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Offline Calandale

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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2007, 07:18:19 PM »
To do so after the fact would be REALLY
ugly. But, that's what happens when we
have no rules, and just operate by instinct.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2007, 07:21:42 PM »
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2007, 07:22:44 PM »
let's say I had noticed something like this happening when I counted the votes. I would have notified the World Council, immediately, and we would have gone from there. I'm not saying that we would have ignored a single vote (I don't like the idea at all) but I would have made sure that everybody was aware of what's happening.

If the bans had happened right after the vote (assuming, in this case, that Renaeden or Callaway snapped), either Dunc or me would probably have reacted fairly quickly.

And that's about all we can do unless the coup is so obvious that we can't avoid seeing it, before the count is completed.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2007, 07:23:31 PM »
Quote from: calandale on July 11, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
To do so after the fact would be REALLY
ugly. But, that's what happens when we
have no rules, and just operate by instinct.

For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2007, 07:24:26 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 11, 2007, 07:22:44 PM
let's say I had noticed something like this happening when I counted the votes. I would have notified the World Council, immediately, and we would have gone from there. I'm not saying that we would have ignored a single vote (I don't like the idea at all) but I would have made sure that everybody was aware of what's happening.

If the bans had happened right after the vote (assuming, in this case, that Renaeden or Callaway snapped), either Dunc or me would probably have reacted fairly quickly.

And that's about all we can do unless the coup is so obvious that we can't avoid seeing it, before the count is completed.
what if mrmark had a cunning plan?


we aren't talking about renaeden, callaway, scrap or ozy, here.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2007, 07:27:02 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 11, 2007, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: calandale on July 11, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
To do so after the fact would be REALLY
ugly. But, that's what happens when we
have no rules, and just operate by instinct.

For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about.

Yeah, I know. But what you stated about bringing
it to the WP, means that it stands as a bump in
the simulated democracy. If it were to act in a
manner to overturn votes, effectively it's throwing
a coup. Again, I'm not sure that there's anything
which is too big a deal with allowing a 'stolen'
election, such as would happen if a bunch of
new people came in at once. But there can be
no democracy without clear voting rules.

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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2007, 07:29:43 PM »
ok calandale, i take back the finger.  now you have me at i'm listening.....convince me.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2007, 07:35:00 PM »
What it came down to, is it's just an internet site,
and it doesn't matter. That still holds. And Dunc and
Odeon can roll it up, and give us whatever they want.
So, it's just NOT a democracy, and really ain't worth
fighting for.

I've given up, and agree. It's just not worth the effort.
But if someone wants to play democracy, there would
be rules.
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2007, 08:21:01 PM »
I think I see what you are saying, Calandale, but I agree with Odeon when he said, "For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about."

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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2007, 08:27:31 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 11, 2007, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: calandale on July 11, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
To do so after the fact would be REALLY
ugly. But, that's what happens when we
have no rules, and just operate by instinct.

For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about.

agreed. +1
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #100 on: July 11, 2007, 08:29:29 PM »
Quote from: calandale on July 11, 2007, 06:52:06 PM
Why did you want to be green, anyhow?

green?
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #101 on: July 11, 2007, 08:31:34 PM »
Quote from: Callaway on July 11, 2007, 08:21:01 PM
I think I see what you are saying, Calandale, but I agree with Odeon when he said, "For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about."



Yeah, but maybe this site should stop the pretenses towards
democracy then. It seems hypocritical, at best. Because that
is NOT what the site is about. And grafting that on, beneath
the other concept does nothing good.

Quote from: I Love Seány on July 11, 2007, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: calandale on July 11, 2007, 06:52:06 PM
Why did you want to be green, anyhow?

green?

Indeed.

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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2007, 08:42:02 PM »
Ok, for the sake of fairness and honor, when I become admin.  I will impose my own code of ethics and morality and ban everybody from the forum and rule in splendid isolation. >:D  Just like my hero, Mrs.Mark! :evillaugh:  Because I am so moral and moderate that I hold myself up as a beacon of light in a dark world. ::)  Just thought you'd like to know what my plans are.  But, then again, I am soooooooooo intelligent that you plebians are completely dumbfounded at my superior intellect. :drool: :headslap: :birdpoop:

BTW,  I'm being sarcastic! :laugh:  :paperbag: :cuckoo: :shamone: :fos:
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #103 on: July 11, 2007, 08:42:23 PM »
what do you mean by green calandale? what are you talking about?
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Re: World Council Discussion
« Reply #104 on: July 11, 2007, 08:54:17 PM »
Quote from: I Love Seány on July 11, 2007, 08:42:23 PM
what do you mean by green calandale? what are you talking about?


Blue + yellow, and all.

You yawned at discussing the
issues here. If you are really that
bored by them, why in the WC?
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