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Arena for the Competitive => Main Event Callouts => Topic started by: Trigger 11 on April 04, 2009, 08:05:15 PM

Title: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 04, 2009, 08:05:15 PM
This is my 1,000th post and I want to do something big and have a little fun too. So, without further adieu:

PMS Elle,

I like you...a lot. I find you amusing, entertaining, fun, insightful, and so on. :eyebrows: But, you have questioned my honesty on here despite the many very detailed and heartfelt posts I have made. ??? I even provide intimate details about myself that many would find easy to ridicule. :-[ Whenever I am full of shit, it is either glaringly obvious or I hone up to it immediately when called out, as it is always for fun. What more can I do? Yes, I love tickle fights! 8)

So let's have at it. A no-holds barred, anything goes, one-on-one with winner take all. Name your terms! Let's do this!!! :headbang2:

 :asthing:

Note: Seriously, this is all in fun.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on April 05, 2009, 10:49:01 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman who has seen a lot in her twentysomething years, much beautiful, but much more painful, and not always distinct.  As such, I have a finely calibrated bullshitdar which has proven itself right far more often than not, and far more often than I'd liked for it to have.

I've also, come to think of it, gotten into more than one ridiculously long argument in which someone who was genuinely being very dishonest with me took horrible offense to being called out, even in a gentle way.  Apparently "I know you lied to me, but it's really not a big deal to me, I know the truth, I'm willing to let this drop if you are, can we just move on?" is an unreasonable plea, even when it is addressed to someone who is lying.  (Ironically, both arguments that spring to mind were driven by the other person wanting me to lie and say I believed them.)

I like you, I respect you, and I won't claim you're lying- I can't know that.  I apologize that I did, directly- it would have been more polite to allude, because I had no way of knowing whether you were or not.  I expect people (whether or not they are on the spectrum!  it's universal!) to lie and to present themselves selectively- that doesn't mean I think that all people are so fundamentally manipulative and dishonest that it eclipses all else.

Now, are you joking, are you flirting, or were you legitimately offended/bothered/hurt/etc. by the suggestion that I thought there was a decent chance that you could well be, at the very least, bending the truth (in a couple of posts, in a pretty insignificant thread, in a way that I have seen people bend the truth or outright lie before)?

Rules of the callout will follow from your reply.  Honesty begs that I also say I know people can cover geniune hurt with humor, and if you're doing that, I'm actually rather curious as to what struck deep and why, because, as I said, it's something that has happened before.  What issue, if any, do you want to address?
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 05, 2009, 12:26:19 PM
When I said you were insightful, this is kind of what I was talking about. I have no problem with you questioning me for bullshitting, I just want to clarify that I was not. You are a very wise woman to have a good BS detector!

As I was saying in my callout, this was for fun! I am not questioning your point, but rather thought I'd offer you the opportunity to obtain clarification from me on any subject you might be wondering if I was being genuine or had ulterior motives on.

'Tis true, your are quite an interesting woman! I have a lot of respect for you. I apologize if this came across as anything more than for a little fun! Maybe I have violated the forum's rules in this section!

I am not genuinely upset. I thought I pointed that out in the first place and then in here in my callout! I figured we could have an entertaining, playful bought in here. I can bring the cookies if you like!

 :P

Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on April 05, 2009, 12:29:58 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 05, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on April 05, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 05, 2009, 12:56:28 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?

Condoms? No we did that ad nauseum already!
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on April 05, 2009, 03:19:16 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?

Condoms? No we did that ad nauseum already!
As far as that debate goes, which side were you on and which side was I on, again?   :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 05, 2009, 04:19:36 PM
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on April 05, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
Well then, Mr. creepy-ass voyer, how 'bout we talk about something that's happened at some point within the last several months?  :P
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on April 05, 2009, 06:17:58 PM
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
Well then, Mr. creepy-ass voyeur, how 'bout we talk about something that's happened at some point within the last several months?  :P

 :LMAO:

You love it in when I watch from across the street with my telescope.  :wanker:

Okay, that's even a little creepy for me. Moving along!
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on June 04, 2009, 01:02:00 PM
What the fuck was I on in April?
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: RageBeoulve on June 04, 2009, 02:35:05 PM
Bullshitdar lol.

To many feelings flying around hin here. I'm out.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on June 04, 2009, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: Trigger11
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a woman who has spent twenty odd years climbing her own arse.  As such, I have a finely calibrated bullshitdar which has proven itself right far more often than not, and far more often than I'd liked for it to have. Things do smell nice though.

I've also, come to think of it, gotten into more than one ridiculously long argument in which someone who was genuinely being very dishonest with me took horrible offense to being called out, even in a gentle way.  Apparently "I know you lied to me, but it's really not a big deal to me, I know the truth, I'm willing to let this drop if you are, can we just move on?" is an unreasonable plea, even when it is addressed to someone who is lying.  (Ironically, both arguments that spring to mind were driven by the other person wanting me to lie and say I believed them.)

I like you, I respect you, and I won't claim you're lying- I can't know that. But what I can know is that I am indeed a liar.  I apologize that I did, directly- it would have been more polite to allude, because I had no way of knowing whether you were or not.  I expect people (whether or not they are on the spectrum!  it's universal!) to lie and to present themselves selectively- that doesn't mean I think that all people are so fundamentally manipulative and dishonest that it eclipses all else. I consider myself living proof of this.

Now, are you joking, are you flirting, or were you legitimately offended/bothered/hurt/etc. by the suggestion that I thought there was a decent chance that you could well be, at the very least, bending the truth (in a couple of posts, in a pretty insignificant thread, in a way that I have seen people bend the truth or outright lie before)?

Rules of the callout will follow from your reply (and how I choose to interpret it).  Honesty begs that I also say I know people can cover geniune hurt with humor, and if you're doing that, I'm actually rather curious as to what struck deep and why, because, as I said, it's something that has happened before.  What issue, if any, do you want to address?
Fixed

Go play, kiddies.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on June 04, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
This was a private conversation, so fuck off!
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on June 04, 2009, 03:54:22 PM
This was a private conversation, so fuck off!
Take it to PM then.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: TheoK on June 04, 2009, 03:59:44 PM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on June 04, 2009, 07:46:50 PM
No! The forum rules say you take it to the peanut gallery! :grrr: :P
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: DirtDawg on June 04, 2009, 07:56:49 PM
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?

Condoms? No we did that ad nauseum already!
As far as that debate goes, which side were you on and which side was I on, again?   :zoinks:

Just saw this, but I can't resist ...


If you were using them properly, you were on the outside and he was on the inside.


:hide:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: DirtDawg on June 04, 2009, 07:59:22 PM
No! The forum rules say you take it to the peanut gallery! :grrr: :P

Yep, and I will butt out. hadn't even realized where this was, yet.

Sorry. 
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 09:29:08 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Callaway on June 17, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a very smart woman, Vodzy?
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 09:57:02 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a very smart woman, Vodzy?

 :thumbup:

Thanks for proving my point. ;D
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Blasted on June 17, 2009, 10:26:05 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Hypatia of Alexandria (370-415): Egyptian mathematician and astronomer, for many years head of Plato's School of Philosophy, credited with discoveries on the movements of the planets and with inventing the hydrometer (a device still used today to measure the density of liquids).

Queen Elizabeth I (1533-1603): queen of England and according to the historian David Loades in a recent biography, the "best educated woman of her generation". She could speak and write French, Greek, Italian and Latin as well as English, she was an expert diplomat and politician and an influential speaker. Pope Sixtus V said of her that “she is only a woman, only mistress of half an island, and yet she makes herself feared by Spain, by France, by the Empire, by all.”

Caroline Hershel (1750-1848) German-born English astronomer: co-discoverer of the planet Uranus; discovered several comets (the first woman to do so). First female recipient of the Royal Astronomical Society’s Gold Medal for her work on cataloguing stars. (The next woman to be awarded it was Vera Rubin, in the 1990s.)

Mary Somerville (1780-1872) Scottish astronomer, mathematician and geographer. She and Caroline Herschel were the first women admitted to the Royal Astronomical Society. Among the influential books she wrote are Connection of the Physical Sciences and Molecular and Microscopic Science.

Marie Curie (1867-1934): Polish-born French physicist and chemist, the only winner of Nobel prizes in two different disciplines (Physics in 1903 and Chemistry in 1911), first female professor appointed by the Sorbonne University and founder of the scientific research centre now called the Institut Curie; famous also for her research into radioactivity (a word she invented) and discovery of the elements radium and polonium.

Henrietta Leavitt (1868-1921): American astronomer, who cracked the problem of how to measure interstellar distances (using the trackable brightness of particular stars, called “cepheids”, which she discovered.) Because of her discoveries, the universe was suddenly found to be hundreds of times bigger than previously thought.

France Cordova (born 1947): French-born Mexican-American astrophysicist. The youngest person (and first woman) to be appointed Chief Scientist at NASA and winner of NASA’s highest accolade, the Distinguished Service Medal. She has published more than 150 scientific papers. Last year, she was made president of Purdue University.

Those are a few examples though  :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 10:28:23 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Blasted on June 17, 2009, 10:29:31 AM
 8)
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Callaway on June 17, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a very smart woman, Vodzy?

 :thumbup:

Thanks for proving my point. ;D

I think that there are several women here who are smarter than you are, Vodzy.

Maybe you think you're smart because you have two women on a string, but you will probably wind up losing them both.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 11:02:23 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a very smart woman, Vodzy?

 :thumbup:

Thanks for proving my point. ;D

I think that there are several women here who are smarter than you are, Vodzy.

Maybe you think you're smart because you have two women on a string, but you will probably wind up losing them both.

 ;D

Callaway, I did consider you a very smart woman, but if even such a woman cannot decipher my post, they can't be "very". :P

Now, in regards to the highlighted text, just because something is "bad" does not mean the opposite is "good". In this case, men are worse, and I do not think I am smart. That's ridiculous. How can I gauge my intelligence without comparison - REAL comparison? We shall have to wait for a mind-reading machine to be developed, then we can have our smarts contest.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: RageBeoulve on June 17, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman

<snip>

Oxymoron!

Are you saying that there is no such thing as a very smart woman, Vodzy?

 :thumbup:

Thanks for proving my point. ;D

I think that there are several women here who are smarter than you are, Vodzy.

Maybe you think you're smart because you have two women on a string, but you will probably wind up losing them both.

 ;D

Callaway, I did consider you a very smart woman, but if even such a woman cannot decipher my post, they can't be "very". :P

Now, in regards to the highlighted text, just because something is "bad" does not mean the opposite is "good". In this case, men are worse, and I do not think I am smart. That's ridiculous. How can I gauge my intelligence without comparison - REAL comparison? We shall have to wait for a mind-reading machine to be developed, then we can have our smarts contest.

This man has a point.  :o
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: RageBeoulve on June 17, 2009, 11:34:50 AM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)


I'm just smart enough to know how dumb I am. ;)
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Blasted on June 17, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)


I'm just smart enough to know how dumb I am. ;)

I don't think you're dumb ;)
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: RageBeoulve on June 17, 2009, 11:39:10 AM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)


I'm just smart enough to know how dumb I am. ;)

I don't think you're dumb ;)

Haha. I meant i've lived long enough that I now know enough to know I don't really know shit.  :heart:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: vodz on June 17, 2009, 12:05:48 PM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)


I'm just smart enough to know how dumb I am. ;)

I don't think you're dumb ;)

Well if that ain't an oxymoron...

Haha. I meant i've lived long enough that I now know enough to know I don't really know shit.  :heart:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: RageBeoulve on June 17, 2009, 12:08:10 PM
Yeah I am actually pretty smart. ;)


I'm just smart enough to know how dumb I am. ;)

I don't think you're dumb ;)

Well if that ain't an oxymoron...

Haha. I meant i've lived long enough that I now know enough to know I don't really know shit.  :heart:

Not really. It means i've learned enought hat i've advanced to the level that I realize i'll never know everything, or even a fraction of what there is to know. Humans really can't know shit.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on June 17, 2009, 12:50:38 PM
Oh christ- this thread is still alive?
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Leto729 on June 17, 2009, 05:11:28 PM
Oh christ- this thread is still alive?
I guess. :lol: :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Alex179 on June 17, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Oh christ- this thread is still alive?
Necromancy is bad, mmmkay.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: P7PSP on June 18, 2009, 03:32:49 AM
Oh christ- this thread is still alive?
Maybe if you would just answer the thread would go away.
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: El on June 18, 2009, 06:36:23 AM
Oh christ- this thread is still alive?
Maybe if you would just answer the thread would go away.
Lol, asshole.   :laugh:
Title: Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
Post by: Trigger 11 on June 18, 2009, 08:46:53 AM
My apologies Elle!