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Title: The admin forum
Post by: Peter on April 11, 2006, 03:59:33 AM
My, what dirty little secrets you have in there!

Peter - as anti-philosophy winner
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 11, 2006, 05:41:50 AM
yes we know.

can you believe the rift.
and we put on such a brave face.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 11, 2006, 05:43:42 AM
Well if prince Charles and Diana can put on an act for all those years then we can at least give it a go.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: purposefulinsanity on April 11, 2006, 06:08:04 AM
My, what dirty little secrets you have in there!

Peter - as anti-philosophy winner

  So spill the beans- are the rumours of the all-night sex parties going on in there true??
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Peter on April 11, 2006, 06:16:04 AM
My, what dirty little secrets you have in there!

Peter - as anti-philosophy winner

  So spill the beans- are the rumours of the all-night sex parties going on in there true??

Well, the subject headings include 'bum', 'cock' and 'fucking', there's links to 'good stuff', and there's plenty of evidence of rampant corruption.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 11, 2006, 06:22:24 AM
what does dunc smell like when he comes home from there?
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: purposefulinsanity on April 11, 2006, 06:35:44 AM
what does dunc smell like when he comes home from there?

Strangely like peanut butter
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Merry Widow on April 12, 2006, 03:15:27 PM
peter, what are your thoughts on mcjagger's nude pictures? i thought that they were quite tastefully done, myself.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 12, 2006, 03:34:31 PM
What is this wank

Do we really need to have this lame exclusive hidden forum, its sounding like Wrong Planet for gawds sake didn't we get away from this more "mod"er then thought attitude
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Peter on April 12, 2006, 03:49:15 PM
peter, what are your thoughts on mcjagger's nude pictures? i thought that they were quite tastefully done, myself.

They were very... satisfying.

Hmmm... I think I should wash these trousers now.

What is this wank

Do we really need to have this lame exclusive hidden forum, its sounding like Wrong Planet for gawds sake didn't we get away from this more "mod"er then thought attitude

You could always take it up in the voting booth if you want it changed.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 12, 2006, 04:03:11 PM
What is this wank

Do we really need to have this lame exclusive hidden forum, its sounding like Wrong Planet for gawds sake didn't we get away from this more "mod"er then thought attitude

gotta have a little mystery.

want to know the main difference between here and WP?
if one of the administrators absolutely fucks up big time, we won't all circle around them in support.  we will not justify each others actions which are over the line or in your words; wank.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Postperson on April 12, 2006, 05:16:15 PM
oh i see, so this thread is supposed to generate envy and exitement over the 'hidden' admin thread that Pete won access to at the chocolate wheel.

Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: El on April 12, 2006, 08:36:56 PM
SO is there a thread in it: " PEOPLE ON HERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SMACK BUT CANNOT AS AN ADMIN" like there was on WP when I was a mod?
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 12, 2006, 10:11:38 PM
uh, nope.

the reason for not smacking is because we have no talent at it.  though we may try, our limitations are obvious.

that is, except for eamonn.  eamonn is good at talking trash.
oh, and, omega_female is cunning and clever as well.
i guess you could say that dunc could hold his own, but a little more mature version.

that leaves me.  though i try, my limitations are obvious.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 13, 2006, 03:08:58 AM
SO is there a thread in it: " PEOPLE ON HERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SMACK BUT CANNOT AS AN ADMIN" like there was on WP when I was a mod?

I dont need to leave that for the admin forum, im the great equaliser. Id like to smack some sense into Teejay and Sorceresspool and although i dont dislike him id like to smack the weirdness out of Nomaken, Peter Mac could do with an old one-two to lose his smug preoccupation with himself and his looks, oh and McJagger could do with a good slap as well just to see who's boss around here, theres a few more that wouldnt do any harm to have backhander from me till they see sense....!? :police:? JOOI, did i feature on anyone's list on wp?
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Postperson on April 13, 2006, 03:32:00 AM
well the whole point of this forum is that we bitch about each other openly rather than privately, so it's good to see eamo making it real. Anything they say there is probably evident in their forum posts anyway....uh I think it's a beat-up and there's nothing terribly exciting in there.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 13, 2006, 05:47:20 AM
SO is there a thread in it: " PEOPLE ON HERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SMACK BUT CANNOT AS AN ADMIN" like there was on WP when I was a mod?

I dont need to leave that for the admin forum, im the great equaliser. Id like to smack some sense into Teejay and Sorceresspool and although i dont dislike him id like to smack the weirdness out of Nomaken, Peter Mac could do with an old one-two to lose his smug preoccupation with himself and his looks, oh and McJagger could do with a good slap as well just to see who's boss around here, theres a few more that wouldnt do any harm to have backhander from me till they see sense....!? :police:? JOOI, did i feature on anyone's list on wp?
this proves it.
eamonn is intimidated by the ladies, also.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:14:11 AM
Oh no here we come

Take the scott off the control panels, the scottish haven't been in charge of their country for 200+ years for a reason, nothings changed to give them any responsibility now. And the playtime/scottish parliment doesn't count
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 13, 2006, 10:46:14 AM
Ahem, isnt Gordon Brown running the whole of Britain right now, our iron chancellor.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 10:58:07 AM
Ahem, isnt Gordon Brown running the whole of Britain right now, our iron chancellor.

Who is about as British in roots as me
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 13, 2006, 11:09:00 AM
So are most Scot's, your point? Anyway the Scottish Parliament runs most home affairs, i see it as a step towards full independance. THen like the Republic of Ireland, we shall have higher living standards and leave the sassenachs well behind. ;D
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: peegai on April 13, 2006, 11:17:24 AM
So are most Scot's, your point? Anyway the Scottish Parliament runs most home affairs, i see it as a step towards full independance. THen like the Republic of Ireland, we shall have higher living standards and leave the sassenachs well behind. ;D

Which means you guys will be speaking more G?idhlig (Scottish Gaelic) than English to empathise more on the devolution of the United Kingdom of Great Britain to become an independant state.

I should learn my ancestral language someday -- for teh lulz.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 13, 2006, 11:27:48 AM
Nah, we will probably still speak almost exclusively English as it has become the most widely used language in the world and Gaelic sounds a bit harsh, like they have got marbles in their mouths.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: peegai on April 13, 2006, 11:36:02 AM
Nah, we will probably still speak almost exclusively English as it has become the most widely used language in the world and Gaelic sounds a bit harsh, like they have got marbles in their mouths.

Have you been taught any Gaelic, Eamonn? Tell me some phrases, bitch!
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: BIG EAMONN! on April 13, 2006, 11:47:53 AM
I wasnt taught any gaelic in school but have heard a couple of Irish gaelic phrases off me da. Go n-ithe an cat thu is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat. It's missing any language marks though.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 02:48:36 PM
So are most Scot's, your point? Anyway the Scottish Parliament runs most home affairs, i see it as a step towards full independance. THen like the Republic of Ireland, we shall have higher living standards and leave the sassenachs well behind. ;D

Your financial and economic survival is tied to this union, when you tried your hand at trying to run with the big boys it bankrupted your country. In modern economics ireland is an insignificant backwater and scotland has serious socio-economic problems that simply will not be solved over night.

I actually really would like to see Scotland be independant due to the fact your second in the league of most fucked by the british empire after the welsh and Irish but It just isn't going to happen in the near future and the scottish national party have lost any resemblance of respect they had in the past. Nevermind i guess really what you need is all the scotts that have gained the wealth and immigrated to come back and start clearing out the ghetto's 
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 02:54:11 PM
Your an ignorant shit. Ireland is economically richer than England per capita. Scotland will enjoy similar success once she gets full independance. England is overran by greedy Jew bankers plundering any riches and skinhead hooligans causing trouble. What a shithole. :P
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 04:17:59 PM
Your an ignorant shit. Ireland is economically richer than England per capita. Scotland will enjoy similar success once she gets full independance. England is overran by greedy Jew bankers plundering any riches and skinhead hooligans causing trouble. What a shithole. :P

Scotland and Ireland have sizeable jewish populations as well for that matter

You  can't escape the Zion posse

Ireland has persude an economic policy which is quite sensible for a country of its size and population, but its about as rich as a backwater as its ever going to get an is a completly insignificant country about on the same par and influence as Iceland
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 04:22:47 PM
I dont know, Ireland is the the computer manufacturing capital of Europe. It has a lot going for it and if this whole Iran thing blows up il be moving there to escape the draft so it is very significant to me ;) What's so big and imortant about Britain anymore, since theyve lost the Empire all they are is the smithers to the USA's Mr Burns.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 13, 2006, 04:32:02 PM
so that's where america is utilizing its slave labor.
shame on us.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 04:33:03 PM
I dont know, Ireland is the the computer manufacturing capital of Europe. It has a lot going for it and if this whole Iran thing blows up il be moving there to escape the draft so it is very significant to me ;) What's so big and imortant about Britain anymore, since theyve lost the Empire all they are is the smithers to the USA's Mr Burns.

The USA is great Britain in all but name, they follow the same core values and beliefs as the British Empire held from the enlightenment and liberal thought that  came from the conversion to the protestant faith. So really its just a continuation of something no european power has come close to immitating since the Roman era. Maybe we are a repeat of the imperial era of roman History with the US being the new Byzantium and Britain being the Old decaying western half of the empire

Im sure Ireland is a nice place to live, its got beautiful countryside fantastic geography, rains alot but still. The Irish are just one of the smaller european cultures that have etched out a niche for themselves in the european economy and have a history of being subjegated, exploited and fought for the bigger powers. Maybe on the bright side its good you are a backwater country or you'd of ended up like one of the Balkan countries or a culture like the slovaks
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 04:46:24 PM
Britain also has a history of being taken over by the Normans romans (who couldnt take Scotland) and even by us Scots, the first king of Britain was king of Scotland first. The Scots and the Irish have brought more in the way of technology, intelectuals, poets and inventors than the much bigger England has. You seem to far overrate the British so called 'Empire'. They werent around long enough or powerful enough to be ranked alongside other great empires like the roman one. Even France and Spain had similar and at one point bigger Empires. LMAO @ the desperate attempts to big up the old failing protestant little England arrogance that left you with a little country that is the US's bitch now.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 05:10:03 PM
Britain also has a history of being taken over by the Normans romans (who couldnt take Scotland) and even by us Scots, the first king of Britain was king of Scotland first. The Scots and the Irish have brought more in the way of technology, intelectuals, poets and inventors than the much bigger England has. You seem to far overrate the British so called 'Empire'. They werent around long enough or powerful enough to be ranked alongside other great empires like the roman one. Even France and Spain had similar and at one point bigger Empires. LMAO @ the desperate attempts to big up the old failing protestant little England arrogance that left you with a little country that is the US's bitch now.

The Spanish, Portuguese and French Empires were no way near the same size as the British Colonial Empire, nor have their cultural identities such as their language become significant world wide establishments. English is the 2nd most common spoken language on this planet for a reason.

The Bretons who were forced out by the Angles and Saxons, then the vikings who were then defeated by a Saxon king then by a Norman, indirectly Viking King is fine by me because guess what. I am Norman and my surname is a Norman name making me have nordic origins and lets face it you pansy boy celts were nothing compared to the picts who even the romans feared, and guess who they bowed and scraped and paid tribute too for 3 centuries? The Saxon kingdom of Northumbria HAHAHAA!!!  ;D So yeah 3 centuries of cock sucking anglo-saxons before the well cultured vikings show up in 1066 and PWN the saxons

When my decendants landed on this island and won the battle of Hastings we took this country in the right direction or it would of remained a battlefield between the Nordic and Gaelic teams.

You over rate Ireland to a point were insecurity of your heritage seeps through. Yes youve got all these bards and songs and writings, dance and culture that go back several 1000 years or so. But you were all too eager to throw your religion in the trash bin...a jewish sect known as christianity came on the scene and suddenly your all devout catholics, sir francis of a ceecee indeed, bloody tree hugging hippy no wonder you celts liked him.

For the record the only nation to of had a bigger empire on this planet then the United Kingdom was probably the Mongolian Khanite and even then that lasted what? A century at best though it was crumbling as soon as Ghengas died. French Empire? Didn't make them enough money and they got PWND by the people they conquered. Spain and Portugal...well Portugal practically lost it all after the Napoleonic wars, Spain had a good start but began a rapid decent into decline at a time when we thrived.

Every generation has its Greeks and Romans as the saying goes.

The United States was founded by people who prided themselves as being British Citizens and upholding traditional British Values who saw their government back home as somewhere which had lost its way and become tainted in greed. Its a fundamental point that you miss the significance of the kind of ideological thought that came from the Englightenment period of history which shines through in your argument and irrationale attempt to winde up someone based on my nationlistic pride, ive only one grand parent who has a history in this country so im hardly one to be "rule britannia" on everyones ass
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 05:13:12 PM
I also blame Ireland for Guinesses
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 05:31:12 PM
Shut up Jew boy, Ireland has held on to catholicism all this time whereas the British sheep changed religions to suit the crown. Look how long it took the Jews to get a home for themselves. The British Empire was one that couldlnt take over Nepal and your trying to make out that they owned the world. They crumbled everytime there was serious opposition. Germany could have wiped both sides of your ancestory off the map if it was a straight fight between them. The US had a very mixed uprising, there was plenty of French, Irish and Scottish people fighting on both sides. England (like Israel now) was just a country that had been took over without any fight so always take might to mean right without any opposition. They are uncle toms who decided to be the big boys after theie owners faded away.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 05:52:41 PM
Shut up Jew boy, Ireland has held on to catholicism all this time whereas the British sheep changed religions to suit the crown. Look how long it took the Jews to get a home for themselves. The British Empire was one that couldlnt take over Nepal and your trying to make out that they owned the world. They crumbled everytime there was serious opposition. Germany could have wiped both sides of your ancestory off the map if it was a straight fight between them. The US had a very mixed uprising, there was plenty of French, Irish and Scottish people fighting on both sides. England (like Israel now) was just a country that had been took over without any fight so always take might to mean right without any opposition. They are uncle toms who decided to be the big boys after theie owners faded away.

Ah so you worship the wannabe jew religion, gotta love the sado-masachism and rampant irish priest peadofilia that goes hand in hand with that. The whole ancient alien ideology is only 150 years old anyway theres actually a moral, ethical and theological debate within the jewish community whether a jewish state is an act of heresy. Infact some Rabbie preach not to vote in Israeli elections and claim that the Torah forbids a ancient alien state in the first place so there you go but I wouldn't get yourself involved in jewish politics its an absolute mess and a minefield of ideology. Shame the good name of jews is being tarnished by the IDF commiting acts that Stalin and Hitler would approve.

The Supposed British sheep had alot of conflict that went on right till the end of Charles II with regards to the conversion to Protestant, so yeah the population really took it down easy bud. Thats what? 300 years of internal strife? Yeah easy change that was, what have the Irish done apart from fight each other or fight other people they never met for the British? Yeah thats about the highlight of Irelands achievements being the bully boys for the British Empire. There have been intellectuals of Scottish, Welsh, Irish, English and many other nationalities within this country who have contributed to the progress of technology and the understanding of science nicely Asshimilated by the British into their scheme of things (bit like the romans there) The yanks have taken this a step further, practically the only 100% sole americain invention is Evaporated milk, thats it.

Im suprised you mentioned Nepal, why not Afghanistan (see the modern link) or the Zulu war (guys with guns get PWND by spearmen)

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Germany could have wiped both sides of your ancestory off the map if it was a straight fight between them

 ;D The logic breaks down here bud. Germans, well seeing as the modern state of germany is 150 years old and before then was a confederation and before then was a loose coalition of dutchies etc they took awhile getting their act together. And Germany also includes ...well hold on Angles and Saxons (Saxony anyone?) So they score an own goal there really. An WTF do you mean by a "straight fight" i mean since when has war been fair and evenly balanced for a start. See maybe this is why the irish never won anything meaningful in the last 1000 years apart from a friendly in Football  :laugh:
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 06:05:33 PM
Now to the issue of Military achievements. The army has always been 2nd rate compared to the Navy, and as an Island nation it kinda saves us alot of money and cleaning up job if we stop the invaders landing on the shore by sinking them at sea, maybe Ireland could of learned that lesson, but oh no least said for the Irish Navy.

Nah the British Army has only really been a superior force at about one moment in history and that was just prior to the napoleonic wars, also around the time we had one of our best Generals too. After the modern German state was created the Prussian military traditions held alot of influnece in the way there army was organised and built so in military terms they were pretty much the top dog right till world war 2 ended. Incidents like the charge of the light brigade in the crimea war (first multi-national military force operation) and the entire Great war experiance pretty much gave the army a good kick up the arse it deserved not to mention all the colonial fuck ups in Africa and India. The german army from the war with france in the 19th century upon german unification founded by Otto Von Bismark was the pioneer in military tactics right through to world war 2, however as a naval power they could never succesfully compete with Britain for an empire
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 06:20:57 PM
THe British got their religion changed for them every time a royal decided it so. Ireland and some Scottish islands were the only areas of the UK to resist that to this day. The IRA were the most advanced guerilla army of their day. The Americans in their war of independance (and British in ww2) admired and copied these tactics. Worldwide resistance groups have copied and recieved training from the Provisional IRA. I dont think that Jews have ever had a good name anywhere as far as i can recall.

NAme a great man or woman in history and chances are you will find Irish heritage in the mix somewhere ( Che Gueverra and Mohhamed Ali, for instance ). What i meant about the Germans and British having a straight fight (and i think you know this smartass) is that the British would have got owned if WW2 was just between tham and the jerrys. The Republic of Ireland beat England at more than a friendly, like in the football European championship of 1988 they beat them 1-0, for instance. Let's take things closer to home. My family has a proud history of fighting both for and against the British crown (in ww2 when it was for a greater good, they wouldnt fight for the brits in other circumstances). Their exploits have been documented in both books and newspapers. Im glad i have had a traditional ?Roman Catholic and Celtic minded upbringing as it has stood me in good stead to have manners. Most of the protestants, Jews and muslims im surrounded by seem to lack this gentlemanly conduct, they are more like animals. 8)
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 06:53:08 PM
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I dont think that Jews have ever had a good name anywhere as far as i can recall.

Ah the old anti-semite is coming out of you
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 06:55:58 PM
Oh right, you can slag off the dirty Irish to the high heavens but the Jews are untouchable. Sorry if this upsets you but i dont do PC to keep up with the Jones's.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 07:23:48 PM
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THe British got their religion changed for them every time a royal decided it so

The state religion was protestant from the time of Henry VIII, I can think of times of crisis were the monarch tried to bring the country back towards catholic influence but didn't quite work for one reason or another and half the time was opposed by their own subjects.

After the civil war got rid of Charlie mk 1 charlie mk2 and his kid james tried to one last time bring things back catholic and thats where we all got fed up and just made parliment have more power then he did knocked off the stewarts and we got the current German line. So it didn't really change with each head of state there were just some that thought they could convert the majority of their kingdom back to catholic and they found out otherwise. The power of the soveriegn was never as overwhelming as say the Tsar of Russia in running the state after Henry VIII despite the attempts of some

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The Americans in their war of independance (and British in ww2) admired and copied these tactics. Worldwide resistance groups have copied and recieved training from the Provisional IRA.

And the IRA didn't just invent those tactics overnight Gurillia warfare is discussed in depth in the Sun Tzu and is a military tactic which spans most of human history. Don't tell me an Irishman went across the silk road and bought a copy to take back home with him, Guinesses does its magic again.

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NAme a great man or woman in history and chances are you will find Irish heritage in the mix somewhere ( Che Gueverra and Mohhamed Ali, for instance )

Mohamed Ali was a draft dodger who could punch someone in a ring....fantastic feat of achievement there

old Che as much as i love the fella didn't really get anywhere in what he was trying to do for south america, hell he buggered off to the carribean

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What i meant about the Germans and British having a straight fight (and i think you know this smartass) is that the British would have got owned if WW2 was just between tham and the jerrys

Well from mid 1940 to june 1941 it was just them and Germany and if that was the case then the Afrika Korps should of been driving all the way to Baghdad (common theme going on there) but aye they got PWND at el Alamaine

but ok lets got with a scenario its just germany and england 1939 go....Kriegsmarine absolutely tiny compared to the royal navy armed forces can't walk water even with air superiority an invasion of britain is not achievable due to the overwhelming strength the royal navy has so it wouldn't be that exciting a war, italy wouldn't be involved so no rommel in afrika so a pretty stale mate boring war really.

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Let's take things closer to home. My family has a proud history of fighting both for and against the British crown (in ww2 when it was for a greater good, they wouldnt fight for the brits in other circumstances). Their exploits have been documented in both books and newspapers.

Oh no a family dick whagging contest.

Ironically theres alot of fighting in my family too and not on the sides you think. Well being a decendant of william the conqueror and my family name at its peak being a nobl household which controlled the counties known as Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire involved in alot of fighting the war of the roses and also in trying to undermine the tudor kings to bring back a Norman ruler and Oliver Cromwell was part of the family tree, good buddy of ours shame we ultimatly lost that one but its all written in various books about the family (and catholic oh the irony)., having a decendant who emmigrated to the united states and co-founded General Motors in detroit and a host of other enterpreneurs (SP?) various locations around the states named after my ancestors,

Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 07:39:26 PM
I think your doing a fair bit of twisting facts there , Praetor. The anglo-saxons have changed from catholic to protestant to back again and so forth on the whim of the monarch. The guerilla tactics werent magicked up by the Irish but it is well documented that the likes of Churchill and other leaders of ground warfare, were in admiration of the IRA's tactics and learned from them. They are the most succesful small civilian army in history in regards to pioneering techniques and execution of these techniques.

Your denigration of the skillful art of boxing and of the achievements of people like Mohhamed Ali and Che Gueverra have confirmed to me that you know shit about reality. Just because you can do more in the way of wining wars and tasks with computer men than these people done in real life doesnt mean that you have a grasp on the reality of greatness. You seem to be a bit quiet on the warriors that your family has produced in the last century, care to elaborate?
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: McGiver on April 13, 2006, 08:00:58 PM
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Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:01:18 PM
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think your doing a fair bit of twisting facts there , Praetor. The anglo-saxons have changed from catholic to protestant to back again and so forth on the whim of the monarch

A twist of facts does not mean going against what your IRA information pamphlet says  :laugh:
You clearly over simplify this period of time, religious beliefs were a very serious issue and just because a king or queen either secretly or in some cases openly was catholic did not mean the entire heard swapped at whim. The conversion to the protestant and abandonment of the catholic church and the destruction of the monastaries was not some kind of switch that could be clicked back and forth like a light bulb its a complex event that has had a profound effect on this country. The protestants were already entrenched in England before this and they simply became the minority with the power and privelages and people slowly swapped over to this faith and catholicism became the minority. When catholic monarchs tried to reverse this process they would meet resistance from not only the population but also within the courts and politics and eventually the ideologies that came along from it began to change the society along with it.

Ironically the catholics efforts are what eventually lead to the parliment of this country having more power then the monarch and the sovereign becoming the figurehead that exists today with no real power. The people of this country were just fed up with the stewarts and went for some german protestant instead.

Thats not some twist of facts that some cold blooded realities of the world of the 14th-17th century

Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:03:03 PM
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documented that the likes of Churchill and other leaders of ground warfare, were in admiration of the IRA's tactics and learned from them

Churchill ground warfare? He was head of the admirality for a start ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 08:10:57 PM
THe fact is that the brits got told what religion to follow with their monarch and the majority followed with that, unlike the Irish. There was some resistence of the conversion to the protestant faith when king Henry the 8th was refused another marriage from the pope so decided that the whole country should turn protestant to suit him and his new bit of skirt. The English followed with power because that's what they do.

I meant to say that the IRA's ground warfare and sabotage tactics were admired by leaders such as Churchill and used in ww2.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:16:24 PM
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Your denigration of the skillful art of boxing

Brain bashing for entertainment

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They are the most succesful small civilian army in history in regards to pioneering techniques and execution of these techniques.

In what respect, I find that a very pompous claim when there are 1000's of such conflict in history some of which have been even more succesful such as the complete exlpulsion of the invading japanese from Korea in the middle ages through the armed resistance of its civilians even when the army was decimated. Not to mention the resistance of ancient Judea to Babylon occupation.

For a start im not really sure how the IRA have "won" any kind of conflcit. The british still control northern ireland, Ireland itself doesnt want anything to do with it and you're going nowhere fast with this parliment. The English arn't exactly suffering day to day with the plight of Ireland and Gurillea warfare hasn't really changed that much since ancient times so im not sure what pioneering techniques your refering too. Though if pioneering techniques involves removing the voice box of Ian paisely im all for it.

I guess if your not fighting each other theres nothing much to do or talk about in ireland besides get drunk and dance and as Homer once wrote "Men tire of love and dance but not war" or something along those lines
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Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:17:38 PM
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I meant to say that the IRA's ground warfare and sabotage tactics were admired by leaders such as Churchill and used in ww2.

Ego commando's then
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 08:26:08 PM
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Your denigration of the skillful art of boxing

Brain bashing for entertainment

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They are the most succesful small civilian army in history in regards to pioneering techniques and execution of these techniques.

In what respect, I find that a very pompous claim when there are 1000's of such conflict in history some of which have been even more succesful such as the complete exlpulsion of the invading japanese from Korea in the middle ages through the armed resistance of its civilians even when the army was decimated. Not to mention the resistance of ancient Judea to Babylon occupation.

For a start im not really sure how the IRA have "won" any kind of conflcit. The british still control northern ireland, Ireland itself doesnt want anything to do with it and you're going nowhere fast with this parliment. The English arn't exactly suffering day to day with the plight of Ireland and Gurillea warfare hasn't really changed that much since ancient times so im not sure what pioneering techniques your refering too. Though if pioneering techniques involves removing the voice box of Ian paisely im all for it.

I guess if your not fighting each other theres nothing much to do or talk about in ireland besides get drunk and dance and as Homer once wrote "Men tire of love and dance but not war" or something along those lines

Ireland won the republic back, that was a conflict they won, dummy. The English would be suffering day to day if they didnt back down on a lot of things. The pioneering techniques of the Republican Army (both old and new) are well documented. They have used high succes rate tacticts with  guerilla warfare techniques that have left the world in awe. They are the most technologically and tactically advanced civilian group this century, they have had engineers make bombs that are more sophisticated than you could hope to learn. How original are your comments about the Irish driinking and fighting, I think your trying to sell me a watch there, it's the English who are the drunken hooligans who have the worst reputation in Europe for football violence. You wouldnt understand the art or bravery involved in boxing so there is no point in going there.
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Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:40:25 PM
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THe fact is that the brits got told what religion to follow with their monarch and the majority followed with that, unlike the Irish. There was some resistence of the conversion to the protestant faith when king Henry the 8th was refused another marriage from the pope so decided that the whole country should turn protestant to suit him and his new bit of skirt. The English followed with power because that's what they do.

Well once again your trying to make it sound like a light bulb switch, one day were catholic next day were protestant tomorrow were buddhist. The whole conversion wasn't just over abit of pussy there was power and politics involved, i like this deep rooted catholic loathing going on here its very amusing. He basically made alot of effort to be a powerful infleunce in european affairs he helped back one side in a feud and when this side eventually won he was hoping this "favour" would get him elected the title of Holy roman emperor (your a catholic you should know what thats about) but instead the person he helped got the title and he was just given a lousy half arsed "Defender of the faith" title instead, still used to this day on coins and such, as a thankyou. Then theres the producing of an heir issue. See the pope exercised alot of power here say you married a wife who was infertile or had birth problems etc what happened then? An entire realm could plunge into chaos on the wim of a powerful man sitting in the vatican in rome.

Let me also point out another thing, every nation in europe which converted away from the catholic faith has done pretty well for itself

The UK
Netherlands
Germany
Sweden
Denmark
Finland (when they got away from being russian owned)
Norway (okish)

Catholic nations that are has beens or flopped down
Spain
Portugal
Italy (a shamble performance)
Greece
Hungary
Scotland (bankrupted itself)
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 08:52:20 PM
Ugh, possibly the most vile thing you can think of. A proddy jew. Catholicism is still the biggest Christian faith and the biggest religion as far as power goes, pretty much all the catholic countries you mention were great under catholicism and will be again, Unlike the jews, everybodies favourite wipping boys. How long ago was it that Greece was catholic? They, like Britain have fallen from grace since renouncing it. Im not even catholic anymore but recognise that it is the one true Christian religion and the most holy of all religions.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 08:59:05 PM
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Your denigration of the skillful art of boxing

Brain bashing for entertainment

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They are the most succesful small civilian army in history in regards to pioneering techniques and execution of these techniques.

In what respect, I find that a very pompous claim when there are 1000's of such conflict in history some of which have been even more succesful such as the complete exlpulsion of the invading japanese from Korea in the middle ages through the armed resistance of its civilians even when the army was decimated. Not to mention the resistance of ancient Judea to Babylon occupation.

For a start im not really sure how the IRA have "won" any kind of conflcit. The british still control northern ireland, Ireland itself doesnt want anything to do with it and you're going nowhere fast with this parliment. The English arn't exactly suffering day to day with the plight of Ireland and Gurillea warfare hasn't really changed that much since ancient times so im not sure what pioneering techniques your refering too. Though if pioneering techniques involves removing the voice box of Ian paisely im all for it.

I guess if your not fighting each other theres nothing much to do or talk about in ireland besides get drunk and dance and as Homer once wrote "Men tire of love and dance but not war" or something along those lines

Ireland won the republic back, that was a conflict they won, dummy. The English would be suffering day to day if they didnt back down on a lot of things. The pioneering techniques of the Republican Army (both old and new) are well documented. They have used high succes rate tacticts with  guerilla warfare techniques that have left the world in awe. They are the most technologically and tactically advanced civilian group this century, they have had engineers make bombs that are more sophisticated than you could hope to learn. How original are your comments about the Irish driinking and fighting, I think your trying to sell me a watch there, it's the English who are the drunken hooligans who have the worst reputation in Europe for football violence. You wouldnt understand the art or bravery involved in boxing so there is no point in going there.

And these tactics are documented where? Point me to them names publishers i want to read them. Don't read out the pamphlet propaganda. So where are the hijacked planes flying into Sandhurst?

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You wouldnt understand the art or bravery involved in boxing so there is no point in going there.

The same art the greeks applied to their statues celebrating the love of men
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
Wondering how long before youd bring your love of men into the argument.

 Im not going to do your research for you but helicopters have been used in IRA operations and in at least one of the many succesful IRA prison breaks. There is even a song about it.
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Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 09:14:37 PM
Ugh, possibly the most vile thing you can think of. A proddy jew. Catholicism is still the biggest Christian faith and the biggest religion as far as power goes, pretty much all the catholic countries you mention were great under catholicism and will be again, Unlike the jews, everybodies favourite wipping boys. How long ago was it that Greece was catholic? They, like Britain have fallen from grace since renouncing it. Im not even catholic anymore but recognise that it is the one true Christian religion and the most holy of all religions.

Holy because emperor constantine told you so in exchange for letting a sect of the jewish faith become a state approved religion. You can see how the faith has been so succesful it has alot of hooks and traps which bind you to the irrationale conclusions of its mythology. I could pick on the obvious like the catholic church being the 2nd biggest investors in the armament industry and its stance on contraception sealing the fate of millions through HIV infection throughout the impoverished sectors of the world but its such a clicque argument

Really you just need to read the works of Luther Calvin and all the other people who saw it for what its worth

The world needs to move on beyond these teachings there no longer relevant we need to make something for our future not live the life of a wanton roman emperors bidding from 1500 years ago
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Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 09:15:36 PM
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Wondering how long before youd bring your love of men into the argument

Your lack of knowledge doesn't suprise me on this subject

Look up the city state of Sparta in hellantic history then get back to me
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 09:20:05 PM
The protestant religion is so forward looking, isnt it? The protestant leaders like the kings and queens of britain have done no wrong have they. This royal family, peer and class system we have in Britain is really us having moved on. Protestants base their whole faith around their catholicism that is why their called protestants, just a poor rip-off of catholicism.
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Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 09:21:52 PM
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Wondering how long before youd bring your love of men into the argument

Your lack of knowledge doesn't suprise me on this subject

Look up the city state of Sparta in hellantic history then get back to me

I know about the spartans you clown but probably not to the extent that you do since im not a harry hoofter.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 09:23:53 PM
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Im not going to do your research for you but helicopters have been used in IRA operations and in at least one of the many succesful IRA prison breaks. There is even a song about it

Helicopters? Gunship or just a transport one? What make? Nah I think flying jet planes into buildings was abit more original myself or putting nerve gas in the toyko subway ventilation system

Amateurs

So where you guys involved in Vietnam, Irish war veterans in the viet cong "Holy shit missouri firing again, incoming ARGH!!!" "B 52? Oh no agent Orange!!"

Do you fight with the Maoist gurilleas in Nepal

Sod it why didnt you join up Eamonn it sounds like a free holiday
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 13, 2006, 09:26:08 PM
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Wondering how long before youd bring your love of men into the argument

Your lack of knowledge doesn't suprise me on this subject

Look up the city state of Sparta in hellantic history then get back to me

I know about the spartans you clown but probably not to the extent that you do since im not a harry hoofter.

Staying down were you belong then, seal your fate
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Postperson on April 13, 2006, 09:28:10 PM
This is a great argument for re-instating the "nationalism' category. Where did it go? I wanted to put my Soapdodgers thread in it, but I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 13, 2006, 09:33:39 PM

Staying down were you belong then, seal your fate

You arent half full of shit spaz. I know i cant reach the lofty heights of being a DAnda monkey. You think your above people here, but your really an arse that cant follow his own advice.
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 14, 2006, 04:33:53 AM

Staying down were you belong then, seal your fate

You arent half full of shit spaz. I know i cant reach the lofty heights of being a DAnda monkey. You think your above people here, but your really an arse that cant follow his own advice.

Eamonn read a book. Full stop end of discussion
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 14, 2006, 04:36:03 AM
I have read a few but obviously we cant all be as edumatacted as you. You do realise what they say about male nurses, dont you?
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Post by: Praetor on April 14, 2006, 04:37:20 AM
I have read a few but obviously we cant all be as edumatacted as you. You do realise what they say about male nurses, dont you?

Indulge me Eamonn
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 14, 2006, 04:55:43 AM

Indulge me Eamonn

I know that you'd like me to alright. They are all gay. :police:
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Post by: Praetor on April 14, 2006, 05:03:25 AM

Indulge me Eamonn

I know that you'd like me to alright. They are all gay. :police:

Well the more mainstream nurses who knows what goes on with those tight tunic uniforms and matrons
Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Praetor on April 14, 2006, 05:10:10 AM
I highly recomend you read this book sir

Ralph Glasser
Omnibus (its 3 books in one)
Growing up in the gorbals

Title: Re: The admin forum
Post by: Eamonn on April 15, 2006, 05:51:59 PM
I highly recomend you read this book sir

Ralph Glasser
Omnibus (its 3 books in one)
Growing up in the gorbals



I had that 3 in 1 book, read some of "Growing up in the Gorbals" then lost the book, il need to get round to reading it again as it was interesting, what id read of it. My Granny was from an Irish family in the Gorbals. Since im unemployed right now, is there any housework or cooking you want me to do on Saturday? :P