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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2013, 12:47:57 PM »
Swedish doesn't sound like "bork bork". It's English that is a foul language. Read what the Swedish bishop Tegnér wrote about some languages 200 years ago  :M

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Grekiskan.
Sångmön älskar dig högst, ty modersmålet är kärast.
All den olympiska ätt, gracerna talte som du.
Troget, som klädningen fäst uppå den badande flickan,
Låter du känslorna ses, röjer du tankarnas växt.

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Ren är din stämma och skarp som rasslet av härdade klingor,
Hårt, som erövraren hövs, ljuder ditt härskareord.
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Halva Europa. Därpå känner man romarn igen.

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Älskade duva, bliv kvar och kuttra om längtan och njutning:
Skada ändå, i ditt land sjunga kastraterna bäst.

Spanskan.
Skön skall du vara och stolt. Jag känner dig icke, men mången,
Vilken ej känner dig mer, prisar dig högt i vår Nord.

Franskan.
Jollrande hoppar du fram och ljuger och komplimenterar,
Dock är din artighet täck, dock är ditt läspande sött.
Hylla vi längre dig ej som drottning för systrarna alla,
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Allt i ditt fädernesland med ångmaskiner bedrives;
Käraste, skaffa dig snart en för din tunga också!

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Smidig därjämte och skön; endast är munnen för bred.
Litet raskare ock! Lägg av ditt flegma, att icke
Meningens början är glömd, innan man hinner dess slut.

Danskan.
Mig behagar du ej. För veklig för nordiska styrkan,
Även för söderns behag mycket för nordisk ännu.

Svenskan.
Ärans och hjältarnas språk! Hur ädelt och manligt du rör dig!
Ren är din klang, säker som solens din gång.
Vistas på höjdernas du, där åskan och stormarna tala,
Dalarnas lägre behag äro ej gjorda för dig.
Spegla ditt anlet i sjön, och friskt från de manliga dragen
Tvätta det främmande smink, kanske det snart är för sent.

Sadly the Swedish language is dying.
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2013, 12:48:33 PM »
Lit, haha, that poem stays so factual and " :M " one could almost mistake it for an objective observation untill it gets to Swedish ;D
Oh my, I never knew Swedish - of all languages - was the pinnacle of linguistic lineage - the Jesus of languages!

That's because you are Norwegian. :P
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2013, 12:49:44 PM »
Its still how people talked in 1892 dude, and I have no desire to erase that history. Do you?

I see no reason to enshrine it, either, especially when it conflicts with the Constitution.

Something as huge as changing the pledge should be left to the public vote; at the moment, doubting the pledge would change. It's not a law; no one is forced to say it.

It was instituted by Congress. People vary it when they say it, and have done so historically.

Not enshrining something and attempting to erase it from history are fundamentally different things.

When I think of the Pledge of Allegiance, I consider it SERIOUS BUSINESS. :M I personally don't think of it as something to be taken lightly.

I think the remembrance of who we are and where we came from actually is pretty serious business. If we erase all that, how can we know where to go?

You come from all over the globe, mate. Are you saying that you want to return? :zoinks:
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2013, 01:23:55 PM »
Its still how people talked in 1892 dude, and I have no desire to erase that history. Do you?

I see no reason to enshrine it, either, especially when it conflicts with the Constitution.

Something as huge as changing the pledge should be left to the public vote; at the moment, doubting the pledge would change. It's not a law; no one is forced to say it.

It was instituted by Congress. People vary it when they say it, and have done so historically.

Not enshrining something and attempting to erase it from history are fundamentally different things.

When I think of the Pledge of Allegiance, I consider it SERIOUS BUSINESS. :M I personally don't think of it as something to be taken lightly.

I think the remembrance of who we are and where we came from actually is pretty serious business. If we erase all that, how can we know where to go?

You come from all over the globe, mate. Are you saying that you want to return? :zoinks:

No. I'm saying that it is important to remember the past in order to create a decent future.
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2013, 02:40:58 PM »
Its still how people talked in 1892 dude, and I have no desire to erase that history. Do you?

I see no reason to enshrine it, either, especially when it conflicts with the Constitution.

Something as huge as changing the pledge should be left to the public vote; at the moment, doubting the pledge would change. It's not a law; no one is forced to say it.

It was instituted by Congress. People vary it when they say it, and have done so historically.

Not enshrining something and attempting to erase it from history are fundamentally different things.

When I think of the Pledge of Allegiance, I consider it SERIOUS BUSINESS. :M I personally don't think of it as something to be taken lightly.

I think the remembrance of who we are and where we came from actually is pretty serious business. If we erase all that, how can we know where to go?

It's a vow. Should people make vows that they don't sincerely believe? Furthermore, should the United States government be tacitly encouraging people to take vows that affirm the existence of any deity? The oath of office spelled out in the Constitution makes no reference to God.
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2013, 02:49:19 PM »
I'm tired of living in a world full of goddamned sociopaths and murderers and i'm doing everything I can to put an end to it.

I do think that you actually believe this, but why don't you fill us all in on what you are actually doing besides complaining on the internet?  It doesn't seem to leave you a lot of time for running for office, starting grass-roots movements, etc.

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2013, 02:56:51 PM »
I think having children line up each morning and make an oath to a symbol of the government is frightening.

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2013, 02:59:45 PM »
I think having children line up each morning and make an oath to a symbol of the government is frightening.

It is. Governments are evil. Become an anarchist instead  :)

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2013, 03:20:09 PM »
I think having children line up each morning and make an oath to a symbol of the government is frightening.

But useful to those in power.
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2013, 04:40:16 PM »

Besides, I speak American. :zoinks:

There's the semicolon I remember. :M

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2013, 04:43:39 PM »


It's interesting that you chose that. The convention of Europe being "the west" and Asia being "the East" is older than America. It was probably created by some Roman.

A different west and a different east, though.

But it's just a cartoon I found vaguely amusing this morning.

Maps in American schools used to really look like that, with North America as the center of the world. Never met anyone who didn't get eastern and western nations though.

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #101 on: October 04, 2013, 04:44:50 PM »
Lit needs a, Sweden, fuck yeah!, thread. :laugh:

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« Reply #102 on: October 04, 2013, 04:45:50 PM »
Recte dicis, parva Jack!  :agreed: :indeed: :viking:

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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #103 on: October 04, 2013, 05:59:41 PM »
Lit needs a, Sweden, fuck yeah!, thread. :laugh:

I don't know if there's jingoism in Sweden. :laugh: Perhaps it should be titled "Sweden, if you please?"
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Re: America, fuck yeah!
« Reply #104 on: October 04, 2013, 06:03:14 PM »
I think having children line up each morning and make an oath to a symbol of the government is frightening.

So lets just erase our own history as a nation and forget where we came from so we make the same mistakes.

I'm tired of living in a world full of goddamned sociopaths and murderers and i'm doing everything I can to put an end to it.

I do think that you actually believe this, but why don't you fill us all in on what you are actually doing besides complaining on the internet?  It doesn't seem to leave you a lot of time for running for office, starting grass-roots movements, etc.

I think you actually believe this, but why don't you ask me what i'm doing besides complaining on the internet before getting all condescending and bitchy with me, you noxious cunt? I have plenty of time to run for office, but I would rather die than be a politician. You don't actually know what sort of activism I might be part of, or writings I might be doing. But I won't point you in the right direction for making change until you humble your uppity feminist ass and approach me politely like a decent human being.

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