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Title: Castro resignation
Post by: Calandale on February 19, 2008, 10:12:10 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/19/castro/index.html

The end of an era.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 10:24:37 AM
About damn time.   I have heard nothing positive from Cubans that have moved here about him.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Calandale on February 19, 2008, 10:33:41 AM
About damn time.   I have heard nothing positive from Cubans that have moved here about him.
:zoinks:

Yeah, of course not. Those who left, fled.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
About damn time.   I have heard nothing positive from Cubans that have moved here about him.
:zoinks:

Yeah, of course not. Those who left, fled.
It isn't like he held actual elections that weren't rigged.  There was great respectful about the guy and his methods of wealth redistribution.

The people that fled have varied in how well they have done over here.   My fraternity brother's family did very well after they came here, and would freely talk about how you are limited income wise in Cuba.   Basically you can get paid for being a lazy ass who is unmotivated, while the hard workers earn the same.   They get paid now for their hard work in the US. 
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Calandale on February 19, 2008, 10:41:56 AM
Some aren't capable of seeing that there
is something more in life than money.

That's why capitalism persists.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 10:44:43 AM
Some aren't capable of seeing that there
is something more in life than money.

That's why capitalism persists.
The world is run off of currency, always has been.   Either that or a bartering system for goods and services.   Doctors work technically should earn more than a janitor, either in currency or in traded goods or services.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: SovaNu on February 19, 2008, 11:06:00 AM
janitors are as important as doctors. without the cleaners and trash caretakers and all these invisible people that take care of other people's shit, we'd be fucked up the ass with a mayfuckingpole. i can't say enough how much i appreciate people who do that work.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 11:09:03 AM
janitors are as important as doctors. without the cleaners and trash caretakers and all these invisible people that take care of other people's shit, we'd be fucked up the ass with a mayfuckingpole. i can't say enough how much i appreciate people who do that work.
They don't have to go through the training required to do the job.   My father has a client that is a neurosurgeon, and that guy should be paid more than the person who does roofing.   He operates on the human brain, you have to have beyond steady hands and proper training to do that.   It isn't the same as a trade or just cleaning.   Doctors can save lives.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: SovaNu on February 19, 2008, 11:13:38 AM
and without cleaners people would die. :toporly:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 11:16:01 AM
and without cleaners people would die. :toporly:
They would clean shit themselves.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: SovaNu on February 19, 2008, 11:20:12 AM
not public shit. you think people would take their trashbags all the way to the ...place they take trash bags... themselves? or clean public buildings? or clean public toilets after they made a mess? people only have time for themselves.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
not public shit. you think people would take their trashbags all the way to the ...place they take trash bags... themselves? or clean public buildings? or clean public toilets after they made a mess? people only have time for themselves.
Of course not, it is a job nobody wants to do but most people can do.    Most people can't be doctors, and would fail miserably if they were to even try.

People are selfish, you should realize this by now.   That is why everyone won't be treated the same, and why even in a supposedly communist system... people will still be treated differently according to their importance.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: SovaNu on February 19, 2008, 11:33:46 AM
 :'(

 :P
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: SovaNu on February 19, 2008, 11:34:31 AM
i have OCD so cleaning would be the hardest job for me. i guess i take it personally. :P
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: richard on February 19, 2008, 11:36:30 AM
wow. i guess i need to watch the news more, last time i heard about him he was gonna die or something
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 19, 2008, 11:40:25 AM
i have OCD so cleaning would be the hardest job for me. i guess i take it personally. :P
I have done maintenance work in the past.   When I worked at Publix (grocery store) at age 16, I would have to clean the bathrooms quite often (we had a rotation among employees).   It isn't difficult for me at all to clean.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Dexter Morgan on February 19, 2008, 04:31:21 PM
i have OCD so cleaning would be the hardest job for me. i guess i take it personally. :P
Probably less messy than brain surgery.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: ASpHole on February 19, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
Now that Fidel Castro is gone, Cuba will most likely have to deal with his brother. At the same time, I'd like to see Cuba open up a bit more, but I have a feeling that the descendants of the Batista regime supporters would most likely attempt to reclaim what they lost when they fled in the late 50's and early 60's. --Back then, Havana was essentialy like a cross between Las Vegas and Tijuana, and most of the people who lived there really weren't well off.

--It will be interesting to see what happens, irregardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: vodz on February 19, 2008, 08:43:22 PM
Now that Fidel Castro is gone, Cuba will most likely have to deal with his brother. At the same time, I'd like to see Cuba open up a bit more, but I have a feeling that the descendants of the Batista regime supporters would most likely attempt to reclaim what they lost when they fled in the late 50's and early 60's. --Back then, Havana was essentialy like a cross between Las Vegas and Tijuana, and most of the people who lived there really weren't well off.

--It will be interesting to see what happens, irregardless of the outcome.

Fidel's brother will take office, and Fidel will remain pulling the strings from behind the scene. ::)
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 19, 2008, 08:53:48 PM
Now that Fidel Castro is gone, Cuba will most likely have to deal with his brother. At the same time, I'd like to see Cuba open up a bit more, but I have a feeling that the descendants of the Batista regime supporters would most likely attempt to reclaim what they lost when they fled in the late 50's and early 60's. --Back then, Havana was essentialy like a cross between Las Vegas and Tijuana, and most of the people who lived there really weren't well off.

--It will be interesting to see what happens, irregardless of the outcome.

Fidel's brother will take office, and Fidel will remain pulling the strings from behind the scene. ::)

That's so gross. 
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 20, 2008, 08:29:43 AM
Now that Fidel Castro is gone, Cuba will most likely have to deal with his brother. At the same time, I'd like to see Cuba open up a bit more, but I have a feeling that the descendants of the Batista regime supporters would most likely attempt to reclaim what they lost when they fled in the late 50's and early 60's. --Back then, Havana was essentialy like a cross between Las Vegas and Tijuana, and most of the people who lived there really weren't well off.

--It will be interesting to see what happens, irregardless of the outcome.

Fidel's brother will take office, and Fidel will remain pulling the strings from behind the scene. ::)

That's so gross. 
That kind of stuff is expected somewhat.   I had hope that they would at least move in a more capitalist direction and eventually have real elections.  Cuba has always been fucked up in the past to some degree, it doesn't need to go back to an era, it needs to move forward.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: The_P on February 20, 2008, 08:38:23 AM
If only Tony Montana was there to witness it with Manny.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 20, 2008, 08:39:57 AM
If only Tony Montana was there to witness it with Manny.
They would be living it up.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: richard on February 20, 2008, 11:15:29 AM
i wanna go to cuba now. ive always wanted to visit st lucia but have a feeling that one will be a little bit out of my price range so cuba, haiti and the dominican republic are now my only options. the africa of the carreibean :laugh:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Parts on February 20, 2008, 03:04:13 PM
Another ten years and it will be a tourist destination with all the big hotels and casinos
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: vodz on February 20, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
I'd love to live in communist Cuba - free health care!

No branding on product packaging, no advertisements. Just state-supplied goodness.
Bliss.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: richard on February 20, 2008, 10:49:13 PM
Another ten years and it will be a tourist destination with all the big hotels and casinos
:harp:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Parts on February 21, 2008, 06:33:13 PM
It will be the new Bahamas
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Sophgay on February 21, 2008, 08:03:34 PM
I've never been to cuba
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Parts on February 21, 2008, 08:06:57 PM
I've been within 100 miles of it :zoinks:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Sophgay on February 21, 2008, 08:08:08 PM
Closest I've been is New York
Second closest I've been is Ireland
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 21, 2008, 09:08:10 PM
I think Texas is the closest for me.
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: DirtDawg on February 21, 2008, 09:12:12 PM

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Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 21, 2008, 09:19:37 PM

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:laugh:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Dexter Morgan on February 21, 2008, 11:14:30 PM
Closest I've been is Miami
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: Alex179 on February 21, 2008, 11:16:51 PM
Closest I've been is Miami
I have been to Key West.   There are areas of Miami that might as well be a part Cuba.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Castro resignation
Post by: DirtDawg on February 22, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
Closest I've been is Miami
I have been to Key West.   There are areas of Miami that might as well be a part Cuba.  :laugh:

True, that!!

I've been to Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Dominicam Republic, Turks and Caicos, several other ex-British colonies on tour, but I think that Miami is just about as close.

It's like Cubans don't exactly jump in boats and purposefully row to the other isles as much as they do Florida.