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Title: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 08:44:13 AM
OK, here's my sad story: This morning I could not access any sites on my computer, kept getting IE error messages saying something like "google.ihc is not an item." (Google was my homepage, ya see!) So I called HP tech support (my PC is a Compaq that I've had less than a year; I'll add the model and serial numbers later if that helps).

So the tech guy talked me through the steps of resetting things, so now everything works. Then he told me that he thinks I have a virus that is affecting many computers and causing eventual crashing. He said that for $99 I could have a tech guy at HP remote-access and tune up my computer to rid it of this virus and make it run faster.  :orly:

Does this sound legit? $99 is 1/4 to 1/3 of what I paid for the entire PC! I mentioned that I don't have a credit card, so the tech guy just told me to call later, dunno how I would pay for this tune-up. What do you guys think? I am suspicious, maybe rightly so, maybe not.  :-\
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: 'andersom' on July 14, 2010, 08:47:57 AM
Are you running any virus-scans on your PC?

(One n00b asking the other)  :asthing:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 08:54:51 AM
Are you running any virus-scans on your PC?

(One n00b asking the other)  :asthing:

I have Trend Micro installed, it's supposed to be complete security software.
One of the young geeks at the electronics store recommended it!  :asthing:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: 'andersom' on July 14, 2010, 08:57:15 AM
OK, here's my sad story: This morning I could not access any sites on my computer, kept getting IE error messages saying something like "google.ihc is not an item." (Google was my homepage, ya see!) So I called HP tech support (my PC is a Compaq that I've had less than a year; I'll add the model and serial numbers later if that helps).

So the tech guy talked me through the steps of resetting things, so now everything works. Then he told me that he thinks I have a virus that is affecting many computers and causing eventual crashing. He said that for $99 I could have a tech guy at HP remote-access and tune up my computer to rid it of this virus and make it run faster.  :orly:

Does this sound legit? $99 is 1/4 to 1/3 of what I paid for the entire PC! I mentioned that I don't have a credit card, so the tech guy just told me to call later, dunno how I would pay for this tune-up. What do you guys think? I am suspicious, maybe rightly so, maybe not.  :-\

My BS radar is ringing loudly, but, I am a n00b, just like you.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
OK, here's my sad story: This morning I could not access any sites on my computer, kept getting IE error messages saying something like "google.ihc is not an item." (Google was my homepage, ya see!) So I called HP tech support (my PC is a Compaq that I've had less than a year; I'll add the model and serial numbers later if that helps).

So the tech guy talked me through the steps of resetting things, so now everything works. Then he told me that he thinks I have a virus that is affecting many computers and causing eventual crashing. He said that for $99 I could have a tech guy at HP remote-access and tune up my computer to rid it of this virus and make it run faster.  :orly:

Does this sound legit? $99 is 1/4 to 1/3 of what I paid for the entire PC! I mentioned that I don't have a credit card, so the tech guy just told me to call later, dunno how I would pay for this tune-up. What do you guys think? I am suspicious, maybe rightly so, maybe not.  :-\

My BS radar is ringing loudly, but, I am a n00b, just like you.

*nods* Just as well I didn't get the tune-up done today. Soon the geeks will weigh in!  :viking:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: Icequeen on July 14, 2010, 09:34:36 AM
Holy fuck!  :zombiefuck:

And to think I do this for free for the neighbors.

What anti-virus are you running? AVG is a good free one.

Try runnig Malwarebytes anti-malware (free version) you can download it here.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php)

I normally start with that and go from there.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: Icequeen on July 14, 2010, 09:37:46 AM
Are you running any virus-scans on your PC?

(One n00b asking the other)  :asthing:

I have Trend Micro installed, it's supposed to be complete security software.
One of the young geeks at the electronics store recommended it!  :asthing:

Didn't see this, doesn't matter, alot of them just won't pick up some of the rougue programs, adware, & trojans you run across now.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Holy fuck!  :zombiefuck:

And to think I do this for free for the neighbors.

What anti-virus are you running? AVG is a good free one.

Try runnig Malwarebytes anti-malware (free version) you can download it here.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php)

I normally start with that and go from there.

Thank you very much! FWIW, I have Trend Micro, and a geek friend elsewhere just linked me to the Trend Micro community forums,
and the exact error message I received is mentioned there. The resetting done by the tech guy at HP seems to have fixed things for the time being,
but I will definitely try everyone's suggestions from here before agreeing to a $99 tune-up!

Also,  :plus: for helping your neighbors, maybe you should charge!
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 09:40:45 AM
Are you running any virus-scans on your PC?

(One n00b asking the other)  :asthing:

I have Trend Micro installed, it's supposed to be complete security software.
One of the young geeks at the electronics store recommended it!  :asthing:

Didn't see this, doesn't matter, alot of them just won't pick up some of the rougue programs, adware, & trojans you run across now.

Will running the Malwarebytes disrupt the Trend Micro stuff?
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: Icequeen on July 14, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Malwarebytes is a good program to run every once in awhile, just make sure to update it after you install. I normally select full system scan and walk away (it will take awhile), it shows the infected files after it's finished and gives you an option to remove.


It shouldn't bother Trend Micro, you may have to give it permission to run depending on your settings.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 09:52:27 AM
Malwarebytes is a good program to run every once in awhile, just make sure to update it after you install. I normally select full system scan and walk away (it will take awhile), it shows the infected files after it's finished and gives you an option to remove.


It shouldn't bother Trend Micro, you may have to give it permission to run depending on your settings.

Thank you very much, will do that when I get home.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: Icequeen on July 14, 2010, 10:28:23 AM
How to on reseting your browser settings (should you ever need it again).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737)
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: SBI_Patience on July 14, 2010, 12:09:24 PM
Are you running any virus-scans on your PC?

(One n00b asking the other)  :asthing:

I have Trend Micro installed, it's supposed to be complete security software.
One of the young geeks at the electronics store recommended it!  :asthing:

Didn't see this, doesn't matter, alot of them just won't pick up some of the rougue programs, adware, & trojans you run across now.

Will running the Malwarebytes disrupt the Trend Micro stuff?

No, not at all. However this is the best software there is that can actually get rid of malwares and spywares (and adwares) and actually is most affective at actually killing thee viruses, and its free to download as Icequeen said.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2010, 03:25:27 PM
OK, here's my sad story: This morning I could not access any sites on my computer, kept getting IE error messages saying something like "google.ihc is not an item." (Google was my homepage, ya see!) So I called HP tech support (my PC is a Compaq that I've had less than a year; I'll add the model and serial numbers later if that helps).

So the tech guy talked me through the steps of resetting things, so now everything works. Then he told me that he thinks I have a virus that is affecting many computers and causing eventual crashing. He said that for $99 I could have a tech guy at HP remote-access and tune up my computer to rid it of this virus and make it run faster.  :orly:

Does this sound legit? $99 is 1/4 to 1/3 of what I paid for the entire PC! I mentioned that I don't have a credit card, so the tech guy just told me to call later, dunno how I would pay for this tune-up. What do you guys think? I am suspicious, maybe rightly so, maybe not.  :-\

I think this is a script problem, basically something that causes IE to stop running scripts, one way or another. An update could have caused this. Did you update any part of Windows or IE right before this started happening?

I had a look and found this (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=4baf4cae368c4172&hl=en). Here's what you should try:

Quote
We tried some isolations of the plugins that had to do with Trend Micro and Guarded ID.  By disabling the following, we were able to get this script error to go away.
"Trend Micro Toolbar" and "TSToolbar BHO"

This is a variation of the same thing:

Quote
It seems to be the Trend Micro "Page Rating" feature!!
 
I had three computers that suffered the problem this morning!!  After much head-scratching I found that when I moved the mouse pointer over the desired Google search site, that I would get the IE script error, and not have access to the site.  However, if I went to a sub-catagory and clicked on it, I could access that site.  Working with the three computers, I pin-pointed the page rating feature as the problem.  It can be disabled on the Trend Micro toolbar.

This would indicate that it's a problem caused directly or indirectly by TrendMicro. If you continue to have problems, it might be wise to replace TrendMicro with AVG. Also, do NOT install toolbars and other additions by TrendMicro, AVG or others.

And also, it might be wise to give Firefox a try. It's less sensitive to this kind of thing.

And no, you shouldn't pay HP money because they should have known that this is a scripting problem, not a virus. If you continue to have problems or need help, just give me a shout and I'll do what I can to help you fix this.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 03:33:09 PM
OK, here's my sad story: This morning I could not access any sites on my computer, kept getting IE error messages saying something like "google.ihc is not an item." (Google was my homepage, ya see!) So I called HP tech support (my PC is a Compaq that I've had less than a year; I'll add the model and serial numbers later if that helps).

So the tech guy talked me through the steps of resetting things, so now everything works. Then he told me that he thinks I have a virus that is affecting many computers and causing eventual crashing. He said that for $99 I could have a tech guy at HP remote-access and tune up my computer to rid it of this virus and make it run faster.  :orly:

Does this sound legit? $99 is 1/4 to 1/3 of what I paid for the entire PC! I mentioned that I don't have a credit card, so the tech guy just told me to call later, dunno how I would pay for this tune-up. What do you guys think? I am suspicious, maybe rightly so, maybe not.  :-\

I think this is a script problem, basically something that causes IE to stop running scripts, one way or another. An update could have caused this. Did you update any part of Windows or IE right before this started happening?

I had a look and found this (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=4baf4cae368c4172&hl=en). Here's what you should try:

Quote
We tried some isolations of the plugins that had to do with Trend Micro and Guarded ID.  By disabling the following, we were able to get this script error to go away.
"Trend Micro Toolbar" and "TSToolbar BHO"

This is a variation of the same thing:

Quote
It seems to be the Trend Micro "Page Rating" feature!!
 
I had three computers that suffered the problem this morning!!  After much head-scratching I found that when I moved the mouse pointer over the desired Google search site, that I would get the IE script error, and not have access to the site.  However, if I went to a sub-catagory and clicked on it, I could access that site.  Working with the three computers, I pin-pointed the page rating feature as the problem.  It can be disabled on the Trend Micro toolbar.

This would indicate that it's a problem caused directly or indirectly by TrendMicro. If you continue to have problems, it might be wise to replace TrendMicro with AVG. Also, do NOT install toolbars and other additions by TrendMicro, AVG or others.

And also, it might be wise to give Firefox a try. It's less sensitive to this kind of thing.

And no, you shouldn't pay HP money because they should have known that this is a scripting problem, not a virus. If you continue to have problems or need help, just give me a shout and I'll do what I can to help you fix this.

Thank you very much! I think I did update Windows, possibly IE as well, but I didn't take notice of when I did that in relation to when the trouble started.
What about the Trend Micro updates that are regularly offered? Should I accept those?


 
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2010, 03:38:28 PM
Well, you should always accept your antivirus software's updates (that is, if you know that the updates are from them) but it is conceivable that they caused this. It happens, unfortunately. If that is the case, they will most likely push out a fix before long.

As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

In the meantime, try installing Firefox if you don't already have it. See if the problem goes away. Then you'll know that it's an IE/Windows problem.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
Well, you should always accept your antivirus software's updates (that is, if you know that the updates are from them) but it is conceivable that they caused this. It happens, unfortunately. If that is the case, they will most likely push out a fix before long.

As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

In the meantime, try installing Firefox if you don't already have it. See if the problem goes away. Then you'll know that it's an IE/Windows problem.

So far everything is working fine. I have heard I can try Firefox without uninstalling IE, I just don't want to disrupt anything.  :chin:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Well, you should always accept your antivirus software's updates (that is, if you know that the updates are from them) but it is conceivable that they caused this. It happens, unfortunately. If that is the case, they will most likely push out a fix before long.

As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

In the meantime, try installing Firefox if you don't already have it. See if the problem goes away. Then you'll know that it's an IE/Windows problem.

So far everything is working fine. I have heard I can try Firefox without uninstalling IE, I just don't want to disrupt anything.  :chin:

You won't. You can run as many browsers as you like and the only thing that will happen is that they'll all want you to choose their product as your default browser, which basically means that their software is used whenever you click a link.

You won't disrupt anything, though. See it as a second opinion - if IE misbehaves, give Firefox a try and vice versa.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
Well, you should always accept your antivirus software's updates (that is, if you know that the updates are from them) but it is conceivable that they caused this. It happens, unfortunately. If that is the case, they will most likely push out a fix before long.

As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

In the meantime, try installing Firefox if you don't already have it. See if the problem goes away. Then you'll know that it's an IE/Windows problem.

So far everything is working fine. I have heard I can try Firefox without uninstalling IE, I just don't want to disrupt anything.  :chin:

You won't. You can run as many browsers as you like and the only thing that will happen is that they'll all want you to choose their product as your default browser, which basically means that their software is used whenever you click a link.

You won't disrupt anything, though. See it as a second opinion - if IE misbehaves, give Firefox a try and vice versa.

Excellent! I will try when I have more time!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Tell us how it worked out when you have. :)
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 14, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
Tell us how it worked out when you have. :)

Thank you, I will!  :viking:

Thanks to all the people who saved me from getting conned out of $99!
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: 'andersom' on July 14, 2010, 04:19:01 PM
Tell us how it worked out when you have. :)

Thank you, I will!  :viking:

Thanks to all the people who saved me from getting conned out of $99!

You can now treat us all to something nice in the what are you drinking thread, with the money you just saved.  :tea: :fiveshots: :wine: :beergrin: :beer: :whatthe: :scotch: :coffee:
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: Icequeen on July 14, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

Usually you will have an option you can uncheck to not install them, seems like every program you get comes bundled with the damn things.

Last computer the neighbor found curbside had a bunch of adware and 5 toolbars running in IE, only a year or so old, but it was slowed down with all that crap on it to the point that someone just obviously got fed up and tossed it.
Title: Re: nOOb seeks advice!
Post by: odeon on July 14, 2010, 04:28:05 PM
As for toolbars and such: remember that many of these companies offer a toolbar of some sort when you install for the first time. Doesn't mean you need it, only that they struck a deal with Yahoo or someone else.

Usually you will have an option you can uncheck to not install them, seems like every program you get comes bundled with the damn things.

Last computer the neighbor found curbside had a bunch of adware and 5 toolbars running in IE, only a year or so old, but it was slowed down with all that crap on it to the point that someone just obviously got fed up and tossed it.

I'm fed up with them. I always uncheck them. Don't understand why they are there to begin with, especially when they come bundled with AV software (AVG comes with the Yahoo toolbar if I recall correctly).