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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: RageBeoulve on July 25, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
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Who are attacking the United States have been retrieved. Good. Now we know who to vote out of the house, and put in prison if necessary.
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http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/113/house/1/412 (http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/113/house/1/412)
Robert B. Aderholt
R AL-4
Rodney Alexander
R LA-5
Robert E. Andrews
D NJ-1
Michele Bachmann
R MN-6
Ron Barber
D AZ-2
Andy Barr
R KY-6
John Barrow
D GA-12
Dan Benishek
R MI-1
Ami Bera
D CA-7
Gus Bilirakis
R FL-12
Timothy H. Bishop
D NY-1
Sanford D. Bishop Jr.
D GA-2
John A. Boehner
R OH-8
Jo Bonner
R AL-1
Charles Boustany Jr.
R LA-3
Kevin Brady
R TX-8
Mo Brooks
R AL-5
Susan Brooks
R IN-5
Corrine Brown
D FL-5
Julia Brownley
D CA-26
Larry Bucshon
R IN-8
G. K. Butterfield
D NC-1
Ken Calvert
R CA-42
Dave Camp
R MI-4
Eric Cantor
R VA-7
Shelley Moore Capito
R WV-2
John Carney
D DE-1
John Carter
R TX-31
Kathy Castor
D FL-14
Joaquin Castro
D TX-20
Tom Cole
R OK-4
Chris Collins
R NY-27
Doug Collins
R GA-9
K. Michael Conaway
R TX-11
Paul Cook
R CA-8
Jim Cooper
D TN-5
Jim Costa
D CA-16
Tom Cotton
R AR-4
Rick Crawford
R AR-1
Ander Crenshaw
R FL-4
Henry Cuellar
D TX-28
John Culberson
R TX-7
Susan A. Davis
D CA-53
John Delaney
D MD-6
Jeffrey Denham
R CA-10
Charlie Dent
R PA-15
Mario Diaz-Balart
R FL-25
Tammy Duckworth
D IL-8
Renee Ellmers
R NC-2
Eliot L. Engel
D NY-16
Bill Enyart
D IL-12
Elizabeth Esty
D CT-5
Bill Flores
R TX-17
J. Randy Forbes
R VA-4
Jeff Fortenberry
R NE-1
Bill Foster
D IL-11
Virginia Foxx
R NC-5
Lois Frankel
D FL-22
Trent Franks
R AZ-8
Rodney Frelinghuysen
R NJ-11
Pete Gallego
D TX-23
Joe Garcia
D FL-26
Jim Gerlach
R PA-6
Bob Gibbs
R OH-7
Phil Gingrey
R GA-11
Robert W. Goodlatte
R VA-6
Kay Granger
R TX-12
Sam Graves
R MO-6
Al Green
D TX-9
Mike Grimm
R NY-11
Brett Guthrie
R KY-2
Luis V. Gutierrez
D IL-4
Colleen Hanabusa
D HI-1
Richard Hanna
R NY-22
Gregg Harper
R MS-3
Vicky Hartzler
R MO-4
Doc Hastings
R WA-4
Denny Heck
D WA-10
Joe Heck
R NV-3
Jeb Hensarling
R TX-5
Brian Higgins
D NY-26
Jim Himes
D CT-4
Rubén Hinojosa
D TX-15
George Holding
R NC-13
Steny H. Hoyer
D MD-5
Richard Hudson
R NC-8
Duncan D. Hunter
R CA-50
Robert Hurt
R VA-5
Steve Israel
D NY-3
Darrell Issa
R CA-49
Sheila Jackson-Lee
D TX-18
Eddie Bernice Johnson
D TX-30
Hank Johnson
D GA-4
Sam Johnson
R TX-3
Dave Joyce
R OH-14
Marcy Kaptur
D OH-9
Mike Kelly
R PA-3
Robin Kelly
D IL-2
Joseph P. Kennedy III
D MA-4
Derek Kilmer
D WA-6
Ron Kind
D WI-3
Peter T. King
R NY-2
Steve King
R IA-4
Adam Kinzinger
R IL-16
Ann Kirkpatrick
D AZ-1
John Kline
R MN-2
Ann McLane Kuster
D NH-2
Leonard Lance
R NJ-7
Jim Langevin
D RI-2
James Lankford
R OK-5
Rick Larsen
D WA-2
Tom Latham
R IA-3
Robert E. Latta
R OH-5
Sander M. Levin
D MI-9
Daniel Lipinski
D IL-3
Frank A. LoBiondo
R NJ-2
Billy Long
R MO-7
Nita M. Lowey
D NY-17
Frank D. Lucas
R OK-3
Blaine Luetkemeyer
R MO-3
Sean Patrick Maloney
D NY-18
Tom Marino
R PA-10
Jim Matheson
D UT-4
Kevin McCarthy
R CA-23
Michael McCaul
R TX-10
Mike McIntyre
D NC-7
Howard P. McKeon
R CA-25
David McKinley
R WV-1
Jerry McNerney
D CA-9
Pat Meehan
R PA-7
Gregory W. Meeks
D NY-5
Grace Meng
D NY-6
Luke Messer
R IN-6
Candice S. Miller
R MI-10
Jeff Miller
R FL-1
Patrick Murphy
D FL-18
Tim Murphy
R PA-18
Randy Neugebauer
R TX-19
Kristi Noem
R SD-1
Devin Nunes
R CA-22
Alan Nunnelee
R MS-1
Pete Olson
R TX-22
Steven Palazzo
R MS-4
Erik Paulsen
R MN-3
Donald M. Payne Jr.
D NJ-10
Nancy Pelosi
D CA-12
Gary Peters
D MI-14
Scott Peters
D CA-52
Collin C. Peterson
D MN-7
Robert Pittenger
R NC-9
Joe Pitts
R PA-16
Mike Pompeo
R KS-4
David E. Price
D NC-4
Mike Quigley
D IL-5
Tom Reed
R NY-23
Dave Reichert
R WA-8
Jim Renacci
R OH-16
Scott Rigell
R VA-2
Martha Roby
R AL-2
Harold Rogers
R KY-5
Mike D. Rogers
R AL-3
Mike Rogers
R MI-8
Tom Rooney
R FL-17
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
R FL-27
Peter Roskam
R IL-6
Ed Royce
R CA-39
Raul Ruiz
D CA-36
Jon Runyan
R NJ-3
C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger
D MD-2
Paul D. Ryan
R WI-1
Tim Ryan
D OH-13
Jan Schakowsky
D IL-9
Brad Schneider
D IL-10
Allyson Y. Schwartz
D PA-13
Austin Scott
R GA-8
David Scott
D GA-13
Pete Sessions
R TX-32
Terri Sewell
D AL-7
John Shimkus
R IL-15
Bill Shuster
R PA-9
Mike Simpson
R ID-2
Krysten Sinema
D AZ-9
Albio Sires
D NJ-8
Louise M. Slaughter
D NY-25
Adam Smith
D WA-9
Adrian Smith
R NE-3
Lamar Smith
R TX-21
Steve Stivers
R OH-15
Marlin Stutzman
R IN-3
Lee Terry
R NE-2
Mike Thompson
D CA-5
William M. Thornberry
R TX-13
Pat Tiberi
R OH-12
Dina Titus
D NV-1
Michael R. Turner
R OH-10
Fred Upton
R MI-6
David Valadao
R CA-21
Chris Van Hollen
D MD-8
Juan Vargas
D CA-51
Marc Veasey
D TX-33
Peter J. Visclosky
D IN-1
Ann Wagner
R MO-2
Tim Walberg
R MI-7
Greg Walden
R OR-2
Jackie Walorski
R IN-2
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
D FL-23
Daniel Webster
R FL-10
Brad Wenstrup
R OH-2
Lynn Westmoreland
R GA-3
Edward Whitfield
R KY-1
Frederica Wilson
D FL-24
Robert J. Wittman
R VA-1
Frank R. Wolf
R VA-10
Steve Womack
R AR-3
Rob Woodall
R GA-7
C. W. Bill Young
R FL-13
Todd Young
R IN-9
Indeed. What ARE these traitors still doing representing us?
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:litigious: Sic semper tyrannis! :viking:
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:litigious: Sic semper tyrannis! :viking:
We need more like you over here, Lit. Well, without the desire to fuck kids. :P
(I don't claim you would do that. I have done some research into pedophilia, and it seems to be consistently claimed that many people cannot help these feelings, and choose not to act on them because they know it is wrong. Hopefully that's all your remarks mean.)
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand.
Nay-sayers to defunding the nsa nationwide spying activity. These are all the people that voted no to cutting funds to that program. They belong in prison.
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
Rage knows best! :zoinks:
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the ones with (R) next to their names are the main cunts
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
In a constitutional democracy like ours, Congress doesn't have the power to override the Constitution without passing an amendment and having it properly ratified. I don't know if that's what Rage was getting at.
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Surprise my congressman is not on the list. Look at the map in the link it's an odd mix of conservative and liberal areas
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the ones with (R) next to their names are the main cunts
In case anyone doesn't know, R = Republican, D = Democrat.
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
No. In my version of democracy, this would have never been turned into a police state in the first place. It would actually be a democracy, and nobody would even consider such nonsense.
the ones with (R) next to their names are the main cunts
It doesn't matter if they have (PEEPEE) by their name to me. Anyone supporting terrorism inside my own country is a criminal.
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the ones with (R) next to their names are the main cunts
In case anyone doesn't know, R = Republican, D = Democrat.
I = Independent
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
:o
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
In a constitutional democracy like ours, Congress doesn't have the power to override the Constitution without passing an amendment and having it properly ratified. I don't know if that's what Rage was getting at.
Doesn't change a thing. You can't like every opinion but in a democracy you'll just have to live with it.
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
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Off with their heads! :arrr: :arrr: :arrr:
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
In a constitutional democracy like ours, Congress doesn't have the power to override the Constitution without passing an amendment and having it properly ratified. I don't know if that's what Rage was getting at.
Doesn't change a thing. You can't like every opinion but in a democracy you'll just have to live with it.
If someone with standing has a problem with an unconstitutional law, s/he can theoretically take whoever uses the law to court and have it nullified. :dunno: Practically speaking, this aspect of checks and balances doesn't seem to be working so well lately. :(
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the ones with (R) next to their names are the main cunts
In case anyone doesn't know, R = Republican, D = Democrat.
I know - that's what I was saying :P
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
In a constitutional democracy like ours, Congress doesn't have the power to override the Constitution without passing an amendment and having it properly ratified. I don't know if that's what Rage was getting at.
Doesn't change a thing. You can't like every opinion but in a democracy you'll just have to live with it.
If someone with standing has a problem with an unconstitutional law, s/he can theoretically take whoever uses the law to court and have it nullified. :dunno: Practically speaking, this aspect of checks and balances doesn't seem to be working so well lately. :(
Which is a good indicator that most of the current crop of legislators need to go
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
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So in your version of democracy, only the *right* votes are allowed? :-\
In a constitutional democracy like ours, Congress doesn't have the power to override the Constitution without passing an amendment and having it properly ratified. I don't know if that's what Rage was getting at.
Doesn't change a thing. You can't like every opinion but in a democracy you'll just have to live with it.
If someone with standing has a problem with an unconstitutional law, s/he can theoretically take whoever uses the law to court and have it nullified. :dunno: Practically speaking, this aspect of checks and balances doesn't seem to be working so well lately. :(
Which is a good indicator that most of the current crop of legislators need to go
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The reason why these congressmen and women keep getting elected, is because everyone at the local level LOVE their representative.
But society as a whole hate congress. I met my rep, and I thought she was quite fat. Her name is Liz Archuleta
reminded me of duckfetishgirl.
:laugh:
But in all seriousness. I think that the reason why no change ever happens, is because its a well oiled machine in Washington. both democrats and republicans alike, fall into place because of steeped tradition. fall out of line and you will be delt with, which usually means not being re-elected. people usually only vote out a congressman, if something really bad happens. Like that Anthony Weiner guy who posted pictures of his Weiner. Haha, anyways you may vote out the current congress but they will be replaced with more of the same. Nothing will ever change
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The reason why these congressmen and women keep getting elected, is because everyone at the local level LOVE their representative.
But society as a whole hate congress. I met my rep, and I thought she was quite fat. Her name is Liz Archuleta
reminded me of duckfetishgirl.
:laugh:
But in all seriousness. I think that the reason why no change ever happens, is because its a well oiled machine in Washington. both democrats and republicans alike, fall into place because of steeped tradition. fall out of line and you will be delt with, which usually means not being re-elected. people usually only vote out a congressman, if something really bad happens. Like that Anthony Weiner guy who posted pictures of his Weiner. Haha, anyways you may vote out the current congress but they will be replaced with more of the same. Nothing will ever change
WRONG. If people actually cared enough and became involved, they would be aware of who they were electing to represent them, and things WOULD change.
And I honestly don't see the big deal about the guy tweeting some boner pics. That's his own business.
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Things will never change. sure they say all kinds of shit to get elected. Once they arrive in DC they fall into line however
Something drastic would have to change in our countrys landscape for these congressmen to actually live up (as a whole) to anything they promise while they are trying to get elected
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The reason why these congressmen and women keep getting elected, is because everyone at the local level LOVE their representative.
But society as a whole hate congress. I met my rep, and I thought she was quite fat. Her name is Liz Archuleta
reminded me of duckfetishgirl.
:laugh:
But in all seriousness. I think that the reason why no change ever happens, is because its a well oiled machine in Washington. both democrats and republicans alike, fall into place because of steeped tradition. fall out of line and you will be delt with, which usually means not being re-elected. people usually only vote out a congressman, if something really bad happens. Like that Anthony Weiner guy who posted pictures of his Weiner. Haha, anyways you may vote out the current congress but they will be replaced with more of the same. Nothing will ever change
Aww how sweet! You see me everywhere now. You must be smitten. :P
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Things will never change. sure they say all kinds of shit to get elected. Once they arrive in DC they fall into line however
Something drastic would have to change in our countrys landscape for these congressmen to actually live up (as a whole) to anything they promise while they are trying to get elected
That's why we need to shrink the size of federal government and be more involved in how it is run, Richard. Of course you have no control over something if you aren't paying attention to it.
"Oh its election time!" *watches the presidential debate* "Ummmm that one. That one is handsome" *votes*
Its like saying, "UGH I will never get out of this chair!". Yes, that statement may be true for you if you don't actually plan on getting out of the chair. But if you make an effort, you can get to a standing position.
This is not rocket science. Yes, things will change, if the American people decide to change them. Don't be such a baby, Richard.
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You can add New Jersey Governor and potential presidential candidate Chris Christie to the list he says that criticizing the NSA's domestic spying operation is dangerous and can inhibit the federal government’s ability to stop terrorism. What a dick and to think I was starting to think he wasn't that bad for a Republican
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/chris-christie--rise-of-libertarian-views-like-rand-paul-s-is-%E2%80%98dangerous%E2%80%99-162539832.html)
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Is there any Amendment these bastards don't infringe upon?
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Aww how sweet! You see me everywhere now. You must be smitten. :P
Not really. you look exactly like her, this is what you get to look forward to when you get older fatbaby. hahaha
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That's why we need to shrink the size of federal government and be more involved in how it is run, Richard. Of course you have no control over something if you aren't paying attention to it.
Even if you think you have control, you really don't. Money has control, you can muster up all your little voice of opposition all you want.
It wont do anything
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Aww how sweet! You see me everywhere now. You must be smitten. :P
Not really. you look exactly like her, this is what you get to look forward to when you get older fatbaby. hahaha
Not quite, Ricky Retardo. She looks better than you and has a job and a steady income. You are so jealous. :D
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first order of business you would stamp out as a congresswoman, is hunger.
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first order of business you would stamp out as a congresswoman, is hunger.
:autism:
You just aren't as funny as you were before.
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I wasn't trying to be funny. its a fact, that's exactly what you would do
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I wasn't trying to be funny. its a fact, that's exactly what you would do
No I wouldn't. I would stamp out corruption after stamping on you. :)
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you were born for this. pick up your banjo and walk in barefoot, Liz. every congress person says they would stamp out corruption
good fucking job
haha
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Ricardus stultissimus est :autism:
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you were born for this. pick up your banjo and walk in barefoot, Liz. every congress person says they would stamp out corruption
good fucking job
haha
Well I would try which is more than what you do. You don't like effort, do you? Neither do I, but I must make an effort to have the life I want.
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Is there any Amendment these bastards don't infringe upon?
Well they say everyone needs a hobby
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:tard:
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That's why we need to shrink the size of federal government and be more involved in how it is run, Richard. Of course you have no control over something if you aren't paying attention to it.
Even if you think you have control, you really don't. Money has control, you can muster up all your little voice of opposition all you want.
It wont do anything
Money means nothing if the majority gets angry and takes it from you.
Again Richard, this is you. http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280)
If you're just absolutely convinced there is nothing you can do, defeat is imminent, you have no power or voice, and you don't understand what this country is actually about... then shut the fuck up and get out of the way. Let the real patriots and citizens take care of you.
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You can add New Jersey Governor and potential presidential candidate Chris Christie to the list he says that criticizing the NSA's domestic spying operation is dangerous and can inhibit the federal government’s ability to stop terrorism. What a dick and to think I was starting to think he wasn't that bad for a Republican
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/chris-christie--rise-of-libertarian-views-like-rand-paul-s-is-%E2%80%98dangerous%E2%80%99-162539832.html)
Thank you for the info, Parts. Everything helps.
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Money means nothing if the majority gets angry and takes it from you.
Again Richard, this is you. http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280)
If you're just absolutely convinced there is nothing you can do, defeat is imminent, you have no power or voice, and you don't understand what this country is actually about... then shut the fuck up and get out of the way. Let the real patriots and citizens take care of you.
True. but the majority, do not run the country. Wealthy people do, ever hear of some no name fuck or some guy washing dishes one day and the next hes a congressman? nope. you have to first, have money. to run an election, etc
basically money to buy your spot in this game. say all of this nonsence to get elected and then, once you are in Washington fall in line with the more senior members of your party. sure you can kick scream and have your little temper tantrum on the floors of congress and symbolically unveil your long ass scroll of what a perfect world should be, but in reality this is ALL for show. once your done guess what? nothing happens. because the house speaker is the guy calling the shots and HE doesn't give a fuck
Nothing in this system will ever change, unless there is a complete and total collapse of the current government.
If you think you can get up enough support to change the system, even if you DO it still wont change.
Americans are to in love with tradition. and doing business as usual, If you seriously think you can get enough "patriots" IE the common pesents of the land to overhaul the entire system then you are more dumber than I thought. It will never happen, average joes do not make laws, or the rules. Rich people do
Show me a society where middle class actually run the country. sure they in power might talk about the middle class all the fucking time, but your seriously delusional if you think the middle class have any say so in any way shape or form. They don't
And I'm a Taoist. I could give a fuck about things because I know it will take care of itself, I don't try to alter anythings path anymore because that would be unnatural. And I am about living in harmony with nature
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Money means nothing if the majority gets angry and takes it from you.
Again Richard, this is you. http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280)
If you're just absolutely convinced there is nothing you can do, defeat is imminent, you have no power or voice, and you don't understand what this country is actually about... then shut the fuck up and get out of the way. Let the real patriots and citizens take care of you.
True. but the majority, do not run the country. Wealthy people do, ever hear of some no name fuck or some guy washing dishes one day and the next hes a congressman? nope. you have to first, have money. to run an election, etc
basically money to buy your spot in this game. say all of this nonsence to get elected and then, once you are in Washington fall in line with the more senior members of your party. sure you can kick scream and have your little temper tantrum on the floors of congress and symbolically unveil your long ass scroll of what a perfect world should be, but in reality this is ALL for show. once your done guess what? nothing happens. because the house speaker is the guy calling the shots and HE doesn't give a fuck
Nothing in this system will ever change, unless there is a complete and total collapse of the current government.
If you think you can get up enough support to change the system, even if you DO it still wont change.
Americans are to in love with tradition. and doing business as usual, If you seriously think you can get enough "patriots" IE the common pesents of the land to overhaul the entire system then you are more dumber than I thought. It will never happen, average joes do not make laws, or the rules. Rich people do
Show me a society where middle class actually run the country. sure they in power might talk about the middle class all the fucking time, but your seriously delusional if you think the middle class have any say so in any way shape or form. They don't
And I'm a Taoist. I could give a fuck about things because I know it will take care of itself, I don't try to alter anythings path anymore because that would be unnatural. And I am about living in harmony with nature
True. but the majority, do not run the country. Wealthy people do
No. This is a democracy and I will accept nothing less. I will kill to preserve that idea. Believe it.
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
What you were linking to is a vote in which some people voted against limiting the NSA data collection. In this thread you are calling them terrorists, apparently for voting in a way that did not please you.
AFAIK, simply voting is neither unconstitutional or indeed against the law where you live. If it is, your so-called democracy is already in tatters.
The whole NSA thing is fucked up and wrong, but it is not going to be fixed by calling your elected representatives terrorists.
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
What you were linking to is a vote in which some people voted against limiting the NSA data collection. In this thread you are calling them terrorists, apparently for voting in a way that did not please you.
AFAIK, simply voting is neither unconstitutional or indeed against the law where you live. If it is, your so-called democracy is already in tatters.
The whole NSA thing is fucked up and wrong, but it is not going to be fixed by calling your elected representatives terrorists.
Nice try. Most of those elects are not elected by the majority, but the wealthy. That's not democracy. It is indeed, "in tatters".
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
What you were linking to is a vote in which some people voted against limiting the NSA data collection. In this thread you are calling them terrorists, apparently for voting in a way that did not please you.
AFAIK, simply voting is neither unconstitutional or indeed against the law where you live. If it is, your so-called democracy is already in tatters.
The whole NSA thing is fucked up and wrong, but it is not going to be fixed by calling your elected representatives terrorists.
Since they vote in favour of something that any honest person would admit violates the 4th Amendment, they are committing a serious crime only by voting.
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
What you were linking to is a vote in which some people voted against limiting the NSA data collection. In this thread you are calling them terrorists, apparently for voting in a way that did not please you.
AFAIK, simply voting is neither unconstitutional or indeed against the law where you live. If it is, your so-called democracy is already in tatters.
The whole NSA thing is fucked up and wrong, but it is not going to be fixed by calling your elected representatives terrorists.
Since they vote in favour of something that any honest person would admit violates the 4th Amendment, they are committing a serious crime only by voting.
Correct. Voting is not meant to serve special intrests. Its meant to serve the entire country.
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OMG. I think I agree with Rage on this one :laugh:
Jail everyone voting against you?
No. Imprison those who are breaking the law. This nation doesn't belong to a select few influential politicians and corporate types, dude. It belongs to everyone. And when the people we've chosen to represent us not only cease to represent us, but also violate our constitution and attempt to imprison us in our own country...
Everyone is gonna have a bad time. You don't seem to understand either what i'm talking about, or what a democracy is. Or maybe you don't understand what jail is for. People who break the law are called criminals, and they go to jail in order to give them time to think about what they've done, or keep them from breaking the law anymore.
What you were linking to is a vote in which some people voted against limiting the NSA data collection. In this thread you are calling them terrorists, apparently for voting in a way that did not please you.
AFAIK, simply voting is neither unconstitutional or indeed against the law where you live. If it is, your so-called democracy is already in tatters.
The whole NSA thing is fucked up and wrong, but it is not going to be fixed by calling your elected representatives terrorists.
Nice try. Most of those elects are not elected by the majority, but the wealthy. That's not democracy. It is indeed, "in tatters".
Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy. :-\
Since they vote in favour of something that any honest person would admit violates the 4th Amendment, they are committing a serious crime only by voting.
I'm pretty sure the NSA's little project has not yet been ruled to be unconstitutional.
Again, what the NSA is doing is fucked up and wrong, but you don't fight it by going off the deep end with conspiracy theories and name-calling everyone and everything you think is wrong with society in general. It's about credibility and about knowing how the system works. How will you affect opinions if people think you are just another nutter? Keep on doing what you do now and few will be more pleased than the NSA.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy. :-\
Since they vote in favour of something that any honest person would admit violates the 4th Amendment, they are committing a serious crime only by voting.
I'm pretty sure the NSA's little project has not yet been ruled to be unconstitutional.
Again, what the NSA is doing is fucked up and wrong, but you don't fight it by going off the deep end with conspiracy theories and name-calling everyone and everything you think is wrong with society in general. It's about credibility and about knowing how the system works. How will you affect opinions if people think you are just another nutter? Keep on doing what you do now and few will be more pleased than the NSA.
Having fun, much?
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Rage is right and his view is common knowledge in the US. Power attracts the corrupt and the House and Senate are filled with humans. If someone gives their state representative a sizable enough "campaign contribution", they would vote the way their wealthy contributor likes.
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I think a lot of what perpetuates this is learned helplessness. You can argue the side of "do something," but, frankly, the what, the how, and the expected end result are pretty big deterrents. :/
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Recte dicis, puella :(
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I think a lot of what perpetuates this is learned helplessness. You can argue the side of "do something," but, frankly, the what, the how, and the expected end result are pretty big deterrents. :/
Absolutely. It's easy to look at how a society functions from a big picture perspective and see what's inherently wrong, but it's also impossible to hold that point of view without realizing how small and inconsequential is the individual within that society.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
All right, I apologize, O-man. I went too far, saying it like that. I just don't understand how people could not see these things for what they are. Maybe Sweden is just REALLY cool or something, and you have none of these problems.
In that case, you like fishing? You like golf? Want a neighbor?
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
All right, I apologize, O-man. I went too far, saying it like that. I just don't understand how people could not see these things for what they are. Maybe Sweden is just REALLY cool or something, and you have none of these problems.
In that case, you like fishing? You like golf? Want a neighbor?
what part of the world is Odeon from?
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
All right, I apologize, O-man. I went too far, saying it like that. I just don't understand how people could not see these things for what they are. Maybe Sweden is just REALLY cool or something, and you have none of these problems.
In that case, you like fishing? You like golf? Want a neighbor?
what part of the world is Odeon from?
:lolwat:
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Oh? I thought you were confusing him with Lit or something.
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Oh? I thought you were confusing him with Lit or something.
Odeon lives on a fishing boat in the South Pacific. :M :P
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Oh? I thought you were confusing him with Lit or something.
Odeon lives on a fishing boat in the South Pacific. :M :P
It's a yacht, so grand and large he can race me about the deck in his Jaguar.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy. :-\
Since they vote in favour of something that any honest person would admit violates the 4th Amendment, they are committing a serious crime only by voting.
I'm pretty sure the NSA's little project has not yet been ruled to be unconstitutional.
Again, what the NSA is doing is fucked up and wrong, but you don't fight it by going off the deep end with conspiracy theories and name-calling everyone and everything you think is wrong with society in general. It's about credibility and about knowing how the system works. How will you affect opinions if people think you are just another nutter? Keep on doing what you do now and few will be more pleased than the NSA.
Having fun, much?
No, it's like arguing with a brick wall.
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Rage is right and his view is common knowledge in the US. Power attracts the corrupt and the House and Senate are filled with humans. If someone gives their state representative a sizable enough "campaign contribution", they would vote the way their wealthy contributor likes.
Of course, and the same applies all over the world. What he isn't right about is that not everyone who votes against his opinions is corrupt.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
All right, I apologize, O-man. I went too far, saying it like that. I just don't understand how people could not see these things for what they are. Maybe Sweden is just REALLY cool or something, and you have none of these problems.
In that case, you like fishing? You like golf? Want a neighbor?
:laugh:
It's cool, Rage. Not mad at you or anything, we just disagree. It's an internet message board and that's all it is.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
Funny, because although I admit I was too severe there, I do think a bit of outrage was called for. What you said truly was ridiculous, but again.. I am trying to factor in that perhaps you just don't know how things actually are here. Since you're not from here and everything.
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I believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. I also think that the Breivik thing was a conspiracy. I believe that Breivik believes in what he did but that someone "helped" him somehow.
But mostly I'm very skeptical to these things.
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I believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. I also think that the Breivik thing was a conspiracy. I believe that Breivik believes in what he did but that someone "helped" him somehow.
But mostly I'm very skeptical to these things.
I do find it very hard to believe that those planes would not have been shot down before getting so far out of their flight plan.
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They didn't know they were hijacked straight away though, did they?
And even then, until they know exactly where they're heading, it would be a pretty dodgy decision to make - to shoot down civilian aircraft. THat's obviously before the first plane hit, ie before they knew they were going to be used to hit a building.
Before 9/11 most hijacked planes wouldn't have been suspected of being used to fly into a skyscraper.
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It's much easier now, in a post-9/11 world, to see shooting it down as a main option.
Plus, once they're over a city/suburbs, would you wanna make the decision to shoot it down?
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It's much easier now, in a post-9/11 world, to see shooting it down as a main option.
Plus, once they're over a city/suburbs, would you wanna make the decision to shoot it down?
Yeah, that's a great point, actually. It would be a tough call.
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On the surface, shooting them down seems like the best idea, but that's now we know what happened, and without thinking about it as it would have been at the time.
Until they know for sure that there's no way the hijackers are after anything, there's no way you can negotiate with them etc,then shooting it down is basically killing your own citizens.
And then there's obviously where the plane hits after you've shot it down, and I'm guessing the debris from an airliner traveling at that speed would cover a pretty wide area. Heading towards New York, it would undoubtedly have landed in some suburban area with shchools and houses
Plus it was, what, fifteen minutes (?) after the first plane hit the first tower that the second one hit. So it's only in that time frame that you know for sure what's gonna happen and you have to make that decision. That's not long, and the plane's likely gonna land in a densely populated area. So you're fucked either way then.
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On the surface, shooting them down seems like the best idea, but that's now we know what happened, and without thinking about it as it would have been at the time.
Until they know for sure that there's no way the hijackers are after anything, there's no way you can negotiate with them etc,then shooting it down is basically killing your own citizens.
And then there's obviously where the plane hits after you've shot it down, and I'm guessing the debris from an airliner traveling at that speed would cover a pretty wide area. Heading towards New York, it would undoubtedly have landed in some suburban area with shchools and houses
Plus it was, what, fifteen minutes (?) after the first plane hit the first tower that the second one hit. So it's only in that time frame that you know for sure what's gonna happen and you have to make that decision. That's not long, and the plane's likely gonna land in a densely populated area. So you're fucked either way then.
So the question is, DO WE HAVE A GEOMETRY AND PHYSICS GENIUS IN THE HOUSE THAT CAN PREDICT THE FLIGHT PATH OF THESE ROGUE PLANES? Oh shit we do? Oh they're going for the twin towers? Well... either all the people in the towers die, or they fall in a residential area. Hmmm...
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That's a tough one
You'd have possibly less deaths, but it would almost certainly involve children
I dunno though, I have no idea how these things would work out, but I'm guessing it would be at least AS bad as what happened, just different. Probably the only thing you'd have changed would be that you wouldnt have the image of the smoking/crumbling towers.
You'd have just as much death and carnage though, just on the ground
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
Funny, because although I admit I was too severe there, I do think a bit of outrage was called for. What you said truly was ridiculous, but again.. I am trying to factor in that perhaps you just don't know how things actually are here. Since you're not from here and everything.
You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
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I believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. I also think that the Breivik thing was a conspiracy. I believe that Breivik believes in what he did but that someone "helped" him somehow.
But mostly I'm very skeptical to these things.
I do find it very hard to believe that those planes would not have been shot down before getting so far out of their flight plan.
They don't always have people sitting in planes on the runway waiting for the call to action in case this happens you realize even then they would have to find them and reach them
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
Funny, because although I admit I was too severe there, I do think a bit of outrage was called for. What you said truly was ridiculous, but again.. I am trying to factor in that perhaps you just don't know how things actually are here. Since you're not from here and everything.
You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
I think the same thing about you on this.
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Aww how sweet! You see me everywhere now. You must be smitten. :P
Not really. you look exactly like her, this is what you get to look forward to when you get older fatbaby. hahaha
:tard: :autism:
Omg she's the spitting image of me. Not!
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad249/duckfetishgirl/image_zpsd4ef3fdb.jpg)
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Look great.
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
Funny, because although I admit I was too severe there, I do think a bit of outrage was called for. What you said truly was ridiculous, but again.. I am trying to factor in that perhaps you just don't know how things actually are here. Since you're not from here and everything.
You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
I think the same thing about you on this.
But you hide it so well. :zoinks:
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That's nice duck. now post the rest of the photo, of course when you crop out 90% of your body you don't look exactly like her.
Infact there are a few pictures she took exactly like yours and she doesn't look that bad either. until you see the rest of her
:zoinks:
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Funny. Wikipedia seems to have a different take on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States#House_of_Representatives_elections)
Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
Oh my god, man. Its like.. its like you are unable to think, or something. Strangely, nothing is said about the wealthy
LOLOLOL OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING RETARD! JESUS.
This, my friend, is why your opinions won't ever matter. Protest all you want with all the outrage you can muster, but everyone will always see you as just another kook.
Funny, because although I admit I was too severe there, I do think a bit of outrage was called for. What you said truly was ridiculous, but again.. I am trying to factor in that perhaps you just don't know how things actually are here. Since you're not from here and everything.
You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
I think the same thing about you on this.
But you hide it so well. :zoinks:
Yes well of course that- OH I see what you did there. :lol1:
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And then theres these guys.
Anonymous - Operation Prism #OpPrism (Message to NSA - National Security Agency) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4quKtrxRrE#ws)
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165544750298543&set=gm.431978166917753&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165544750298543&set=gm.431978166917753&type=1&theater)
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ANONYMOUS: WARNING WE ARE IN AN OBAMA POLICE STATE OCCUPY THE WORLD ENGAGED....V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN7KWZwqFw4#)
^Its the fucking truth, man. Stop ignoring it.
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The President talks about his Fourth Reich. "We will develop an appropriate legal regime." *shudder*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTR6j3glM_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTR6j3glM_w)
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That's nice duck. now post the rest of the photo, of course when you crop out 90% of your body you don't look exactly like her.
Infact there are a few pictures she took exactly like yours and she doesn't look that bad either. until you see the rest of her
:zoinks:
You clearly have weeble envy. :M
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The reason why these congressmen and women keep getting elected, is because everyone at the local level LOVE their representative.
But society as a whole hate congress. I met my rep, and I thought she was quite fat. Her name is Liz Archuleta
Archuleta is a Castilian surname with Basque origins.
Another Basque-American of note is David Archuleta, of American Idol fame. :M
/meaningful contribution :P
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You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
I'm not entirely sure he does, which is why I have by and large stopped bothering to directly engage in debates with him.
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Wall Street is one.
Dick Cheney and Halliburton is another.
The republican congress is another.
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You are full of shit, Rage. You do know that, right?
I'm not entirely sure he does, which is why I have by and large stopped bothering to directly engage in debates with him.
And i'm just going to go ahead and call you a bitch.
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Can you feel the love in here? :zoinks:
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Can you feel the love in here? :zoinks:
I don't. Not for people as "trendy" as Elle.
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Can you feel the love in here? :zoinks:
I don't. Not for people as "trendy" as Elle.
Holy shit, I'm trendy now?!?
Clearly, I'm moving up in the world.
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Can you feel the love in here? :zoinks:
I don't. Not for people as "trendy" as Elle.
Holy shit, I'm trendy now?!?
Clearly, I'm moving up in the world.
You're thinking the "trendy" suicidal way, that's for sure.