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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: jman on July 18, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
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I actually got banned for this:
http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=9738
I got a big kick out of this, I just love stirring up the (jrrational) masses sometimes, it's fun.
I found this to be esepcially funny:
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7840/gnomeshot2nv4.png)
NEVER! :emb:
Like I said it wasn't even that funny, I just like stirring up the masses :evillaugh:
Their millitant stance is outragiousily funny and ridiculious
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i couldn't read any of that. was that your ban notification?
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Foul moods, suck don't they?
Mom is fuckn psychotic to the core, and she starts shit all the time. Then when I try and help her she makes threats and such, so then I ignore her. Aruging is unproductive, my aunt should learn that to. Family sucks, but at least I know they are have their reasons.
I Am not making fun of you Jman. My mom is bipolar.
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/fights her way past the drivel.
AFF saying you're an arsehole is pretty much a recommendation, jman.
i couldn't read it either, though. :(
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this guy is also bipolar and bisexual:
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/snakeskowren/a0cfwz.jpg)
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and he shaves his tits. :puke:
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Please don't start the hyper focus bullshit. Even my clinical social worker, sternly said, "You are not bipolar one or two... I was acting like my mom to make living with my life easier and she has bipolar disorder. That is discrete personality disorder, part of complex post truamatic stress disorder. Its a rather abstract disorder, difficult for some aspies to understand so I can understand the hyperfocus bullshit. That is unless they got it, then they should leave me alone. I don't do that behavior anymore, because its not cool. What is cool is not letting anything bother you.
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she said it sternly because you are dillusional. she figured that if she was stern, about the negative Dx, then you might believe it to be a positive.
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Your dellusional, in your hyperfocus state, and I don't need your attention. The focus should be towards what Jman wrote, Jman I appologize for the idiot and I am not the idiot.
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I think it would be fun to go on AFF and troll there sometimes, i think i should go there and pretend to be a ultra aspie supremicist...
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i couldn't read any of that. was that your ban notification?
It basically said I am banned from the forum: reason unknown and it also says my ban will never be lifted lol
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i couldn't read any of that. was that your ban notification?
It basically said I am banned from the forum: reason unknown and it also says my ban will never be lifted lol
Just for posting that Rick Roll music video?
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Well if you look at the topic I said : Video evidence of an autiistic being abused: just to entice them :evillaugh: What a great place to troll. but ya a perma ban over a silly prank like that is a little extreme, which makes all the more funnier.
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We should form a club to go and troll AFF...
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what is an assole anyways. is it a cassarole mad with sphincter?
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You got banned for a RickRoll.
:laugh: wtf is the world coming to ?
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Honestly though, to AFF's credit, Rick Roll does suck.
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:laugh:
it hasn't invaded my consciousness yet, thank fuck. no, no links, thanks.
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i want a link.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjO4-TbW938
nevermind.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpMceWKEUI
honest, it's not a Rick Roll.
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must... resist... must..resist!
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You're dellusional, in your hyperfocus state :wanker: :wanker:, and I need your attention. The focus should be towards what Jman wrote, Jman I appologize for the idiot and I am the idiot.
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OK, in the interest of fairness, PLEASE do not troll AFF. They are a more reasonable and a better alternative to WP. It is a very serious AS/Autism site, probably too serious, BUT, they are not devious and dishonest like WP. PLEASE. I do have a better feel for Amy and GAreth then anybody here. I'v been registered there since they started. I have spoken with Amy and GAreth many times. Trust me, they are not anywhere near as bad as TheInfantKingAlex. I know Anbuend as well, I like her and she is not a bad person.
Please think, before you do anything. Otherwise I may do some thinking myself. Consider this, they have no love for "Alex" either. And, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." --anonymous
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OK, in the interest of fairness, PLEASE do not troll AFF. They are a more reasonable and a better alternative to WP. It is a very serious AS/Autism site, probably too serious, BUT, they are not devious and dishonest like WP. PLEASE. I do have a better feel for Amy and GAreth then anybody here. I'v been registered there since they started. I have spoken with Amy and GAreth many times. Trust me, they are not anywhere near as bad as TheInfantKingAlex. I know Anbuend as well, I like her and she is not a bad person.
Please think, before you do anything. Otherwise I may do some thinking myself. Consider this, they have no love for "Alex" either. And, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." --anonymous
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I agree with Ozy, although I have had no personal contact with the owners. There are plenty of other places to troll.
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I suppose the temptation is always there to troll people who take themselves so seriously, but I don't actually have any enmity towards Amy and Gareth myself, I don't agree with all their objectives but they're clearly sincere about them. Another more deserving target must be out there though if *gasp* people have got sick of trolling the Plank?
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must... resist... must..resist!
CAN resist!
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luckily, i'm being distracted elewhere. :angel:
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OK, in the interest of fairness, PLEASE do not troll AFF. They are a more reasonable and a better alternative to WP. It is a very serious AS/Autism site, probably too serious, BUT, they are not devious and dishonest like WP. PLEASE. I do have a better feel for Amy and GAreth then anybody here. I'v been registered there since they started. I have spoken with Amy and GAreth many times. Trust me, they are not anywhere near as bad as TheInfantKingAlex. I know Anbuend as well, I like her and she is not a bad person.
Please think, before you do anything. Otherwise I may do some thinking myself. Consider this, they have no love for "Alex" either. And, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." --anonymous
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Fair enough, ill leave them. Do you think if Amy and Gareth had the power and media coverage that Alex (Captain) has, that they would use it in a better manner than he does?
Dunc, if you want a more deseving target ill could find you someone on the student room to flame :)
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OK, in the interest of fairness, PLEASE do not troll AFF. They are a more reasonable and a better alternative to WP. It is a very serious AS/Autism site, probably too serious, BUT, they are not devious and dishonest like WP. PLEASE. I do have a better feel for Amy and GAreth then anybody here. I'v been registered there since they started. I have spoken with Amy and GAreth many times. Trust me, they are not anywhere near as bad as TheInfantKingAlex. I know Anbuend as well, I like her and she is not a bad person.
Please think, before you do anything. Otherwise I may do some thinking myself. Consider this, they have no love for "Alex" either. And, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." --anonymous
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Fair enough, ill leave them. Do you think if Amy and Gareth had the power and media coverage that Alex (Captain) has, that they would use it in a better manner than he does?
Dunc, if you want a more deseving target ill could find you someone on the student room to flame :)
Yes, Amy and Gareth are sincere and have used their power better than Alex does. To be honest, they have made questionable decisions that I have had problems with in the past. BUT, they are AS/autism like many of us, and who among us has made 100% perfect decisions in our past. They are a real advocacy site and not a "PET" project like WP. If you want to check out places to troll or flame. Go to the link to other AS sites and go to FAMsecretsociety and check it out. Tell me what you think. You want to talk about the abuse of power by Alex, take a gander at Zoologist/Tom there.
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OK, in the interest of fairness, PLEASE do not troll AFF. They are a more reasonable and a better alternative to WP. It is a very serious AS/Autism site, probably too serious, BUT, they are not devious and dishonest like WP. PLEASE. I do have a better feel for Amy and GAreth then anybody here. I'v been registered there since they started. I have spoken with Amy and GAreth many times. Trust me, they are not anywhere near as bad as TheInfantKingAlex. I know Anbuend as well, I like her and she is not a bad person.
Please think, before you do anything. Otherwise I may do some thinking myself. Consider this, they have no love for "Alex" either. And, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." --anonymous
THINK
Fair enough, ill leave them. Do you think if Amy and Gareth had the power and media coverage that Alex (Captain) has, that they would use it in a better manner than he does?
Dunc, if you want a more deseving target ill could find you someone on the student room to flame :)
Yes, Amy and Gareth are sincere and have used their power better than Alex does. To be honest, they have made questionable decisions that I have had problems with in the past. BUT, they are AS/autism like many of us, and who among us has made 100% perfect decisions in our past. They are a real advocacy site and not a "PET" project like WP. If you want to check out places to troll or flame. Go to the link to other AS sites and go to FAMsecretsociety and check it out. Tell me what you think. You want to talk about the abuse of power by Alex, take a gander at Zoologist/Tom there.
Ok, ill look at that place to troll when i next feel hungry :green: I would be very worried however if Gareth and Amy got some real power, while they have the best intentions, having looked at what they have written and their website, i think anything they do would blow up in our faces, they just are not political operators unfortuantly.
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Oh give me a break. If your looking for the perfect forum...............created by someone else............then you are headed for a lifetime of bitter disappointment. There's no such thing..........unless you create your own........and then it might be a forum of one, you, yourself and you. AFF is not perfect, it's not a place for me anymore. But, it's a place for others. And Amy and Gareth are not exactly playing for rank and privilege, like the infantking. Say what you want about them, but, they are regular folk like most of us, trying to get by, like most of us.
And I hate to say this, but, AFF is THEIR forum. Like wp, which is Alex's forum, it belongs to them, their rules, their vision, you join, you agree to abide by their rules. Unlike Alex, they are pretty up front, but, they move fast and direct at threats to THEIR forum. And unlike Alex, their forum is a much safer place for younger aspies like my daughter and it is NOT a place where a pedophile can have free rein.
If I2 is going to be a launch pad for troll attacks on ANY forum that displeases or angers newbies, then I am in the wrong place, again!
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I actually got banned for this:
http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=9738
I got a big kick out of this, I just love stirring up the (jrrational) masses sometimes, it's fun.
I found this to be esepcially funny:
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7840/gnomeshot2nv4.png)
NEVER! :emb:
Like I said it wasn't even that funny, I just like stirring up the masses :evillaugh:
Their millitant stance is outragiousily funny and ridiculious
That is fucking hillarious what you did! I don't know why it's funny but it is. Some Aspies n Auties have a wacked out abstract sence of humour.
God that was funny! i was thinking wtf....OH It's a prank!
Yeah i got unfriendly responses from AFF I told them that my darkest thoughts were starting a holocaust and killing all the normal people so Aspies will no longer suffer socially....... They all said "You need help" well duh I am a diagnosed Aspie of course i'm getting help so shut the fuck up. I never told them that but I know the average Aspie would have dark thoughts against NT's but would never start a fucking holocaust. I told them it was a dark thought. They told me "You shouldn't think like that....Thoughts can come real...you should get help"
I gave up posting on that site ever since. I know there not Aspies but normal people who seek individuality....they are so stupid i have known some pretty plain old boring Aspies. You don't need to be Aspie to be unique. Individuality is like Rythem you got it or you don't .
oh yeah sorry about spelling "rythem" wrong spell check is a fucking nutcase and won't correct it.
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Oh give me a break. If your looking for the perfect forum...............created by someone else............then you are headed for a lifetime of bitter disappointment. There's no such thing..........unless you create your own........and then it might be a forum of one, you, yourself and you. AFF is not perfect, it's not a place for me anymore. But, it's a place for others. And Amy and Gareth are not exactly playing for rank and privilege, like the infantking. Say what you want about them, but, they are regular folk like most of us, trying to get by, like most of us.
And I hate to say this, but, AFF is THEIR forum. Like wp, which is Alex's forum, it belongs to them, their rules, their vision, you join, you agree to abide by their rules. Unlike Alex, they are pretty up front, but, they move fast and direct at threats to THEIR forum. And unlike Alex, their forum is a much safer place for younger aspies like my daughter and it is NOT a place where a pedophile can have free rein.
If I2 is going to be a launch pad for troll attacks on ANY forum that displeases or angers newbies, then I am in the wrong place, again!
Its not their forum that concerns me, its their political ambitions. Announcing "War has been declared" on your website is inviting trouble the next time the wrong jounalist sticks your head round your door. As for a paedophile having a free rein on WP, why havent you reported anyone you strongly suspect to the authorites for them to investigate?
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Oh give me a break. If your looking for the perfect forum...............created by someone else............then you are headed for a lifetime of bitter disappointment. There's no such thing..........unless you create your own........and then it might be a forum of one, you, yourself and you. AFF is not perfect, it's not a place for me anymore. But, it's a place for others. And Amy and Gareth are not exactly playing for rank and privilege, like the infantking. Say what you want about them, but, they are regular folk like most of us, trying to get by, like most of us.
And I hate to say this, but, AFF is THEIR forum. Like wp, which is Alex's forum, it belongs to them, their rules, their vision, you join, you agree to abide by their rules. Unlike Alex, they are pretty up front, but, they move fast and direct at threats to THEIR forum. And unlike Alex, their forum is a much safer place for younger aspies like my daughter and it is NOT a place where a pedophile can have free rein.
If I2 is going to be a launch pad for troll attacks on ANY forum that displeases or angers newbies, then I am in the wrong place, again!
Its not their forum that concerns me, its their political ambitions. Announcing "War has been declared" on your website is inviting trouble the next time the wrong jounalist sticks your head round your door. As for a paedophile having a free rein on WP, why havent you reported anyone you strongly suspect to the authorites for them to investigate?
As for political ambitions, I'm only aware of stuff they have organized to present to politicians in the UK and the US for "Autism Rights". They are more militant than other forums. The "pedophile" comment was directed at the stuff I heard around Graelwyn and her pursuit of an underage boy.
There was a time several years ago that after my daughter joined wp, she got 2 very aggressive pm's from 2 men. One of whom, "TheASman" was a legitimate organizer for autism protests for autism rights. The other was just creepy, I pm'd Alex immediately and he took care of it then. But, the stuff I have heard lately makes me think otherwise at the moment. I probably overstated my case in my post. I ws pretty wound up when I posted.
Since I haven't been there in a long time and even when I did go it was to briefly scan for things that interested me. I missed the "War has been declared" on your website stuff. I know they have had a long running feud with wp and on a lesser scale with tom of the famsecretsociety.
Whatever, after sleeping on this issue, I'm going to bow out of the discussion and keep an eye on things to see what happens. I do stand by my beliefs that AFF should not be "trolled". Criticizing it is one thing, free speech and all that. But, trolling does not accomplish anything except give the source of the trolling 0 credibility in most peoples eyes.
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Oh give me a break. If your looking for the perfect forum...............created by someone else............then you are headed for a lifetime of bitter disappointment. There's no such thing..........unless you create your own........and then it might be a forum of one, you, yourself and you. AFF is not perfect, it's not a place for me anymore. But, it's a place for others. And Amy and Gareth are not exactly playing for rank and privilege, like the infantking. Say what you want about them, but, they are regular folk like most of us, trying to get by, like most of us.
And I hate to say this, but, AFF is THEIR forum. Like wp, which is Alex's forum, it belongs to them, their rules, their vision, you join, you agree to abide by their rules. Unlike Alex, they are pretty up front, but, they move fast and direct at threats to THEIR forum. And unlike Alex, their forum is a much safer place for younger aspies like my daughter and it is NOT a place where a pedophile can have free rein.
If I2 is going to be a launch pad for troll attacks on ANY forum that displeases or angers newbies, then I am in the wrong place, again!
Its not their forum that concerns me, its their political ambitions. Announcing "War has been declared" on your website is inviting trouble the next time the wrong jounalist sticks your head round your door. As for a paedophile having a free rein on WP, why havent you reported anyone you strongly suspect to the authorites for them to investigate?
As for political ambitions, I'm only aware of stuff they have organized to present to politicians in the UK and the US for "Autism Rights". They are more militant than other forums. The "pedophile" comment was directed at the stuff I heard around Graelwyn and her pursuit of an underage boy.
There was a time several years ago that after my daughter joined wp, she got 2 very aggressive pm's from 2 men. One of whom, "TheASman" was a legitimate organizer for autism protests for autism rights. The other was just creepy, I pm'd Alex immediately and he took care of it then. But, the stuff I have heard lately makes me think otherwise at the moment. I probably overstated my case in my post. I ws pretty wound up when I posted.
Since I haven't been there in a long time and even when I did go it was to briefly scan for things that interested me. I missed the "War has been declared" on your website stuff. I know they have had a long running feud with wp and on a lesser scale with tom of the famsecretsociety.
Whatever, after sleeping on this issue, I'm going to bow out of the discussion and keep an eye on things to see what happens. I do stand by my beliefs that AFF should not be "trolled". Criticizing it is one thing, free speech and all that. But, trolling does not accomplish anything except give the source of the trolling 0 credibility in most peoples eyes.
Hmm, well if alex dealt with the problem then i cant see the fuss. As for a female Paedo, i think that is just plain unexpected. What age was this boy, out of intrest? The war has been decleared was an attack on NT's, rather than another forum, if the daily mail had got hold of that one we could have been in for a rough time. As I said, i wont troll AFF, ill find somewhere else for my next exploit...
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Yeah, but he's an American, so it's illegal over there.
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Yeah, but he's an American, so it's illegal over there.
Yeah but she is British, so what she has done is perfectly legal here, as long as they shag over here rather than over there then no problemo legally. Morally it makes me want to puke though...
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As for this topic...
I'm disinclined to flame that place not because of Ozy's request (I like you, but I do what I want, when I want), but because AFF if full of boring elitism bollocks. Hardly worth the effort.
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Actually, I really don't give a horses ass about what goes on between her and the underage (for US) boy. As for the war has been declared, well, some people see it as the money is all going to the "Curebie" groups. Which some of it may be, but, a lot is being spent also on research for the genetic factor of it and a lot of other things related to autism. A lot of the money is being sent on understanding autism and what can be done to help. SOme people see that as condescending or threatening, even seeing it as the possible next "Holocaust". ::) Hysteria knows no reason! And not all aspies are the calm, logical, superintelligent people that some aspies like to project an image as. ::)
So much for my bowing out of this discussion! >:D
No problem, Peegai, you have your own mind and I respect and like that. Your no fucking sheep, thats for sure. 8)
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Actually, I really don't give a horses ass about what goes on between her and the underage (for US) boy. As for the war has been declared, well, some people see it as the money is all going to the "Curebie" groups. Which some of it may be, but, a lot is being spent also on research for the genetic factor of it and a lot of other things related to autism. A lot of the money is being sent on understanding autism and what can be done to help. SOme people see that as condescending or threatening, even seeing it as the possible next "Holocaust". ::) Hysteria knows no reason! And not all aspies are the calm, logical, superintelligent people that some aspies like to project an image as. ::)
So much for my bowing out of this discussion! >:D
No problem, Peegai, you have your own mind and I respect and like that. Your no fucking sheep, thats for sure. 8)
Well as for money going to curbie groups, i dont care too much, they will spend it on idiotic things such as research into environmental causes and MMR and so on. The only thing that they could come up with is a pre-natal test, which i doubt would be a major problem, very few people would end up having it. AFF needs sorting out, if they are going to be anything that represents Aspies then they need a plan and some sensible rational, otherwise they are unlikely to ever achieve anything good for us, despite the best of intentions.
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The autism community on the internet has been somewhat of a letdown for me, because it's all been segmented into different subgroups depending on your diagnostic label and your IQ level. Aspies also tend to have a complex over auties.
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The autism community on the internet has been somewhat of a letdown for me, because it's all been segmented into different subgroups depending on your diagnostic label and your IQ level. Aspies also tend to have a complex over auties.
Hmm, true, thats probably why many people go on several aspie forums rather than one.
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) are going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
Pretty much. No wonder Anbuend (Amanda Baggs) feels that TG is a cocky cunt for a former low-functioner.
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Actually, I really don't give a horses ass about what goes on between her and the underage (for US) boy. As for the war has been declared, well, some people see it as the money is all going to the "Curebie" groups. Which some of it may be, but, a lot is being spent also on research for the genetic factor of it and a lot of other things related to autism. A lot of the money is being sent on understanding autism and what can be done to help. SOme people see that as condescending or threatening, even seeing it as the possible next "Holocaust". ::) Hysteria knows no reason! And not all aspies are the calm, logical, superintelligent people that some aspies like to project an image as. ::)
So much for my bowing out of this discussion! >:D
No problem, Peegai, you have your own mind and I respect and like that. Your no fucking sheep, thats for sure. 8)
Well as for money going to curbie groups, i dont care too much, they will spend it on idiotic things such as research into environmental causes and MMR and so on. The only thing that they could come up with is a pre-natal test, which i doubt would be a major problem, very few people would end up having it. AFF needs sorting out, if they are going to be anything that represents Aspies then they need a plan and some sensible rational, otherwise they are unlikely to ever achieve anything good for us, despite the best of intentions.
Ever since I have been on forums, thats about 7-8 years now. There's been much talk/yelling/screaming/ :asthing: for AS/Autism groups to unite and declare ourselves as people, too! What has come up, not a helluva lot. In fact the phrase most commonly used is, "Trying to herd cats." . In concept, a good idea, in reality, it's a joke. And I do belong to several forums and browse 2-3 of them per day. I'm here more often, because it's more active and I'v made some friends here.
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
Pretty much. No wonder Anbuend (Amanda Baggs) feels that TG is a cocky cunt for a former low-functioner.
:o I never knew that about her. Temple Grandin that is. I like Anbuend. 8)
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
Pretty much. No wonder Anbuend (Amanda Baggs) feels that TG is a cocky cunt for a former low-functioner.
Amanda Baggs is little better, I have seen the article about her in New Scientist. How much is she attempting to embarrus us?
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What article? Link?
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The female pedo, has been discussed elsewhere on I2. It's an old discussion of about 2 months or so ago. The "was has been declared on NT's" is a very stupid thing to do. But, thats life for some aspie's! All or nothing, going from one extreme to the other. If things are really like that on AFF, I may have to rethink my defense of it. Either way, AFF shut down for a week or so last year after a mega-flame war and troll attack was launched on it by some "Kill all NT's" assholes. And they'v been having problems ever since, once every month or two it mysteriously shuts down and restarts for no reason. They have switched hosting services after the BIG shutdown. I just can't be bothered going back there, I'm too busy here and on my other forums.
Ok, ive had a look at this dear Graelwyn, this guy doesnt seem to be underage (16 is lawful in the UK). The war has been declared thread was saying that NT's that have declared war on us, not the other way, seemed to me to be a hell of an exageration to me (it was when the US spent $1bn on autism research). I wonder how come they ended up with a flame war.
Actually, I really don't give a horses ass about what goes on between her and the underage (for US) boy. As for the war has been declared, well, some people see it as the money is all going to the "Curebie" groups. Which some of it may be, but, a lot is being spent also on research for the genetic factor of it and a lot of other things related to autism. A lot of the money is being sent on understanding autism and what can be done to help. SOme people see that as condescending or threatening, even seeing it as the possible next "Holocaust". ::) Hysteria knows no reason! And not all aspies are the calm, logical, superintelligent people that some aspies like to project an image as. ::)
So much for my bowing out of this discussion! >:D
No problem, Peegai, you have your own mind and I respect and like that. Your no fucking sheep, thats for sure. 8)
Well as for money going to curbie groups, i dont care too much, they will spend it on idiotic things such as research into environmental causes and MMR and so on. The only thing that they could come up with is a pre-natal test, which i doubt would be a major problem, very few people would end up having it. AFF needs sorting out, if they are going to be anything that represents Aspies then they need a plan and some sensible rational, otherwise they are unlikely to ever achieve anything good for us, despite the best of intentions.
Ever since I have been on forums, thats about 7-8 years now. There's been much talk/yelling/screaming/ :asthing: for AS/Autism groups to unite and declare ourselves as people, too! What has come up, not a helluva lot. In fact the phrase most commonly used is, "Trying to herd cats." . In concept, a good idea, in reality, it's a joke. And I do belong to several forums and browse 2-3 of them per day. I'm here more often, because it's more active and I'v made some friends here.
There are things that can be done as unitary exercise, they are just a little risky...
Pyraxis, it was a while back and I only have a paper copy of NS. I just remember her discussing stimming, and how great it was.
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
Pretty much. No wonder Anbuend (Amanda Baggs) feels that TG is a cocky cunt for a former low-functioner.
Amanda Baggs is little better, I have seen the article about her in New Scientist. How much is she attempting to embarrus us?
Us? I'm not a member of some imaginary tribe. I simply share a label such as yourself, and that's it.
If you want to know more about this issue, look for Amanda Bagg's blog entry on this via Google.
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What article? Link?
http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=27
Lazy fuckers.
Oh, hi Pyraxis. How goes it? :)
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Unless it becomes more egalitarian, I don't think that these communities sharing Temple Grandin's viewpoint on self-worth amongst autistics (keep the smart autistics, destroy the useless ones) is going to achieve much.
A flamer that is an egalitarian? Talk about an oxymoron. :P
So lets get this straight, Temple Grandin wants to breed aspies, kill auties! :o
Pretty much. No wonder Anbuend (Amanda Baggs) feels that TG is a cocky cunt for a former low-functioner.
Amanda Baggs is little better, I have seen the article about her in New Scientist. How much is she attempting to embarrus us?
Us? I'm not a member of some imaginary tribe. I simply share a label such as yourself, and that's it.
If you want to know more about this issue, look for Amanda Bagg's blog entry on this via Google.
Yes I see it as little more than a brand name too. So really she is devaluing our brand, and making those within it look like total fools.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
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I wonder if it is possible that Temple Grandin did not mean it the way it sounds, because it sounds really bad.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.html?name=News&file=article&sid=295
Reposted for the people who can't see it there:
Interview with Temple Grandin
I recently had the amazing opportunity of speaking to the most well-known autistic individual in the world, Dr. Temple Grandin. Dr. Grandin has appeared on the Today Show, Larry King Live, 48 hours, ABC's Primetime Live, and 20/20. She has been featured in publications such as Time Magazine, People Magazine, Forbes, U.S. News and World Report, and the New York Times. She is well-respected for desigining the majority of livestock facilities in the United States.
What follows is the transcript text of my video interview With Temple Grandin. A video and transcript of her FutureQuest keynote speech will be available in the future.
WrongPlanet.net:What do you think about curing Autism? You've said things like "genius comes from autism" but you've also supported the ABA.
Temple Grandin:Well the thing is, with a little bit of autism, you know, if you have mild autism, you'll get genius like einstein. Too much of autism, you're going to have a severely handicapped child who's going to remain nonverbal and if you don't do things like aba, they're not going to function at all. There is no way with any treatment they have that you're going to cure autism. There's basic abnormalities in brain development.
I would think in an ideal world, you don't want to have people who cant talk, but on the other hand, you definitely don't want to get rid of all of the autism genetics becvause if you did that, there'd be no scientists. After all, who do you think made the first stone spear back in the caves? It wasn't the really social people.
If we didn't have a little of the autism trait we wouldn't even have this building here today with all the electricity in it, your video camera, powerpoint shows... None of this stuff would even exist.
WP: So if there were something that cured all the autism genes, you wouldn't support that?.
TG:No, I would not support that. becase there is a point where mild autistic traits are part of normal human variation. Because on the other end of the spectrum you have Williams Syndrome, and if you look at the brain abnormalities, they're exactly the opposite of autism. the whole back of the brain, where the hard drive is--there isn't too much there. But all the social emotional circuits are hooked up so [people with Williams Syndrome] are hyper, hyper, social. I'm gonna bet you there's a lot of yackety yackety salesman that don't talk about much of anything who are Williams Syndrome variants. But then you get to a point where a person [with Autism] cannot talk, they're self inuring themselves, and they cannot live independently. That [is something] you would want to eliminate, if possible, but you would not want to get rid of all the autism genes because you wouldn't have any computers-- you wouldn't have any scientists.
WP: I know there are groups like Cure Autism Now who are looking to test for Autism before someone is born. What are your thoughts on prenatal testing?
TG: Well, the problem with autistic traits, it's a continuum of traits.
WP:Right, a spectrum
TG: and [with] a little bit of the trait, you get einstein. There is a book called Asperger's and Self Esteem and its about famous scientists and musicians that probably were aspergers.
The genetics of it are probably going to be complicated. There is not going to be one single gene for autism. So i think they're quite a ways away from a genetic test. Its not like fragile x syndrome where there is a very obvious genetic abnormality.
WP: What do you think about online communication and the role it plays with helping HFA and aspergers communicate more because there are obviously a lot of websites out there where people can get help with social stuff.
TG: HI think thats a helpful thing--I think thats a really really helpful thing. But the things I feel very strongly about are things like developing your career. I'm a livestock handling specialist first and autistic secondly. And I think all of these websites are a really good thing but you don't want to have that take over where you're not working on your career in computer science which is extremely important. You also want to be on other websites for computer science where you're talking about things related to your job.
There is not enough emphasis in the special ed field on careers. Thats why I have my little book called developing talents. Because the thing about the autistic brain--it tends to be a specialist brain--good at one thing, bad at something else. And we need to be getting into a lot more emphasis on developing what they can be good at.
What you have to do is sell your skills rather than yourself. I'm a big believer in making portfolios. Make a nice portfolio of some of your very best coding. People are going to look at that and say 'wow, that's really good coding'.
That's something I've had to do my whole life-- I mean, I sold jobs by sending out a portfolio of drawings and picturees of jobs i have designed. I sell my work rather than myself.
The problem with the whole thing on curing autism is we do want to do something about low functioning autism. But the upper end.
WP:What do you think about the social aspect with Aspergers?
TG:I think there are basic social skills people need to learn. In my field there are lots of 40 and 50 year old head of maintenance engineers that are Aspergers and i think they're functioning because in the 50s, basic social skills were drilled into all kids. Things like manners, things like not being rude. And in today's society being looser, I think it really hurts the Aspergers children. I had table manners drilled into me as a child. I had things like please and thank you drilled into me as a child. And when I look back at that, that was really a good thing. And I'm seeing way too many Asperger kids who are total slobs. There is just no excuse for that. And you happen to look very nice. I want to commend you for that.
WP:Thank you.
TG: When I was little i was taught to say please and thank you, that I couldn't comment on fat ladies in the supermarket. And I recently went to a talent show at an autism school and some of [the kids] were dressed as complete slobs in front of 500 people. I think that's ridiculous.
WP: When were you diagnosed?
TG:Well, I'm fifty-eight so I was originally diagnosed as brain damaged. And I had the full blown symptoms. I had no speech until I was three and half to four years old.
WP: What are your thoughts on coping with an adulthood diagnosis?
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
Sometimes in an adult a formal diagnose isn't all that wise. I think a lot of people can get the DSM-IV from amazon read the criteria and they're done. And a lot of these older engineers don't even know what aspergers is...
I get concerned that sometimes this diagnosis can hold a person back.
See, the thing is, It's a continuum. When does a computer nerd become Aspergers? There is no black and white dividing line. I was full blown autistic, but then as you move up the scale to science nerds--as you move up the scale, when is computer nerd a medical diagnosis? It's not clear cut.
I think the Human brain is so complicated that an absolutely perfectly wired human brain wouldn't ever be possible.
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What article? Link?
I'm guessing this one, although only New Scientist suscribers can see the whole article:
http://www.newscientisttech.com/channel/tech/mg19325917.100-when-sociable-computing-meets-autism.html
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Didn't mean it? Please. She's a self-serving old bitch with a god-complex categorising the useless autistics and the useful ones. She acted like a helpless retard when she was younger, and now that her mind has grasped most of the social norms, she's become an egotist with a penchant for eugenics.
Give her a few more years, and then she'll suffer from pure dementia, the silly old granny. Mwahahaha!
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Didn't mean it? Please. She's a self-serving old bitch with a god-complex categorising the useless autistics and the useful ones. She acted like a helpless retard when she was younger, and now that her mind has grasped most of the social norms, she's become an egotist with a penchant for eugenics.
Give her a few more years, and then she'll suffer from pure dementia, the silly old granny. Mwahahaha!
I know she had a lot more challenges when she was younger. That's why I would think she, of all people, would not really intend to say that the person who she was when she was younger is less worthy of being included in society than the person who has written books and developed more efficient animal slaughter techniques. I attended one of her talks and even met her in person and she does not seem like the sort of person to mean this. Maybe she misspoke.
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Didn't mean it? Please. She's a self-serving old bitch with a god-complex categorising the useless autistics and the useful ones. She acted like a helpless retard when she was younger, and now that her mind has grasped most of the social norms, she's become an egotist with a penchant for eugenics.
Give her a few more years, and then she'll suffer from pure dementia, the silly old granny. Mwahahaha!
I know she had a lot more challenges when she was younger. That's why I would think she, of all people, would not really intend to say that the person who she was when she was younger is less worthy of being included in society than the person who has written books and developed more efficient animal slaughter techniques. I attended one of her talks and even met her in person and she does not seem like the sort of person to mean this. Maybe she misspoke.
I'll believe that when she makes a formal apology to those she has offended.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
I think we have Temple Grandin and Anbuend confused here. I believe that people are talking about TG saying the nasty things. I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
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I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
I don't understand her at all. She has responded to one of my posts before. I read through it many times and then gave up because I just couldn't understand what it was about. :-\
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I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
I don't understand her at all. She has responded to one of my posts before. I read through it many times and then gave up because I just couldn't understand what it was about. :-\
She uses big words like Vivi, I suppose?
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
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I know she had a lot more challenges when she was younger. That's why I would think she, of all people, would not really intend to say that the person who she was when she was younger is less worthy of being included in society than the person who has written books and developed more efficient animal slaughter techniques.
Why? Sometimes the things people work the hardest to overcome are the things they abhor in themselves, and so by proxy they abhor them in others.
In this case, I would rather hold her responsible for her words than excuse them because she's likely a good person.
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I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
I don't understand her at all. She has responded to one of my posts before. I read through it many times and then gave up because I just couldn't understand what it was about. :-\
She uses big words like Vivi, I suppose?
No that is not it. I understand Vivi's writing. I have felt frustration with myself when reading anbuend's posts. I feel that I am not smart enough. It's just something I have to deal with.
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I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
I don't understand her at all. She has responded to one of my posts before. I read through it many times and then gave up because I just couldn't understand what it was about. :-\
She uses big words like Vivi, I suppose?
No that is not it. I understand Vivi's writing. I have felt frustration with myself when reading anbuend's posts. I feel that I am not smart enough. It's just something I have to deal with.
Can she do the things you seem to have a knack with?
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and drop
And I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
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I dont think there would be much there... too hot!
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:LMAO:
:plus:
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I dont think there would be much there... too hot!
I've danced there.
It's better than you think.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and dropAnd I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
If you can't be assed, then why expect anyone else to be assed for you?
Somehow, you should know that you accussing me of exaggerating is irrelevant. I'm not the only one who thinks you are being a tosser, pumpkin.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and dropAnd I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
If you can't be assed, then why expect anyone else to be assed for you?
Somehow, you should know that you accussing me of exaggerating is irrelevant. I'm not the only one who thinks you are being a tosser, pumpkin.
Because something that would take me half an hour to do that could be done in seconds by someone else, makes more sense for that someone else to do it. Who are these others who think i am a tosser, i want to see how accurate my mental list is...
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and dropAnd I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
If you can't be assed, then why expect anyone else to be assed for you?
Somehow, you should know that you accussing me of exaggerating is irrelevant. I'm not the only one who thinks you are being a tosser, pumpkin.
Because something that would take me half an hour to do that could be done in seconds by someone else, makes more sense for that someone else to do it. Who are these others who think i am a tosser, i want to see how accurate my mental list is...
You could have done it in the time it's taken you to make your point about how others should do it for you. The hilarious thing is then you expect me to give you a list of who thinks you are a tosser. Figure it out yourself.
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and dropAnd I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
If you can't be assed, then why expect anyone else to be assed for you?
Somehow, you should know that you accussing me of exaggerating is irrelevant. I'm not the only one who thinks you are being a tosser, pumpkin.
Because something that would take me half an hour to do that could be done in seconds by someone else, makes more sense for that someone else to do it. Who are these others who think i am a tosser, i want to see how accurate my mental list is...
You could have done it in the time it's taken you to make your point about how others should do it for you. The hilarious thing is then you expect me to give you a list of who thinks you are a tosser. Figure it out yourself.
I have figured it out more or less who thinks i am a tosser, i just wondered if you could back up your assertation. Seriously why are you so bothered about me making a small request, we both could save time by you not blowing it out of proportion. You are making an issue out of a picky thing, why?
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i doubt it - anubend is one of the most articulate, intelligent and thoughtful people i've ever come across. there's no way she could make anything associated with herself look like a fool.
Edit, the article Callaway posted is probably the one. Could someone cut and paste from NS who is a sub there please?
What? Can't you do it yourself?
On a funnier note, in the interview with TG, I love this bit;
TG: Well I think the most important thing that I find is happening is a lot of people are functioning reasonably well at work but their married life is a mess because the spouse doesn't understand what's going on. The best thing in that situation is reading a lot of books.
(Does she mean read a lot of books so you don't have to talk to your partner? :laugh: This woman is goooood!)
Nope i am not a subscriber and cant access the whole article....
What books is she recommending that people read?
Hadron, even if I was a subscriber, I would have no intention of fucking reading the article and cutting and pasting it back here for you is my point. Stop telling people what to do ie; get articles for you, remind you, adjust chat rooms to suit you. It's annoying.
I have the article in my desk. Others do not, but are making assertations about it and i cant be arsed to type the whole thing up when someone could drag and dropAnd I wasnt telling people to people what to do, it was a request not an assertation. You are exaggerating a little, Eclair.
If you can't be assed, then why expect anyone else to be assed for you?
Somehow, you should know that you accussing me of exaggerating is irrelevant. I'm not the only one who thinks you are being a tosser, pumpkin.
Because something that would take me half an hour to do that could be done in seconds by someone else, makes more sense for that someone else to do it. Who are these others who think i am a tosser, i want to see how accurate my mental list is...
You could have done it in the time it's taken you to make your point about how others should do it for you. The hilarious thing is then you expect me to give you a list of who thinks you are a tosser. Figure it out yourself.
I have figured it out more or less who thinks i am a tosser, i just wondered if you could back up your assertation. Seriously why are you so bothered about me making a small request, we both could save time by you not blowing it out of proportion. You are making an issue out of a picky thing, why?
If I could have found it without buying a suscription, I would have cut and pasted it already. If nobody is a suscriber, it is really not a big deal, we will just have to do without it.
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I'm in agreement with you about Anbuend, plus she's got a great artistic and creative sense. I'v known Anbuend for quite some time!
I don't understand her at all. She has responded to one of my posts before. I read through it many times and then gave up because I just couldn't understand what it was about. :-\
She uses big words like Vivi, I suppose?
No that is not it. I understand Vivi's writing. I have felt frustration with myself when reading anbuend's posts. I feel that I am not smart enough. It's just something I have to deal with.
Can she do the things you seem to have a knack with?
I don't know what I have a knack with from your point of view, but I think she can do what I can and more. She knows a lot.
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who fucking cares. that site sucks
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who fucking cares. that site sucks
This thread in 6 words, brilliant synopsis richard!
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AFF was the first place i registered at.
I forgot my name and password though*shrugs* They seemed okay at the time, but I guess not?
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no. first off there boards site layout sucks, and they have there usernames like this username and im shure something else like that. its not eye appealing at all :P
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no. first off there boards site layout sucks, and they have there usernames like this username and im shure something else like that. its not eye appealing at all :P
You missed of the minor point that it is full of crackpot schemes and ideas, or maybe you didnt get past their interface to see it...
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who fucking cares. that site sucks
Botom line, EVERYBODY has a site that SUCKS, somewhere, for me it's "Famsecretsociety" aka famsecretpolicesociety, or wp in miniature. For some AFF sucks, AI sucks, blah, blah blah. There's a lot of sites out there, find one that suits you and stop bitching about others that don't.
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who fucking cares. that site sucks
Botom line, EVERYBODY has a site that SUCKS, somewhere, for me it's "Famsecretsociety" aka famsecretpolicesociety, or wp in miniature. For some AFF sucks, AI sucks, blah, blah blah. There's a lot of sites out there, find one that suits you and stop bitching about others that don't.
You have got to commend him for a reply that is succinct and to the point. Even if you totally disagree with it.
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I DON't totally disagree with it. If he's just venting great, if not, then it's a pointless waste of thought to be pissed off at any site. But, sometimes the bitching about sites never stops and thats where I get annoyed/frustrated.
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I DON't totally disagree with it. If he's just venting great, if not, then it's a pointless waste of thought to be pissed off at any site. But, sometimes the bitching about sites never stops and thats where I get annoyed/frustrated.
He may have his reasons, but seriously i think he is just trying to get back into the reggae of posting. I doubt he is trying to offend anyone here intentionally, As for the bitching, it does get boring, and has pretty much alienated me a little as i dont post on any of these other sites.
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AFF was the first place i registered at.
I forgot my name and password though*shrugs* They seemed okay at the time, but I guess not?
Yeah, AFF was my first autism board too. Really, I still don't see the point in picking apart autism support sites.
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I DON't totally disagree with it. If he's just venting great, if not, then it's a pointless waste of thought to be pissed off at any site. But, sometimes the bitching about sites never stops and thats where I get annoyed/frustrated.
I agree, venting is fine, but after three or four times, it becomes the same as whining. The problem is that some boards are so big and their ex-communicated membership is so big, that it is hard to tell the difference between venting and whining.