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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Minister Of Silly Walks on January 09, 2019, 11:06:33 PM
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Anyone in the mood for some Jordan Peterson?
Grab your daily dose right here:
http://www.wisdomofpeterson.com/
Evil is the force that exists as potential truth
God alleviates the light of metaphorical substrate
I'm finally starting to get it. Jordan Peterson is so smart and so deep. We all need to listen more.
Give the wisdom generator a try and post your favourite utterances here!
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Doesnt sound like the kind of thing he says.
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Knowledge experiences intricate dominance hierarchies
You're right Al, normally he sounds much more stupid.
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"Hidden meaning opens intricate brains"
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Knowledge experiences intricate dominance hierarchies
You're right Al, normally he sounds much more stupid.
Not normally.
He can get lost in the philosophical. Trying to marry the philosophical with the psychological. But not especially. Sam Harris likewise tries to marry tje philosopgical to the neurological a bit. The difference is no in lack of intellect but in style. Harris is more verbose and less crotchetty. However Petterson can also be a lot less convinced he has all the answers on everything.
I definitely prefer Petterson and most of what he writes and thinks is to the point. Even if some small amount of what he says is prattle and completely off base.
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"Stupid man's smart person" is not a title given lightly. You've got to earn it.
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"Pinnochio as the hero archetype is
nested immovably in the blindness
of success, roughly speaking!|"
That's some wise shit right there. I feel myself getting more ogical already.
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The traditional archetype is the
foundation of an expression of
experiences
Heavy.
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Here's a genuine opinion of Jordan Peterson from an internationally respected scientist, Dr. Michael Shermer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LsCJmIE7fM
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https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/have-archetype-will-travel-jordan-peterson-phenomenon/
For those of us who'd rather read than watch YouTube.
I am leaving the link there for myself as much as anyone else, in case I have the urge to read it at some point.
Taking the piss out of him is more fun:
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I think I'll skip both.
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Had to pull up a couple of his videos. :zombiefuck:
Seriously...get. to. the. fucking. point.
Yep, I'm dead here.
:yawn:
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There is no polite way to put this, but since Peterson claims that “If you worry about hurting people’s feelings and disturbing the social structure, you’re not going to put your ideas forward,” I’m just going to say it: Spend half an hour on his website, sit through a few of his interminable videos, and you realize that what he has going for him, the niche he has found—he never seems to say “know” where he could instead say “cognizant of”—is that Jordan Peterson is the stupid man’s smart person.
Peterson’s videos go on and on. It’s like opening up a tab for one of those bird’s nest webcams at the height of its popularity: Lots of people are watching, you feel like you should too, but nothing is happening. You keep checking back, the viewer numbers have risen, but the scene is just so grey and drab. You can make out a white object on your screen that may or may not be cracking up, but as time goes on you start to think, “This thing was not incubated properly.”
Watching his videos, it’s easy to conclude that Dr. Jordan Eggman exhibits the first documented case of the male-cry voice. Maybe he wouldn’t need to repeat himself quite so much, maybe he’d be more convincing when explaining things like men are helpless before “crazy women” and “harpies” because it’s not socially acceptable for men to hit women and that this is “undermining the masculine power of the culture” in a way that will prove “fatal” if he didn’t sound quite so much like Gwyneth Paltrow accepting her Oscar for Shakespeare in Love.
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/is-jordan-peterson-the-stupid-mans-smart-person/
“Postmodern neo-Marxism” is Peterson’s nemesis, and the best way to explain what postmodern neo-Marxism is, is to explain what it is not—that is, it is entirely distinct from the concept of “cultural Marxism.”
“Cultural Marxism” is a conspiracy theory holding that an international cabal of Marxist academics, realizing that traditional Marxism is unlikely to triumph any time soon, is out to destroy Western civilization by undermining its cultural values. “Postmodern neo-Marxism,” on the other hand, is a conspiracy theory holding that an international cabal of Marxist academics, realizing that traditional Marxism is unlikely to triumph any time soon, is out to destroy Western civilization by undermining its cultural values with “cultural” taken out of the name so it doesn’t sound quite so similar to the literal Nazi conspiracy theory of “cultural Bolshevism.”
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Had to pull up a couple of his videos. :zombiefuck:
Seriously...get. to. the. fucking. point.
Yep, I'm dead here.
:yawn:
Yes, he goes on and on with lots of profound-sounding words in largely random sequence, but it's all worth it when he finally gets to the point.
Nah, I'm taking the piss. There are lots of words but no substance. Listen as intently and as long as you want, he never, ever gets to the bloody point.
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I don't think he has a point.
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Figured as much, couldn't watch the whole thing...too painful.
His reported booking fee ranges from $50,000 - $100,000 per speaking engagement. :zombiefuck:
Now if I could figure out how to take a 15 minute topic and spread it out into a pointless 4 hour monologue without boring myself to sleep or busting out laughing...I could be laying on a beach. Right. Now.
I guess in that aspect I'll admit the man has some talent.
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Meanwhile the wife.....
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I don't think
Correct
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"Stupid man's smart person" is not a title given lightly. You've got to earn it.
Here's a good rebuttal to that article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkDANY6KyDo
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https://medium.com/@shumich/all-the-dumb-things-that-jihad-jordan-peterson-has-written-said-and-tweeted-18dfb24aa3b7
Someone went to the trouble of collecting a few of the dumber things that Peterson has come out with and put them all in one place.
I am not insisting that anyone should read this except that it is extremely entertaining.
Take a look at this and tell me again how brilliant he is.
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What an utter moron. And a disgusting human being.
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Yep. It's even amazing that stupid people can't see for themselves what a complete A-grade idiot Peterson is.
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No one ever creates a compilation of the stupid things I say. >:(
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No one ever creates a compilation of the stupid things I say. >:(
It's called "I2", but it's not only about you. :zoinks:
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My stupid posts are all in one spot. It's called the "show posts" button.
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No one ever creates a compilation of the stupid things I say. >:(
It's called "I2", but it's not only about you. :zoinks:
:woohoo:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2UC1YQxy4
If you are as big a fan of Peterson as I am, it might make you cry to see him brutally eviscerated and mocked like this.
I imagine some of those evil virtue-signalling SJWs might be rolling on the floor holding their sides, not knowing whether to laugh or cry at the sheer stupidity on display. Such types might give this video a 10/10 and think it well worth spending 27 minutes of their life watching.
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Sorry. I don't think Jordan Peterson is worth 27 minutes of my life. I struggle with giving him the time required to reply to this thread.
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Sorry. I don't think Jordan Peterson is worth 27 minutes of my life. I struggle with giving him the time required to reply to this thread.
I understand. I posted it simply because it was very entertaining as well as insightful.
He is someone that you and I already know is an idiot, with even bigger idiots as his fans, and this is 27 minutes of someone taking the piss out of him and pointing out all the stupid shit he says. If you already know that he is an idiot, as you do, then it's really only worth watching for entertainment value.
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I do like to see fools suffer. :zoinks:
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And Peterson is in celebrity rehab. The irony.
I hope they keep him isolated from the other patients, he could singlehandedly drive them all back to alcoholism and drugs.
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I know I'd dink heavily if I had to listen to his bs.
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Kermit the Frog sounds so burnt out these days.
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I get a bit tired of conservatives claiming that Jordan Peterson MUST be awesomely smart because:
* He has a PhD
* He is a professor
* Nobody can work out WTF he is saying.
On the subject of PhDs, off the top of my head I have worked closely (in IT) with 4 people with PhDs. Every single one of them was well below average in their role, well below an acceptable level of competence. The qualification means little in my experience. Often an impressive qualification gets you a hired by someone who is easily impressed with such things, while the person who left school at 15 and passed an aptitude test and was put in a computer room loading tapes and worked his way up (through displaying an abundance of competence at every role they have been given) is the person you really want on your team.
On the subject of being a professor, I’ve worked with some very stupid people who worked their way up the corporate ladder successfully. By forging alliances, by knowing how to seize an opportunity and cover their arse. By playing politics well. From everything I have heard about the world of academia, it is even worse there.
JP has mastered the art of talking complete bollocks and sounding smart to stupid people. And at regurgitating standard self-help dogma coated in his own special gobbledygook. One thing I’ve noticed is that people who are fans of other public “intellectuals” will tell you about the insights they gained from listening to them or reading their books. But fans of Jordan Peterson will invariably say “I heard JP say something really smart, you have to watch this YouTube video and you’ll see how smart it is”. You know why they do that? Because they couldn’t work out WTF he was going on about either, but it sounded really smart while they were listening to it.
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I get a bit tired of conservatives claiming that Jordan Peterson MUST be awesomely smart because:
* He has a PhD
* He is a professor
* Nobody can work out WTF he is saying.
On the subject of PhDs, off the top of my head I have worked closely (in IT) with 4 people with PhDs. Every single one of them was well below average in their role, well below an acceptable level of competence. The qualification means little in my experience. Often an impressive qualification gets you a hired by someone who is easily impressed with such things, while the person who left school at 15 and passed an aptitude test and was put in a computer room loading tapes and worked his way up (through displaying an abundance of competence at every role they have been given) is the person you really want on your team.
On the subject of being a professor, I’ve worked with some very stupid people who worked their way up the corporate ladder successfully. By forging alliances, by knowing how to seize an opportunity and cover their arse. By playing politics well. From everything I have heard about the world of academia, it is even worse there.
JP has mastered the art of talking complete bollocks and sounding smart to stupid people. And at regurgitating standard self-help dogma coated in his own special gobbledygook. One thing I’ve noticed is that people who are fans of other public “intellectuals” will tell you about the insights they gained from listening to them or reading their books. But fans of Jordan Peterson will invariably say “I heard JP say something really smart, you have to watch this YouTube video and you’ll see how smart it is”. You know why they do that? Because they couldn’t work out WTF he was going on about either, but it sounded really smart while they were listening to it.
I am quite conservative and I only barely know who the fuck you are talking about.
I keep up, some, so, I can dial any of it up online if I want.
I can say from what I have seen, this fellow does not speak for me.
So, there!
We can talk about conservatism, if you wish.
Bring a gun.
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Obviously, that last part was total sarcasm. Only about ten percent of what he spouts forth about makes any sense, anyway.
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You probably need to spend more time around online conservatives. They seem to love Jordan Peterson as much as their gun rights.
Is it 10% of what he says that makes actual sense to you, or 10% of what he says that you are able to parse?
I don't have a gun, so if we are going to discuss conservatism I'm going to have to borrow one of yours.
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Most of the online political posturing crap does not interest me.
But hey, in this country, when expressing conservative views in public, one should be ready to defend against bodily injury. So aside from all my sarcasm, we must allow for and contend with reality.
And, I do have plenty of guns to help you protect yourself during your visit. I can have you up and shooting with a couple of short lessons.
Learning proper handling and safety takes a few more lessons.
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Despite being a lefty I'm pretty good with guns. Grew up around them, owned a bunch when I was younger. Gun ownership is more restricted now, we have different freedoms.
If we ever make it to the US (my son is a WW2 fanatic, he wants to see battleships and the Enola Gay and a bunch of other stuff) my son would love to have a go at a few guns.
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I'm a lefty too but I'd shoot a gun right-handed since I'm very right-eyed. I've shot a .22 rifle which was a lot of fun.
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I'm a lefty as in not a conservative. :heisenberg:
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We might actually define conservatism differently.
I DO believe that the federal government should do more to help with the poor and the homeless, along with all that,a bit more to support our veterans. Maybe even do more regarding making it a bit easier to enter the country legally. As it stands, what millions have done to enter this country is already illegal and I will put them on the boat myself to prevent them from entering our country illegally!
I do not believe that we should NOT automatically offer "all medical care" to those criminals who have entered our country illegally. If that makes me a bad person, then I say fuck off. You do not just get all the wonderful things this country has to offer from just breaking through the border at night. That shit makes you a criminal and I am one who would hold them accountable, including sending the bastards back where they came from.
Now, I will welcome any emigrant willing to follow the letter of our laws and enter within the prescribed process. We are well set to welcome them into our country, just do so legally. I have some "nice" neighbors who have done all they can, except naturalize their grandparents who feel it is a matter of respect to their elders to NOT become American. Again, I say my "nice" neighbors are harboring criminals in their midst.
Fucking become a citizen and I will invite you to my fire.
Criminals should experience the entire force of our country's statutes regarding illegal invasion. We do not like that shit here.
If you are a part of the left in this country, you might believe that NOT enforcing laws will make them go away eventually.
I do not believe you are that kind of leftist.
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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve
Jordan Peterson appears very profound and has convinced many people to take him seriously. Yet he has almost nothing of value to say. This should be obvious to anyone who has spent even a few moments critically examining his writings and speeches, which are comically befuddled, pompous, and ignorant. They are half nonsense, half banality. In a reasonable world, Peterson would be seen as the kind of tedious crackpot that one hopes not to get seated next to on a train.
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https://youtu.be/PESYQ6TGwhQ
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It seems there's more to it, but how one presents to others as a self reflection is probably part of it, as well as controlling what is in one's ability to control. Am one of those people who makes the bed within the first few minutes of waking. The oldest commented after leaving home about finally realizing the importance of a made bed, as arriving from work each day to a relaxed environment which doesn't scream of things needing to be done. Do acknowledge some people are simply more comfortable in a visually cluttered environment, though people don't seem threatened by that. Being calmed by order means being randomly labeled as mentally disordered or lacking more important things to do. A coworker once described their friend's bedroom as looking like a hotel room. Told them, I like that look. They said, the we don't really live here look? Told them, yes, that's exactly the one. :laugh:
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Read some of the previous posts and now realize the purpose of the thread is mockery. Don't know much about Peterson and don't care much for analogies, but the notion of personal mental and physical states being somewhat connected isn't new.
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Read some of the previous posts and now realize the purpose of the thread is mockery. Don't know much about Peterson and don't care much for analogies, but the notion of personal mental and physical states being somewhat connected isn't new.
My brother is a life coach, he says that all of Peterson's good ideas are standard "get your life in order" advice. He then throws on top of that a bunch of anti-feminist rhetoric, some conspiracy theories about cultural Marxism borrowed straight from the Nazi playbook, some transphobia, and a lot of words and pseudo-intellectualism.
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https://youtu.be/yfve7pM2oyw
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Read some of the previous posts and now realize the purpose of the thread is mockery. Don't know much about Peterson and don't care much for analogies, but the notion of personal mental and physical states being somewhat connected isn't new.
My brother is a life coach, he says that all of Peterson's good ideas are standard "get your life in order" advice. He then throws on top of that a bunch of anti-feminist rhetoric, some conspiracy theories about cultural Marxism borrowed straight from the Nazi playbook, some transphobia, and a lot of words and pseudo-intellectualism.
I see. Maybe these frog videos aren't good examples, except for maybe mocking Peterson's voice. :laugh:
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And Peterson is in celebrity rehab. The irony.
I hope they keep him isolated from the other patients, he could singlehandedly drive them all back to alcoholism and drugs.
He suffered from extreme symptoms from withdrawal from benzodiazepine. He came pretty close to death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWgVpmo1e0