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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 17, 2017, 04:04:04 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html
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It's just a political stunt to try and reinforce that Obama is all liberal etc as well as dampening the triumph of Trump letting Assange off, if he does. Though the press will just say he is being rewarded for the hideous crime of exposing Clinton's crimes and because Assange is a Russian agent.
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You think Trump is going to let Assange off?
I read that Assange agreed to be extradited to the USA in return for Chelsea Manning being let off. That would be quite the coup for freedom of information if they both got off.
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You think Trump is going to let Assange off?
I read that Assange agreed to be extradited to the USA in return for Chelsea Manning being let off. That would be quite the coup for freedom of information if they both got off.
The article made a good point that it weakens the case against a publisher when the source is pardoned.
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She was not pardoned, though.
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It's absolutely disgusting how much worse the USA treats its whistleblowers than its child abusers and sexual predators.
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She was not pardoned, though.
Fair point. Commutation, yes. Though still agree it weakens the case against Assange.
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It's funny; the day before it happened I was talking with the boyfriend about this; he brought up Snowden, I countered with Manning, frankly on basis of need. Chelsea manning needed this more than Edward Snowden did. He's OK. He's OK in Russia, but he's OK. Chelsea Manning is not OK where she is right now.
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Yes, I think it was the right thing to do.
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
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I find it funny how Obama dismissed Snowden as a hacker...I think hackers are often incredibly intelligent. I admire great intelligence, esp. when a good heart goes with it.
I don't think he got very far though, people don't care that they're being watched and hacked into. :/
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
You're a real humanitarian.
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It's funny; the day before it happened I was talking with the boyfriend about this; he brought up Snowden, I countered with Manning, frankly on basis of need. Chelsea manning needed this more than Edward Snowden did. He's OK. He's OK in Russia, but he's OK. Chelsea Manning is not OK where she is right now.
I think it's more like pandering to the LBGTQ community.
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Pandering? FFS, she's been locked up for what? 7 years?
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
You're a real humanitarian.
Don't think I've ever claimed to be one have I fuckwit? That being said, I'm a much better one than you as I actually care about humans in general, where as you base your caring on race and gender as well as who you do or do not criticise. :wanker:
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It's funny; the day before it happened I was talking with the boyfriend about this; he brought up Snowden, I countered with Manning, frankly on basis of need. Chelsea manning needed this more than Edward Snowden did. He's OK. He's OK in Russia, but he's OK. Chelsea Manning is not OK where she is right now.
I think it's more like pandering to the LBGTQ community.
It's a bit of that of course, but also a smokescreen as Obama relaxes online information sharing rules between the NSA and intelligence agencies. Despite the media's fawning and completely ignoring all his crimes, he has to go down as one of the worst Presidents ever, especially given the outrageous hype and promise beforehand.
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Pandering? FFS, she's been locked up for what? 7 years?
Do you know what Lame Duck is??
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
You're a real humanitarian.
Don't think I've ever claimed to be one have I fuckwit? That being said, I'm a much better one than you as I actually care about humans in general, where as you base your caring on race and gender as well as who you do or do not criticise. :wanker:
So much anger. :hug:
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Pandering? FFS, she's been locked up for what? 7 years?
Do you know what Lame Duck is??
You? :zoinks:
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
You're a real humanitarian.
Don't think I've ever claimed to be one have I fuckwit? That being said, I'm a much better one than you as I actually care about humans in general, where as you base your caring on race and gender as well as who you do or do not criticise. :wanker:
So much anger. :hug:
I appreciate your comforting hugs. I will be there to comfort you when the next European country votes against the EU :hug:
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Pandering? FFS, she's been locked up for what? 7 years?
Do you know what Lame Duck is??
You? :zoinks:
No, you, for always trying to claim victory while in the jaws of defeat.
Now I know how your wife feels.
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I think she should be released. If the only reason is she is LBTQ , that's irritating. Snowden should be next.
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I thought Cleocatra was our resident duck.
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He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so. Obama is scum.
You're a real humanitarian.
Don't think I've ever claimed to be one have I fuckwit? That being said, I'm a much better one than you as I actually care about humans in general, where as you base your caring on race and gender as well as who you do or do not criticise. :wanker:
So much anger. :hug:
I appreciate your comforting hugs. I will be there to comfort you when the next European country votes against the EU :hug:
Doesn't it feel great to be kind? :zoinks:
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I thought Cleocatra was our resident duck.
I am the duck. But I'm cleocatra now.
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Snowden doesn't deserve being pardoned. He has served no time for his crime.
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They should give him a medal.
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Snowden doesn't deserve being pardoned. He has served no time for his crime.
Crime? ???