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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: TheoK on August 15, 2009, 01:08:50 PM
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Potassium chlorate was banned in English fireworks already in 1875(!) WTF? :thumbdn:
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Sure on the date? Not much in the way of things and chemicals were banned back then you could still get white phosphorous matches in the US
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I'm not 100% sure, but I know that guns were licensed already in 1903 in England, several decades before most of the rest of Europe, so yes, it's quite possible. :grrr:
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But in England we're so brave that we don't give a shit about potassium chlorate in our fireworks :shamone:
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If you knew anything about fireworks you'd know that chlorates are kind of the "staples" in pyrotechnics.
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That's why America has fireworks on the 4th of July.
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America is BRAVE! :arrr:
I'm reading a 1825 book from an American officer Cutbush. I see that potassium chlorate was called "hyperoxymuriate salt of potassa" back then. "Muriate" was the old name of chloride, so one extra oxygen atom would make it "oxymuriate" or subchlorate (if that exists) with modern therminology and two "hyperoxymuriate". I don't know what these old guys would have called perchlorate. "Hyperdeutoxymuriate"? :scratchhead:
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Oh, they had discovered it but they called it perchlorate like today and didn't see its potentials. :-\
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dexter, good to see you
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If you knew anything about fireworks you'd know that chlorates are kind of the "staples" in pyrotechnics.
but I don't think I care
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::)
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Talk to the Chinese about fireworks; afterall, they were the ones who invented them. As with gunpowder back in the 12th or 13th century.
Now THAT'S BRAVE
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.
We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.
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we had fireworks in the back garden last year
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.
We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.
That's real cowardice. Even in Sweden people are allowed to buy firework "cakes" up to 1 kg and pretty big rockets. They banned 4" mortars last year but you can still buy powerful 2" and 3".
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.
We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.
That's real cowardice. Even in Sweden people are allowed to buy firework "cakes" up to 1 kg and pretty big rockets. They banned 4" mortars last year but you can still buy powerful 2" and 3".
The reason they did it was little buggers kept letting them off in other kids pockets or kept blowing their hands off. The biggest 'crackers' we had were penny bungers, but the biggest professional crackers were about the size of a 2 litre Coke bottle.
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.
We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.
That's real cowardice. Even in Sweden people are allowed to buy firework "cakes" up to 1 kg and pretty big rockets. They banned 4" mortars last year but you can still buy powerful 2" and 3".
The reason they did it was little buggers kept letting them off in other kids pockets or kept blowing their hands off. The biggest 'crackers' we had were penny bungers, but the biggest professional crackers were about the size of a 2 litre Coke bottle.
What happened to Darwinism?
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KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.
The cowardly firework law is English, however.
They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.
We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.
That's real cowardice. Even in Sweden people are allowed to buy firework "cakes" up to 1 kg and pretty big rockets. They banned 4" mortars last year but you can still buy powerful 2" and 3".
The reason they did it was little buggers kept letting them off in other kids pockets or kept blowing their hands off. The biggest 'crackers' we had were penny bungers, but the biggest professional crackers were about the size of a 2 litre Coke bottle.
What happened to Darwinism?
:agreed:
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some kid setting off a firework at someone else is darwinism?
i don't see the point in banning fireworks. that's retarded. they should make sure kids don't get hold of them though. some little shits tie them to cats' tails etc
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some kid setting off a firework at someone else is darwinism?
No, but idiots killing themselves with fireworks/bombs is Darwinism. :angel:
i don't see the point in banning fireworks. that's retarded. they should make sure kids don't get hold of them though. some little shits tie them to cats' tails etc
My dad bought me my first firecrackers when I was 4. The age limit back then was 15, but most dealers didn't care. I had a starting revolver at 10 and bough ammo in the gun store without anyone questioning it. And that was less than 30 years ago.
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some kid setting off a firework at someone else is darwinism?
i don't see the point in banning fireworks. that's retarded. they should make sure kids don't get hold of them though. some little shits tie them to cats' tails etc
The problem is, who is going to make sure the kids don't get them. You get jerk parents who buy them and give them to kids. This keeps happening so the government steps in and bans them outright.
Sure they should fine or imprison the parents or other adult(s) that give kids fireworks, and more so if the kid injures themself. But who wants to arrest daddy after little johnny loses an eye or fingers and is in hospital? ::)
I do miss bonfires and firecrackers.
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some kid setting off a firework at someone else is darwinism?
i don't see the point in banning fireworks. that's retarded. they should make sure kids don't get hold of them though. some little shits tie them to cats' tails etc
The problem is, who is going to make sure the kids don't get them. You get jerk parents who buy them and give them to kids. This keeps happening so the government steps in and bans them outright.
Sure they should fine or imprison the parents or other adult(s) that give kids fireworks, and more so if the kid injures themself. But who wants to arrest daddy after little johnny loses an eye or fingers and is in hospital? ::)
I do miss bonfires and firecrackers.
No bonfires either :o
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We have bonfires in Sweden for Easter and the Eve of May. :toporly:
They used to have bonfires here in western Sweden for Midsummer too.
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That goes back to Sweden's pagan roots. Easter originally fell on March 21 as Ostara, Beltane was Mayday and June 21 was the longest day in the northern hemisphere. As the Vikings were Norse peoples, they would have had the Scandinavians adopt their gods
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The Vikings! I actually live in the old Norse province Viken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viken,_Norway)! :arrr:
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My father regularly buys hundreds of dollars worth of fireworks for every holiday. We set them off with our family quite regularly. I have come close to setting neighbors' roofs on fire many times. The last time we did fireworks on the beach, we had one tip over and it almost hit my father. We usually buy the illegal stuff (at least it is illegal in Florida). We have had stuff that is basically a quarter stick of dynamite before. Fun times.
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Lots of the bigger fireworks are banned here but I can fave a fire up to 3 feet in diameter in the yard without any sort of permissions. I lit up some magnesium forks from a bike once and nobody complained :green:
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some kid setting off a firework at someone else is darwinism?
i don't see the point in banning fireworks. that's retarded. they should make sure kids don't get hold of them though. some little shits tie them to cats' tails etc
The problem is, who is going to make sure the kids don't get them. You get jerk parents who buy them and give them to kids. This keeps happening so the government steps in and bans them outright.
Sure they should fine or imprison the parents or other adult(s) that give kids fireworks, and more so if the kid injures themself. But who wants to arrest daddy after little johnny loses an eye or fingers and is in hospital? ::)
I do miss bonfires and firecrackers.
No bonfires either :o
Without the firecrackers, no one does the bonfire anymore. Plus you'd probably need permits up the wazoo and it would probably be too much effort or something.
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Lots of the bigger fireworks are banned here but I can fave a fire up to 3 feet in diameter in the yard without any sort of permissions. I lit up some magnesium forks from a bike once and nobody complained :green:
Magnesium ribbons are great. Use 'em to make papier mache and plasticine volcanoes like we did at school....
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I have lots of magnesium, though not ribbons but powder. :toporly:
(http://www.svenskakemi.nu/images/e-mg100.jpg)
(http://www.svenskakemi.nu/images/e-mg100-burk.jpg)
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If you tried to light the powder, it'd go up in your face. The ribbon acts as a wick.
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If you tried to light the powder, it'd go up in your face. The ribbon acts as a wick.
Don't you think I know? ???
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If you tried to light the powder, it'd go up in your face. The ribbon acts as a wick.
Don't you think I know? ???
You might, but there is Randy....
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ive got some fireworks but im afraid of them. they were given to me years back.
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ive got some fireworks but im afraid of them. they were given to me years back.
What to be afraid of if your real worried about it get some electrical rocket igniters and light them from a distance
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thats a good idea.
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I make my own it's nice to be far away when the stuff fucks up :thumbup:
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im more worried about the tube or cluster of tubes falling over than i am about lighting them.
i guess i should glue them to a board or something?
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Is it Roman candles or what? You can bury them in sand or clay to 1/3 or tie them to an iron bar or a pipe that you put down in the ground with a sledgehammer.
Though I don't think there's anything to be afraid of. Old fireworks can be stored for decades, if in a proper environment.
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Gunpowder, sulphur, salt peter, magnesium... Stick it in an empty Coke can with a wick. Throw it at some assholes and VOOM! No more assholes.
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:agreed:
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mini artillery shells and
(http://www.keystonefireworks.com/images/miniartilleryshells.jpg)
steel wave 8-shot
(http://images.tntfireworks.com/tnt/products/png/steel-wave.png)
i have some experience with roman candles, m80s, bottle rockets, big fancy bottle rockets, fire crackers etc.
but these are fucking FIREWORKS (admitedly small)
they are highly illegal where im at, even sparklers are illegal here.
i dont want to hurt anyone or anything or get arested.
i just want to get rid of them(preferably by using them)
i need good instructions, lit.
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Those are just some aerial salutes and an eight shot cake. You just put them on the ground a light them. ???
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im mostly worried about them falling over(especially the 8shot)
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im mostly worried about them falling over(especially the 8shot)
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No, the 8 shot stands firmly on its own, just place it on a flat concrete surface or something. Cakes are the safest fireworks to handle. They even sell cakes here that are well over the one kilo limit (and thus illegal without a permit), because they're that safe to handle.
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k, cool
now i just need to come up with a good opurtunity to be BRAVE ;)
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:agreed:
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Nov 5. That's when you get to blow shit up.... :evillaugh:
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This one is beautiful, though it costs fucking 1700 kronor (about 200 USD$) and that is at a reduced price!
Svea Victory (http://www.sveafireworks.com/se/produkter/arrangemang/view.asp?ID=85)
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:indeed:
And Sweden is pretty cowardly.