European indigenous people's movement

[Peter]

I have earlier toyed with the idea of giving native Norwegians the legal status as indigenous people in Norway. A large proportion of my ancestors have lived here since the end of the last Ice Age, for as long as this country has been habitable for humans. The original settlers, who came from Central Europe (Germany and the Czech Republic), have been supplemented by other Europeans. Genetic traces from peoples of Near Eastern origins who spread agriculture to Europe are detectable, but until recently most Europeans were overwhelmingly the descendants of men and women who had lived in the region for tens of thousands of years.

Genetically speaking, native Europeans have thus lived longer on the same continent than have Native Americans. Many Southeast Asians are descendants of southern Chinese settlers who displaced or eradicated the original, dark-skinned inhabitants of the region in early historical times, just as many of the nations of sub-Saharan Africa are Bantu invaders who displaced or eradicated the indigenous Khoi-San peoples throughout much of Africa. Modern-day Japanese have lived in Japan for a shorter period of time than Europeans have lived in Europe. Yet a Scottish councillor, Sandy Aitchison, was chastised for using the term "indigenous" about native Brits. Why is it considered ridiculous or evil if Europeans assert our rights? Is it because we are white? Everybody's supposed to keep their culture, except people of European origins? Is that it? Why is colonialism bad, except when my country, which has no colonial history, gets colonized by Third World peoples?

Any thoughts?

[Lucifer]

should we help this person out of his/her own bottom?

[Parts]

People are too preoccupied with this shit on both sides and all it does is turn into the arguing that was around here before.  Everybody wining they are right and no giving an inch as it falls in the shady realm of political correctness where the idea is not to offend anyone  and or  that Western culture in inferior or deserves to be beat up for any past wrongs

[Teejay]

Indigenous people is a term which just means those people who were before another group of people conquered them.

[Johnny]

Here in vermont there is some creature called a native vermonter, seems they believe they are special because their mommy dropped while she was in the state and if somebody wasn't yanked out of their mothers crotch within state lines they are some sort of second class citizen. It's rather entertaining to say the least.

[IlluSionS667]

When a black person founds a movement to celebrate his blackness and advance the interests for black people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person. When a Jewish person founds a movement to celebrate his Jewishness and advance the interests for Jewish people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person. When an Asian person founds a movement to celebrate his being Asian and advance the interests for Asian people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person.

Yet, when a white person founds a movement to celebrate his ethnicity and advance the interests for his ethnicity only, he is defamed and called anything from racist or hatemonger to "nazi".

There's something seriously wrong with this picture here.....

[odeon]

Yes, there is. Basically you got it wrong.

[Dexter Morgan]

When a black person founds a movement to celebrate his blackness and advance the interests for black people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person. When a Jewish person founds a movement to celebrate his Jewishness and advance the interests for Jewish people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person. When an Asian person founds a movement to celebrate his being Asian and advance the interests for Asian people only, he is celebrated and considered a noble person.

Yet, when a white person founds a movement to celebrate his ethnicity and advance the interests for his ethnicity only, he is defamed and called anything from racist or hatemonger to "nazi".

There's something seriously wrong with this picture here.....

Yes.  Irishmen, Italians, and Germans are always considered racist when they celebrate their heritage with festivals or parades.

[IlluSionS667]

Yes, there is. Basically you got it wrong.

Feel free to actually provide any arguments to back up that statement. I find it peculiar how self-righteous liberals tend to be, often without even the ability to back up their views.

Yes.  Irishmen, Italians, and Germans are always considered racist when they celebrate their heritage with festivals or parades.

... and that's just when celebrating their heritage as Irishmen, Italians or Germans. Imagine the outrage if Americans of Irish, Italian or German descent start celebrating their heritage not as Irishmen, Italians or Germans but as Euro-Americans, like African-Americans celebrate their African-American heritage.

[Phlexor]

Yes, there is. Basically you got it wrong.

Feel free to actually provide any arguments to back up that statement. I find it peculiar how self-righteous liberals tend to be, often without even the ability to back up their views.

Yes.  Irishmen, Italians, and Germans are always considered racist when they celebrate their heritage with festivals or parades.

... and that's just when celebrating their heritage as Irishmen, Italians or Germans. Imagine the outrage if Americans of Irish, Italian or German descent start celebrating their heritage not as Irishmen, Italians or Germans but as Euro-Americans, like African-Americans celebrate their African-American heritage.

Does that mean you get to celebrate that you are from fuckwad heritage?

[IlluSionS667]

... and that's just when celebrating their heritage as Irishmen, Italians or Germans. Imagine the outrage if Americans of Irish, Italian or German descent start celebrating their heritage not as Irishmen, Italians or Germans but as Euro-Americans, like African-Americans celebrate their African-American heritage.

Does that mean you get to celebrate that you are from fuckwad heritage?

 

For your information, I'm a full-blooded and self-conscious Fleming. We may be a powerless people in a tiny country but we do have some history to be proud of.

[Phlexor]

... and that's just when celebrating their heritage as Irishmen, Italians or Germans. Imagine the outrage if Americans of Irish, Italian or German descent start celebrating their heritage not as Irishmen, Italians or Germans but as Euro-Americans, like African-Americans celebrate their African-American heritage.

Does that mean you get to celebrate that you are from fuckwad heritage?

 

For your information, I'm a full-blooded and self-conscious Fleming. We may be a powerless people in a tiny country but we do have some history to be proud of.

Why did you feel the need to tell me? I'm sure it's quiet obvious that I dont care.

[IlluSionS667]

For your information, I'm a full-blooded and self-conscious Fleming. We may be a powerless people in a tiny country but we do have some history to be proud of.

Why did you feel the need to tell me? I'm sure it's quiet obvious that I dont care.

Why reply to a topic you don't care about?

[Phlexor]

For your information, I'm a full-blooded and self-conscious Fleming. We may be a powerless people in a tiny country but we do have some history to be proud of.

Why did you feel the need to tell me? I'm sure it's quiet obvious that I dont care.

Why reply to a topic you don't care about?

Why not

[Dexter Morgan]

Yes, there is. Basically you got it wrong.

Feel free to actually provide any arguments to back up that statement. I find it peculiar how self-righteous liberals tend to be, often without even the ability to back up their views.

Yes.  Irishmen, Italians, and Germans are always considered racist when they celebrate their heritage with festivals or parades.

... and that's just when celebrating their heritage as Irishmen, Italians or Germans. Imagine the outrage if Americans of Irish, Italian or German descent start celebrating their heritage not as Irishmen, Italians or Germans but as Euro-Americans, like African-Americans celebrate their African-American heritage.

Why would they need to celebrate as Euro-Americans?  Are you outraged there isn't a message board out there specifically for NTs (Rightplanet)?