones race or religion when that has nothing to do with the crime.
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It's as crazy as the media mentioning someones race or religion when that has nothing to do with the crime.
Yeah, that would only make sense if they did it with every crime. So that we'd all know that there is no safe type of people.
But now they mention it 'randomly' and thus stigmatise.
I'm just trying to imagine an addition with facts added to every crimestory. With racial background to the fourth degree, religious background to the fourth degree, sexual interests, financial history from childhood on. And of course grades in school, and achievements at work.
Papers would become unreadable.
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schizo is a way better defense than AS.
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well to be fair a hell of a lot of criminals do have some fucked up heads
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well to be fair a hell of a lot of criminals do have some fucked up heads
True, but that can be found within any neurotype, race, religion etc.
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False positives are possible with any test. That's why second opinions are so important.
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while i agree with you on the quoting out of context thing, this is a free speech forum, and people do far worse than going out of context, like editing others quotes, etc.
get used to people doing stuff that you think they shouldnt.
the good side of that is you can say anything we think you shouldnt.
Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
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Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
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Wait a minute, isn't that just highlighting the underlying truth of his post? :zoinks:
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Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
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I didn't see that sentiment at all in his post; rather, he was expressing concern about the portrayal of autistics in the media. A valid concern, and one which I share.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
I don't see the problem there - the more of us who end up in caught, the more we are seen as a problem. Which would result in far better access to support for those who need it, ideally before they end up in a situation where they are committing crimes.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
I don't see the problem there - the more of us who end up in caught, the more we are seen as a problem. Which would result in far better access to support for those who need it, ideally before they end up in a situation where they are committing crimes.
True, but then you get to where people assume autism dx=violent criminal.
I certainly don't want to be looked at like I am one to be wary of just because of my dx.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
I don't see the problem there - the more of us who end up in caught, the more we are seen as a problem. Which would result in far better access to support for those who need it, ideally before they end up in a situation where they are committing crimes.
What about the court of public opinion?
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
I don't see the problem there - the more of us who end up in caught, the more we are seen as a problem. Which would result in far better access to support for those who need it, ideally before they end up in a situation where they are committing crimes.
True, but then you get to where people assume autism dx=violent criminal.
I certainly don't want to be looked at like I am one to be wary of just because of my dx.
Don't people do just that anyway, just for different reasons? (e.g. "I dont want to be associated with him, he is an oddball" and so on ) At least with proper support more will be able to hide their dx in public.
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What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.
I don't see the problem there - the more of us who end up in caught, the more we are seen as a problem. Which would result in far better access to support for those who need it, ideally before they end up in a situation where they are committing crimes.
What about the court of public opinion?
It depends how it plays out in all honesty - I think there are too many vested interests for it not to go our way. But if someone were to spin around and do a Hitler was on the spectrum article, it would be far more damaging (look up Michael Fitzgerald and some of the people he has attempted to historically diagnose). Put it this way, if people want to throw mud about us, they can. Regardless what we do.
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Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
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Wait a minute, isn't that just highlighting the underlying truth of his post? :zoinks:
I'm going for a nice blend of rogerian active listening techniques and mean-ass trolling.
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
We are suspectable to such behaviour in the same way others are. Also, I do tend to believe people with AS are more violent than others, especially with meltdowns. I have attacked a fair amount of people when I was younger, even got a knife to my brother at one stage. :zombiefuck:
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
We are suspectable to such behaviour in the same way others are. Also, I do tend to believe people with AS are more violent than others, especially with meltdowns. I have attacked a fair amount of people when I was younger, even got a knife to my brother at one stage. :zombiefuck:
We know there are consequences, but we dont have time to think about them nor give a fuck about them when we get a good angry going on.
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Well yeah, when one is angry all sense of rationality goes out of the window. :zoinks:
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Sometimes for me it's like "yeah I know this is totally wrong, but it's just too damn much fun to stop".
Other times is like rationality is in that other car that just passed you going the other way and you saying to yourself "I think I know that guy"
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
Kind of explains why you are so obsessed with abiding strictly by NT rules. Not the best obsession to have - there are plenty of people it has destroyed when they realise its a losing battle.
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
Kind of explains why you are so obsessed with abiding strictly by NT rules. Not the best obsession to have - there are plenty of people it has destroyed when they realise its a losing battle.
No it doesn't Einstein. I only got my dx 5 years ago when I was 32. So for my who life up until then I thought I was meant to be a normal person and I was just doing the typical trying to blend in thing so I wouldn't attract attention. The thing is, it's second nature now. Plus there is nothing wrong with fitting in when necessary.
I usually get a good 5-6 hours every night by myself to be myself.
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To the OP: Have you ever attacked someone?
Aspies CAN be complete cunts, murderers and arseholes in general. The only difference they have from NTs is shitty social skills, nothing else. I don't believe in this "if you're an aspie, you're instantly non-violent and more intelligent!" nonsense.
The thing is, because of said shitty social skills, we tend to end up hanging around the wrong crowds. Like criminals and drug dealers and shit.
Fuck I've been around some dangerous people and I don't care to repeat it.
Kind of explains why you are so obsessed with abiding strictly by NT rules. Not the best obsession to have - there are plenty of people it has destroyed when they realise its a losing battle.
No it doesn't Einstein. I only got my dx 5 years ago when I was 32. So for my who life up until then I thought I was meant to be a normal person and I was just doing the typical trying to blend in thing so I wouldn't attract attention. The thing is, it's second nature now. Plus there is nothing wrong with fitting in when necessary.
I usually get a good 5-6 hours every night by myself to be myself.
Yeah - it is not like you cannot form that obsession without a diagnosis, is it? Asides, someone properly fitting in with your intelligence would not be on the dole in most cases - the fact is that you struggle to do. So why religiously defend a system which does not give yourself the entitlements and equality that you and your children will not have? Surely this is something you should try and help do something about?
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Trying to fit in is not nesscessarily a bad thing. People have problems all round, but if you've AS then you're pretty much fucked if you don't try.
This condition is nothing special, it does not make you any way "better" than others. The reason why we're good at our interests is because we basically spend a good chunk of our times at it. Any retard with enough attention span on a certain hobby etc. can do the same. Don't kid yourself that you're somewhat intelligent, the hard fact is that you're not. We ARE technically NTs with a lable for shitty social skills, nothing more, nothing less.
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Trying to fit in is not nesscessarily a bad thing. People have problems all round, but if you've AS then you're pretty much fucked if you don't try.
Up to a certain point no - but we are never going to entirely fit in. The only way around the system is to find a niche which you can either control or easily adapt to. Still in those cases you are only fitting in that small environment, not in general.
If anyone is under the illusion that the more harder they work at fitting in, the easier their life will become is sadly mistaken. The problem is that the more you do, the more that is expected of you. When you get up to a certain point, you are working too hard for diminishing returns. Fitting in entirely for extended periods would drive most of us insane for those very reasons.
This condition is nothing special, it does not make you any way "better" than others. The reason why we're good at our interests is because we basically spend a good chunk of our times at it. Any retard with enough attention span on a certain hobby etc. can do the same. Don't kid yourself that you're somewhat intelligent, the hard fact is that you're not. We ARE technically NTs with a lable for shitty social skills, nothing more, nothing less.
Shitty social skills has its advantages, for one it makes you more likely to ask questions. A small thing which I say gets greatly underestimated at times. Then of course you ignore some of the things that certain Aspies have most likely have done. We could do extremely well, if only given the opportunity. For most of us, that opportunity never arrives.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
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Another thing, I've seen other aspies that don't accept the way society treats us. They tend to be a lot more unhappy or angry and still don't do anything to change it except complain more. So yeah, fuck that, I'll be happy for what good things that there are in my life thank you very much.
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Isn't that the self diagnosed that does it? I heard people who do actually have the condition try and help themselves and get better and cope in the real world while the ones who are just self diagnosed and don't really have it complain and use it as an excuse to not change. There are real ones out there who are that way too. I am sure there are self diagnosed out there who do try and change and try and help themselves.
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Isn't that the self diagnosed that does it? I heard people who do actually have the condition try and help themselves and get better and cope in the real world while the ones who are just self diagnosed and don't really have it complain and use it as an excuse to not change. There are real ones out there who are that way too. I am sure there are self diagnosed out there who do try and change and try and help themselves.
Nah, I know a guy who is DX'ed and he complains about how everything isn't his fault and they should make it easier for him blah blah blah.
This guy is very lonely.
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Isn't that the self diagnosed that does it? I heard people who do actually have the condition try and help themselves and get better and cope in the real world while the ones who are just self diagnosed and don't really have it complain and use it as an excuse to not change. There are real ones out there who are that way too. I am sure there are self diagnosed out there who do try and change and try and help themselves.
Nah, I know a guy who is DX'ed and he complains about how everything isn't his fault and they should make it easier for him blah blah blah.
This guy is very lonely.
Gee I wonder why lol
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Isn't that the self diagnosed that does it? I heard people who do actually have the condition try and help themselves and get better and cope in the real world while the ones who are just self diagnosed and don't really have it complain and use it as an excuse to not change. There are real ones out there who are that way too. I am sure there are self diagnosed out there who do try and change and try and help themselves.
Nah, I know a guy who is DX'ed and he complains about how everything isn't his fault and they should make it easier for him blah blah blah.
This guy is very lonely.
Gee I wonder why lol
You don't want to know the full story, it will make you brain bleed.
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I have known of people that want to be autistic and so seek the diagnosis purposely. These people may skew their diagnosis because they know what the psychologist wants to see, they can get their diagnosis that way.
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I have known of people that want to be autistic and so seek the diagnosis purposely. These people may skew their diagnosis because they know what the psychologist wants to see, they can get their diagnosis that way.
:duh:
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Yep, and WP is full of them. :zoinks:
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
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Another thing, I've seen other aspies that don't accept the way society treats us. They tend to be a lot more unhappy or angry and still don't do anything to change it except complain more. So yeah, fuck that, I'll be happy for what good things that there are in my life thank you very much.
I don't disagree with you - but I should add that I do quite a bit towards changing it.
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Jamieg negged my karma because he's too much of a coward to answer my question. Eejit. :hahaha:
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what a little twat. (this is not spam)
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
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I have known of people that want to be autistic and so seek the diagnosis purposely. These people may skew their diagnosis because they know what the psychologist wants to see, they can get their diagnosis that way.
Goodness, I thought it be hard to trick the doctors because they can tell what is fake and what isn't and can tell if their patients is faking something or not. They must be very good actors and liars then. That's the only way to trick a doctor.
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:agreed:
I tried to pretend I have ADHD so I could get Adderall but my shrink didn't believe me :(
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Isn't that the self diagnosed that does it? I heard people who do actually have the condition try and help themselves and get better and cope in the real world while the ones who are just self diagnosed and don't really have it complain and use it as an excuse to not change. There are real ones out there who are that way too. I am sure there are self diagnosed out there who do try and change and try and help themselves.
Nah. The dx'd people are arseholes, just the same as everyone else. The insight to actually try to help yourself doesn't have a lot to do with an official dx, just brains.
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I have known of people that want to be autistic and so seek the diagnosis purposely. These people may skew their diagnosis because they know what the psychologist wants to see, they can get their diagnosis that way.
They are idiots.
That said, it's entirely possible.
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I have Asparagus syndrome
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i have mcdonalds disorder
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It's just like Munchuasens except people are going in to fake having a condition so they can get diagnosed. I don't understand why people would want to do that. I have never heard of any case. Do they do it so they can get attention and sympathy from people or just so they have an excuse to be a jerk and all?
But there are also diagnosed people out there who do use their condition to gain sympathy or attention and complain about their real problems they don't want to fix. They just want sympathy and attention.
I have also heard of people faking learning disabilities just so they get more time on their school work or get their work modified, etc. and people faking other conditions so they get things they want like accomodations in public. I am sure they always get caught because it's so hard to fake something but people like us aren't qualified to say someone is faking it. Just because someone looks normal in a wheel chair doesn't mean they are faking it. Just because someone parks in the handicapped spot and the person doesn't look disabled doesn't mean they aren't disabled.
I remember in South Park where Cartman faked having Tourettes so he have an excuse to be even more of a jerk and get away with saying very offensive things and get away with ripping on Kyle for being Jewish. I am sure there are people out there who do fake Tourettes just so they can get away with saying profanity in public and insulting people and no one will know that person is faking it except a doctor. I am sure some people would know because if they know someone who has TS or they have it themselves, they would see the person's traits are too exaggerated so they would know the person is faking it.
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I have Asparagus syndrome
Is that when your pee smells funny?
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I have Asparagus syndrome
Is that when your pee smells funny?
It's when you commit unspeakable acts with an asparagus.
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i'm just a sexy genius
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OMG, you too? :o
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i have seen the things sheel likes to post and do not want to get in a fight since he never wants to consider other opinions only insult you until you agree with him
any person that insults you for making a opinion and insults you for trying to avoid a person trying to start a fight and has a history of starting fights just for not liking a opinion deserves to lose karma
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
True you were undiagnosed. However that just reinforces the fact the system needs to be properly supportive, rewarding people for their talents as opposed kicking them for their (often irrelevant) difficulties. A properly implemented meritocracy would correct those problems, it is why I advocate it.
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Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
:thumbup:
I didn't see that sentiment at all in his post; rather, he was expressing concern about the portrayal of autistics in the media. A valid concern, and one which I share.
i never actually said what this person claims i did
this person took a quote from a previous post and edited it and will lose karma for this
i do not come here to be insulted for having a opinion and for refusing to fight with known asses
so go kill yourself and do all of us a favor if that is all you can do to people
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Jeez. You do know this is IntensitySquared not Wrong Planet? People do edit posts here, do go offtopic, do take the piss at times. If you have a major problem with that, maybe this is not the place for you?
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I think you are missing the point of this site. This isn't a support site so people here like to insult other people and be jerks. I think PMS Elle was making a joke by changing your post. Once you learn to take the piss, people leave you alone and stop picking on you. That's what I've noticed here with me. Once I got tough and started ignoring meanness people were doing to me, it stopped. Occasionally I will get bullied by someone but I just ignore it. Sometimes it's fun to bully them back or make a joke about it.
Yeah, like this:
I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.
fixed.
:thumbup:
I didn't see that sentiment at all in his post; rather, he was expressing concern about the portrayal of autistics in the media. A valid concern, and one which I share.
i never actually said what this person claims i did
this person took a quote from a previous post and edited it and will lose karma for this
i do not come here to be insulted for having a opinion and for refusing to fight with known asses
so go kill yourself and do all of us a favor if that is all you can do to people
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LOL and you just gheyed me for that :lol:
"joining in on insulting a person with a opinion"
You will not last long here darling :zoinks:
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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What the matter jamieg? You say we're supposed to be non-violent and not provoking a fight and yet, look at your gheying comment on me, talk about hypocrite. :zoinks:
Guys, I found my annoying n00b to troll relentlessly. >:D
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I don't think he's a troll. He's acting similar over at WP. I checked to see if he went over to whine about bad evil I2 and found this:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt105671.html
Either that, or he's a really good troll :zoinks:
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It's a shame though, I was only taking the piss and he goes all serious business on me. If he can't handle fucktardedness, he doesn't belong here. Also COCKS.
Anyway, I find this rather amusing:
i do not come here to be insulted for having a opinion and for refusing to fight with known asses
so go kill yourself and do all of us a favor if that is all you can do to people
Well too bad, you just opened Pandora's box with your own faggotry. :zoinks:
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He just needs to change his mentality. I like his attitude though. The way he's going, it looks like he might be banned at WP pretty soon. He would have fitted right in here :laugh:
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He needs to lighten up though. Anyway, if he apologizes for the misunderstanding, I will be a gentlemen and back off. :eyelash:
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Some people with autism can be violent, just like many more people wth autism aren't.
But of course misdiagnoses happen sometimes. I personally think that doctors are more likely to misdiagnose that someone doesn't have AS when they actually do than to say they have AS when they don't, though.
I totally agree with Callaway.
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He just needs to change his mentality. I like his attitude though. The way he's going, it looks like he might be banned at WP pretty soon. He would have fitted right in here :laugh:
Don't ever change Camilla, I love who you are and how you think! you are my muse.
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I don't think he's a troll. He's acting similar over at WP. I checked to see if he went over to whine about bad evil I2 and found this:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt105671.html
Either that, or he's a really good troll :zoinks:
I read that thread and I actually felt sorry for him. He keeps saying that admins on WP can delete member's accounts and they indeed can do it, but what he seems to fail to realize is that they may not do it because Alex doesn't want them to. The higher Alex's fake numbers are, the better he likes it, so even if a swarm of spambots register there, they just ban them instead of deleting them.
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I don't think he's a troll. He's acting similar over at WP. I checked to see if he went over to whine about bad evil I2 and found this:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt105671.html
Either that, or he's a really good troll :zoinks:
I read that thread and I actually felt sorry for him. He keeps saying that admins on WP can delete member's accounts and they indeed can do it, but what he seems to fail to realize is that they may not do it because Alex doesn't want them to. The higher Alex's fake numbers are, the better he likes it, so even if a swarm of spambots register there, they just ban them instead of deleting them.
That being the case, how many members would you speculate that are genuine?
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I don't think he's a troll. He's acting similar over at WP. I checked to see if he went over to whine about bad evil I2 and found this:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt105671.html
Either that, or he's a really good troll :zoinks:
I read that thread and I actually felt sorry for him. He keeps saying that admins on WP can delete member's accounts and they indeed can do it, but what he seems to fail to realize is that they may not do it because Alex doesn't want them to. The higher Alex's fake numbers are, the better he likes it, so even if a swarm of spambots register there, they just ban them instead of deleting them.
That being the case, how many members would you speculate that are genuine?
If you count the (former) members who haven't posted there in years whose accounts Alex refused to delete, I think 1000 would be an over-estimate.
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fucking yay...YAY
:bdaygrn: :best: :wedding: :1st: :congrats:
I GOT MY FIRST GHEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am a real troll now! YAY! YIPPIE! HURRAY!
thanks jamie! :thumbup:
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You forgot your trolling hat ---> :toporly:
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shit, well im still learning.
here, :toporly: take that you!
(gotta work on the toporly delivery still)
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Relax, I just made that up. Personally it's the perfect emotion for trolling methinks. :)
Anyway, this is the actual truth about Aspies. :toporly:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie)
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I still remember pea having a ginger crying fit over me putting a video of his there. :lol:
This jamieg eejit doesn't seem like a troll, at first I thought it was buttcoffee taking the piss but I don't really give a fuck anymore. Jamieg, come back like a man and answer my question. One thing I really hate are cowards after all, running away when they know they can be caught out.
And jamieg: You may have your opinion, but I am in no means obliged to tolerate it. I can disagree with it all I want as much you can disagree with mine. Unlike you though, I don't act like a complete spastic when people disagree with me.
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But I think we proved a point though Shleed, we exposed the irony that he's all 'I don't wanna fight and aspies can't be capable of doing such bad things' and then he suggests people kill themselves for trolling, and calls me a fucker for messing around. :zoinks:
Also I'll just leave this here...
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Relax, I just made that up. Personally it's the perfect emotion for trolling methinks. :)
Anyway, this is the actual truth about Aspies. :toporly:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie)
the page on flardox is fucking comedy, i remember that guy from when i was on aff.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
True you were undiagnosed. However that just reinforces the fact the system needs to be properly supportive, rewarding people for their talents as opposed kicking them for their (often irrelevant) difficulties. A properly implemented meritocracy would correct those problems, it is why I advocate it.
People didn't know any better. The important thing is what is happening now. Things will take time.
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Relax, I just made that up. Personally it's the perfect emotion for trolling methinks. :)
Anyway, this is the actual truth about Aspies. :toporly:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie)
the page on flardox is fucking comedy, i remember that guy from when i was on aff.
When will they learn, blanking an ED article is the equivalent of putting a huge 'TROLL ME, I'M A LULZCOW' sign on yourself.
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Relax, I just made that up. Personally it's the perfect emotion for trolling methinks. :)
Anyway, this is the actual truth about Aspies. :toporly:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Aspie)
the page on flardox is fucking comedy, i remember that guy from when i was on aff.
I made 2 posts there and left. Couldn't fucking stand the place.
Flardox is a prime example of aspie retardation.
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I never went to AFF, already had a vibe about it being too elitist.
Back a few years ago, I probably would have thought AFF was a reasonable concept, but now I feel that such an attitude they exert doesn't do us any favors either. I see the same militant attitudes as obsessive political/religious groups have, and that can't be a good thing. No can hide behind a veil of superiority, and pretend their group is better than anyone else. Usually that actually symbolizes inferiority, as it shows that you need some kind of excuse or justification to think your better than something else.
In truth, if you did feel truly superior, you don't even need to waste your breath saying it, you just live knowing it.
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I just realized... a lot of bullshit would have been saved if I would have just mentioned two words, to easily disprove the entire 'we're all non-violent' bullshit:
William Freund
/thread
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When someone is in denial, no amount of evidence will convince them.
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Looks like jamieg is the sensitive type. :-\
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Looks like jamieg is the sensitive type. :-\
:indeed:
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
True you were undiagnosed. However that just reinforces the fact the system needs to be properly supportive, rewarding people for their talents as opposed kicking them for their (often irrelevant) difficulties. A properly implemented meritocracy would correct those problems, it is why I advocate it.
People didn't know any better. The important thing is what is happening now. Things will take time.
Serious question: Have you noticed any improvement from all the media coverage of late? Because I haven't, if anything its caused me more problems. Somehow I don't think increased awareness will help us, we are too small a group of people.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
True you were undiagnosed. However that just reinforces the fact the system needs to be properly supportive, rewarding people for their talents as opposed kicking them for their (often irrelevant) difficulties. A properly implemented meritocracy would correct those problems, it is why I advocate it.
People didn't know any better. The important thing is what is happening now. Things will take time.
Serious question: Have you noticed any improvement from all the media coverage of late? Because I haven't, if anything its caused me more problems. Somehow I don't think increased awareness will help us, we are too small a group of people.
There is improvement I think, but the media isn't driving it. Community groups are mainly driving it I'd say. It started with the parents of ASD children. These children are growing up and those parents are now questioning what is happening/going to happen for when they are adults.
Bored house wives with nothing to do except cause that is close to home is a force to be reckoned with. But like I said, these things take time.
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yes jamieg is sensitive. he is on zomg as well. i thought he was someone taking the piss when i got a couple PMs from him, but i think he's real
being an admin of an aspie site is annoying when the wp rejects come
there's always at least one that expects you to sort out their arguments with people
fuck that i'm not a babysitter
i'll do admin stuff, but i'm not looking after spazzes
i do feel a bit guilty, but i can't be arsed with this shit anymore. i just respond once and then ignore it till they threaten to sue
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But I think we proved a point though Shleed, we exposed the irony that he's all 'I don't wanna fight and aspies can't be capable of doing such bad things' and then he suggests people kill themselves for trolling, and calls me a fucker for messing around. :zoinks:
Also I'll just leave this here...
Or he just thinks we're fake aspies.
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funny that the ones accused of not being AS are always the assholes
i've lost track of how many times i've received the "you don't have AS" insult just because i was being a twat :zoinks:
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I think I got it on here by people when I got accused of being a game player when I first joined. I have gotten "You don't have AS" from at least two other people online. I think one of them was a troll though and the other was just saying it to piss me off.
I honestly don't care anymore if people say I don't have it because lot of aspies get the "You don't have AS" crap. Even parents of autistic kids get "Your kid doesn't have autism." Whats funny is people on Autism Speaks forum also pull the "You're not autistic" card. They did it to a guy just today because some autistic guy slandered someone and lied, I think he just took someone's words out of context like Violet Yoshi does and he also added words in the person's mouth just like Violet does. He had attacked others on the board too. God people are so stupid, they act like they think autistic people are angels, they wouldn't hurt a fly and they are innocent beings but yet we had another autistic bully on there and she was banned and they were all upset and didn't pull the "she isn't autistic" crap. I even called out their irony and so far my post has been ignored. Maybe they don't want to admit their hypocrisy. Cowards.
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The thing is, I think there is a half way point. Nothing is expected of me from the government because I'm on a disability pension now. I just have to pass go and collect my $200. We are doing better than most working poor families as a lot of our income is tax free. We live in public housing which isn't as bad as it sounds (shitty neighbours have left). So we pay fuck all in rent.
We get enough money these days that we don't even have to be careful how we spend it (probably should hide some in a mattress or something).
The problem is the government feels it has fulfilled its obligations by putting you on that pension, when in reality if they did their job properly, you would most likely be in decent employment, with the improvement in lifestyle that would bring. That said, given you have 5 children, it doesn't surprise me that the system makes it better for you not to work. Doesn't send out an amazing message to them.
They will help be get back into the workforce if I wanted them to. I'm just not in that place right now personally.
I wonder whose fault that is. Certainly, the state should take a lot of blame.
Meh, I blame being undiagnosed at the time I entered the workforce plus parents who had no idea how to prepare a child/young adult for the workforce.
It's now my responsibility to do something about it though. Fucking anxiety and freaky panic attacks kick my arse though. I can't even seriously think about it without nearly throwing up and shit.
True you were undiagnosed. However that just reinforces the fact the system needs to be properly supportive, rewarding people for their talents as opposed kicking them for their (often irrelevant) difficulties. A properly implemented meritocracy would correct those problems, it is why I advocate it.
People didn't know any better. The important thing is what is happening now. Things will take time.
Serious question: Have you noticed any improvement from all the media coverage of late? Because I haven't, if anything its caused me more problems. Somehow I don't think increased awareness will help us, we are too small a group of people.
There is improvement I think, but the media isn't driving it. Community groups are mainly driving it I'd say. It started with the parents of ASD children. These children are growing up and those parents are now questioning what is happening/going to happen for when they are adults.
Bored house wives with nothing to do except cause that is close to home is a force to be reckoned with. But like I said, these things take time.
Its the media that matter at the end of the day that matter, if you want anything more than small, often insignificant changes. Otherwise what normally happens is this: Community groups kick up small fuss - > government recognises small fuss - > small manoeuvre is made to combat said fuss - > society moves on, more problems are found, cycle begins again with us getting nowhere. If you don't believe me, look at lower down the spectrum - society has barely changed, there is a little more support education wise, but all in all, very few people have changed circumstances.
The thing is, I unlike you grew up with a diagnosis of AS. I am now 20 and would say relative to my peers, though I have had said support etc, I have done no better than those who have grown up in your set of circumstances, i.e. undiagnosed and not having said support. Even worse, many parents ( with AS traits ) turn around and are even more against making changes (or even providing support) than most NT's are. The only changes that are going to improve our lives are ones that change society directly, i.e. reduce what we need to do to fit in, reduce unnecessary expectations and open up opportunities. Then things will have improved, but our parents are never going to do that for us.
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being an admin of an aspie site is annoying with or without the wp rejects
Fixed :zoinks:
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shit you're right
i was wondering why i was spending more time here than my own site
i've always admited it though - i'm a shit and lazy admin :green:
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Looks like Jamie left this site. I saw his blog at Autism Speaks saying to avoid these two sites, this one and zomgaspies. Smart move he made by leaving.
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Looks like Jamie left this site. I saw his blog at Autism Speaks saying to avoid these two sites, this one and zomgaspies. Smart move he made by leaving.
Very smart move indeed... wait, what, he's on Autism Speaks? Well that explains a lot then.
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Looks like Jamie left this site. I saw his blog at Autism Speaks saying to avoid these two sites, this one and zomgaspies. Smart move he made by leaving.
Very smart move indeed... wait, what, he's on Autism Speaks? Well that explains a lot then.
he is a troll then. fuck that guy. hes prolly not even aspie. just a AS spy troll. orginazations like that are the reason i dont want a real DX.
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I think he's real. He says he is aspie over there too and does blogs. Some autistic people go over there, me Age1600, one of my former online friends, and a few WP members have signed up there such as lioness and beau.
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A blog, you say? >:D *googles*
I think I found it, but I'll link to the profile instead. Requires log in though.
http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/profile/jamie686 (http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/profile/jamie686)
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Meh I can't be arsed to register.
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shit you're right
i was wondering why i was spending more time here than my own site
i've always admited it though - i'm a shit and lazy admin :green:
Being lazy is a virtue if handled right. :orly:
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Looks like Jamie left this site. I saw his blog at Autism Speaks saying to avoid these two sites, this one and zomgaspies. Smart move he made by leaving.
Agreed. This is not his kind of place.
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hahahahaha its ignoring me now. what a twat.
yay im being ignored by someone. im on my way to troll superstardom!
:headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2:
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i hear all these stories about people being violent criminals and then it is told that they have aspergers or other kinds of autism
people with aspergers and other forms of autism are supposed to be not violent and since these people seem to obviously intend to commit a crime then wondering if they had the doctor we should have had and instead of diagnosing wrong as not aspergers this doctor diagnosed wrong as actually having aspergers
the deliberate nature of the facts presented tells me they really are a anti social criminal and us true asperger people do not get what we should be getting with people trying to make us be what they are but not
this is just my theory but needs to be researched to see if a reverse getting it wrong attitude is happening
Is this a prompt/joke? :laugh:
Overstimulation can make anyone hostile. I know some with bipolar disorder like that.
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For once Randy has a point.
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For once Randy has a point.
I know where this is going.
I like saying it anyway, its worth repeating, I usually do, its just you don't get it.
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I know where this is going.
No, you don't.
I like saying it anyway, its worth repeating
Yes, you have said the same thing in every one of your incoherent posts since you came back.
... its just you don't get it.
No shit.
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:popcorn:
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This place hasn't had a funny troll in ages.
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someone go get one and bring it back here
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This place hasn't had a funny troll in ages.
key word.
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i look like a troll when my hair is right
i can try and be funny too, if you like
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That doesn't count :thumbdn: We don't want no troll look-alikes, we want the real thing.
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You were pretty funny when you were henreich. You got Rage all kinds of pissed off.
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Two atoms are walking down the street together. The first atom turns and says, "Hey, you just stole an electron from me!"
"Are you sure?" asked the second atom.
The first atom replied, "Yeah, I'm positive!"
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We should get buttcoffee to come back :orly:
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what kind of key opens a banana?
a monkey
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What's the difference between peanut butter and jam?
You can't peanut butter your cock in someone's ass.
HAHAHA I MADE A JOKE ABOUT BUTTSECKS
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Did you hear that a boat carrying red paint and a boat carrying blue paint crashed into each other?
Apparently the crew were marooned.
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Is that all? I want more :zoinks:
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What do you call a sleepwalking nun?
Roamin' Catholic
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Is that all? I want more :zoinks:
that's what she said
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3 women are about to be executed. one is blonde, another is brunette, and the last is a redhead.guard brings to bunette forward and the killer askes if she has any last requests. she says no and the killer yells "READY!AIM!" and then the brunette yells "EARTH QUAKE" everyone runs for cover while she escapes. Then the guard brings the Redhead forward and the killer asks if she has any last requests. She says no and the killer yells"READY!AIM!" and the rehead yells"TORNADO." Everyone ducks and runs for cover while she escapes. Now the blonde has it all figured out. The guard brings the blonde forward and the killer asks if she has any last requests. She says no so the killer shouts "READY!AIM!" and the blonde yells"FIRE!"
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HAHAHA I MADE A JOKE ABOUT BUTTSECKS
WELL DONE
Now make one about cunningulus :orly: (I spelt it right at 3 am, aren't I fucking awesome)
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Why is eating pussy like being in the Mafia?
One slip of the tongue and you're in deep shit.
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What did one snowman say to the other?
Do you smell carrots?
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why do women wear makeup and purfume?
cause theyre ugly and they stink
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You were pretty funny when you were henreich. You got Rage all kinds of pissed off.
:agreed:
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Why do people want you looking at them as you speak to them or as they speak to you?
Because they are needy people who always need reassurance you are listening to them by looking at their eyes. They don't want to ask if you are listening to them because they are too lazy to ask.
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Why do people want you looking at them as you speak to them or as they speak to you?
Because they are needy people who always need reassurance you are listening to them by looking at their eyes. They don't want to ask if you are listening to them because they are too lazy to ask.
Apparently 10% of a conversation is the actual words spoken, the rest is body language/facial expression/voice tone etc.
Also some people have slight hearing problems and need to look at your lips when you talk.
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For deaf people it's different but so many so called normal people want eye contact for no reason. I always say I have ears I can hear. I hear it's because that's how they know you are listening and if you don't look at them, it means you are being dishonest, hiding something, or you don't like them. Talk about paranoia. I don't think that way. Then I have also heard too much eye contact means you're lying so this is all confusing. I know people look away as they speak and look back at the person.
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It all boils down to framing words with charm, you can convince anyone of anything if you know how to express it right.
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For deaf people it's different but so many so called normal people want eye contact for no reason. I always say I have ears I can hear. I hear it's because that's how they know you are listening and if you don't look at them, it means you are being dishonest, hiding something, or you don't like them. Talk about paranoia. I don't think that way. Then I have also heard too much eye contact means you're lying so this is all confusing. I know people look away as they speak and look back at the person.
Think about it this way. You know how with email and posts how someone the reader can misinterpret the tone and even the meaning of your posts or other just because it's a text medium? Well it's the same with RL conversations. That's why people need face to face conversations. Plus if you hide your face that can be interpreted as you are lying because you are trying to hide the signs of lying by not looking at their face. The average liar will try and hide their face because they can't look the other person in the eye.
The eye contact thing is one we are always going to lose at. You make specific eye contact in the part of the conversation where you are trying to emphasise what you are saying. You need to do it for the right amount of time too. It's not all or nothing.
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^People in the past have thought I was lying because I wouldn't look at them. Especially when I was at school.
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Yes, I have a problem with that, too, but I think I'm getting better at it. They don't know what to make out of me.
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I have no idea if people think I'm lying. Only way to tell is if they don't listen to me. I realized it's not that they are too stupid to understand, maybe they just don't believe me.