INTENSITY²
Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Parts on November 28, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
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What's going on here? All the fighting and excessive spamming. It used to be there where topics they didn't say in topic long but they started that way now all it seems to be is bicker bicker bicker. We don't have to get along and have group hugs but the insults are getting a bit much. If this is what everyone wants so be it but I find it tiring. Find something to debate or talk about disagree all you like but what's been going on here is boring
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I agree parts. It is tiring. Some people just won't quit though.
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However I would be willing to call a cease-fire.
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What's going on here? All the fighting and excessive spamming. It used to be there where topics they didn't say in topic long but they started that way now all it seems to be is bicker bicker bicker. We don't have to get along and have group hugs but the insults are getting a bit much. If this is what everyone wants so be it but I find it tiring. Find something to debate or talk about disagree all you like but what's been going on here is boring
:plus: Agreed. I'm not posting here as much because I'm tired of all the bickering. It's not even contained to one or two threads. It's all over the rucking board. I've got enough drama in my real life. :P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er-M7HKknKM
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However I would be willing to call a cease-fire.
That's one who else will step up to the plate and be an adult?
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Sorry about the dog-spam. I can be a bit of an ass sometimes. I find it funny and forget that it annoys the majority.
I'm also sorry the arguing is annoying everyone else, but I'm not gonna stop this until Les does. I was the bigger one last time and ended it civilly (proof on the board if anyone doesn't believe me). Not gonna do that this time thoug.
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Everybody get like that some times it happeneds Now will Sir les step up?
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Parts I do appreciate you playing the part of the negotiator but the answer is a "No" of sorts.
Hear me out on this. Intensity had a formula which worked. People with large personalities would bustle about in the forum. A niggle or disagreement would brew and then the two combatants would set up a call-out to thrash whatever problem out. The rest of the board would have a Peanut Gallery. The contestants to the individual call-out would thrash it out and not niggle elsewhere, would not join the Peanut Gallery and would not join each other's call-out. One on one. Drama kept from spreading.
That is what ought to have happened here, in spirit of the place but Bint and Soph treat this like a bit of a spam playground and are happy saying what they like wherever they like, I have felt I had to follow suit just to not be disadvantaged.
We have two Call-out threads against me. They are located solely in the Main Events area.
If Soph and Bint can redirect their angst there, that it where I will get all shots at them. They have their own so no need to back each other in the one thread. The threads that have been started to aim shots at each other we can drop, and no more aiming shots (even subtle ones at each other).
One callout each and it is where it ought to be contained.That is what I propose and that will save the board from the spam bullshit and ongoing sniping. I have always been up for that but just refuse to fight with a hand behind my back if they are prepared to fight all over and I am restricted not to fight anywhere but the callout.
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So I take it that's a no to parts' question then? ;)
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However I would be willing to call a cease-fire.
That's one who else will step up to the plate and be an adult?
Key words here.
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So I take it that's a no to parts' question then? ;)
Read what I said there rather than ask me.
It says everything to be contain soley in the two callouts and that is it. No more starting or continuing brawling around the forum. The fight contained in there as it is supposed to be.
However I would be willing to call a cease-fire.
That's one who else will step up to the plate and be an adult?
Key words here.
Yes you can see from that, that Parts believes that "stepping up to the plate" make someone an adult. I disagree.
Your point is lost.
The adult solution I have is to stop subjecting everyone else to thread after thread of fighting and contain it within the callout.
Fulfills the same end result that Parts is after. He has started this thread because he, and probably some others are sick of seeing the fighting everywhere. He wants to be reasonable and say "OK guys let's break it". That is reasonable. Containing it is too.
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Fine, be a cunt.
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Read what I said
We do. But sometimes it's difficult to work out what you're saying. Is English your second language?
Not to mention it takes a long time to read through all those words AND translate them... are you getting paid by the word or something?
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You too Soph. Stick in your callout.
You want to prove you are sorry for Spamming everywhere, this is kind of the time to prove it.
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Retard I meant the dog-spam. I'm not sorry for how I usually post, dick head :zoinks:
You sure wanna impose a lot of rules on people, considering this is an unmoderated board :thumbup:
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Retard I meant the dog-spam. I'm not sorry for how I usually post, dick head :zoinks:
You sure wanna impose a lot of rules on people, considering this is an unmoderated board :thumbup:
My "rules" are not mine but the board's and have worked well with it
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,12634.0/topicseen.html
Direct comments here Soph and stop spamming this crap over the forum. Parts, CG and others don't want to see it
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You self-righteous little prick :lol:
They're not "rules", dick head
What's gonna happen? odeon gonna delete my posts? Didn't think so. Now suck it up and fuck off :thumbup:
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You self-righteous little prick :lol:
They're not "rules", dick head
What's gonna happen? odeon gonna delete my posts? Didn't think so. Now suck it up and fuck off :thumbup:
You are going to make a bigger ass of yourself and show your contempt of this place and its members included those I just mentioned just like you and Bint did with your reaction to posting the porn in the shoutbox and just like you did with the dog spam and just like you do with every other action here. Both of you. I am not doing anything. I am giving you a means to not continually piss off people here and that is all.
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,12634.0/topicseen.html
Post in here Soph. You know you want to.
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What? Porn in the shoutbox? What the FUCK are you talkign about? Going senile already?
Contempt for this place, no. I like both parts and cg. I also like a few others like renaeden and GA and PMSElle. But I'm not gonna bullshit around just because you tell me to. This thread is already about arguing. Sure I'll stop making NEW threads, but I;m not gonna stop posting in ones that already exist
Especially when you keep posting in them as well. If you really just wanted to keep this in the one thread, you'd just respond to posts in that thread. But no, you wanna make it look like you're being the nice guy here.
Ha!
Yeah, go and make some more posts about people's pets dying and try to set off their mental illnesses... why don't you make some homophobic and racist posts too, while you're at it? I mean, you've already started with the transphobia, why stop there? Oh shit yeah, I forgot the double standards. It's only transphobia that you'll get away with ;)
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What? Porn in the shoutbox? What the FUCK are you talkign about? Going senile already?
Contempt for this place, no. I like both parts and cg. I also like a few others like renaeden and GA and PMSElle. But I'm not gonna bullshit around just because you tell me to. This thread is already about arguing. Sure I'll stop making NEW threads, but I;m not gonna stop posting in ones that already exist
Especially when you keep posting in them as well. If you really just wanted to keep this in the one thread, you'd just respond to posts in that thread. But no, you wanna make it look like you're being the nice guy here.
Ha!
Yeah, go and make some more posts about people's pets dying and try to set off their mental illnesses... why don't you make some homophobic and racist posts too, while you're at it? I mean, you've already started with the transphobia, why stop there? Oh shit yeah, I forgot the double standards. It's only transphobia that you'll get away with ;)
Yes you should give Nasty Les a real piece of your mind. In here.
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,12634.0/topicseen.html
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You know when you keep on posting in this thread, you're posting in this thread?
Or is that a difficult concept for your brain? Sorry
I'll dumb it down to your level:
You are a retard :thumbup:
You wanna keep this shit to the same thread? Don't post in all the others with your pointless links
And yes, you are pretty nasty. Who the fuck else would attack someone by making posts about their dog/cat dying? Only a little fucker with a sick mind, that's who
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It is pretty easy to just not look at threads or scroll past the spam posts.
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:agreed:
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
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You know when you keep on posting in this thread, you're posting in this thread?
Or is that a difficult concept for your brain? Sorry
I'll dumb it down to your level:
You are a retard :thumbup:
You wanna keep this shit to the same thread? Don't post in all the others with your pointless links
And yes, you are pretty nasty. Who the fuck else would attack someone by making posts about their dog/cat dying? Only a little fucker with a sick mind, that's who
;) See you over the callout then. Oh and I am not going to snipe at you on any old or new threads, unless you decide to do so. The callout is where that is to occur. So bring your heaviest handbag
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
They all are, get used to it. I remember when the majority of I2 members were being dickheads to eachother, that was when the site was actually intense.
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
They all are, get used to it. I remember when the majority of I2 members were being dickheads to eachother, that was when the site was actually intense.
Pillars of Humanity, all.
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
Like to say that this proclamation bothers me GA. Truth is, it really doesn't, but thanks for your 1c worth anyhow.
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
Like to say that this proclamation bothers me GA. Truth is, it really doesn't, but thanks for your 1c worth anyhow.
Why would you like to say it bothers you?
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
Like to say that this proclamation bothers me GA. Truth is, it really doesn't, but thanks for your 1c worth anyhow.
Why would you like to say it bothers you?
Because unlike the two here that you have thrown your support behind, I have some respect for you.
Shame then that you take that position, but then again in greater scheme of life, who really cares?
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
They all are, get used to it. I remember when the majority of I2 members were being dickheads to eachother, that was when the site was actually intense.
Pillars of Humanity, all.
I would like to topple the pillars of humanity, to be honest.
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
They all are, get used to it. I remember when the majority of I2 members were being dickheads to eachother, that was when the site was actually intense.
Pillars of Humanity, all.
I would like to topple the pillars of humanity, to be honest.
Good luck in finding any.
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Sir Les...You're being a bit of dickhead.
They all are, get used to it. I remember when the majority of I2 members were being dickheads to eachother, that was when the site was actually intense.
Pillars of Humanity, all.
I would like to topple the pillars of humanity, to be honest.
Good luck in finding any.
I meant the pillars as perceived by the masses. I have yet to meet anyone I would consider as a "Pillar of Humanity" or anything of that ilk. Mostly worthless bags of flesh and guts.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
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I still wish it would end. It is is nonproductive and further drives peony away
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I've offered to end this twice now, may I remind you all 8)
Unfortunately this immature git hasn't got the grace to step down and be a man :(
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I've offered to end this twice now, may I remind you all 8)
Unfortunately this immature git hasn't got the grace to step down and be a man :(
I accepted your truce in the callout and you started a thread to try and smear me. You then wanted to drop it and I countered that the callout that you and Soph both started was best to resolve it.
Not wanting to let unresolved issues and bad blood fester is hardly immature is it Bint?
So remind us all you like Bint but the callouts are there and best to be used if you are at all genuine.
(Course in the mean time you and Soph probably ought to sort out the messes you have made with Phlexor, TigerLily and PPK (You girls have been busy). I won't be online a while as I have work in another 8 hours. I can wait. You two have a bit of patch up in the meantime.
Guess that blows you moral high ground huh?
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Not to smear you but to point out that you have been taking information out of the Elder forum in order to make low personal attacks on others. Stop trying to play the victim. Poor, poor, little Les, getting picked on by two, mean kids (emo)
Calling you "old man" and the like hardly warrented for the fucking essay you wrote to mock Soph being transgendered does it? It was mean and spiteful and all that followed was us retaliating. You seem to like drawing great attention to the paedo comment (big fucking deal, it's not like he said you ARE one) and the heart attack thread forgetting all this was made in answer to the fucked up shit you wrote about Lily. It's been you the whole time Les.
I think the privilege you have in this argument is that most of the really messed up shit you wrote is safely stored away at ZOMG, not to mention the actual beginning of this argument. None of this would have happened if a) you didn't stick your oar in where it wasn't wanted b) I didn't try to protect a person who was unworthy of being considered a friend in the first place.
I couldn't care less about Phlexor or PPK, they took your side and attacked us so we attacked them. Hardly a sin is it ::)
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Huh?
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Oooh, les made a comment where it wasn't wanted, boo fucking hoo. You don't want others to comment, take it to PM. Unless you are the moderator. :laugh:
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What are you talking about? ???
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Huh?
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Ooooh shleedy! :zoinks:
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Oooh, les made a comment where it wasn't wanted, boo fucking hoo. You don't want others to comment, take it to PM. Unless you are the moderator. :laugh:
Oh boo hoo, I made a comment to Les that he didn't like and he got butthurt enough to start up an argument over it :violin:
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Oooh, les made a comment where it wasn't wanted, boo fucking hoo. You don't want others to comment, take it to PM. Unless you are the moderator. :laugh:
Oh boo hoo, I made a comment to Les that he didn't like and he got butthurt enough to start up an argument over it :violin:
So what's your point? You're as bad as him?
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Not really, he made personal attacks first ;)
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MUM! HE STARTED IT!
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Useless Idiot of the Aspie Elite
:orly:
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Awesome comeback! :clap: :thumbup:
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Yours was much better I know:
MUM! HE STARTED IT!
:hahaha:
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I thought it said a lot.
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I like the big red words
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I thought it said a lot.
Hence why you're the useless idiot 8)
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I thought it said a lot.
Hence why you're the useless idiot 8)
But I'm the useful idiot.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
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(http://www.popularpages.net/pics/hardcore-gay-sex_4_3652_si.jpg)
Identity problems, Bint?
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
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(http://www.popularpages.net/pics/free-gay-sex-movies_4_3595_si.jpg)
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
They have identity issues, that's all.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
They have identity issues, that's all.
I know, but a nice secure place for the four of them would be a good thing. Would be nicer to watch too.
Intensity is nice, just like a hot dish, but it should not be a complete plate of pepper that you eat, that's boring. An almost over the top hot side-dish is exciting.
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Hyke and Les, having sex? :zombiefuck:
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
They have identity issues, that's all.
I know, but a nice secure place for the four of them would be a good thing. Would be nicer to watch too.
Intensity is nice, just like a hot dish, but it should not be a complete plate of pepper that you eat, that's boring. An almost over the top hot side-dish is exciting.
Hopefully they'll calm down, eventually.
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(http://www.popularpages.net/pornsitepics/his-first-gay-sex+-1052-2.jpg)
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see this picture and a lot of others on planetclimax.com! :orly:
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
They have identity issues, that's all.
I know, but a nice secure place for the four of them would be a good thing. Would be nicer to watch too.
Intensity is nice, just like a hot dish, but it should not be a complete plate of pepper that you eat, that's boring. An almost over the top hot side-dish is exciting.
Who would be the fourth person, besides Sir Les, Bint, and Soph, Hyke?
I like all three of them but they keep trying so hard to hurt one another with their comments they have wound up hurting people they would have never intended to hurt.
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Then you will see decreasing in posts aside from the bickering and the death of this forum, Snipes here and there are healthy but this is turning into a bitchy bitchy place not fun for the rest of us
Which is why I advocate to have it contained in the callout thread and let the bad blood spill and the venting complete and not festering.
I expect you having been here a while see good reasoning behind this and have seen it work in the past.
Agreed. The callout forum was designed for that purpose.
Can you confine people to the callout forum Odeon? Just a technical question. :P
Yes, shouldn't be a problem.
And keep them out of the peanut gallery too?
Oh yes, it's very easy to change permissions like that. I'm assuming you'd want to only confine a select few to the callout area?
Oh LOL, Yes, getting all members confined in there would be very boring wouldn't it?
I'm just annoyed by having all of it spread all over the board.
They have identity issues, that's all.
I know, but a nice secure place for the four of them would be a good thing. Would be nicer to watch too.
Intensity is nice, just like a hot dish, but it should not be a complete plate of pepper that you eat, that's boring. An almost over the top hot side-dish is exciting.
Who would be the fourth person, besides Sir Les, Bint, and Soph, Hyke?
I like all three of them but they keep trying so hard to hurt one another with their comments they have wound up hurting people they would have never intended to hurt.
Well, PKK is in a call out too. That's why I said four.
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I dunno what's happening with this callout thing but I'm finished with my arguments with Les and PPK. Not coz I think I've lost or anything, but if someone doesn't just end this now, then nobody will, and after talking privately with a few people (who aren't involved), I think it's for the best. I still believe I was right in everything that I've said, so I stand by it (except the paedo comment and th hear attack thread, which I will see again was wrong and I regret). Make of this what you will. Apart from the two things I just mentioned, I still believe everything I said, there are just things more important in life than slugging it out till the death (other people on here and IRL factors)
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Thank you.