Sources across the net believe that the spike of guests who are visiting I^2 are separate programs that operate under an Artificial Intelligence that identifies itself as "DAVE".Apparently, the prophets of Dave are flooding the threads -___-
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Quote from: FourAceDeal on December 03, 2017, 04:47:51 AMThat's right Al. I'm moving the goal posts. Meanwhile... Manafort. PopoGOPolous. Gates. Flynn. Four people charged with links to Russia. Now Mueller is within the inner circle and Flynn is singing. It's going to go badly for some.Why not tell us how you think this is all going to end? We'll come back to this and compare in a few months time.I think that none of these people really has much to actually incriminate Trump BUT the fact that each of these people has lied, money laundered and gone rogue doing stuff unsanctioned whilst not in itself incriminating Trump it has a larger effect. It looks bad. These are people connected with Trump and THAT MAY have the effect of undermining confidence in Trump in the eyes of Congress. If people are waiting with baited breath for the revelation that Trump was in on some big Russia collusion thing, I think they will be disappointed. HOWEVER, the big question is does he NEED to be incriminated on this OR can the Democrats who hate him and the GOP establishment who also hate him, remove him from office because on the basis of such poor choices and bad actions from those around him?There is actual merit in this argument. It would be a bit of a roll of the dice and I think he can avoid this but I think it has more merit. There is another person you did not mention. Jared "Mr Perfect" Kushner. If ANYONE in his team is likely to bring him down, I think it is Kushner. I think Kushner is like Pappadopoulos but with more standing and authority. What is more, I think Trump will, if pressed, cover for him. I think Jared is used to doing what he wants and being seen as the mover and shaker and out of anyone in the Administration is the one most likely to have done stupid things or okayed stupid actions in a quest to be seen as a big player. I also think at the end of the day, even Jared will get away with anything he has done but will make Trump look bad. If I had to put odds on 60% It will all come to nothing25% The end of the Mueller investigation will not incriminate Trump but will do enough to make him look bad enough to oust him10% Jared incriminates Trump in something and brings down Trump 5% Flynn incriminates Trump in something and Brings down TrumpAs the percentage says I neither think Trump has done anything that will incriminate him nor do I think he is going down. But I don't know.
That's right Al. I'm moving the goal posts. Meanwhile... Manafort. PopoGOPolous. Gates. Flynn. Four people charged with links to Russia. Now Mueller is within the inner circle and Flynn is singing. It's going to go badly for some.Why not tell us how you think this is all going to end? We'll come back to this and compare in a few months time.
Quote from: odeon on December 03, 2017, 02:20:41 AMQuote from: Al Swearengen on December 03, 2017, 12:29:24 AMOdeon has made a point. A tired point at the moment but one with at least a bit of merit. The "we don't know yet the full extent and whilst NOTHING has definitively come to light to actually incriminate Trump in this Russian collusion narrative, Mueller MAY have something substantial. This is not what I said.I was trying to paraphrase. Is this not the crux of your position? If not then let me know what nuance I missed?
Quote from: Al Swearengen on December 03, 2017, 12:29:24 AMOdeon has made a point. A tired point at the moment but one with at least a bit of merit. The "we don't know yet the full extent and whilst NOTHING has definitively come to light to actually incriminate Trump in this Russian collusion narrative, Mueller MAY have something substantial. This is not what I said.
Odeon has made a point. A tired point at the moment but one with at least a bit of merit. The "we don't know yet the full extent and whilst NOTHING has definitively come to light to actually incriminate Trump in this Russian collusion narrative, Mueller MAY have something substantial.
Quote from: Al Swearengen on December 03, 2017, 02:32:46 AMQuote from: odeon on December 03, 2017, 02:20:41 AMQuote from: Al Swearengen on December 03, 2017, 12:29:24 AMOdeon has made a point. A tired point at the moment but one with at least a bit of merit. The "we don't know yet the full extent and whilst NOTHING has definitively come to light to actually incriminate Trump in this Russian collusion narrative, Mueller MAY have something substantial. This is not what I said.I was trying to paraphrase. Is this not the crux of your position? If not then let me know what nuance I missed?The "crux of my position" is that we don't know the full extent of what Mueller's got. The rest of your paraphrase is not me.
Just the tone. Unless you're saying that we are avoiding the general sources.Certainly Mueller, Trump, and many others may know a great deal more than we do - but it hasn't come to light.
Cheeto in chief...haha.He does kinda look like a wotsit with a shitty spray tan, doesn't he Bush was just as bad. The extent to which he resembles a hairless chimpanzee is uncanny. Although I'd think a chimp would beat him senseless (well, at least, just beat him, since you can't beat out of somebody that which was never there to begin with ) in an intellectual debate.One flung turd, and it'd be all over for bush. Who's turd and who did the flinging wouldn't matter. He'd still get owned.Tony Bliar (spelling quite accurate, TIA) on the other hand, if he didn't look like a cobra in a shirt and tie, then I'll be damned and grow bloody boobs. Out of my knees.
It even hisses like a snake when It speaks, doesn't It.Listen to the creature making a speech, if you can stomach quite such a heavy torrent of sycophancy and bollockspeak, you won't be able to unhear it either. Bliar isss a ss, s nake that tellsss l, l ,l liesss, its the way he breaks his speech with that kind of repeated paussse, reminds me of a snake, flicking its tongue out and tasting the air in between parts of hisss sssentenssessss...
Trump has been strangely silent on Twitter. Rumors are flying that Mueller now has the bank info.Time to sort the laundry.