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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #120 on: February 02, 2015, 12:33:18 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

It's easy to jump on the anti-religion bandwagon.  All we hear is the negative stuff, and if something bad happens, it'll be automatically put down to religion, where as, if it's a positive thing, it's ignored. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

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Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #121 on: February 02, 2015, 12:35:47 PM »
"Old-school graphics". Pfffft. :M

Graphics do not make a good game. Gameplay (and in some cases storytelling) makes a good game  :M

Judging a game purely by it's graphics is like judging a person's intelligence purely based upon their ability to recite song lyrics. It's a fucking stupid method.

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #122 on: February 03, 2015, 11:52:32 PM »
"Old-school graphics". Pfffft. :M

Graphics do not make a good game. Gameplay (and in some cases storytelling) makes a good game  :M

Judging a game purely by it's graphics is like judging a person's intelligence purely based upon their ability to recite song lyrics. It's a fucking stupid method.

Which is why I posted that awesome screenshot. :M
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #123 on: February 04, 2015, 08:14:22 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

It's easy to jump on the anti-religion bandwagon.  All we hear is the negative stuff, and if something bad happens, it'll be automatically put down to religion, where as, if it's a positive thing, it's ignored.

I'll admit that religion is not the root of all hatred or injustice but when has religion actually been a positive thing for the human race?

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #124 on: February 04, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Not religion per se, but "the religious mindset"

people rarely *become* religious. It's a cycle.
Religious parents have babies - religious parents are not science-learned (for the most part. You cannot combine an equal volume of science and religion in a single brain. At some point, they must cancel each others out)
Religious parents will therefore apply their own sense of logic and reason to the critical stages of their childrens mental development, in early age, with trivial basic questions, the very first quests for scientific knowledge:
Where do babies come from? Storks, not stop bothering.
Why is the sky blue? Jesus made it so, mommy has a headache.
Why is murder wrong? We kill ants all the time.

Critical stage in life. Humans are the bodies and natures of pre-society "cave people"*
"Cave human" existence (Homo sapiens sapiens) 195 000 years approx.
"Civilized human" existence (Homo sapiens sapiens) 5 000 years approx.
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This is the cause for a lot of evils, for example our obsession around calories and yellow-colored food. We are still "cave humans".
Truth, honesty and knowledge is VERY important to us.
When a cave-child asked a cave-dad why the sky was blue, he would get a very very simple answer. Whatever the answer was, the child would see no reason to ask again, and would recieve no conflicting explanation.
Their relation to truth and fact was very basic.

Ever since the advent of big society (after the agriculture/alcohol cultural revolution), the concept of "LIES!" became very important to safeguard tribal stability, by rejecting everyone elses sense of truth that did not correspond to your own.

By now, "LIES!" is a big part of society, since "LIES!" are all around us.
Even if we find actual, observable truth - such as a moose standing in front of you, or the sky being blue that day - there will always be a symbolic room for "LIES!" even down to pure semantics and existensialism "How do YOU KNOW - that there is a moose there. Maybe it's a hallucination? Maybe it's - The Matrix!"

In order words, people are stupid cavemen, and there is no hope.

*(Archaic Homo sapiens rarely if ever lived in caves. They prefered huts and tents, like todays "nature folks", and caves were probably used as storage facilities, as well as being obvious places for mining, and artistic expression (a cave-wall is safe from rain) It's just, we have a difficult time imagining our ancient forefathers, without switching over to monkey-people or something)
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2015, 06:42:51 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

It's easy to jump on the anti-religion bandwagon.  All we hear is the negative stuff, and if something bad happens, it'll be automatically put down to religion, where as, if it's a positive thing, it's ignored.

I'll admit that religion is not the root of all hatred or injustice but when has religion actually been a positive thing for the human race?

I'm sure you could look into that?  Two of the main concepts with Christianity is helping others and forgiveness, what's wrong with that?  I can't recite it off by heart, but there's a lot of positive things the church has done to help people, like taking in homosexuals when everyone else when things weren't like they were now.  Trust me, the world needs some kind of authority, just look at the decay of this country. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #126 on: February 20, 2015, 07:33:38 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

It's easy to jump on the anti-religion bandwagon.  All we hear is the negative stuff, and if something bad happens, it'll be automatically put down to religion, where as, if it's a positive thing, it's ignored.

I'll admit that religion is not the root of all hatred or injustice but when has religion actually been a positive thing for the human race?

I'm sure you could look into that?  Two of the main concepts with Christianity is helping others and forgiveness, what's wrong with that?

The fact that not all Christians abide by those two concepts.

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I can't recite it off by heart, but there's a lot of positive things the church has done to help people,

Well you have charity things set up by churches, Christian Aid and the like but it's done more harm than good for the human race. A couple of extra quid to the survivors of some natural disaster is nothing compared to the hurt and suffering caused by religion.

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like taking in homosexuals

A church that shuns then? That for centuries burned them alive? I don't think so.

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Trust me, the world needs some kind of authority,

That authority already exists, it's just run by corrupt politicians.

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just look at the decay of this country.

Looking at the decay of the world is more accurate.

One day, it will all go up in smoke so none of this matters really.  :dunno:

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2015, 06:21:27 PM »
You're just passing off/ignoring anything the church has done for good, and weighing up against any extremes. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


Leeeeeaaaave Benji alooooooone!  :bigcry:

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #128 on: February 27, 2015, 07:32:59 PM »
You're just passing off/ignoring anything the church has done for good, and weighing up against any extremes.

Err, not really considering how I mentioned the Red Cross in my post.