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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: The_Chosen_One on October 19, 2010, 10:23:30 PM
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In a nutshell.
Back in the dim dark days of '07, on a site called wankplanet, an argument ensued between me and a fuckwit named jfrmeister about gun control and libertarianism and authorities and such. My view was that guns should only be kept in the hands of those responsible enough to use them properly (military and police included) and Scrap aka jfrmeister apparently threw his libertarian views in complaining that I was taking away his freedom. No matter that I was basing my viewpoint on the Port Arthur massacre where 35 people were killed by a lone nutter, the Hoddle Street shooting in 1987, and the Vitkovic shooting in Queen St Melbourne the same year. In 1996, John Howard (whom I did NOT vote for) brought in gun control laws banning the private use of semi automatics etc in Australia. Thus, gun violence decreased here, while knife assaults have risen. Now the only person I have any respect for on the issue of guns is PPK, who knows hw to handle his weapons responsibly, and keeps them stored responsibly as well. Now, back to the WP fiasco. A number of pm's were shot back and forthe between myself and jfrmeister, and a whole lot of bullshit was said. He seemed to get rather butthurt over a so-called threat to 'hack' WP, and expected the mods to back him up. They didn't, but I was banned later. Tried trolling, but haven't been there since early '08.
Now, the story moves to here. Around May of '09, Scrapheap decides to revisit the issue, because he still has his knickers in a twist and thinks he can get me to play some sort of silly game. Tbh, I'd forgotten all about that shit, and couldn't have been bothered in the slightest with it anyway. Later that year (July-Aug I think) I had another meltdown (the 1st was in '08 with the Kosmo shite) and was having fights with everyone here, mainly because of the buttcoffee thing. When I came back on, I tried sorting things out, and with help from PPK, Rage, odeon and rossco, things did get sorted out. Then I had to go offline again, as I didn't have the means back home to use the forum, and I had other things to do.
So now we are here, in '10, and Scrap still hasn't dropped the issue. 3 years later, would you believe. Had I not seen some threads posted about me, I'd have not even bothered with anything related to it. He thinks I avoided him and the issue, well big fucking deal. He was the one who went public on a supposed 'support site' posting pm's publicly, none of which I could access anyway as my account(s) are all banned. So, I pm'ed him here to ask WTF he was on about, and got nothing but a mouthful of fucking abuse. This prat seems to believe as well that he can play junior psychotherapist by mentioning 'projection' and other bullshit terminology. Where did he get his degree and licence to practise? A Corn Flakes pack?
So basically, that's it. And if he wants to spin his version of it, I personally don't give a shit. Also, if he can't let the thing go and wants to behave like someone with a bad case of piles over the whole thing, then that's his problem too. Me? i'll just post what I like and when I like, and tough shit if that doesn't fit his agenda.
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For someone who "forgot about all this shit", you sure can't quit talking about it. :hahaha:
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For someone who "forgot about all this shit", you sure can't quit talking about it. :hahaha:
And to me the case is closed. Finished. So either drop it and your pretentious crap, or fuck off, whatever.
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For someone who "forgot about all this shit", you sure can't quit talking about it. :hahaha:
And to me the case is closed. Finished. So either drop it and your pretentious crap, or fuck off, whatever.
You're the one who keep bringing it up you projecting fuckwit!! :hahaha:
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guns should only be kept in the hands of those responsible enough to use them properly (military and police included)
I can see the point of getting some kind of training for people to get a concealed carry gun license, but what would make you think that Scrapheap, DirtDawg and I (for example) would not be responsible enough to use guns properly?
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For someone who "forgot about all this shit", you sure can't quit talking about it. :hahaha:
And to me the case is closed. Finished. So either drop it and your pretentious crap, or fuck off, whatever.
You're the one who keep bringing it up you projecting fuckwit!! :hahaha:
Bullshit.
If you can't STFU and give it a rest, then we have nothing to say to each other. We are both gonna be here, but I will no longer acknowledge your existence.
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Wow, you sure took your time of energy to write your essay about what happened between you two.
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Wow, you sure took your time of energy to write your essay about what happened between you two.
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. ;)
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guns should only be kept in the hands of those responsible enough to use them properly (military and police included)
I can see the point of getting some kind of training for people to get a concealed carry gun license, but what would make you think that Scrapheap, DirtDawg and I (for example) would not be responsible enough to use guns properly?
As long as you were responsible, there would be no problem. I'm talking about the nutters who shoot up schools, gang violence, organized crime (Mafia) and such.
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guns should only be kept in the hands of those responsible enough to use them properly (military and police included)
I can see the point of getting some kind of training for people to get a concealed carry gun license, but what would make you think that Scrapheap, DirtDawg and I (for example) would not be responsible enough to use guns properly?
As long as you were responsible, there would be no problem. I'm talking about the nutters who shoot up schools, gang violence, organized crime (Mafia) and such.
Gun bans won't take guns out of the hands of those people. We have a 1,000 mile long border with Mexico where illegal guns could stream across the border unchecked.
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guns should only be kept in the hands of those responsible enough to use them properly (military and police included)
I can see the point of getting some kind of training for people to get a concealed carry gun license, but what would make you think that Scrapheap, DirtDawg and I (for example) would not be responsible enough to use guns properly?
As long as you were responsible, there would be no problem. I'm talking about the nutters who shoot up schools, gang violence, organized crime (Mafia) and such.
Gun bans won't take guns out of the hands of those people. We have a 1,000 mile long border with Mexico where illegal guns could stream across the border unchecked.
That's what I thought at first here, but we are an island continent, and somehow it has worked. The underworld still get them, but they are a minority. Maybe your authorities need to look at border control.
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I think it may be different for you precisely because you are an island. We are a huge country with thousands of miles of borders with Mexico and Canada.
I would prefer not to have guns taken away from the people who do use them responsibly by attempting to ban them. The problem with that is that criminals would think nothing of breaking the law to obtain them illegally while only law-abiding citizens would follow the law. Besides, the right to bear arms is the second amendment to our Constitution.
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I think it may be different for you precisely because you are an island. We are a huge country with thousands of miles of borders with Mexico and Canada.
I would prefer not to have guns taken away from the people who do use them responsibly by attempting to ban them. The problem with that is that criminals would think nothing of breaking the law to obtain them illegally while only law-abiding citizens would follow the law. Besides, the right to bear arms is the second amendment to our Constitution.
I know about the 2nd amendment, and therefore your country feels they have the right to own guns etc. Yes, the borders are a problem, and it won't be an easy fix. Since our laws were changed, Sept 11 has happened, and the Iraqui conflict and Al Qaeda have been stirring the pot as well. Thus the world has gone through a whole series of changes and new threats have appeared. That's also another reason why some sort of control would be an idea, but in a country where so many freedoms have become ensconced in everday life and written into law, it would make it very hard to implement.
In the end, all we can hope for is sanity to prevail.
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i had a heavy argument with a guy called b9, it ended up with him...I shouldn't bring it up.
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i dont even think steve-o is autistic, the guy just obviously likes fighting with people. that isnt autism, thats tardism!
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i dont even think steve-o is autistic, the guy just obviously likes fighting with people. that isnt autism, thats tardism!
duh.
I told you I wasn't autistic at the beginning. Obviously he can't read as well as write.
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i dont even think steve-o is autistic, the guy just obviously likes fighting with people. that isnt autism, thats tardism!
duh.
I told you I wasn't autistic at the beginning. Obviously he can't read as well as write.
So you are tardistic?!
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i dont even think steve-o is autistic, the guy just obviously likes fighting with people. that isnt autism, thats tardism!
duh.
I told you I wasn't autistic at the beginning. Obviously he can't read as well as write.
So you are tardistic?!
PhD or fuck off, what's it gonna be?
Show your credentials or show your arse as the door is hitting it on the way out.
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So you are tardistic?!
PhD or fuck off, what's it gonna be?
Show your credentials or show your arse as the door is hitting it on the way out.
Aaah, more "rule making". For a place that you claim has no rules, you sure try to make a ton of 'em. ::)
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I do agree that people need weapons to fight back. You will definitely have to arm up if you live in a dangerous area, otherwise you won't survive long. As for myself, I certainly would use a gun to defend myself if someone had the intent to kill me first, plan to rob me etc. However, I see guns only as a last measure, I don't get the trigger happy kind.
Police and Military responsible? Pffft, please. People seem to forget that have the same faults as any human, meaning they're still capable of being very irresponsible. This is why the majority of the police force here are unarmed (apart from batons) and why the military here only have small roles. Also, anti gun laws does not stop people obtaining them, they're very easy to get here in black markets. The high gun crime in Dublin/Limerick is an example of that, despite guns being banned.
Even without guns, people will find other ways to kill. If everything of use is banned, we can still use fists.
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So you are tardistic?!
PhD or fuck off, what's it gonna be?
Show your credentials or show your arse as the door is hitting it on the way out.
Aaah, more "rule making". For a place that you claim has no rules, you sure try to make a ton of 'em. ::)
Well your the fucking 'genius' (ahem) trying to impose your bullshit upon me. Goes both ways, sonny Jim.
If you expect me to do what you say just because you are dipshit in his late 30s who can't get out of college, then you are sadly fucking mistaken, pal. :finger:
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you didnt tell me you werent autistic. and nobody told me, so why are you on this board?
get out of here nerd! :hahaha:
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you didnt tell me you werent autistic. and nobody told me, so why are you on this board?
get out of here nerd! :hahaha:
Who are you, Scrap's little brother?
In case you hadn't read or heard, virtually EVERYBODY here knew I'm not autistic. I hang here for the fact that most of youare really good to chat with, and this has been more of a social board for that purpose, AFAIK. Just cos 99% of everyone here is aspie, doesn't stop others from joining in. So if odeon or Callaway or parts or whomever else had a problem, then I guess they would have said so. They never have, and therefore the point is moot.
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now i know why you have all those stupid fucking pictures in your signature
and you can stay, i just think your lame!
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now i know why you have all those stupid fucking pictures in your signature
and you can stay, i just think your lame!
well, that accounts for my eyesight......
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Aaah, more "rule making". For a place that you claim has no rules, you sure try to make a ton of 'em. ::)
Well your the fucking 'genius' (ahem) trying to impose your bullshit upon me. Goes both ways, sonny Jim.
If you expect me to do what you say just because you are dipshit in his late 30s who can't get out of college, then you are sadly fucking mistaken, pal. :finger:
So me asking a question and expecting a response constitutes "imposing my bullshit on you"??
If getting you to respond to a question was such a chore then, why are you so enthusiastic to do it now?? :hahaha:
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Aaah, more "rule making". For a place that you claim has no rules, you sure try to make a ton of 'em. ::)
Well your the fucking 'genius' (ahem) trying to impose your bullshit upon me. Goes both ways, sonny Jim.
If you expect me to do what you say just because you are dipshit in his late 30s who can't get out of college, then you are sadly fucking mistaken, pal. :finger:
So me asking a question and expecting a response constitutes "imposing my bullshit on you"??
If getting you to respond to a question was such a chore then, why are you so enthusiastic to do it now?? :hahaha:
Frankly, I haven't a clue. Maybe to get you to shut the fuck up?
You seem to make up rules for poeple to follow, bullshit they may be. So if you got butthurt by me not answering you when you wanted made you 'chuck a 'wobbly', then too bad.
Oh, and about projection - someone has to with you seeing as your such a fucking dim-wit.
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well, that accounts for my eyesight......
what? leave the board, NT. :hahaha:
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well, that accounts for my eyesight......
what? leave the board, NT. :hahaha:
Go on, make me.
But wait...... richard has me on ignore.
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Entire threads of inactive accounts :(
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Yeah, I noticed that about this one, too.
Jesse said something about pictures in TCO's signature. I wonder what they were. I have blocked signatures.
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No pictures left.
IIRC the signature was very "loud" in the end.
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Entire threads of inactive accounts :(
Everybody needs to come back. :(