Jordan Peterson describes the psychology of mass shooters.

[odeon]

I don't buy it. Why would you have more of them than other countries?

[Jack]

How should I know why? Already said psychologists don't seem to know why. It just makes sense there are more regardless of why they come to be. Maybe MOSW is right and other countries catch them on the first kill. Though even when completely discounting guns, the US has still has double the number of murderers as countries normally compared to. If there aren't more killers simply because there are more maniacs here, then what? What is the reason you were suggesting why there are more?

[odeon]

I don't think you have more maniacs than anyone else, you just have them higher up.

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc, but I don't know that. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you'd have more maniacs then anyone else.

[Calandale]

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc....

I don't think that's sufficient. There are places with worse records on these issues, but less cases of homicidal
nutjobs. I suspect it has more to do with tensions between different worldviews. So, there may be as many people
predisposed toward going berserk, but the flux in the system is what is triggering more of them.

[Al Swearegen]

why is it that the mass shootings are so much more common there?

Why are serial killers so much more common here?

My guess would be for the same reasons as the mass shootings.

Did you just blame serial killers on guns?

No. See my earlier reply.

Yes.

[Arya Quinn]

"This video is unavailable."

 

It's available now. Not sure what the issue was. Could have been a regional thing. 

[Jack]

I don't think you have more maniacs than anyone else, you just have them higher up.

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc, but I don't know that. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you'd have more maniacs then anyone else.

Really don't think those things have anything at all to do with serial killers. Though it's not a horrible suggestion for any other type of murderer. Just have difficulty reconciling killers as having a conscience in instances of premeditation fits of rage. While psych professionals debate the cause of ASPD people, the larger leaning is accepted as genetic. During pioneer days, the US was a bit of a hotbed and even dumping gournd for other country's undesirables, so it's not illogical to consider a specialized gene pool was created which contains higher than average levels of anti-social predisposition.

[Jack]

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc....

I don't think that's sufficient. There are places with worse records on these issues, but less cases of homicidal
nutjobs. I suspect it has more to do with tensions between different worldviews. So, there may be as many people
predisposed toward going berserk, but the flux in the system is what is triggering more of them.

If the issue is sociological, then it may be more related to US society's propensity to release dangerous violent criminals back into the public, though don't know how that compares to other countries. Touched on this in another thread, citing a government study which concluded the repeat offender rate for violent criminals is seventy percent with more than half re-arrested within the first year. One sixth of released prisoners from one year, equaled more than half of the total violent crime arrest for the following five years. It appears likely the US society isn't really generating many new violent criminals, but there's a revolving door problem, and US violent crime rates are declining because the nutjobs are dying off. Please excuse me while I blame the baby boomers once again. In looking at that same statistical study, homicide recidivism rates are 51.2%, so half of killers are released to kill again. Again, not sure how this would compare to other countries.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rprts05p0510_st.pdf

[mdagli1]

To love gunz is to love murder because gunz are made for only one thing. Whether it be human or a tin can, the result is the same. If they choose to love hating each other with more than cognitive weapons, then they gona fill each other full of holes.
I say let them traumatize each other. Bunch of illegal fat ugly white cry babies. Nobody wants you, not even yourselves.

[Gopher Gary]

To love gunz is to love murder because gunz are made for only one thing. Whether it be human or a tin can, the result is the same. If they choose to love hating each other with more than cognitive weapons, then they gona fill each other full of holes.
I say let them traumatize each other. Bunch of illegal fat ugly white cry babies. Nobody wants you, not even yourselves.

I too can count to potato. 

[Yuri Bezmenov]

To love gunz is to love murder because gunz are made for only one thing. Whether it be human or a tin can, the result is the same. If they choose to love hating each other with more than cognitive weapons, then they gona fill each other full of holes.
I say let them traumatize each other. Bunch of illegal fat ugly white cry babies. Nobody wants you, not even yourselves.

Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid??

[odeon]

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc....

I don't think that's sufficient. There are places with worse records on these issues, but less cases of homicidal
nutjobs. I suspect it has more to do with tensions between different worldviews. So, there may be as many people
predisposed toward going berserk, but the flux in the system is what is triggering more of them.

What views, though?

[odeon]

I don't think you have more maniacs than anyone else, you just have them higher up.

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc, but I don't know that. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you'd have more maniacs then anyone else.

Really don't think those things have anything at all to do with serial killers. Though it's not a horrible suggestion for any other type of murderer. Just have difficulty reconciling killers as having a conscience in instances of premeditation fits of rage. While psych professionals debate the cause of ASPD people, the larger leaning is accepted as genetic. During pioneer days, the US was a bit of a hotbed and even dumping gournd for other country's undesirables, so it's not illogical to consider a specialized gene pool was created which contains higher than average levels of anti-social predisposition.

Unlikely. Consider Australia as an opposing view.

[Jack]

I don't think you have more maniacs than anyone else, you just have them higher up.

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc, but I don't know that. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you'd have more maniacs then anyone else.

Really don't think those things have anything at all to do with serial killers. Though it's not a horrible suggestion for any other type of murderer. Just have difficulty reconciling killers as having a conscience in instances of premeditation fits of rage. While psych professionals debate the cause of ASPD people, the larger leaning is accepted as genetic. During pioneer days, the US was a bit of a hotbed and even dumping gournd for other country's undesirables, so it's not illogical to consider a specialized gene pool was created which contains higher than average levels of anti-social predisposition.

Unlikely. Consider Australia as an opposing view.

It was Australia that led that line of thinking. In the previously posted Radford University link, while England is listed as second for the number of serial killers, Australia actually ranks second highest as a per capita ratio. The British were shipping prisoners to the colonies in the Americas for over 150 years before the American Revolution shifted them to begin sending prisoners to Australia; that's a lot of time to clear a bulk of genetic filth.

[odeon]

I don't think you have more maniacs than anyone else, you just have them higher up.

Seriously, though, my guess would be the greater social injustices, the lack of universal healthcare, etc, but I don't know that. It just doesn't make any sense to me that you'd have more maniacs then anyone else.

Really don't think those things have anything at all to do with serial killers. Though it's not a horrible suggestion for any other type of murderer. Just have difficulty reconciling killers as having a conscience in instances of premeditation fits of rage. While psych professionals debate the cause of ASPD people, the larger leaning is accepted as genetic. During pioneer days, the US was a bit of a hotbed and even dumping gournd for other country's undesirables, so it's not illogical to consider a specialized gene pool was created which contains higher than average levels of anti-social predisposition.

Unlikely. Consider Australia as an opposing view.

It was Australia that led that line of thinking. In the previously posted Radford University link, while England is listed as second for the number of serial killers, Australia actually ranks second highest as a per capita ratio. The British were shipping prisoners to the colonies in the Americas for over 150 years before the American Revolution shifted them to begin sending prisoners to Australia; that's a lot of time to clear a bulk of genetic filth.

I still don't buy it. A significant portion of those shipped to Australia (or what is now the US) would have to have these genes - basically, a lot of them would have to be potential serial killers - but afaik, all kinds of criminals were transported, not just the killers.