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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2013, 03:29:04 AM »
'Enrichers', lit?

What is an enricher? the other guilty party in cases of miscegenation where mudslims are guilty of the practice? **as of course one cannot have miscegenation without two parties bearing the guilt of their wrongdoing.**

**(minimum...unless michael jackson counts if he ever tossed his own salad haha)**


I am to be quite frank, sick and tired of it, the way that the UK govt seems hellbent on getting our (NOT *theirs*, OUR!)
citizens killed in atrocities, and bending over backwards to slobber and fawn at the feet of allah, muhammid and their disgusting pack of cultists. This needs to stop. And it the government will not do so, then the private citizenry need to band together to kick them out of the country. Every last single one of them. Or failing kicking them out, WIPING them out.

Well mass murder is not really a good solution for anything dude, but you guys should have the right to do something at least.

Genocide due to religious affiliation? :thumbdn:

Yeah, I know. You don't have to KILL someone to make your point. I myself am a pretty fiery guy, but that's going a bit too far.

What if your point was that pushing someone off a 1000 foot cliff would kill them :P

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2013, 05:11:48 AM »
'Enrichers', lit?

What is an enricher? the other guilty party in cases of miscegenation where mudslims are guilty of the practice? **as of course one cannot have miscegenation without two parties bearing the guilt of their wrongdoing.**

**(minimum...unless michael jackson counts if he ever tossed his own salad haha)**


I am to be quite frank, sick and tired of it, the way that the UK govt seems hellbent on getting our (NOT *theirs*, OUR!)
citizens killed in atrocities, and bending over backwards to slobber and fawn at the feet of allah, muhammid and their disgusting pack of cultists. This needs to stop. And it the government will not do so, then the private citizenry need to band together to kick them out of the country. Every last single one of them. Or failing kicking them out, WIPING them out.

Well mass murder is not really a good solution for anything dude, but you guys should have the right to do something at least.

Genocide due to religious affiliation? :thumbdn:

Yeah, I know. You don't have to KILL someone to make your point. I myself am a pretty fiery guy, but that's going a bit too far.

What if your point was that pushing someone off a 1000 foot cliff would kill them :P

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2013, 07:40:36 AM »
There are also nearly one million people in the UK who are deaf and rely on sign language and lip reading in order to communicate.  :zoinks:

If a person relies on sign language rather than lip reading, then at least some of the time it's because they have to.  Very little information about what you are saying actually ends up on the lips, and those who lip read must supplement that information with what little hearing they have.  In either case, interpreters and written transcripts make the situation much more accessible than merely stripping some poor woman of her religious garb.

I was being facetious.   A bit like saying "oh those lipstick manufacturer's are losing custom"


Incidentally,  why is she a 'poor woman'?
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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2013, 07:49:27 AM »
There are also nearly one million people in the UK who are deaf and rely on sign language and lip reading in order to communicate.  :zoinks:

If a person relies on sign language rather than lip reading, then at least some of the time it's because they have to.  Very little information about what you are saying actually ends up on the lips, and those who lip read must supplement that information with what little hearing they have.  In either case, interpreters and written transcripts make the situation much more accessible than merely stripping some poor woman of her religious garb.

I was being facetious.   A bit like saying "oh those lipstick manufacturer's are losing custom"


Incidentally,  why is she a 'poor woman'?

She lives in the UK. :zoinks: :P
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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2013, 10:28:07 AM »
I'm not convinced body language or facial expression is useful.

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2013, 10:48:57 AM »
People  keep saying the burka is a religious garment.  I don't believe it is.  It is not even mentioned in the Quran.   The word hijab is mentioned (meaning veil) but not in any way as to describe a mulsim womans dress code.

The covering up of women is discussed and has been translated to mean a thousand different things.

As a practical item it is ancient.  Saudi's used to wear them in sand storms.

In other words a burka is about as religious as a balaclava.

It is not always forced upon women.  Some women make the choice.  No doubt though it is often used as a form of oppression.  It has no religious significance.  It is a tool for men to prevent other men seeing how beautiful their woman is (someone get me a bucket)

Saying that,  I don't think it is anyone else's right to prevent it's use. *Not unless absolutely necessary.  I would like to hear the voices of the women who wear it.  Sadly that voice is not very loud.

In the UK you do very much have to 'face the court'.  Of course no one can 'make you' speak.  You will however have to go to your trial and you will stand in the dock and face judgement.   You may see this as unfair or unjust.  It maybe so.  However you are not persecuting anyone on religious grounds by asking them to remove their veil.  You are not asking of her any more or less than anyone else in that situation.  A person would not be permitted to sit through their trial in a Balaclava.

When in Rome don't you have to do as the Roman's?

Also, I reckon a burka could interfere with doctor/patient trust.

BTW Lestat I have not heard that kind of talk in years.  It is like an Alf Garnett script.  Why the hatred and why generalise people so much?  It is like saying all scousers are thieves!



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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2013, 03:23:10 PM »
I'm not convinced body language or facial expression is useful.

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2013, 03:59:57 PM »
It wouldn't be murder. It would be comitting pesticide.

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2013, 05:15:34 PM »
Sounds a bit like Hitler

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2013, 05:17:32 PM »
We don't need Islam. If they don't like western civilisation, they can stay in their own shit countries.

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #85 on: September 27, 2013, 05:27:49 PM »
What about the ones who are born here?


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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #86 on: September 27, 2013, 05:29:07 PM »
If they are in favour of Islam they can move too. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #87 on: September 27, 2013, 05:30:38 PM »
How will you enforce that in your perfect little farming utopia then?


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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #88 on: September 27, 2013, 05:34:37 PM »
How will you enforce that in your perfect little farming utopia then?

We'll make them move.  :eyelash:

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Re: When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?
« Reply #89 on: September 27, 2013, 05:38:37 PM »
i'm sure that will work out really well