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how many of yous is what one would call a substance abuser?

i am! i love abusing substances.
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i never touch any substances! i am clean as a whistle!
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i only drink booze and shit
10 (38.5%)
i only do drugs, no booze
1 (3.8%)
i do drugs and booze cuz they are teh awesome
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2007, 03:10:38 PM »
I got a bottle of ginger in my house, and that has almost the same effect on me.  I have not got a tollerance with that one, and it makes me horny to.

Um... do you stick the bottle up your arse?
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2007, 04:03:26 PM »
I have a couple of glasses of wine or sherry a night.  Except when I decide to abstain for a few weeks a couple of times a year.  Lent is one time more out of sympathy for my wife giving up coffee than any religious reasons.  More than two glasses and I sleep shitty and feel lousy.

When I discovered caffeine back in the 70's at college, I definitely came close to overdoing it with No-Doz or Vivarin tabs.  Fortunately, I would start feeling too funny or out of whack to push that boundary any further.  Now I just have 2-3 cups of tea a day.

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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2007, 05:31:03 PM »
Usually beer and sometimes white wine. Red wine is a sure way to give me migraines so I rarely touch that. Sometimes whisky. Sometimes other stuff (Campari, for example).

Oh, and champagne, on New Year's Eve.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2007, 05:55:22 PM »
Its more common to be overweight with a wheat allergy, because wheat protein promotes the production of a fat storage harmone, insulin.  I didn't loose anyweight either, but there was one month with I lost 20lbs without effort.  I went right back to normal.

i'm allergic to wheat. i'm addicted to it. hate the shit, it's the devil.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2007, 05:58:04 PM »
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better than I do when I finish the day with a coffee or two, which definitely puts me to sleep better. But, I seem to remember my dreams much more and I have more waking dreams with this method.

The only problem I experience doing this, is that I awaken with a START every morning and fly out of bed like a wild man, well before sun up and I am severely over-stimmed, pacing, fidgeting, and sometimes talking to myself on the worst days, until I get some coffee into me, to calm down.

This is better than the reverse would be, for work.

Now, I need to find something, besides alcohol, for this nighttime mental coercion. I tried Melatonin, but that did not work for me.

that sucks man. how are you overstimmed from sleeping? ???

try valerian, maybe it might help.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2007, 06:25:14 PM »
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2007, 06:27:58 PM »
i can stay up after popping couple of melatonin. it just makes me feel the same way i do when i've been up all night, which i am every night. :P
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2007, 06:35:25 PM »
i can stay up after popping couple of melatonin. it just makes me feel the same way i do when i've been up all night, which i am every night. :P

Yeah, me too. But if I take it and go to bed, I can fall asleep when I'm not too stressed. All in all, there's a difference.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2007, 06:39:51 PM »
Melatonin makes me feel wistful, in a weird way. Good for meditation. Sometimes I take it just for that. Helps me sleep often, but like someone said, not when I'm stressed out.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2007, 06:57:53 PM »
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.

Thats what I found out.  When your stressed or anxious, sleep is a difficult thing to find!

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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2007, 11:00:32 PM »
i take it to achieve the state i get in when i stay up. i love that feeling. the downside is i can't sustain it for long because i get an urge to sleep eventually. :laugh: and i have no energy to do anything. but i take it to calm down if i don't have booze.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2007, 04:14:22 AM »
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better...

Unlikely. Alcohol interferes with sleep, which is
probably why you get more memorable dreams.

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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2007, 08:25:53 AM »
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better than I do when I finish the day with a coffee or two, which definitely puts me to sleep better. But, I seem to remember my dreams much more and I have more waking dreams with this method.

The only problem I experience doing this, is that I awaken with a START every morning and fly out of bed like a wild man, well before sun up and I am severely over-stimmed, pacing, fidgeting, and sometimes talking to myself on the worst days, until I get some coffee into me, to calm down.

This is better than the reverse would be, for work.

Now, I need to find something, besides alcohol, for this nighttime mental coercion. I tried Melatonin, but that did not work for me.

that sucks man. how are you overstimmed from sleeping? ???

try valerian, maybe it might help.

Only my body is at rest during sleep. My mind enjoys a sense of "freed-up resources" and works at near-light speed while I sleep. I generally have very vivid, graphic, lucid dreams and they are often disturbing re-accounts of past troubles. I would like to control them better. I don't really want to lose my dreams, again, though.

Are you talking about a plant (Valeriana officinalis or calme los brujos)? If so, it is a well known Indian remedy for lack of sleep. The roots are used to induce a dream state in combination with mescalitos when smoked together. I couldn't get away with using mescalitos, because of random tox-screenings they do at work.

I have also seen Valeriana included in prepared, over the counter, herbal teas. I will give the tea a try once again, some day, but right now I am happy with things the way they are. I don't mind the energy I get from sleep as much as I used to when I was younger.

It has been many years since I used Valeriana, (calme los brujos). I'm a little scared to open certain doors again, though.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2007, 08:43:18 AM »
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.

Thats what I found out.  When your stressed or anxious, sleep is a difficult thing to find!

Too true.
I find that the instances when I do not feel stressed out are more due to illusions than to my perception of reality, however.

I doubt that I'm alone, here. I have tried to go "crutch-free"  many times, but it usually ends up helter-skelter. 
Maybe this is partly why so many of us self-medicate.
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Re: do you self-medicate?
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2007, 12:35:38 PM »
Help me, melatonin, I didn't get up and do night  terror bullshit.  I went by the knife draw and said I was going to kill my brother. I stoped having those long time ago, but they did make it into adulthood.  Turkey tryptophan didn't affect me.

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