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Planning to flee to Canada? Try accessing the immigration website first
As Trump posted strong showings in key battleground states Tuesday night, Canada's immigration website crashed.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/canada-immigration-website-down-trump-trnd/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-move-to-canada-immigration-website-crash-donald-trump-president-a7406106.html
Becoming a Canadian Citizen:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/become.asp
Canada...you better start building a wall.
*packs truck*
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Planning to flee to Canada? Try accessing the immigration website first
As Trump posted strong showings in key battleground states Tuesday night, Canada's immigration website crashed.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/canada-immigration-website-down-trump-trnd/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-move-to-canada-immigration-website-crash-donald-trump-president-a7406106.html
Becoming a Canadian Citizen:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/become.asp
Canada...you better start building a wall.
*packs truck*
Hilarious! :plus:
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
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Back to Massachusetts or up to Canada. Working on resumè now.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
WTF Something we agree on :green: I don't care for Trump but I wouldn't move to Canada to get away, he won and will soon be the President thats the way it works sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I did the the consolation prize of having the state next to mine legalize recreational marijuana :2thumbsup:
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Back to Massachusetts or up to Canada. Working on resumè now.
Lol, was talking to a coworker today (we're all freaked out) about how we'll still have a good healthcare system in MA... had to catch myself before phrasing it as "We'll still have our commie healthcare system anyway."
I am amused that you equate us with Canada; it's not without reason, lol.
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This is Russia's master plan to take over the US.
:zoinks:
(http://www.dailysquat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Coz_b_9XEAATTRl-646x437.jpg)
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:lol1: :plus:
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Back to Massachusetts or up to Canada. Working on resumè now.
Lol, was talking to a coworker today (we're all freaked out) about how we'll still have a good healthcare system in MA... had to catch myself before phrasing it as "We'll still have our commie healthcare system anyway."
I am amused that you equate us with Canada; it's not without reason, lol.
I am from there and "visit" all the time, so it has always been my destination. My friends that come down from Canada and meet me there always love it and say they feel like a home. Donuts on every corner and a well-educarpted hockey fanbase from an Original 6 team.
NOW THERE IS LEGAL WEED...NOT JUST POSSESSION OF A FEW OUNCES!!! GONNA NEED IT FOR 4 YEARS!!!
My friends in CO were able to get through this clusterfuck of a campaign and have the coping "skills" in place! :)
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Oh yeah, this presidential election is just like a football game. My team lost, big deal, just go home and stop crying about it. Right? Right?!? ::)
I, and probably half this country are FUCKING PISSED OFF that Donald Trump is "our" new president, Mike "cure the gay" Pence is the VP, and that the GOP will basically have this country all to themselves!!! Get ready to say goodbye to gay marriage, Obamacare, immigration reform, environmental regulations, net neutrality, marijuana legalization, etc. Get ready for tax cuts for the super-wealthy, stronger anti-libel laws, threats of nuclear war, increased racial and LGBTQ negativity, millions of immigrants being deported by force, increased abuse of government surveillance and law enforcement, and jobs NOT coming back, ever.
Let's not ignore that in the next 4 years, the USA will literally do NOTHING about climate change. NOTHING!!! The scientists of the world say that we need to fight back against climate change NOW! Not in 4 years...
I hope all of you Trump supporters are happy. I don't want to hear any complaining whatsoever from you guys in 4 years when he inevitably breaks his promises and you (and/or people you know) are in worse shape because of Trump, Pence, & Co.
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I don't want to hear any complaining whatsoever from you guys in 4 years when he inevitably breaks his promises and you (and/or people you know) are in worse shape because of Trump, Pence, & Co.
I think some of his supporters were actually explicitly expecting and hoping he would break some of his own promises. My worry is that he won't.
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I think you will all be okay America.
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I think you will all be okay America.
Probably.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
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I don't want to hear any complaining whatsoever from you guys in 4 years when he inevitably breaks his promises and you (and/or people you know) are in worse shape because of Trump, Pence, & Co.
I think some of his supporters were actually explicitly expecting and hoping he would break some of his own promises. My worry is that he won't.
:thumbup: and he has been previously for gay marriage and pro amnesty.
"I'm a registered Republican. I'm a pretty conservative guy. I'm somewhat liberal on social issues, especially health care, et cetera, but I'd be leaving another party, and I've been close to that party ... I think that nobody is really hitting it right. The Democrats are too far left. I mean, Bill Bradley, this is seriously left; he's trying to come a little more center, but he's seriously left. The Republicans are too far right. And I don't think anybody's hitting the chord, not the chord that I want hear, and not the chord that other people want to hear, and I've seen it."
Mr. TRUMP: I'd like to see major tax cuts.
PHILLIPS: Along the line, for what the Republicans are talking about eight hundred billion or so? Would you go that far?
Mr. TRUMP: Along the lines of that number, yes, approximately at that number, and could even be more.
PHILLIPS: Health care?
Mr. TRUMP: [I'm] liberal on health care, we have to take care of people that are sick.
PHILLIPS: Universal health coverage?
Mr. TRUMP: I like universal, we have to take care, there's nothing else. What's the country all about if we're not going to take care of our sick?
PHILLIPS: Abortion?
Mr. TRUMP: I hate the concept of abortion. I hate anything about abortion, and yet, I'm totally for choice. I think you have no alternative.
PHILLIPS: Gun control? Where do you stand on that?
Mr. TRUMP: If you could tell me that the bad guys, the criminals, wouldn't have guns, I'd be a hundred percent for gun control. But the fact is, if you have gun control, the only people that are going to obey the laws, are going to be the good guys. So the bad guys are going to have the guns, the good guys aren't going to have the guns, and what good does that do us? So, I'm not in favor of it.
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
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Oh yeah, this presidential election is just like a football game. My team lost, big deal, just go home and stop crying about it. Right? Right?!? ::)
I, and probably half this country are FUCKING PISSED OFF that Donald Trump is "our" new president, Mike "cure the gay" Pence is the VP, and that the GOP will basically have this country all to themselves!!! Get ready to say goodbye to gay marriage, Obamacare, immigration reform, environmental regulations, net neutrality, marijuana legalization, etc. Get ready for tax cuts for the super-wealthy, stronger anti-libel laws, threats of nuclear war, increased racial and LGBTQ negativity, millions of immigrants being deported by force, increased abuse of government surveillance and law enforcement, and jobs NOT coming back, ever.
Let's not ignore that in the next 4 years, the USA will literally do NOTHING about climate change. NOTHING!!! The scientists of the world say that we need to fight back against climate change NOW! Not in 4 years...
I hope all of you Trump supporters are happy. I don't want to hear any complaining whatsoever from you guys in 4 years when he inevitably breaks his promises and you (and/or people you know) are in worse shape because of Trump, Pence, & Co.
Since when has a politician ever kept their promise?
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
I think you are right in being scared. I know I am, and I can only imagine how I would feel if I lived in the US. :(
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
Apparent. Lots of reports of hate crimes to sell a narrative or lots of ACTUAL hate crimes?
http://klfy.com/2016/11/09/ul-student-fabricated-story-of-attack-robbery-by-trump-supporters-police-say/
All that happened is that Trump, a man with whom you have different political persuasion to, has been elected President of the United States of America. Nothing more than that.
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How many of these "hate crimes" will turn out to be convenient hoaxes? Here's one https://www.google.com/amp/hotair.com/archives/2016/11/10/police-reported-hate-crime-against-woman-in-muslim-headscarf-was-a-hoax/amp/?client=safari
This boy was beaten for voting trump while the teacher took their time getting the students off of him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=52EoprTSouU
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Here's another hoax
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/16/gay-pastor-admits-he-faked-homophobic-slur-on-whole-foods-cake/?client=safari
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
I think you are right in being scared. I know I am, and I can only imagine how I would feel if I lived in the US. :(
I'm a woman, but I'm also white, cis, straight, and live in a state that we're basically equating to Canada. (And, as I am physically unable to have kids, I won't be directly effected by anti-abortion legislation.) So I'm not so much scared for myself as I am for the people who are more vulnerable than I am, and feeling despair that I'm going to see their rights under the law greatly reduced or taken away, and that I'm going to see them become less safe regardless of their legal rights.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
WTF Something we agree on :green: I don't care for Trump but I wouldn't move to Canada to get away, he won and will soon be the President thats the way it works sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I did the the consolation prize of having the state next to mine legalize recreational marijuana :2thumbsup:
:thumbup:
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This is Russia's master plan to take over the US.
:zoinks:
(http://www.dailysquat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Coz_b_9XEAATTRl-646x437.jpg)
:rofl:
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
'Hate crimes'. So fucking retarded.
People are calling for Trump to be killed. I'm trying to find a category he can fit into so it'll be labelled a 'hate crime' if they do kill him. Maybe he's going a bit bald under that hair? Are bald men part of the hatecrimevictim community? Or do they have to be non white or previously been a women?
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I did the the consolation prize of having the state next to mine legalize recreational marijuana :2thumbsup:
It's a relief to all of us here in MA to have recreational marijuana legalized, as it was so very very difficult to get ahold of and get away with using before. :autism:
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
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I did the the consolation prize of having the state next to mine legalize recreational marijuana :2thumbsup:
It's a relief to all of us here in MA to have recreational marijuana legalized, as it was so very very difficult to get ahold of and get away with using before. :autism:
Really they don't do anything about it???
AMHERST — All that remains of the solitary marijuana plant an 81-year-old grandmother had been growing behind her South Amherst home is a stump and a ragged hole in the ground.
Link (http://www.gazettenet.com/MarijuanaRaid-HG-100116-5074664)
An average of 13 people per week face police harassment or arrest because of marijuana in the City of Boston alone, Boston Police Department data show. Today the ACLU released a live map showing where police incidents and arrests for marijuana take place in Boston. Using daily updated data from the Boston Police Department and the latest census information, the maps confirm state and nationwide trends: while all races of people smoke and sell marijuana at similar rates, marijuana enforcement is disproportionately concentrated in communities of color.
Link (http://www.weednews.co/aclu-new-map-shows-13-marijuana-incidents-and-arrests-in-boston-weekly/)
They decriminalized it here in Ct and your supposed to get a mail in ticket but generally the police try to twist it into something more say like arresting you for having drug paraphernalia if you have a bowl or bong.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
We're talking about your type that are on the streets setting fires and people online calling for Trump to be killed. Keep defending these thugs you hypocrite.
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
I think you are right in being scared. I know I am, and I can only imagine how I would feel if I lived in the US. :(
I'm a woman, but I'm also white, cis, straight, and live in a state that we're basically equating to Canada. (And, as I am physically unable to have kids, I won't be directly effected by anti-abortion legislation.) So I'm not so much scared for myself as I am for the people who are more vulnerable than I am, and feeling despair that I'm going to see their rights under the law greatly reduced or taken away, and that I'm going to see them become less safe regardless of their legal rights.
Who are you talking about then and how? Are they actually vulnerable or have they just been sold a narrative by ideologues?
I love seeing the Laci Green's of the world upset and going crazy online. These people are smug, righteous, ideologues that are pretty horrific people. They drive a lot of the worst excess of the narrative. I laughed my arse off seeing people like her unhappy about Hillary losing. BUT then I see this young black guy come on and and he says "Trump is President. Now I don't know what to do. I'm scared. I have never been to Africa and he wants to deport us there. I'm scared man"
Fucking really?
I initially scoffed at the absurdity and then the fun disappeared as I realised, this narrative came from somewhere and it sure as Hell was not Trump. Someone who knows better planted this idea that this guy was at risk of being banished into the continent of Africa to fend for himself. Someone who purported to be worried for this guy, who in reality JUST wanted their person to win and was happy to whip up a bit of fearmongering from the ignorant and the stupid.
Another person who was Latina was saying "NOOOO...we have to go. Trump is going to kill us. There all going to kill us now he is President"
Again, she got that somewhere and it sure as Hell was not Trump. The people who did this are responsible for the unrest, not Trump. The vulnerability is not real but I have NO doubt is very much felt. That is why I did not laugh at these poor people.
These people are manipulated by those that they trust and those that pretend to act in their best interest. Poisonous people. The hatred and fear for Trump is mostly misplaced.
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I think you will all be okay America.
There has been an immediate uptick in hate crimes, so we're already not "all" OK.
If Trump gets the chance to replace more supreme court justices than just Scalia, we're going to have a long wait to recover from what we will lose in terms of human rights, which could actually include roe v. wade and marriage equality.
A lot of us are extremely scared right now, for ourselves and for our loves ones.
I hope I am wrong, but I think you're not grasping the implications of what just happened here.
Apparent. Lots of reports of hate crimes to sell a narrative or lots of ACTUAL hate crimes?
http://klfy.com/2016/11/09/ul-student-fabricated-story-of-attack-robbery-by-trump-supporters-police-say/
All that happened is that Trump, a man with whom you have different political persuasion to, has been elected President of the United States of America. Nothing more than that.
Here is another
http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/2016/11/09/calgarian-in-santa-monica-assaulted-on-us-election-night.html
How many more are there and why are people buying it?
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I love how the two biggest Trump fans here don't even live in this country. :rofl:
No one remembers him shutting heat and water off to a bunch of tenants in the middle of the winter back in the 80's. I do.
I remember him on the Howard Stern show, I remember wife #1, #2, and #3's "modeling career"...and him making an ass out of himself for 20+ years. :trainwreck:
I really hope he does something right. Until then though, I will remain jaded and unimpressed. :yawn:
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Until then though, I will remain jaded
:eyelash:
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I love how the two biggest Trump fans here don't even live in this country. :rofl:
No one remembers him shutting heat and water off to a bunch of tenants in the middle of the winter back in the 80's. I do.
I remember him on the Howard Stern show, I remember wife #1, #2, and #3's "modeling career"...and him making an ass out of himself for 20+ years. :trainwreck:
I really hope he does something right. Until then though, I will remain jaded and unimpressed. :yawn:
Who are his fans on here?
As I put above I think he is probably somewhere between a monster and a saint. I have said I hate Hillary and I do.
I do think some of his policy ideas are okay. I don't know how they will translate in real terms and as policies. I do think that there is a lot more potential with him that HRC.
I also think he does give a stuff about his country.
Is he a nice man? No idea? Has he done bad things too? Yes. Has he done good things? Yes. Is he a flawed candidate? Yes.
Can he translate any of these things into meaningful and workable solutions that help america? No idea. But I am not as fearful of him failing as I was Hillary.
So that is a pretty middle of the road analysis AND opinion on Trump. But you were talking about Biggest supporters and so obviously not me. I don't know who the other contenders are?
Who did you mean and why and why do you find it funny?
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
We're talking about your type that are on the streets setting fires and people online calling for Trump to be killed. Keep defending these thugs you hypocrite.
I thought that was your type. No, sorry, you'd only do that to Muslims.
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I love how the two biggest Trump fans here don't even live in this country. :rofl:
This.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
We're talking about your type that are on the streets setting fires and people online calling for Trump to be killed. Keep defending these thugs you hypocrite.
I thought that was your type. No, sorry, you'd only do that to Muslims.
I do it when "Muslims" have been blown up or under decades of occupation and ethnic cleansing. These fucktards just didn't get the result they wanted. I'm sure you'd be sticking up for them if they were Trump supporters.
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
We're talking about your type that are on the streets setting fires and people online calling for Trump to be killed. Keep defending these thugs you hypocrite.
I thought that was your type. No, sorry, you'd only do that to Muslims.
I do it when "Muslims" have been blown up or under decades of occupation and ethnic cleansing. These fucktards just didn't get the result they wanted. I'm sure you'd be sticking up for them if they were Trump supporters.
Asra Q. Nomani is a former Wall Street Journal reporter and a co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement. She can be found on Twitter at @AsraNomani.
A lot is being said now about the “silent secret Trump supporters.”
This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman “of color” — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I’m not a “bigot,” “racist,” “chauvinist” or “white supremacist,” as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some “whitelash.”
In the winter of 2008, as a lifelong liberal and proud daughter of West Virginia, a state born on the correct side of history on slavery, I moved to historically conservative Virginia only because the state had helped elect Barack Obama as the first African American president of the United States.
After Hillary Clinton called Trump to concede, making him America’s president-elect, a friend on Twitter wrote a message of apology to the world, saying there are millions of Americans who don’t share Trump’s “hatred/division/ignorance.” She ended: “Ashamed of millions that do.”
That would presumably include me — but it doesn’t, and that is where the dismissal of voter concerns about Clinton led to her defeat. I most certainly reject the trifecta of “hatred/division/ignorance.” I support the Democratic Party’s position on abortion, same-sex marriage and climate change.
[Did you vote for Donald Trump? Tell us why.]
But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare. The president’s mortgage-loan modification program, “HOPE NOW,” didn’t help me. Tuesday, I drove into Virginia from my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., where I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration.
After Hillary Clinton called Trump to concede, making him America’s president-elect, a friend on Twitter wrote a message of apology to the world, saying there are millions of Americans who don’t share Trump’s “hatred/division/ignorance.” She ended: “Ashamed of millions that do.”
That would presumably include me — but it doesn’t, and that is where the dismissal of voter concerns about Clinton led to her defeat. I most certainly reject the trifecta of “hatred/division/ignorance.” I support the Democratic Party’s position on abortion, same-sex marriage and climate change.
[Did you vote for Donald Trump? Tell us why.]
But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare. The president’s mortgage-loan modification program, “HOPE NOW,” didn’t help me. Tuesday, I drove into Virginia from my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., where I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration.
After Hillary Clinton called Trump to concede, making him America’s president-elect, a friend on Twitter wrote a message of apology to the world, saying there are millions of Americans who don’t share Trump’s “hatred/division/ignorance.” She ended: “Ashamed of millions that do.”
That would presumably include me — but it doesn’t, and that is where the dismissal of voter concerns about Clinton led to her defeat. I most certainly reject the trifecta of “hatred/division/ignorance.” I support the Democratic Party’s position on abortion, same-sex marriage and climate change.
[Did you vote for Donald Trump? Tell us why.]
But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare. The president’s mortgage-loan modification program, “HOPE NOW,” didn’t help me. Tuesday, I drove into Virginia from my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., where I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration.
Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State. Of course, Trump’s rhetoric has been far more than indelicate and folks can have policy differences with his recommendations, but, to me, it has been exaggerated and demonized by the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, their media channels, such as Al Jazeera, and their proxies in the West, in a convenient distraction from the issue that most worries me as a human being on this earth: extremist Islam of the kind that has spilled blood from the hallways of the Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai to the dance floor of the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla.
Director of the Council on American–Islamic Relations, Nihad Awad, addressed the media following Donald Trump's election win Nov. 9. Awad said the group accepted the outcome of the election and reassured U.S. Muslims that America is their home. (Reuters)
In mid-June, after the tragic shooting at Pulse, Trump tweeted out a message, delivered in his typical subtle style: “Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn’t he should immediately resign in disgrace!”
Around then, on CNN’s “New Day,” Democratic candidate Clinton seemed to do the Obama dance, saying, “From my perspective, it matters what we do more than what we say. And it mattered we got bin Laden, not what name we called him. I have clearly said we — whether you call it radical jihadism or radical Islamism, I’m happy to say either. I think they mean the same thing.”
By mid-October, it was one Aug. 17, 2014, email from the WikiLeaks treasure trove of Clinton emails that poisoned the well for me. In it, Clinton told aide John Podesta: “We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL,” the politically correct name for the Islamic State, “and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”
The revelations of multimillion-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation from Qatar and Saudi Arabia killed my support for Clinton. Yes, I want equal pay. No, I reject Trump’s “locker room” banter, the idea of a “wall” between the United States and Mexico and a plan to “ban” Muslims. But I trust the United States and don’t buy the political hyperbole — agenda-driven identity politics of its own — that demonized Trump and his supporters.
I gently tried to express my thoughts on Twitter but the “Pantsuit revolution” was like a steamroller to any nuanced discourse. If you supported Trump, you had to be a redneck.
Related: Why this Frenchman plans to resist President Trump — by becoming a U.S. citizen
Days before the election, a journalist from India emailed me, asking: What are your thoughts being a Muslim in “Trump’s America”?
I wrote that as a child of India, arriving in the United States at the age of 4 in the summer of 1969, I have absolutely no fears about being a Muslim in a “Trump America.” The checks and balances in America and our rich history of social justice and civil rights will never allow the fear-mongering that has been attached to candidate Trump’s rhetoric to come to fruition.
What worried me the most were my concerns about the influence of theocratic Muslim dictatorships, including Qatar and Saudi Arabia, in a Hillary Clinton America. These dictatorships are no shining examples of progressive society with their failure to offer fundamental human rights and pathways to citizenship to immigrants from India, refugees from Syria and the entire class of de facto slaves that live in those dictatorships.
We have to stand up with moral courage against not just hate against Muslims, but hate by Muslims, so that everyone can live with sukhun, or peace of mind, I finished in my reflections to the journalist in India.
He didn’t get the email. I didn’t resend it, afraid of the wrath I’d receive. But, then, I voted.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?client=safari
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Oh, I'd like to flee to Canada. I'd LOVE to flee to Canada. Get the hell away from Trumpland. Or at least move to a more Democratic state.
But you only like democracy when you win?
A perk with democracy is to be allowed to bitch about it.
I don't think that includes arson and threatening to kill people though.
Give Trump some time and I'm sure his version will.
We're talking about your type that are on the streets setting fires and people online calling for Trump to be killed. Keep defending these thugs you hypocrite.
I thought that was your type. No, sorry, you'd only do that to Muslims.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6mh6-zhaB5w
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I love how the two biggest Trump fans here don't even live in this country. :rofl:
No one remembers him shutting heat and water off to a bunch of tenants in the middle of the winter back in the 80's. I do.
I remember him on the Howard Stern show, I remember wife #1, #2, and #3's "modeling career"...and him making an ass out of himself for 20+ years. :trainwreck:
I really hope he does something right. Until then though, I will remain jaded and unimpressed. :yawn:
I think I can relate to this view. However, and this is a view from afar of course, Trump is at least himself.....with all his idiosyncrasies. I had both hoped and expected Hillary Clinton to win, but have had an increasing impression that she is is like an ocean liner...there is a lot more to see beneath the waterline (that I am very suspicious of) than is visible above. By the same token, more than half the world seems to think that Britain (England & Wales at least) was mad to vote for Brexit, but again there are local truths. Both these decisions appear, on first study, to be crazy and dangerous, but time will tell......
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
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Were there riots in the streets when Obama was elected both times by anti Obama people? They weren't happy and they talked shit. I recall an assasination attempt by a Cletus looking guy but no psycho mobs throwing tantrums.
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yeah, I think that's right. :zoinks:
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Were there riots in the streets when Obama was elected both times by anti Obama people? They weren't happy and they talked shit. I recall an assasination attempt by a Cletus looking guy but no psycho mobs throwing tantrums.
Very good point
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
It's you and IceQueen doing all the harm, secretly encouraged by Her Majesty.
;)
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTqI_M_ERcs
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(https://pics.onsizzle.com/hate-crime-because-otherwise-we-might-think-that-murder-battery-2818022.png)
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:zoinks:
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/l/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13266889_1043778309036003_1440690515_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI2MzkzNDA0NDAwMjYxMTM3Nw%3D%3D.2)
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
It's you and IceQueen doing all the harm, secretly encouraged by Her Majesty.
;)
Can't we all just sit down and have some Scotch and get drunk like civilized people?
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
It's you and IceQueen doing all the harm, secretly encouraged by Her Majesty.
;)
Can't we all just sit down and have some Scotch and get drunk like civilized people?
No Scotch...please...no Scotch. :P
I'll bring my milk jug full of wine. :autism:
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ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM TRUMP ACCEPTANCE RESISTANCE DISORDER (TARD)
Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, uncontrollable crying, suicidal ideation, and extreme sadness.
Signs And Symptoms:
People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again. Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence.
According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms:
- Telling others they are moving to Canada
- Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College
- Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of
- Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something”
- Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative
- Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona
Causes And Mechanisms:
Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.
Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:
- Membership in the Democratic party
- Identifying as a Feminist
- Currently enrolled in college, and/or
- Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree
- Cuckoldry
- Living in a densely populated metropolitan area
- Massive student debt
- Spotty or non-existent work history
- Hipsterism
Diagnosis:
Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.
Treatment:
The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it. Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump.
Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.
If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!
http://m.disclose.tv/news/are_you_suffering_from_trump_acceptance_resistance_disorder_tard/136500?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fb_organic
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:lol1:
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
I am saying your lead example is wrong and proven wrong and there are others too.
I think on the whole the anti-Trump ARE the issue. You cannot EVER find a state or moment in time where there are NEVER outliers. Never a time where there are no bigots or vandals or unstable people.
So the "Ha, they are not the only ones" narrative is weak at best and disingenuous at the worse.
The vast majority of the issue is the Anti-Trump rioters. The people like this Muslim girl fabricating stories is not especially helpful either.
I was not wrong Odeon, you are.....again.
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California might become an option.
Tech founders want California to secede
Some big names in Silicon Valley have a simple message after Donald Trump's victory: We want out.
Shervin Pishevar, an early Uber investor and cofounder of Hyperloop, posted a series of tweets Tuesday night announcing his plans to fund "a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation."
And no, he's not joking.
"Yes it's serious," Pishevar told CNNMoney in an e-mail. "It's the most patriotic thing I can do. The country is [at] a serious crossroads."
Within hours, several other tech founders offered their support for the plan.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/technology/shervin-pishevar-california/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_tech_pool
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California is always trying to secede.
There have been more than 200 proposals for the secession of California over the state's history. Secession would require the approval of 38 state legislatures and two-thirds majorities in both the US House of Representatives and Senate,[6] to pass a Constitutional amendment, as the Constition provides no mechanism for state secession.[9] Analysts consider such an outcome improbable.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California
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California is always trying to secede. There have been more than 200 proposals for the secession of California over the state's history. Secession would require the approval of 38 state legislatures and two-thirds majorities in both the US House of Representatives and Senate,[6] to pass a Constitutional amendment, as the Constition provides no mechanism for state secession.[9] Analysts consider such an outcome improbable.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California
California is already it's own country isn't it? :LOL:
The earthquakes scare the hell out of me, but I'd like to see it.
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Even areas with a strong platform to secession, like Scotland and Quebec, don't manage to actually do it. California doesn't stand a chance.
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
I am saying your lead example is wrong and proven wrong and there are others too.
I think on the whole the anti-Trump ARE the issue. You cannot EVER find a state or moment in time where there are NEVER outliers. Never a time where there are no bigots or vandals or unstable people.
So the "Ha, they are not the only ones" narrative is weak at best and disingenuous at the worse.
The vast majority of the issue is the Anti-Trump rioters. The people like this Muslim girl fabricating stories is not especially helpful either.
I was not wrong Odeon, you are.....again.
Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
Poor Al. Always ready to look the other way.
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Even areas with a strong platform to secession, like Scotland and Quebec, don't manage to actually do it. California doesn't stand a chance.
Look what happened to the Soviet Union.
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ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM TRUMP ACCEPTANCE RESISTANCE DISORDER (TARD)
Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, uncontrollable crying, suicidal ideation, and extreme sadness.
Signs And Symptoms:
People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again. Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence.
According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms:
- Telling others they are moving to Canada
- Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College
- Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of
- Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something”
- Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative
- Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona
Causes And Mechanisms:
Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim.
Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:
- Membership in the Democratic party
- Identifying as a Feminist
- Currently enrolled in college, and/or
- Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree
- Cuckoldry
- Living in a densely populated metropolitan area
- Massive student debt
- Spotty or non-existent work history
- Hipsterism
Diagnosis:
Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.
Treatment:
The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it. Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump.
Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.
If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!
http://m.disclose.tv/news/are_you_suffering_from_trump_acceptance_resistance_disorder_tard/136500?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fb_organic
I hope this is a joke.
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I hope this is a joke.
It is.
"OH CRAP! WHAT NOW? SURVIVAL GUIDE"
(or formally known as: "The “Oh Shit! What Should I Do Before January?” Guide")
Welcome to the OH CRAP WHAT NOW SURVIVAL GUIDE, a crowdsourced collection of health, legal, and safety plans and resources + social, digital and economic security related resources urgent now as an outcome of the recent US election.
This is an attempt to start to bring together a lot of information regarding common concerns as we try to figure out wtf will actually happen and/or change in this new old world. What Trump has said he wants is not necessarily what he will do—or do right away—but we can make some guesses. It is to be expected that more information will follow and refine as we learn more.
Find it here:
http://www.theworldisaterribleplace.com/ohcrap/
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Even areas with a strong platform to secession, like Scotland and Quebec, don't manage to actually do it. California doesn't stand a chance.
The Civil War AKA the War of Succession ring a bell?
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Haha California, the Democrat state that hates democracy.
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John Oliver on President-elect Trump: 'How the [expletive] did we get here?'
"It's important to remember many people are happy to see him in office," Oliver said. "But for the rest of us, we are faced with the same questions as a guy that woke up the day after a Vegas bachelor party, deep in the desert, naked, tied to a cactus and a dead clown. Namely, how the [expletive] did we get here? And what the [expletive] do we do now?"
Oliver spent the whole broadcast on wide-ranging Trump topics that included everything from the promises Trump made on the campaign trail, which Oliver said sounded like the "to-do list on Satan's refrigerator, which of course Satan no longer needs because Hell has frozen over," to Trump randomly changing his mind on issues.
"Trump is like a Magic 8-Ball, every time you shake him he gives you a different answer," Oliver said.
The British comedian also took on the media's role in the election and the impact of fake news on social media.
"[Trump] came along and told millions of people every crazy email you've ever forwarded was true," Oliver said. "And that, at least in part, is why he will be our next president."
Oliver finished the episode by telling his audience to not move to Canada but rather "stay here and fight" by donating to organizations like Planned Parenthood, news outlets and "actively standing up for one another."
"It is going to be too easy for things to start feeling normal, especially if you are someone who is not directly impacted by his actions," Oliver added. "So keep reminding yourself. This is not normal."
:rofl:
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The guy's a moron. He has a lot to answer for.
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John Oliver that is.
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John Oliver on President-elect Trump: 'How the [expletive] did we get here?'
"It's important to remember many people are happy to see him in office," Oliver said. "But for the rest of us, we are faced with the same questions as a guy that woke up the day after a Vegas bachelor party, deep in the desert, naked, tied to a cactus and a dead clown. Namely, how the [expletive] did we get here? And what the [expletive] do we do now?"
Oliver spent the whole broadcast on wide-ranging Trump topics that included everything from the promises Trump made on the campaign trail, which Oliver said sounded like the "to-do list on Satan's refrigerator, which of course Satan no longer needs because Hell has frozen over," to Trump randomly changing his mind on issues.
"Trump is like a Magic 8-Ball, every time you shake him he gives you a different answer," Oliver said.
The British comedian also took on the media's role in the election and the impact of fake news on social media.
"[Trump] came along and told millions of people every crazy email you've ever forwarded was true," Oliver said. "And that, at least in part, is why he will be our next president."
Oliver finished the episode by telling his audience to not move to Canada but rather "stay here and fight" by donating to organizations like Planned Parenthood, news outlets and "actively standing up for one another."
"It is going to be too easy for things to start feeling normal, especially if you are someone who is not directly impacted by his actions," Oliver added. "So keep reminding yourself. This is not normal."
:rofl:
:LMAO:
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
I am saying your lead example is wrong and proven wrong and there are others too.
I think on the whole the anti-Trump ARE the issue. You cannot EVER find a state or moment in time where there are NEVER outliers. Never a time where there are no bigots or vandals or unstable people.
So the "Ha, they are not the only ones" narrative is weak at best and disingenuous at the worse.
The vast majority of the issue is the Anti-Trump rioters. The people like this Muslim girl fabricating stories is not especially helpful either.
I was not wrong Odeon, you are.....again.
Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
Poor Al. Always ready to look the other way.
This is Odeon logic.
Odeon "Al how can you not be offended by that poor young Muslim girl having her hijab grabbed and her watch and wallet stolen by two Caucasian Trump supporters"
Al "Because it was a fabricated story and the report here proves that she lied to the public but confessed to the police she made it up"
*Smug, condescension* Odeon "Oh Al you just look the other way when these things happen"
Here is the thing, there is no false equivalence and only a moron would think that there is.
Now you MAY and I repeat MAY have equivalency saying "IF Trump had lost you would get the same reaction as you are getting from the Liberals now that Hillary lost" Personally I do not think so because there was not that reaction when Obama won office, but you MAY be right or at least have a reasonable logical opinion.
You may also have a logical and reasoned opinion if you say "Okay OBVIOUSLY most people rioting and being asshats are up in arms over Hillary losing and Trump supporters are all happy and so are not likely to be complaining or do violent acts. Obviously that is going to mean most perpetrators are Hillary backers or anti-Trump people. Having said that, there may be a few cases in the mass where Trump supporters do bad things.
THAT would be a reasonable bet. That is not what you tried to do. You presented this as an equivalency and then backed your proposition with a claim that had already been proven to be wrong and now say I look the other way.
Hard to tell if you are being stupid, ignorant or dishonest. Which is it this time?
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So anyone who dares criticizes Trump has "a lot to answer for" and are full of shit?
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So anyone who dares criticizes Trump has "a lot to answer for" and are full of shit?
I would not say so. Plenty to critcise him on. There are certainly a lot of people who do criticise Trump AND have a lot to answer for AND are full of shit.
For example the MSNBC pushing a slimy narrative of (paraphrased) "Who knows where trump's racist deportation measures will end? He MAY conceivably deport African Americans to Africa" So some African Americans are legitimately terrified. It probably worked in getting them to the ballot box but the people like MSNBC are not now saying "Fuck! Did not work. Hey mate, don't worry about what I said about deporting you to Africa. I was lying. Trump is not going to do that. I just wanted to make sure you voted."
Some people terrified.
So yes the people saying things like that are completely full of shit and do have a lot to answer for.
A lot of the hysteria and false claims are the fault of the talking heads and media and such.
I will tell you another thing. Do not expect Trump supporters to extend the olive branch or try to heal the divide. They are angry with how they have been targeted and maligned and sacked from jobs, attacked. 18 months of that, they are pretty angry with these people that are full of shit and have a lot to answer for. They will exert pressure to hurt the Democratic party and every platform they supported as payback for how they were treated. I think media will start getting a lot of pressure too.
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So anyone who dares criticizes Trump has "a lot to answer for" and are full of shit?
Did I say that? But when a parasite like Oliver is focusing on Trump and completely ignoring Clinton because she's a Democrat, a woman and pretends to be for 'equality', when she's a million times worse, shows the kind of trash he is. But I guess idiots need someone to look up to. It seems with people like Oliver, because they come from a privileged background and got in the position they did through having Royal connections and famous musicians, they feel they have to be 'left wing' and make out they are against the establishment, and maybe they're too thick to understand, but he's part of the establishment.
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So anyone who dares criticizes Trump has "a lot to answer for" and are full of shit?
Yeah, I think that's right. :zoinks:
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
I am saying your lead example is wrong and proven wrong and there are others too.
I think on the whole the anti-Trump ARE the issue. You cannot EVER find a state or moment in time where there are NEVER outliers. Never a time where there are no bigots or vandals or unstable people.
So the "Ha, they are not the only ones" narrative is weak at best and disingenuous at the worse.
The vast majority of the issue is the Anti-Trump rioters. The people like this Muslim girl fabricating stories is not especially helpful either.
I was not wrong Odeon, you are.....again.
Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
Poor Al. Always ready to look the other way.
This is Odeon logic.
Odeon "Al how can you not be offended by that poor young Muslim girl having her hijab grabbed and her watch and wallet stolen by two Caucasian Trump supporters"
Al "Because it was a fabricated story and the report here proves that she lied to the public but confessed to the police she made it up"
*Smug, condescension* Odeon "Oh Al you just look the other way when these things happen"
Here is the thing, there is no false equivalence and only a moron would think that there is.
Now you MAY and I repeat MAY have equivalency saying "IF Trump had lost you would get the same reaction as you are getting from the Liberals now that Hillary lost" Personally I do not think so because there was not that reaction when Obama won office, but you MAY be right or at least have a reasonable logical opinion.
You may also have a logical and reasoned opinion if you say "Okay OBVIOUSLY most people rioting and being asshats are up in arms over Hillary losing and Trump supporters are all happy and so are not likely to be complaining or do violent acts. Obviously that is going to mean most perpetrators are Hillary backers or anti-Trump people. Having said that, there may be a few cases in the mass where Trump supporters do bad things.
THAT would be a reasonable bet. That is not what you tried to do. You presented this as an equivalency and then backed your proposition with a claim that had already been proven to be wrong and now say I look the other way.
Hard to tell if you are being stupid, ignorant or dishonest. Which is it this time?
You are all of those things, Al. First, the stupid generalisation. Then the ignorant dismissal (did you even read that article?). And finally the dishonest backpedaling.
You're such a sad case.
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Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-woman-robbed-hijab-donald-trump-maga-hat-president-supporter-louisana-a7410301.html
Why did you just post this?
Because you were wrong. Or are you saying that they are all lying?
I am saying your lead example is wrong and proven wrong and there are others too.
I think on the whole the anti-Trump ARE the issue. You cannot EVER find a state or moment in time where there are NEVER outliers. Never a time where there are no bigots or vandals or unstable people.
So the "Ha, they are not the only ones" narrative is weak at best and disingenuous at the worse.
The vast majority of the issue is the Anti-Trump rioters. The people like this Muslim girl fabricating stories is not especially helpful either.
I was not wrong Odeon, you are.....again.
Oh, so anti-Trump people are the only ones guilty of violence and property destruction?
Yes
Poor Al. Always ready to look the other way.
This is Odeon logic.
Odeon "Al how can you not be offended by that poor young Muslim girl having her hijab grabbed and her watch and wallet stolen by two Caucasian Trump supporters"
Al "Because it was a fabricated story and the report here proves that she lied to the public but confessed to the police she made it up"
*Smug, condescension* Odeon "Oh Al you just look the other way when these things happen"
Here is the thing, there is no false equivalence and only a moron would think that there is.
Now you MAY and I repeat MAY have equivalency saying "IF Trump had lost you would get the same reaction as you are getting from the Liberals now that Hillary lost" Personally I do not think so because there was not that reaction when Obama won office, but you MAY be right or at least have a reasonable logical opinion.
You may also have a logical and reasoned opinion if you say "Okay OBVIOUSLY most people rioting and being asshats are up in arms over Hillary losing and Trump supporters are all happy and so are not likely to be complaining or do violent acts. Obviously that is going to mean most perpetrators are Hillary backers or anti-Trump people. Having said that, there may be a few cases in the mass where Trump supporters do bad things.
THAT would be a reasonable bet. That is not what you tried to do. You presented this as an equivalency and then backed your proposition with a claim that had already been proven to be wrong and now say I look the other way.
Hard to tell if you are being stupid, ignorant or dishonest. Which is it this time?
You are all of those things, Al. First, the stupid generalisation. Then the ignorant dismissal (did you even read that article?). And finally the dishonest backpedaling.
You're such a sad case.
Okay you are not saying which you are.
That Muslim girl that was the lead story in the article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/
LIE!
That horrible photo of that gay gay that was jumped and hit over the head with a bottle and went to a nearby hospital and needed 5 staples in his head. Its terrible https://www.facebook.com/santamonicapd/posts/1248837835137297
LIE!
That was another one of the half a dozen instances in your Independent article. Are they ALL false? Give me a figure of the number of reports that are real? If you are promoting false reports (and Proven) false reports, I want you to tell me which of the reports ion that article are NOT false claims and how we know that? If not I do not want you being ridiculous enough to think that I would humour articles that are at least a little provably dishonest.
What i suspect IS going on is that there is NO upswing in racial abuse or attacks BUT people (especially Liberal minorities) having lost their political race and feeling a bit disenfranchised AND more importantly, feeling the effects of some ideologically driven fear mongering from the Liberal media and prominent Democrat talking heads, are feeling afraid. Because they are feeling afraid and disenfranchised, they are concocting these threat narratives as a way of coping with and expressing their fear.
Unfortunately a couple of them will get exposed and called on it and they will like false rape claims and any other false claims, make it that much more difficult for genuine claims to be recognised.
You may say, "So you are saying that they are all false? No I am saying bring me an example of the equivalency to what we can prove is coming from the Anti-trump supporters. You bring me a gay guy spreading plum jam over his head and saying he was jumped by Trump supporters and I will bring you http://wtnh.com/2016/11/12/pd-2-arrested-for-beating-up-man-holding-trump-sign/
See the difference?
Now I am not saying for a second that there is absolutely no incidences or evidence of any people who are Trump supporters doing anything wrong but you simply provide me stories in which any that are actually able to be evidenced, are exposed as lies.
I will say it again. There is no equivalence. Trying to pretend there is is dishonest and stupid. As proven above.
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Sorry, I can't be arsed to read through your effort at the moment. I'm sure it's a fine post, and I know you are very proud of your imagined wit, but considering it's bound to be full of your trademark failed hypotheticals, bigoted assumptions and the par-for-the-course dishonesty, I am going to skip it for now,
Feel free to continue, though.
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I will tell you another thing. Do not expect Trump supporters to extend the olive branch or try to heal the divide. They are angry with how they have been targeted and maligned and sacked from jobs, attacked. 18 months of that, they are pretty angry with these people that are full of shit and have a lot to answer for. They will exert pressure to hurt the Democratic party and every platform they supported as payback for how they were treated. I think media will start getting a lot of pressure too.
Where were all these poor mistreated people?
I'll tell you were they weren't, and that was around here.
75% of the rabid nutjobs were verbally attacking anyone who they even thought weren't voting for their new "savior". I spent 18 months staying silent and avoiding my neighbors and ducking behind displays in the damn grocery store just so I didn't have to listen to the "gospel of Trump".
Now it's over thank heavens and they are now gloating, rabid nutjobs. :LOL:
I hope he does something good, but deep down I will think he's a spoiled, over-privileged blooming idiot until proven otherwise. As for the nutjobs...lets just say this election has been an education as to the morality and beliefs of some of those I "thought" I knew.
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Sorry, I can't be arsed to read through your effort at the moment. I'm sure it's a fine post, and I know you are very proud of your imagined wit, but considering it's bound to be full of your trademark failed hypotheticals, bigoted assumptions and the par-for-the-course dishonesty, I am going to skip it for now,
Feel free to continue, though.
Shit effort Odeon.
Summarised:
You wished to make some larger point that Trump supporters are somehow comparable in their conduct with Hillary supporters that are going nuts rioting.
To do this you posted an articles that apart from vague non-evidenced hearsay, had two lead stories of violence. One of a poor Muslim girl attacked and robbed by Trump supporters and another of a gay guy apparently bottled at a pub and getting 5 staples in his head in a nearby hospital. YOUR article and YOUR choice to evidence this as a counter to my argument that there is no equivalency in the violence and criminality between the Trump supporters now they have won and Hillary supporters now they lost.
BOTH of those two stories with ANY evidence (or ability to confirm the validity of the stories) have been proved to be fabrications.
It torpedoes your shit efforts. Makes you a clown on top of everything else.
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I will tell you another thing. Do not expect Trump supporters to extend the olive branch or try to heal the divide. They are angry with how they have been targeted and maligned and sacked from jobs, attacked. 18 months of that, they are pretty angry with these people that are full of shit and have a lot to answer for. They will exert pressure to hurt the Democratic party and every platform they supported as payback for how they were treated. I think media will start getting a lot of pressure too.
Where were all these poor mistreated people?
I'll tell you were they weren't, and that was around here.
75% of the rabid nutjobs were verbally attacking anyone who they even thought weren't voting for their new "savior". I spent 18 months staying silent and avoiding my neighbors and ducking behind displays in the damn grocery store just so I didn't have to listen to the "gospel of Trump".
Now it's over thank heavens and they are now gloating, rabid nutjobs. :LOL:
I hope he does something good, but deep down I will think he's a spoiled, over-privileged blooming idiot until proven otherwise. As for the nutjobs...lets just say this election has been an education as to the morality and beliefs of some of those I "thought" I knew.
See the way I look at it. I remember when the right were fucking crazy. REALLY crazy. Liberals were accepting, open and about considering all things. The right were closed minded and would say shit things.
Now it HAS shifted and the traits found in the Conservatives of Yesteryear are now found in the left and visa versa.
The reason that I can see is it is dependent as to who has power. It has been the Liberal show for a long time. Liberals have been able to push their agendas and therefore not need to entertain other opinions and such. Conservative have had to be less closed shop and more open to discussing and compromising on things.
It is quickly swinging back to Conservatives. It will be getting better for a year or so and maybe good for a couple of years and then slowly it will go too far in favour of the Conservative and they will become the arseholes they were 5 or 6 years ago.
Around this time the moderate and non-judgmental, open, accepting Classical Liberal will return.
At this time I will be calling out the Conservatives and banging the drum for the Liberals.
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Another two fine posts, I gather. Well done.
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Year another one proven to be a hoax. :popcorn:
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/national/students-charged-painting-swastikas-trump-campus-chapel
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I will tell you another thing. Do not expect Trump supporters to extend the olive branch or try to heal the divide. They are angry with how they have been targeted and maligned and sacked from jobs, attacked. 18 months of that, they are pretty angry with these people that are full of shit and have a lot to answer for. They will exert pressure to hurt the Democratic party and every platform they supported as payback for how they were treated. I think media will start getting a lot of pressure too.
Where were all these poor mistreated people?
I'll tell you were they weren't, and that was around here.
75% of the rabid nutjobs were verbally attacking anyone who they even thought weren't voting for their new "savior". I spent 18 months staying silent and avoiding my neighbors and ducking behind displays in the damn grocery store just so I didn't have to listen to the "gospel of Trump".
Now it's over thank heavens and they are now gloating, rabid nutjobs. :LOL:
I hope he does something good, but deep down I will think he's a spoiled, over-privileged blooming idiot until proven otherwise. As for the nutjobs...lets just say this election has been an education as to the morality and beliefs of some of those I "thought" I knew.
:plus:
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
Yeah, I think that's right. :zoinks:
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Nobody knows yet who he's really going to appoint. He keeps switching it up. I'm not counting on anything for certain until he's actually in the office.
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
Of course you don't.
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
Of course you don't.
Correct
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
Of course you don't.
Correct
OMG they agree! :laugh:
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
Sadly, I didn't figure you would. :yawn:
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No one gonna complain about the fact that Steve Bannon, the former executive of Breitbart will become part of the Trump Admin?
I still can't believe that one. :facepalm2:
If that didn't speak volumes to people nothing will I guess.
I see no issue with that
Sadly, I didn't figure you would. :yawn:
What was the issue then? I see no conflict of interest now he has suspended his dealings with Breitbart. I know Breitbart is a Republican rag but that to me is like saying New York Post is a Liberal rag. Having different opinions is no bad thing. That Bannon is seen as a Cheif Strategist? I think that position is well suited. I would say Kellyanne Conway could have done equally as well. I have no doubt that she will get a really good appointment. I see no foul.
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I did the the consolation prize of having the state next to mine legalize recreational marijuana :2thumbsup:
It's a relief to all of us here in MA to have recreational marijuana legalized, as it was so very very difficult to get ahold of and get away with using before. :autism:
Really they don't do anything about it???
AMHERST — All that remains of the solitary marijuana plant an 81-year-old grandmother had been growing behind her South Amherst home is a stump and a ragged hole in the ground.
Link (http://www.gazettenet.com/MarijuanaRaid-HG-100116-5074664)
An average of 13 people per week face police harassment or arrest because of marijuana in the City of Boston alone, Boston Police Department data show. Today the ACLU released a live map showing where police incidents and arrests for marijuana take place in Boston. Using daily updated data from the Boston Police Department and the latest census information, the maps confirm state and nationwide trends: while all races of people smoke and sell marijuana at similar rates, marijuana enforcement is disproportionately concentrated in communities of color.
Link (http://www.weednews.co/aclu-new-map-shows-13-marijuana-incidents-and-arrests-in-boston-weekly/)
They decriminalized it here in Ct and your supposed to get a mail in ticket but generally the police try to twist it into something more say like arresting you for having drug paraphernalia if you have a bowl or bong.
Fair point; it'll help make the enforcement of drug laws less racist.
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Very true. What I find interesting is the number of Jewish figures that are coming out supporting Bannon and saying he is not at all Anti-Semitic. Even Ben Shapiro who loathes him and was fired by him can't bring himself to say so.
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Drug laws are "racist"? Maybe more black people commit crimes that involve drugs?
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Donald Trump wants to kill off Net Neutrality. Without the Net Neutrality ruling from the FCC, ISP's like ATT and Comcast will be free to prioritize traffic of whatever Internet content they want. For instance, Netflix will stop buffering all the time while Hulu will be completely fine.
Left wing sources
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/politics/trump-campaigned-against-lobbyists-now-theyre-on-his-transition-team.html?_r=0
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/10/net-neutrality-has-a-big-target-on-its-back-under-trump-administration-analysts-say/
Wrong wing source
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/11/10/trump-win-means-fcc-net-neutrality-regulation-dead/
Straight from the horse-faced's mouth
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/532608358508167168
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I really wish Melania would shove his cell phone up his ass and twitter rant about it already...I'm sure it would make half of America feel better.
He's been making a complete ass out of himself on Twitter again lately. ::)
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I really wish Melania would shove his cell phone up his ass and twitter rant about it already...I'm sure it would make half of America feel better.
He's been making a complete ass out of himself on Twitter again lately. ::)
Just assume that's not really him.
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I really wish Melania would shove his cell phone up his ass and twitter rant about it already...I'm sure it would make half of America feel better.
He's been making a complete ass out of himself on Twitter again lately. ::)
Just assume that's not really him.
If it's not than I'll say they sure have his MO right... down to his spelling errors. :zombiefuck:
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Four years of this.
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Four years of this.
Maybe eight?
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Four years of this.
Maybe eight?
One debacle at a time, please. :GA:
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
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Four years of this.
Maybe eight?
Is that your hope, Al?
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I hope he goes and lives with Al. :-*
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I hope he goes and lives with Al. :-*
It'd be a buddy comedy for the ages! Like the Lethal Weapon franchise all over again! :laugh:
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I hope he goes and lives with Al. :-*
It's be a buddy comedy for the ages! Like the Lethal Weapon franchise all over again! :laugh:
They can take over the world together. :thumbup:
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I hope he goes and lives with Al. :-*
It'd be a buddy comedy for the ages! Like the Lethal Weapon franchise all over again! :laugh:
They can take over the world together. :thumbup:
Trump will be ranting and foaming, and Al will be yelling, "I'm getting too old for this shit!" :laugh:
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Four years of this.
Maybe eight?
Is that your hope, Al?
No just putting it out there that its a possibility. Remember he was said to have a 1% chance.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvvQWHnWAAATwBG.jpg)
Now people say he will only be there for 1 term. Clinton was a 2 term so was Bush and so was Obama. Trump may be too.
Personally I think he will be 74 and ready to retire.
This is Obama after 7 years in office
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Four years of this.
Maybe eight?
Is that your hope, Al?
No just putting it out there that its a possibility. Remember he was said to have a 1% chance.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvvQWHnWAAATwBG.jpg)
Now people say he will only be there for 1 term. Clinton was a 2 term so was Bush and so was Obama. Trump may be too.
Personally I think he will be 74 and ready to retire.
This is Obama after 7 years in office
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He's going to need a lot of orange spray tan to combat the aging effects of being president. :zoinks:
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http://theslot.jezebel.com/here-s-what-donald-trump-would-look-like-without-his-ma-1769171918
Personally I prefer the purple. :zoinks:
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Violet! You're turning violet, Violet.
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
War? :laugh:
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
War? :laugh:
The twitter trail of Trump's butt hurt.
The king was "offended" the cast of Hamilton may have addressed his mighty minion Pence
"inappropriately" and made him "uncomfortable".
The theater should always be a "safe and special place".
Pence though, set a good example and handled it like a pro. Maybe he'll learn something from him.
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
War? :laugh:
The twitter trail of Trump's butt hurt.
The king was "offended" the cast of Hamilton may have addressed his mighty minion Pence
"inappropriately" and made him "uncomfortable".
The theater should always be a "safe and special place".
Pence though, set a good example and handled it like a pro. Maybe he'll learn something from him.
He sent Steve Bannon the next night :laugh:
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
War? :laugh:
The twitter trail of Trump's butt hurt.
The king was "offended" the cast of Hamilton may have addressed his mighty minion Pence
"inappropriately" and made him "uncomfortable".
The theater should always be a "safe and special place".
Pence though, set a good example and handled it like a pro. Maybe he'll learn something from him.
He sent Steve Bannon the next night :laugh:
Nothing like sending your big brother in to scare the kid that called you a pussy during lunchtime. :lol1:
He needs to get over this shit. This is America, people will and always have said what they like here. If he tries to push control, or tries to dictate what people should say, and when and where they say it, and to whom they say it to...that will be his biggest undoing.
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Four years of this.
If he makes it through...the psychics are predicting impeachment. :exorcism:
I may not believe in all that fluff, but I'll be silently cheering in their corner regardless.
If he keeps being the embarrassment he is to us all I may start praying :voodoo:
Following his war with a Broadway show, I wouldn't be surprised. He is an embarrassment to every sentient being.
War? :laugh:
The twitter trail of Trump's butt hurt.
The king was "offended" the cast of Hamilton may have addressed his mighty minion Pence
"inappropriately" and made him "uncomfortable".
The theater should always be a "safe and special place".
Pence though, set a good example and handled it like a pro. Maybe he'll learn something from him.
He sent Steve Bannon the next night :laugh:
Nothing like sending your big brother in to scare the kid that called you a pussy during lunchtime. :lol1:
He needs to get over this shit. This is America, people will and always have said what they like here. If he tries to push control, or tries to dictate what people should say, and when and where they say it, and to whom they say it to...that will be his biggest undoing.
No it was to generate moral outrage. He did not want anyone to dwell on Trump University settlement until it became old news.
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This country will only work with a true balance of left leaning and right leaning influences offsetting each other.
Think of it as a see saw. The only point that is real in this country is the fulcrum; that is what we all count on everyday. Going up and down, either side, is what we have always done. One side legs up and the other side has its feet off the ground, then it is the other ones turn to leg up.
We have taken a great long sway (to the left) in one direction lately and naturally, it is time for the pendulum, the force of the populace, to swing things back the other way for a while. Some will not like it (I personally object to the whining) any more than the last time it took a swing in the other direction.
We wobble, but ...
:cbc:
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No it was to generate moral outrage. He did not want anyone to dwell on Trump University settlement until it became old news.
For once I think you're very right.
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This country will only work with a true balance of left leaning and right leaning influences offsetting each other.
Think of it as a see saw. The only point that is real in this country is the fulcrum; that is what we all count on everyday. Going up and down, either side, is what we have always done. One side legs up and the other side has its feet off the ground, then it is the other ones turn to leg up.
We have taken a great long sway (to the left) in one direction lately and naturally, it is time for the pendulum, the force of the populace, to swing things back the other way for a while. Some will not like it (I personally object to the whining) any more than the last time it took a swing in the other direction.
We wobble, but ...
:cbc:
Yup, that is my reading. I like to think of myself as Classical Liberal in the Dave Rubin kind of style. The Progressives have corrupted and co-opted the Liberal side and it has been too Leftist. The Conservatives that I always viewed as completely crazy bible-thumping gun crazy nutbags have had to become more and more sane and reasonable, to the point that the contrast between the left and right has flipped and the Left is a crazy ideological identity policing PC moralising bunch of losers.
So yes I am inclined to view the right a LOT more favourably and yes they are a lot more accepting.
Now Trump has power, the next 4 years will dismantle the Leftist/Liberal agenda and that power will be siphoned away. What will start coming out are more moderate voices and reasonable dialogue from the Left. It will take a few years to happen. While this is happening, the Right will become eventually power mad and start pushing their right wing agendas and dial them to about 11.
They will start becoming the arseholes they were in the 1990's and 2000's. It will happen. I am sure it will happen.
Then The Left will be the place I remember and I will defend them again the nutbag rabid Right.
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No it was to generate moral outrage. He did not want anyone to dwell on Trump University settlement until it became old news.
For once I think you're very right.
I am always right. I make a lot of sense.
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No it was to generate moral outrage. He did not want anyone to dwell on Trump University settlement until it became old news.
For once I think you're very right.
I suspect it was simply a case of butthurt at the right moment.
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This country will only work with a true balance of left leaning and right leaning influences offsetting each other.
Think of it as a see saw. The only point that is real in this country is the fulcrum; that is what we all count on everyday. Going up and down, either side, is what we have always done. One side legs up and the other side has its feet off the ground, then it is the other ones turn to leg up.
We have taken a great long sway (to the left) in one direction lately and naturally, it is time for the pendulum, the force of the populace, to swing things back the other way for a while. Some will not like it (I personally object to the whining) any more than the last time it took a swing in the other direction.
We wobble, but ...
:cbc:
Great post, DirtDawg.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
Saw that this morning. I think an investigation is warranted if that is the case. Whether it will change anything. :dunno:
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
Saw that this morning. I think an investigation is warranted if that is the case. Whether it will change anything. :dunno:
I very much doubt it, but it's something that should be looked into, if only to confirm that everything was in order.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
Saw that this morning. I think an investigation is warranted if that is the case. Whether it will change anything. :dunno:
I very much doubt it, but it's something that should be looked into, if only to confirm that everything was in order.
It's America. Nothing is ever in order. :zoinks:
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/index.html
Saw that this morning. I think an investigation is warranted if that is the case. Whether it will change anything. :dunno:
I very much doubt it, but it's something that should be looked into, if only to confirm that everything was in order.
She will not be keen on that. George Soros owns the company that makes most of these machines. IF they have been hacked (and its quite possible) then the likelihood is that they will be hacked to favour Clinton. Mind you I do not care personally.
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
There's always Mexico....and we'll have a wall to keep in the tequila.
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
There's always Mexico....and we'll have a wall to keep in the tequila.
There is already one on the southern border
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
There's always Mexico....and we'll have a wall to keep in the tequila.
There is already one on the southern border
Nope. :zoinks:
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
Nope. :P
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Is there, by chance, a part of canada that's sunny and warm year-round?
There's always Mexico....and we'll have a wall to keep in the tequila.
There is already one on the southern border
Nope. :zoinks:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790116/Mexico-wants-build-border-wall-Central-America-illegal-immigrants.html
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He said there was already one there. :dunno:
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He said there was already one there. :dunno:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/07/25/mexican-newspaper-build-trump-style-wall-central-america/
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He said there was one already there. :dunno:
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The article referenced in breitbart mysteriously vanished, but I found it with the way back machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20161114112808/http://www.elmanana.com/sialmurofronterizo%E2%80%A6peroenelsurdemexico-3351816.html
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I had google translate this to English
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He said there was one already there. :dunno:
“Mexico’s southeast has two borders; one with Guatemala and one with Belize, that do not provide any benefit, but on the contrary only problems are brought by these crossing points that are being used for the new invasion. The one use by Central American’s looking for a way into the United States. ” El Mañana’s editorial board wrote.
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That article still doesn't say Mexico has a wall across the southern border, only that they would like to build one. Like the US, there are high traffic entry points with fences, but no, their southern boarder isn't secure in any way. They may in fact build a wall or put up more fencing, and Americans are probably going to pay for it. They have almost 100 million from the Obama administration given to them for securing their southern border. They don't currently have a wall on their southern border. Nope. :dunno:
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That article still doesn't say Mexico has a wall across the southern border, only that they would like to build one. Like the US, there are high traffic entry points with fences, but no, their southern boarder isn't secure in any way. They may in fact build a wall or put up more fencing, and Americans are probably going to pay for it. They have almost 100 million from the Obama administration given to them for securing their southern border. They don't currently have a wall on their southern border. Nope. :dunno:
So why get upset at Trumps wall comments?
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That article still doesn't say Mexico has a wall across the southern border, only that they would like to build one. Like the US, there are high traffic entry points with fences, but no, their southern boarder isn't secure in any way. They may in fact build a wall or put up more fencing, and Americans are probably going to pay for it. They have almost 100 million from the Obama administration given to them for securing their southern border. They don't currently have a wall on their southern border. Nope. :dunno:
So why get upset at Trumps wall comments? Not to mention it's much harder to get into Mexico than to get into the US.
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That article still doesn't say Mexico has a wall across the southern border, only that they would like to build one. Like the US, there are high traffic entry points with fences, but no, their southern boarder isn't secure in any way. They may in fact build a wall or put up more fencing, and Americans are probably going to pay for it. They have almost 100 million from the Obama administration given to them for securing their southern border. They don't currently have a wall on their southern border. Nope. :dunno:
So why get upset at Trumps wall comments?
I don't think I have. What did I say? :tard:
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That article still doesn't say Mexico has a wall across the southern border, only that they would like to build one. Like the US, there are high traffic entry points with fences, but no, their southern boarder isn't secure in any way. They may in fact build a wall or put up more fencing, and Americans are probably going to pay for it. They have almost 100 million from the Obama administration given to them for securing their southern border. They don't currently have a wall on their southern border. Nope. :dunno:
So why get upset at Trumps wall comments?
I don't think I have. What did I say? :tard:
I'm not talking about you. But the people whining about it constantly. Also I can't read al swearingens mind and since he is sinbinned he can't respond here anymore.
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A sad day for I2!
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He had it coming. Being sinbinned isn't the end of the world.
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He had it coming. Being sinbinned isn't the end of the world.
He seems to be shrugging it off anyway.
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Re Trump's wall: I think people are upset because of a) how he labelled Mexicans and b) because he wanted Mexico to pay for the wall.
I guess quite a few also think that he is a moron for proposing one in the first place.
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Re Trump's wall: I think people are upset because of a) how he labelled Mexicans and b) because he wanted Mexico to pay for the wall.
I guess quite a few also think that he is a moron for proposing one in the first place.
That, and not to mention it's geographically just about impossible in some places.
Not upset, just find it ridiculous and a promise made with hot air that has about a 2% chance of being fulfilled.
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2%? That might be overly optimistic.
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2%? That might be overly optimistic.
Yep, I think so too, but I figured it sounded nicer. :zoinks:
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It did sound nice. :)