So what is it that people are discovering, when they have the spiritual revelation?
My whole life is about spiritual revelations, and like any lifestyle choice it comes with its consequences. All mine have been realisations of truths that should have been plain and obvious but were hidden because of my thinking in some way. The phrase 'couldn't see the wood for the trees' is a good way to describe it.
Of course we are "one" with the universe, considering that we don't have any alternatives, but it's not a spiritual revelation, it's a physical fact.
Odeons comment is a good example.
So, taking a science class would be an orgy of spiritual revelations for you? Where do you draw the line between a spiritual revelation and a mundane realisation?
Yep, taking a science class would be. Although I tend to think about things on top of what they are telling me, seeing as I'm naturally more interested in the social, political, semantic and spiritual (or holistic, if you like) mechanics behind what is going on in front of my face (the things taught in science class, while I differentiate between that and actual science, would tend to shed a pretty good light on physical truths). Like everyone I miss things out of my sphere of consciousness because of what interests me (whichever chicken or egg made me who I am, ie whether it's a deterministic existence or not). I don't really draw the line between a mundane realisation and a spiritual one, it's all spiritual.
I've been called Golem before and wasn't happy about it at the time but it made sense to me the more time went on because I have two minds at least.
Here is an equally true to me but seemingly contradictory comment:
No, taking a science class wouldn't be about spiritual revelations because they are only something that is really personal and can't be taught to you by others. They can say things and you can interpret them but that's all it ever is, even though it may seem like more because they talk in your language and make sense to you. It's the sense inside that would be the spiritual revelation. Mundane realisations to me would be things about stuff that were less important to me than the core of my being and of the core of existence. But then maybe not; I've learned that people are not as interested as me and it probably would bore them.
Ah, it's not that contradictory really is it? and has little to do with my golemness i think. That was all shit, but an enjoyable intellectual wank for me so I might as well leave the evidence for posterity. I know I couldn't do better anyway. Apologies