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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: odeon on April 08, 2017, 12:21:18 AM
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Some nutcase hijacked a lorry and killed four people by ramming a crowd in Stockholm yesterday. Are lorries the way to go now?
And no, I don't believe that immigration is the problem.
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Some nutcase hijacked a lorry and killed four people by ramming a crowd in Stockholm yesterday. Are lorries the way to go now?
And no, I don't believe that immigration is the problem.
Sure. I don't think it is a problem either. Immigration probably helps it.
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
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Less common than being squashed by fall furniture though
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I'm a bit surprised this isn't more common. I get a bit paranoid of crossing in front of motorists, because I had already gotten run over once several years ago.
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
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Less common than being squashed by fall furniture though
Guns nor furniture will be able to stop an assasin in a car before it is clear that it is an attack. Most of the times that becomes clear when people get hit by that car or truck.
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
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Less common than being squashed by fall furniture though
Guns nor furniture will be able to stop an assasin in a car before it is clear that it is an attack. Most of the times that becomes clear when people get hit by that car or truck.
Very true
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I'm a bit surprised this isn't more common. I get a bit paranoid of crossing in front of motorists, because I had already gotten run over once several years ago.
I am too, why bother with going though all the trouble of getting guns or bombs when all you need is a car or truck, they are everywhere and easy to get.
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And no, I don't believe that immigration is the problem.
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Denial is a difficult thing to overcome at your age.
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
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Less common than being squashed by fall furniture though
Get your facts right. It's "people crushed by furniture", and the statistics are usually quoted as the furniture being either more likely or as likely cause of death than an act of terrorism, in the United States. The rest of the world is not mentioned.
But you know, on the day when 130 people were killed by terrorists in Paris, three times as many died from cancer. Google it. It kind of sets things in perspective, to me at lest.
Does this mean that we shouldn't do anything about terrorism? Of course not. Does it mean that we should stop immigration? No, it does not, because doing so is bigoted, narrow-minded and wrong. There is not a shred of evidence suggesting it would help stop anything. Trump should know this by now, considering he's been thrown out of court more than once. It's about time his supporters learnt it too.
And no, I don't believe that immigration is the problem.
Denial is a difficult thing to overcome at your age.
Thanks for illustrating my point.
This is what I'm talking about, Al. Benji, as usual, is so clueless it hurts but with so many opinions, many of them fed to him by Trump and his kind, the kind of useful idiot Trump, Farage, Le Pen and all the rest of them depend on.
Yes, people really are that stupid.
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I bought a translation of the Koran last week. The translation is interesting because it was done in 1743. No, the book isn't that old, it's a reissue. The translation is done in paragraphs, not columns like the Bible. Also, it's extensively footnoted/explained with about 60 - 75% of each page being footnotes.
The Koran is quite confusing. I'll be reading some humane, fair treatment passages, then....... Up pops a few paragraphs of death to infidels, who is an infidel, what to do with lapsed Muslims. I'm beginning to wonder how anyone who is Muslim can keep their thoughts straight. Maybe they can't.
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But you know, on the day when 130 people were killed by terrorists in Paris, three times as many died from cancer. Google it. It kind of sets things in perspective, to me at lest.
Paris must have a lot of cancer. :aff:
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It will be everywhere. Lone wolfs with the capacity to drive can do this everywhere where there is a road and possible victims.
:(
Less common than being squashed by fall furniture though
Get your facts right. It's "people crushed by furniture", and the statistics are usually quoted as the furniture being either more likely or as likely cause of death than an act of terrorism, in the United States. The rest of the world is not mentioned.
But you know, on the day when 130 people were killed by terrorists in Paris, three times as many died from cancer. Google it. It kind of sets things in perspective, to me at lest.
Does this mean that we shouldn't do anything about terrorism? Of course not. Does it mean that we should stop immigration? No, it does not, because doing so is bigoted, narrow-minded and wrong. There is not a shred of evidence suggesting it would help stop anything. Trump should know this by now, considering he's been thrown out of court more than once. It's about time his supporters learnt it too.
Thanks for the suggestion. (It was only ever a suggestion right?) I have considered it and decided you can blow it out your arse. I hope this clears things up. Here is what I will do instead. Because you chose so very stupidly in a battle of ideas to interject statistics of falling furniture death to try to counter the horror of the actual incidents of ideologically based radical Muslim Extremism, I will interject this in every incident that comes to the board, mentioning ANY incident of said terrorism.
If YOU don't like it you can suck it up and understand that YOUR defence of ALL Muslims (that NEVER were under attack in this forum and this was highlighted over and over) and marginalising the threat of said terrorism is precisely what lead you to make such a defence. It was you not listening to the argument but seeing the word "Muslim" and losing your reasoning.
The "falling furniture" death vs deaths from radical Muslim extremism does not work well in the argument you placed it in, nor in any that I have and will insert it into, and it ages terribly as the body count rises, and the attacks increase. The world becomes less and less safe and this "statistical anomaly" or "low statistical risk" becomes an increasingly fearful reality. Throughout which your narrative of low risk comparable to falling furniture will appear again and again.
How's THAT for getting my facts straight, Odeon? :)
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
Jesus, really? This was the best counter? Radicals do not need my post on your forum to sway them to doing radical things. I hope this is abundantly clear. Fearmongering? No, it is just me stating fairly reasonable ideas. Radical Muslim Extremism is a big deal, DOES have more than theoretical effects, is not just a statistically insignificant thing, calling out Radical Muslim Extremists or Extremism does NOT smear all Muslims and does not say a damn thing about Muslims in general, Vetting Immigrants who come into a country is helpful in protecting the national security of a country and in increasingly hostile times where rampant acts of terror abound - more stringent procedures are needed, Vetting Muslims to make sure that they are not associated or have ties with said Radical Muslim Extremists is practical and sensible, One can hold a neutral position on Muslims generally and still strongly condemn all incidences of Radical Muslim Extremists, and none of any of the above is racist, unfair, mean, Bigoted, playing ionto Islamic State's hands, Islamophobic or anything else.
Hope that is clear.
Allāhu Akbar
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But you know, on the day when 130 people were killed by terrorists in Paris, three times as many died from cancer. Google it. It kind of sets things in perspective, to me at lest.
Paris must have a lot of cancer. :aff:
France's crude mortality rate is about 9 per 1000 people, and Paris' population is about 2.25 million. That means Paris probably has about 20,250 deaths per year for any reason, making for a daily average of 56. Just to set that into perspective.
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Cancer sucks.
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Cancer sucks.
True
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MMcvqYRqHs
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
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I bought a translation of the Koran last week. The translation is interesting because it was done in 1743. No, the book isn't that old, it's a reissue. The translation is done in paragraphs, not columns like the Bible. Also, it's extensively footnoted/explained with about 60 - 75% of each page being footnotes.
The Koran is quite confusing. I'll be reading some humane, fair treatment passages, then....... Up pops a few paragraphs of death to infidels, who is an infidel, what to do with lapsed Muslims. I'm beginning to wonder how anyone who is Muslim can keep their thoughts straight. Maybe they can't.
Christianity is similarly mindfucking IMO. God is all-powerful and created everything that exists,
knowing since the beginning of time that his angel Satan would turn against him and that we humans
would somehow piss him off, yet it somehow is our fault and not God's that we (supposedly) are all
sinners worthy of eternal torture in the hell he created in his infinite wisdom and mercy.
God set us up to fail, then sent himself in human form to suffer "for us" to make it up to himself
for the failure he set us up for. He takes absolutely no responsibility for what he started. Bollocks! :finger:
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Bollocks! :finger:
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I think we're going to [continue to] have a wave of copycat killings with vehicles, similar to the way columbine "inspired" a whole bunch of asshats to go on similar killing sprees (and the same way they happen in clusters, as well). I hope I'm wrong, but I know there's a media contagion effect with the shootings, so I assume there's a good chance with this shit, too.
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I see this place is quickly returning to its new natural mean.
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
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I see this place is quickly returning to its new natural mean.
What's the difference between the old natural mean and the new natural mean?
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What does that even mean? :GA:
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That people here disagree about politics?
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What does that even mean? :GA:
Boring
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What does that even mean? :GA:
Boring
Don't be silly. I'm fantastic. :zoinks:
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I think we're going to [continue to] have a wave of copycat killings with vehicles, similar to the way columbine "inspired" a whole bunch of asshats to go on similar killing sprees (and the same way they happen in clusters, as well). I hope I'm wrong, but I know there's a media contagion effect with the shootings, so I assume there's a good chance with this shit, too.
Oh yes. Plenty of opportunities for nutters.
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
That Hitler guy cared deeply about his country. :zoinks:
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That people here disagree about politics?
Surely not. :M
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
That Hitler guy cared deeply about his country. :zoinks:
Yes, in your world every nationalist is Hitler.
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
That Hitler guy cared deeply about his country. :zoinks:
Yes, in your world every nationalist is Hitler.
Oh, I'm sorry for offending you. Your guys were fascists, not Nazis. Big difference.
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Mosley was a fascist, Powell was a conservative/nationalist.
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What walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnZnnkJxoC8
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
That Hitler guy cared deeply about his country. :zoinks:
That's why he never used chemical weapons on his own people. :zoinks:
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Your post, while wordy, is little more than fear-mongering and twisted reality, and you continue to play into the hands of IS and the like.
You, as always, see what you want to see, not what is there.
It's you who are playing into the hands of ISIS and the globalist war maniacs by cheerleading for unlimited immigration.
And no you fucking idiot, I don't get influenced by Trump and Co. I learnt a lot about the damages of immigration via people like Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley.
And you think that's better?
Yes, Powell was a genius and an honest politician. He cared about this country. As did Mosley who was locked away for being against us going to war. His predictions came true about us destroying our Empire.
That Hitler guy cared deeply about his country. :zoinks:
That's why he never used chemical weapons on his own people. :zoinks:
That would be heinous. Think about the beautiful babies.
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