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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 09:13:16 AM »
i dont even post there anymore. ive already said everything i was gonna say and generally got bored with the site

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2008, 08:24:27 AM »
Wrongplanet is shit
I got banned again from there yesterday as well
I didn't even do anything wrong

Same here. Banned without a warning and for no apparent reason.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2008, 12:38:14 PM »
Wrongplanet is shit
I got banned again from there yesterday as well
I didn't even do anything wrong

Same here. Banned without a warning and for no apparent reason.

I thought you would be after reading your post :green:
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2008, 01:21:45 PM »
Wrongplanet is shit
I got banned again from there yesterday as well
I didn't even do anything wrong

Same here. Banned without a warning and for no apparent reason.

I thought you would be after reading your post :green:

Could you quote that post here, or has it already been deleted from WP?

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2008, 01:43:09 PM »
I didn't get banned from WP but only because I didn't cheese off Alex bad enough.  I quit after seeing folk like Dunc quit in disgust and reading the posts that laid out in detail just how much of a fiefdom WP was (and is).

If I wanted to get instantly banned I'd give this username: Phartiphukborlz.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2008, 05:02:35 AM »
Could you quote that post here, or has it already been deleted from WP?

 :laugh:

It's still there :

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Hi. I just joined this forum. I'm 26 years old, live in Europe and I'm a high-functioning Aspie.

As a high-functioning Aspie, I constructed my own worldview from scratch by mere logic alone, because I couldn't accept either the liberal or Christian viewpoints of the country I lived in and I couldn't find another worldview that suited me at the time. In the years to come, I graduately developed a complex worldview that's based on traditionalist and Conservative Revolutionary principles. As such, I have very non-conventional and politically incorrect ideas, which makes it impossible for me to freely express myself on most Internet forums without risking to get banned.

What I found shocking to learn on two other Aspie forums quite recently, is that people within Autism-spectrum aren't necessarilly more openminded and tolerant than NTs with regards to politically incorrect ideas. In fact, the overall behavior of most of the forum members was just as intolerant as that of the average NT whenever you address opinions that are politically incorrect. I've been called anything from racist, antisemite, idiot, narrowminded, neonazi, etc. just for expressing views that fall within the traditionalist and Conservative Revolutionary areas. Their prejudice about such viewpoints seems to close their minds entirely in a way pretty much identical to the way NTs shun things alien to them.

As such, I decided to post this thread with the following question : what is the attitude of the administration with regards to politically incorrect ideas and how many of its members would you regard as politically incorrect? I ask this, because I do not want to go through all that sh*t again of people calling me names all the time and I do not want to stop talking politically or socially relevant issues either. Whether I stay or not on this forum, will probably depend on the outcome of this thread.

I wish to make clear that I treat people with respect if they treat me with respect, regardless of their ethnicity, thier religion, their ideology, their sexual preference, etc. I may not agree with how and where you live or how you think, but I see that as no reason to treat you with disrespect. Respect is one of my primary values.

Having said all that, I like to give a list of some ideas that I adhere to, just so you get the idea :

* ) Every ethnic group has its strengths and weaknesses on mental, spiritual and physical levels. Just like two breeds of dogs may differ in speed, intelligence and character, so can two breeds of humans differ in speed, intelligence and character.
* ) My ideal politically is the world as a patchwork of nations based on both cultural and ethnic grounds that peacefully coexist and cooperate on a supranational scale only to maintain the economical stability and to guarantee the independence of every nation.
* ) I reject the concept of "representative democract" altogether and prefer a technocratic/meritocratic system instead.
* ) Homosexuality should be tolerated but not promoted. It remains a sexual deviance and one should not be given the impression that homosexuality is "normal".
* ) I regard animals as creatures worthy of the same respect as humans. I do not believe that humans have the right to treat animals like objects and act as they see fit. Various species are obviously self-aware and capable of simple forms of rational thought.
* ) Modern medicine goes way too far by eliminating natural selection altogether. By totally limiting natural selection, too many people will survive who wouldn't survive in a more primitive society. This can only lead to increased degeneration with the destruction of humanity as a species in the end.
* ) All moral values must come from nature and nature only. Animals living in groups and primitive human societies should be studied closely and analysed to determine the proper moral values humanity has lost. Any religion that is not based on the principles of nature (eg. Christianity) is bunk. Valuable religions (that are based on the principles of nature) are religions such as Asatru, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, ...
* ) We live in an age of corruption and decay, similar to the final days of the Roman empire. Those values loved so dearly by liberals are actually symptoms of corruption and will only help mankind degenerate faster.
* ) I reject all forms of exploitation of one man by another. As such, I'm strongly anti-capitalist and favor a solidarist/corporatist model instead. This also means that I'm oposed to any form of colonisation.
* ) I'm strongly oposed to both zionism and Judaism for they are dangerous supremacist belief systems. In fact, I dare to state that he antisemitism of national-socialist Germany was caused purely by the supremacist attitude of many German Jews, who had Germany in a stranglehold.
* ) I reject the official version of history with regards to WW2 and related events. I'm not convinced that national-socialist Germany was "evil" and the US was benign. I'm not convinced that Hitler wanted to kill all those Jews. Surely there were concentration camps and surely many people never came out of them alive, but the figures are distorted and so is the context. The camps in question were really work camps and people died as a consequence of starvation and disease due to allied bombings destroying German infrastructure. This is confirmed by Red Cross reports, that actually condemned the British for causing this humanitarian disaster.

Would you say this is accepted on Wrong Planet?

Again, I'd like to stress that I treat people with respect if they treat me with respect, regardless of their ethnicity, thier religion, their ideology, their sexual preference, etc. I may not agree with how and where you live or how you think, but I see that as no reason to treat you with disrespect as respect is one of my primary values.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2008, 06:01:06 AM »
Yeah, of course you can have those ideas. This is I2. You have the metal to defend yourself and not get too hurt by the gentle banter here, that is all we really ask.
At the same time this is not a support forum nor can you expect us to support views that are (for want of a better word) crazy.
Tolerance goes both ways. You do not tolerate people not tolerating your lack of tolerance. The situation is intolerable.  :asthing:

Seriously though You think people ought to "stick to their own kind" crap doesn't phase me. I am a bitsa. I think many people are and I see no problem in that. I would not care if that did not fit with your ideals or worldviews. You mention gays are a sexual deviance, well people on the spectrum make up 1% of society so we are not normal and deviants in respect to your definitions. Animals? I am not a animal person and must say I will never look at the non-humans of the world in a sexual way nor will I eye off a person and think in terms of steak or sausages. So treating them with the same respect? Nah. Religion? No proof any way, for the existence of any God, and theologists will be discussing the merits of religion till the cows come home. Same with politics. As for the Jewish deathcamps, WTF? That idea was weird but hey you have put a lot of time and effort in building up this delusion, don't let me rain on your parade ****tinkle, tinkle*** Remind us to re-read this post next time you have a serious illness and we will encourage you to disregard medical intervention.

Oh welcome aboard Illusion. We need more crazy here. Randy can only go so far.  :-*
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2008, 08:35:58 AM »
You have the metal to defend yourself and not get too hurt by the gentle banter here, that is all we really ask.

... and all I ask.

At the same time this is not a support forum nor can you expect us to support views that are (for want of a better word) crazy.
Tolerance goes both ways. You do not tolerate people not tolerating your lack of tolerance. The situation is intolerable.  :asthing:

 :green:

All I ask for, is the freedom to express what I believe to be factual or righteous.

You mention gays are a sexual deviance, well people on the spectrum make up 1% of society so we are not normal and deviants in respect to your definitions.

I'm lefthanded, high-functioning (IQ = 137), Aspie and extremely politically incorrect. It doesn't get less conventional than that, so I have no problem if people call me deviant. In fact, I regard being deviant as something to be proud of.

Animals? I am not a animal person and must say I will never look at the non-humans of the world in a sexual way nor will I eye off a person and think in terms of steak or sausages. So treating them with the same respect? Nah.

Animals are also individuals with feelings and some cognitive abilities. How can you morally justify treating them as objects?

Religion? No proof any way, for the existence of any God, and theologists will be discussing the merits of religion till the cows come home.

Metaphysical philosophy can be very interesting. Belief in an imaginary creature up in the sky is just plain dangerous.

As for the Jewish deathcamps, WTF? That idea was weird but hey you have put a lot of time and effort in building up this delusion, don't let me rain on your parade ****tinkle, tinkle***

I've visited Auschwitz and Majdanek myself. I've spent many dozens of hours researching the topic. Based on all the info I've gained so far, I couldn't find the slightest indication that any German camp was used to murder Jews. Everything points to these camps having been work camps, the total Jewish death toll for WW2 being just a few hundreds of thousands and the large death tolls in some camps at the end of the war being the result of typhus and starvation due to resource issues caused by the destuction of Germany by the allies.

If you reject this conclusion, feel free to discuss the facts. I've discussed this topic with a qualified Holocaust historian in the past, so I doubt you can bring forward any relevant information I'm thusfar unfamiliar with. You can always try, though.

Oh welcome aboard Illusion. We need more crazy here.

Crazy I'm not. I'm just un-conventional due to my having built up my own frame of thought rather than adopting an existing one. From my point of view, it's the liberal and neo-conservative masses that went nuts when they started declaring race as irrelevant, morallity as individual and love for your country as hateful.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2008, 08:52:29 AM »
I left WP after getting disgruntled at the oversensitive mod faggotry going on there. I guess you were a victim of their faggotry, IlluSionS667. To be honest, nothing you said should be grounds for being banned at all, and if they didn't like it, well, a simple kind warning would have been appropriate at least.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2008, 09:04:53 AM by Nexus »
Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2008, 09:17:37 AM »
I left WP after getting disgruntled at the oversensitive mod faggotry going on there. I guess you were a victim of their faggotry, IlluSionS667. To be honest, nothing you said should be grounds for being banned at all, and if they didn't like it, well, a simple kind warning would have been appropriate at least.

What you call oversentisity mod faggotry I would call super-NT behavior. IMO, a real Aspie is a Mr Spock (Star Trek), a Gregory House (House MD) or a Dharma Finklestein Montgomery (Dharma & Greg)..... and they sure as hell don't act like that  :green:
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2008, 09:29:39 AM »
You have the metal to defend yourself and not get too hurt by the gentle banter here, that is all we really ask.

... and all I ask.

At the same time this is not a support forum nor can you expect us to support views that are (for want of a better word) crazy.
Tolerance goes both ways. You do not tolerate people not tolerating your lack of tolerance. The situation is intolerable.  :asthing:

 :green:

All I ask for, is the freedom to express what I believe to be factual or righteous.

You mention gays are a sexual deviance, well people on the spectrum make up 1% of society so we are not normal and deviants in respect to your definitions.

I'm lefthanded, high-functioning (IQ = 137), Aspie and extremely politically incorrect. It doesn't get less conventional than that, so I have no problem if people call me deviant. In fact, I regard being deviant as something to be proud of.

Animals? I am not a animal person and must say I will never look at the non-humans of the world in a sexual way nor will I eye off a person and think in terms of steak or sausages. So treating them with the same respect? Nah.

Animals are also individuals with feelings and some cognitive abilities. How can you morally justify treating them as objects?

Religion? No proof any way, for the existence of any God, and theologists will be discussing the merits of religion till the cows come home.

Metaphysical philosophy can be very interesting. Belief in an imaginary creature up in the sky is just plain dangerous.

As for the Jewish deathcamps, WTF? That idea was weird but hey you have put a lot of time and effort in building up this delusion, don't let me rain on your parade ****tinkle, tinkle***

I've visited Auschwitz and Majdanek myself. I've spent many dozens of hours researching the topic. Based on all the info I've gained so far, I couldn't find the slightest indication that any German camp was used to murder Jews. Everything points to these camps having been work camps, the total Jewish death toll for WW2 being just a few hundreds of thousands and the large death tolls in some camps at the end of the war being the result of typhus and starvation due to resource issues caused by the destuction of Germany by the allies.

If you reject this conclusion, feel free to discuss the facts. I've discussed this topic with a qualified Holocaust historian in the past, so I doubt you can bring forward any relevant information I'm thusfar unfamiliar with. You can always try, though.

Oh welcome aboard Illusion. We need more crazy here.

Crazy I'm not. I'm just un-conventional due to my having built up my own frame of thought rather than adopting an existing one. From my point of view, it's the liberal and neo-conservative masses that went nuts when they started declaring race as irrelevant, morallity as individual and love for your country as hateful.

I think your ideas are strange but if you look around the site ( I encourage this) you will see we are all rejects and more than a little strange ourselves.
I was there at AFF and did try see you heading towards a ban from your first post on that thread you made.
I was interested debating you but know it was just not going t go down well at all there.

I like eating the individuals called cow. I see them I see Beef burger. I used to greet them all as "Hamburger" when I used to work at an abbatoir. Wouldn't call myself an animal lover necessarily.
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2008, 10:07:56 AM »
Could you quote that post here, or has it already been deleted from WP?

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It's still there :

*snip*

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2008, 02:24:36 PM »
I left WP after getting disgruntled at the oversensitive mod faggotry going on there. I guess you were a victim of their faggotry, IlluSionS667. To be honest, nothing you said should be grounds for being banned at all, and if they didn't like it, well, a simple kind warning would have been appropriate at least.

Actually a lot of it is illegal in some countries. Notably Germany.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2008, 02:25:35 PM »
I left WP after getting disgruntled at the oversensitive mod faggotry going on there. I guess you were a victim of their faggotry, IlluSionS667. To be honest, nothing you said should be grounds for being banned at all, and if they didn't like it, well, a simple kind warning would have been appropriate at least.

What you call oversentisity mod faggotry I would call super-NT behavior. IMO, a real Aspie is a Mr Spock (Star Trek), a Gregory House (House MD) or a Dharma Finklestein Montgomery (Dharma & Greg)..... and they sure as hell don't act like that  :green:

You do know that those are fictional characters, right? A *real* Aspie is more like someone here.
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2008, 02:32:10 PM »
Oh, and one more thing, Illusion: Have you discussed your delusions with any of the surviving Jews? I know you consider their religion dangerous, but there is a point to listening to the people that were there. I'm not going to waste my time trying to put you right, though--the world is full of nutcases and there's simply not enough time.

As I said elsewhere, you won't get banned, but you will be called on. Well, you won't be banned because of your views, unless it's illegal in the US to put forward the views re Jews in your quoted WP post; I will look into that since I am the de facto owner of this place and need to remain on good terms with our host.

Also, I suspect your karma will start dropping sharply.
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