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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2012, 07:12:35 PM »
I imagine the result, would be insanity.
Zeg is already demented.
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2012, 11:43:40 AM »
Ahh but you WILL drift around forever, zegh. Sort of.
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2012, 02:09:29 PM »
I don't know about indestructible.

There are enough hazards in outer space that a human body could not possibly survive.

Aside from the obvious, floating into a star, and being fusion fireball chargrilled extra crispy, theres still black holes to suck you in, a short-bust spaghetti, the massive gravity of a neutron star,which would simply add you to itself, or alternatively, the incredibly powerful field generated by a magnetar,which, due to the diamagnetic susceptibility of the H2O we are; in a large part, made from, would be strong enough to rip you to shreds from a considerable way off (in addition, depending on the stage of its lifetime, giving off some whomping great X-ray and gamma emissions)

Or theres always a good ol' supernova, hypernova etc. to get caught in, various noxious chemicals have been discovered in space spectrographically. Or perhaps an encounter with a bit of free-floating antimatter. That would be pretty messy to say the least :D

Space weather is often very violent, to say the least.

I find astrophysics, and particle physics (insert trademark Science Officer Spock's trademark raised eyebrow here) fascinating :autism:
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 11:51:46 AM »
Some of only want to live until our next fix

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 11:00:14 PM »
Grammar, dude.  :P
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 11:21:07 PM »
And some of us, obviously, are loud-mouthed, boring spacktarded faggots with nothing better to do than follow one of the adults of the forum around like a kicked puppy; and who would be doing the world a favor by catching HIV and slowly, miserably dying in the gutter with the rest of their families.
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 08:12:50 AM »
I'll settle for the more or less indefinite lifespan offered by mind uploading.  I'd seriously like to get my head frozen, since uploading won't become a reality in my natural lifetime, and it's my only real chance at persisting beyond the next 70 or so years.  If it became a legally viable option, I could see myself opting to end things at 75 and get frozen in a controlled setting, rather than risking dying with no cryogenics team nearby to work on me before my brain has degraded past the point of being worth preserving, and to avoid the accelerating natural deterioration to my brain that would set in past that age.

I'd imagine your brain would go insane if your body were separated from it. It's built a life on sensory perception that would suddenly be removed. Just think of what people go through when they lose a limb. Sounds like a potentially excruciating existence.

I'd prefer to live about 300-400 years. That'd give me the opportunity to feel like life doesn't just ZOOM by, I could have a couple different careers, a couple different lives in fact. Sounds good.
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2012, 11:43:03 AM »
And some of us, obviously, are loud-mouthed, boring spacktarded faggots with nothing better to do than follow one of the adults of the forum around like a kicked puppy; and who would be doing the world a favor by catching HIV and slowly, miserably dying in the gutter with the rest of their families.

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2012, 01:24:38 PM »
Ahh but you WILL drift around forever, zegh. Sort of.

Forever is a LONG TIME
That's why I MUST land somewhere, sometime.

It's math:
Universe - nearly infinite floating space
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Interspersion with massive objects, near impossible odds compared to floating space

but the chance is there, if I have a 0,01% chance every 1000 years of floating, to hit an object, if you give me 100 000 years, we're up to 1%, after 10 million years of floating around, odds-wise, it should be about time I got dragged into the gravitational field of a planet or a star (ulp!) and landed there. I would stay there untill they are undone. If I stay on a star, I will be flung out by the ultimate blast, providing I survive the actual heat. This fling will send me flying at top speed, and increase my chances at encountering some surface again.
We keep playing with odds, if we separate planets from stars we should get different numbers - stars are more plentiful and heavyer, maybe I could count on a planet encounter every 1 billion years.
A quick number tossed out in a science show, was "intelligent life on every 10 000 star in the galaxy" - totally arbitrary of course, but we throw it in, and we get my possibility of crashing into a planet inhabited by intelligent life every 10 trillion years. Consider the universe NOW is only 13 billion years.
Who knows how long a universe even lasts? I am the firm believer that nothing is "ONE!" and that universes are many, in a system, maybe a system within a system within a system. "Big bang" is the start of ours, that certain, but this also means if universes come and go, I would persist inside the system governing the individual universes.

Somehow :I
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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2012, 07:51:23 PM »
What's the point of living forever if you'll still get a form of dementia? That's inevitable due to physical limitation on information. Considering your mind is still composed of cells, there's a limit on how much information they can retain. So once that limit is reached, you'll eventually lose your own sense of identity and memories of who you once were (as they'll have to overwrite old information to retain new information). You'll in essence become a different person psychologically every so often (not sure how long though).

In a way that's still death in itself for your current psyche.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 07:56:05 PM by ProfessorFarnsworth »
Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2012, 07:56:44 PM »
You're thinking too much, man. :P

Just assume that immortality also means perfect maintenance of the mind or something.

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2012, 12:19:22 PM »
If immortality means living for an infinite amount of time, than an infinite number of events will happen to you.  This means everything will happen to you.  This means that you will eventually end up stick someplace where you can't get out.  Does living for an eternity buried in a cave in the dark sound appealing?  It is statistically going to happen.

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Re: I want to live forever.
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 10:53:07 AM »
What's the point of living forever if you'll still get a form of dementia? That's inevitable due to physical limitation on information. Considering your mind is still composed of cells, there's a limit on how much information they can retain. So once that limit is reached, you'll eventually lose your own sense of identity and memories of who you once were (as they'll have to overwrite old information to retain new information). You'll in essence become a different person psychologically every so often (not sure how long though).

In a way that's still death in itself for your current psyche.

Brains are shown to be very versatile, you should know this. They can switch functions, move them around, and functions that are dead can be revived.
I am .. hoping.. :D that in my scenario, let's say I turn into a vegetable from millions of years of no impulses - once I am captured by some alien civilization, and probed and excamined, my mind will be forced to deal with all the new things. It could take a long time for functions to return, but in theory - they could :D