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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2013, 08:38:11 AM »
When you are actually drawing realistic stuff, and not fooling around in MS paint, you have to actively think a lot about the shapes and what you are drawing and figure out if it works out. So you get a better 'look' at things than when you are just perceiving an image.

Fooling around?
Made entirely on MS-Paint:

Original is bigger.

And, yes, of course, that was my point - drawing boobs is different from staring at boobs :D
But I was still curious about people who detail down their dripping sexual dreams :D

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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2013, 09:23:19 AM »
Oh, that looks good but it doesn't look realistic.

Why did you draw a guy with boobs?
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2013, 09:29:09 AM »
Oh, that looks good but it doesn't look realistic.

Why did you draw a guy with boobs?

It's not a guy. All female anatomical traits are present, and should be well visible from a distance, so if you see a guy there, then you must be expecting female characteristics to be greatly exaggerated or something (mega boobs, super-slim waist, manga-eyes, etc) and I'm not gonna do that.

Also, what do you mean by "realistic"? All proportions are present and correct. It's as realistic as it gets, unless you're refering to visual photorealism, which is something extremely difficult to achieve unless you are a master at Photoshop or classical oil painting. A bit of opaque fading color and shade isn't gonna cut it, if that's what you're aiming for ;D

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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2013, 11:19:18 AM »
I am no art expert, but it looks like line art & pixel art. Black/white photorealism is not so difficult (at least to give off that impression).

The proportions look more male than female. Especially the legs and the ribcage is too large. Arms a bit off, feet too fat, limbs too thick, etc. Rectangular shapes in general tend to look rather male than female.
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2013, 11:27:21 AM »
I am no art expert, but it looks like line art & pixel art. Black/white photorealism is not so difficult (at least to give off that impression).

The proportions look more male than female. Especially the legs and the ribcage is too large. Arms a bit off, feet too fat, limbs too thick, etc. Rectangular shapes in general tend to look rather male than female.

WELL that does it, you're talking out of your ass.

"Slightly off" compared to what? Batwoman? Miley Cyrus? Hillary Clinton?

Are you REALLY at a point where you need to be explained that humans come in different forms and shapes? I gave her strong thighs and arms - not as a blind, rambling, random mistake - but because she is a soldier, and therefore has strong running-thighs.

Come on, you should have ended your reply with "I am no art expert" and left it at that. The rest really drags what little credibility you had left right down in the mud.

What if I had drawn this woman?

Holy shit, EVERYTHING about her is "slightly off", so - despite being a photograph, it cannot be real, and it definitely isn't realistic :M

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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2013, 12:51:26 PM »
First, the tinier the picture the more you have to idealize the shape and make it symbolic, so that the content can still be identified easily. Otherwise you end up with shape and pixel blobs.

Second, the picture you showed is still large enough to make out male attributes. Women have different fat/muscle ratios than men and their legs and bodies look different, no matter how much they exercise and have muscles (unless they take steroids). The legs and joints, especially knee, are proportionally too thick, making it look like thick bones and thick joints. It is entirely disproportionate if compared to a fat woman or a muscular woman. The feet are at least 10% too short measured by the height, the right hand appears to be too big and the left too ambiguous from what you can make out. The pelvic bone should have a few pixels more height. The ribcage is 10% too big. There is no visible female curvature of the spine. The face is too small to make out anything, except for a nose that appears to be too large.

That goes along with the lack of idealization.

Like I said, the differences are minute if you consider the size. But given the size and that it is hard to make out much detail it are the most important factors to determine that it is a dude with breasts.
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2013, 12:54:05 PM »
It looks like a girl but not a real live girl because i'm a fucking super duper artist and shit lets examine the picture look at the body shes standing all tense and stuff like a guy or whatever that's manly reuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghqwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34ghreuhf;qwehgkrgfherfbewkgwhbfouerhgouhergouhroughurehgouhrwoughwurohgourhgouerhgoherouhgouerhgourheoughouerhgouerhgouhrougheoruhgoerhgouerhgohjnuhvuu34gh therefore, you are wrong and i'm right
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2013, 12:56:23 PM »
Manipulating human anatomy is very very tricky. If you are not drawing idealized versions, like manga line art and stuff that everyone can identify, it is extremely hard to do it right.

More muscles doesn't look just bigger, more fat doesn't either. If you scale parts of the body they look entirely different. Tall people look entirely different than short people. The eye quickly notices what is wrong.

I have been trying to draw women with exaggeratedly large pelvic bones, but it is so damn hard.
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2013, 12:58:00 PM »
Holy shit.  :facepalm2:
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2013, 01:01:42 PM »
It is the holy grail of drawing. Not just large asses, it is large pelvic bones!
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2013, 01:03:32 PM »
Jesus christ dude...

Here's something for you: Not everyone does art for the purpose of masturbating their penises, you know.

Your entire argument was about "idealization", who the hell brought up idealization untill you did it?

Are you really this dense?

You: "You drew unrealistically, because it didn't give me a boner."

YOU ARE DESPERATE. GET LAID. QUICKLY

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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2013, 01:03:48 PM »
It is the holy grail of drawing. Not just large asses, it is large pelvic bones!

Are you being serious right now?
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2013, 01:04:00 PM »
I find it funny when your shading is frankly shit. Also looking at your breast-popping drawing, you're not exactly well versed in the art of realism.

Then again, I'm not an expert either, but at least I don't judge with the pretense of otherwise.

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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2013, 01:04:59 PM »
Pretense. That about sums it up.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
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Re: drawing DuckFetishGirl naked - share your artwork
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2013, 02:01:35 PM »
You: "You drew unrealistically, because it didn't give me a boner."

Hahaha, I laughed a lot.

I have WDHD, that is why I dream about huge pelvic bones at night :( .
t͕̬̱̣̻he̘̳͍̯͇ͥ̾ ͇̉̋ĥ̖ͣi̘͕̙v͉̆̉e̠͓̐̔ ͕͍̺̝̑͛ͪṃ̯̳͙͗́i̓͑͌̿ͥ̐n̯͉̥̘͚͎̹ͮ͑̏ͤd̙̗̫̓ ̟̝̼͌̉́͑rͦ̋͗̃̐͛e̪̅p͂r̯̙̙̿e̳̟͔͔̼͍̪̅ͪͬ̔͛́̚s̰͈̭̞̭̥̃̐ͤ̽ͤĕ͕̹̙͒͆͒̍n͈̠̣ͪ̇ͩ͆ͩͅṯ͍̟͕̮͆̑͛̐͛ị̭̟̮̍̆ͥ̂̈́̅n̯͙̯̝̗͑͐̓g̻̠͊̂́ͤ ̂̄̒͌ͮ̐́̄̈̿̈ͫp̦̜͇̝̈͌̈ͭ̐̌s̜̼̪̪͍̩y̑ͪ̏ĉ̤͉̆h̹̫͖̱͙͉͙ȍ͐̅t͚̝ị̺̳ͮͬͬ̀ͅc͖̭͖̣̱͂͊̆ ̰̤̞̬̠̳̇ć̻̱͙͎̘̲̰hȃ̩͔̿̎͂̂̚o̦̱̩ś̹̗̥̤̝ͅ,̫͚̥͎͚͇͓͗ͬͪ͆ ͥ̃̌̀̉̈́h̋̾͛͗e̜ ͚̥̞̫̠ͫͮ͛̿c̈o͈͖͋̔͂̀ͬm̠̩̣ͧe̮ͯͪs̳̞̘͇͎̳͉̈́̃͂ ̞̎ͯh̖͚́̈̑̓̋ë̟̻̼̩́ͧͩ̎͛ ̯̲̖͕̖̘͉c͕o̻̝̰͓̙ͯ͋̃̊̈́͂̏m̬̩̃e̯͆̆͒ͩs̲ ̜͔̭͎s̼̟̰͉͈̅̒͂̎̿ͤo͈͖͋̔͂̀ͬo͈͖͋̔͂̀ͬn͈̠̣ͪ̇ͩ͆ͩͅ