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Re: Our military, at play
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2008, 08:20:30 PM »
It's not that simple. There IS some value to diversity,
in terms of the overall survival of life.

Of course, I should be arguing for wiping out
all the other species.  :laugh:

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Re: Our military, at play
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2008, 08:25:55 PM »
Hey, I never said that diversity had no value. It does, because of precisely what you said - too little diversity leads to stagnation and extinction.

I was just pointing out that all emotional value-judgments are equally wrong (or equally right) since some people who posted seemed to be under the delusion that there is scientific basis behind whether it's better to kill something cute or not, or something like oneself or not.

They're two separate issues, requiring two separate means of analysis, and attempting to cross them only leads to misunderstanding.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Our military, at play
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2008, 08:41:16 PM »
Hey, I never said that diversity had no value. It does, because of precisely what you said - too little diversity leads to stagnation and extinction.

Ah, I thought you were responding to me.

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I was just pointing out that all emotional value-judgments are equally wrong (or equally right) since some people who posted seemed to be under the delusion that there is scientific basis behind whether it's better to kill something cute or not, or something like oneself or not.

But, there is. We have an investment in the survival of our
own species, as well as in that of cute things. One which IS
scientifically observable.

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Re: Our military, at play
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2008, 08:45:06 PM »
Yes, but people make it out to be a far more important factor than it actually is.
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Re: Our military, at play
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2008, 08:55:55 PM »
Cuteness? I dunno. I'd be just as upset
to find out that he stole a couple 100k
I think. But, that would be more understandable.
The issue here is being faced with a human,
supposedly like ourselves, gratuitously killing
something that many find attractive. And
recoiling, because that is NOT what we see
ourselves as likely to do.