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where is Jimmy?
« on: June 19, 2013, 04:43:34 PM »
The FBI has called off the dig for Jimmy Hoffa in a suburban Detroit field where a tipster insisted he was buried alive.

No human remains were found during three days of excavation on the one-acre parcel, officials said.

"We're disappointed," said Robert Foley, head of the FBI's Detroit office.

The feds were led to the site by Tony Zerilli, who claims he was told the Teamsters Boss was whacked with a shovel and then entombed beneath concrete slabs in a barn.

"I know he's there," Tony Zerilli told NBC News before the search ended. "I'm not wrong."

Since Hoffa vanished in 1975, authorities have searched dozens of spots for his body. Informants have claimed he was dumped at Giants Stadium, fed to the alligators in the Everglades and shipped to Japan in a compacted car.

Investigators took Zerilli's claim seriously because he's alleged to be the former underboss of a Detroit crime family. Zerilli denies he was in the Mafia or involved in Hoffa's disappearance from a Detroit area restaurant.

Workers did find concrete slabs on property in Oakland Township, lending Zerilli's story some credibility. But backhoes and cadaver dogs failed to unearth anything to solve one of the country's most enduring mysteries.

The FBI said it deployed 40 agents for the search but did not say how much it cost.

"We do not have a profit margin as a bottom line," Foley said.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/19/19040037-latest-search-for-jimmy-hoffa-called-off-with-no-remains-found?lite

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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2013, 04:45:11 PM »
It's been more than 30 years since Teamsters leader Jimmy Hoffa disappeared. The FBI believes Hoffa was murdered by the mob, but no one has been able to find his body.

You could say the murder of Jimmy Hoffa began and ended in Las Vegas. Hoffa was killed because of mob activities on the Las Vegas Strip. And, it's likely the only person still alive with personal knowledge of Hoffa's death is someone who lives today in a quiet Las Vegas neighborhood.

People have been digging around for Jimmy Hoffa's body for a long time. There's a good reason they haven't found it.

Jimmy Hoffa, Teamsters president, said, "I don't intend to have the impression left that I'm controlled by gangsters. I'm not controlled by them."

Hoffa wasn't controlled by gangsters, but he certainly was beholden to the mob, which had helped him land the Teamsters presidency in the first place. Hoffa's successor, Frank Fitzsimmons was under Mafia control, according to lawmen, and did what he was told, especially regarding loans to Las Vegas casinos. Hoffa was a threat to that arrangement. In July 1975, he vanished forever.

Former organized crime prosecutor, Stan Hunterton said, "Everyone was sure organized crime did it and everyone was sure he was dead. He hadn't just disappeared or gone to a monastery."

Stan Hunterton and everyone else in the Detroit Strike Force office were galvanized by Hoffa's vanishing act. Within a few months, the FBI had compiled the Hoffex memo, a list of nine solid suspects. They knew Hoffa had gone to a certain restaurant and was picked up in a certain car, supposedly to attend a meeting with Mafia figures Tony Giacalone and Tony Provenzano. But that's where the trail grew cold.

In the ensuing decades, there have been many unsuccessful searches for Hoffa's remains, including a massive dig at a Michigan farm this summer. All manner of rumors have surfaced about the body being under Giants Stadium, or in a swamp, or chopped into dog food. No one knew for sure, except the killers.

Frank "The Irishman" Sheerhan was a Teamster official, Hoffa condifante, and Mafia hitman.   Near the end of his life, as he was dying of cancer, he confessed to his longtime lawyer Charles Brandt that it was he who gunned down Hoffa at this house in Detroit.

Charles Brandt: "How many shots were fired at Jimmy?"

Frank Sheerhan: "Two."

Charles Brandt: "You were the shooter?"

Frank Sheerhan: "That's right."

Brandt wrote a book based on Sheerhan's confession, I Heard You Paint Houses. The book has convinced former prosecutor Stan Hunterton and others that Sheerhan is telling the truth.   Forensic evidence taken from the car and from the house support Sheerhan's version. In the FBI's original Hoffex memo, Sheerhan was listed as a prime suspect. The feds did their best to pressure him into talking.

Charles Brandt said, "They went after him for anything. If he squeezed the Charmin in the supermarket, they would have arrested him. They hounded him and they got him. Sent him to prison for labor racketeering for 32 years."

But the only person Sheerhan talked to was Brandt, literally a deathbed confession. So what happened to Hoffa's body?

Frank Sheerhan: "Took the body to an incinerator, a funeral parlor. Yeah. How was it connected? They were friends of the people in Detroit."

Charles Brandt: "Jimmy was put in an incinerator and cremated?"

Frank Sheerhan: "Yeah."

According to Sheerhan, two other men were waiting inside the house for Hoffa. They were cleaners, Sheerhan said, assigned to handle the scene and the body.

Charles Brandt: "What happens to the blood in the house?"

Frank Sheerhan: "Clean up guys to clean up. They had to make sure everything's okay, everything's wiped down and all."

Sheerhan identified the cleaners as brothers, Tom and Steve Andretta. Those same names are listed among the FBI's original suspects. Hoffa's body was bagged and whisked to a mortuary that was less than two minutes drive from the house where it was immediately cremated.

Charles Brandt: "How incredibly easy it would have been in 1975 to dispose of a body in one of those ovens? The box is never opened. It's sealed. An hour after it's gone, all trace of Hoffa is gone. His jewelry is dust."

Frank Sheerhan: "If they would have buried him in the ground, they would have found him.  They didn't cause there was nothing left but dust."

As for the alleged cleaners, both served prison time following Hoffa's death. Steve Andretta died a few years ago. His brother Tommy -- now 68 -- lives in Las Vegas in a quiet neighborhood. The I-Team sent a request for an interview but received no response.

This may not be the final word on the Hoffa mystery, but those who know the case well say all the pieces fit.

Stan Hunterton commented, "It may not have happened exactly that way, but I think that's the gist of it."

While no one was ever convicted for the Hoffa murder, the Department of Justice prosecuted more than 30 mob figures for other crimes uncovered during the Hoffa investigation. Basically, everyone linked to the case did time for one crime or another, including Frank Sheerhan and Las Vegan Tommy Andretta.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/5689300/the-hoffa-files-the-missing-body-of-jimmy-hoffa

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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013, 04:59:52 PM »
I remember reports of Hoffa being seen alive in the 1980s but that turned out the be Tammy Faye Bakker without her makeup.

Richard Kuklinski claimed to have been in on, it but he was probably lying. Other sources claimed that Jimmy Coonan and/or Roy DeMeo was involved but I can't see either of them not bragging to their respective crews about it. Sheehan might have been the hands on guy but who ever did it answered to Tony Pro. Unlike Gotti Tony Pro was smart enough to not be an attention whore.

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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 05:03:44 PM »
^bazinga on the Tammy Faye line.

Why don't they just accept the account that he was cremated and close the case?
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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013, 05:11:08 PM »
^bazinga on the Tammy Faye line.

Why don't they just accept the account that he was cremated and close the case?
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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 05:11:22 PM »
That does sound very likely to me McJ. They knew damn well that a body would feed an investigation similar to the Yablonsky family murder investigation.

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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 07:11:15 AM »
I could use some backhoe work done for a new retaining wall in back.

Wonder if they'll believe Hoffa's buried in my back yard. :apondering:

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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 08:34:42 AM »
I could use some backhoe work done for a new retaining wall in back.

Wonder if they'll believe Hoffa's buried in my back yard. :apondering:

  They might, but then you could become a suspect, and that might mess up your whole summer.  :P
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Re: where is Jimmy?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 12:23:19 PM »
Jimmy was chopped up and fed to pigs or some such disposal method, his corpse would never have been left anywhere it could be discovered.