Should any government have the right to tell people what they can wear?

[Leto729]

jesus dying for the sins is the crux of the christian faith.

judas was instrumental in making that shit happen.

It was foreseen even prophesied about one of His disciples betray Him

reguardless, it was him that set the events in motion.

One had to and He was named Judas that is all.

[McGiver]

jesus dying for the sins is the crux of the christian faith.

judas was instrumental in making that shit happen.

It was foreseen even prophesied about one of His disciples betray Him

reguardless, it was him that set the events in motion.

One had to and He was named Judas that is all.

you seem to downplay his importance.  judas was the most influental of all the disciples as a result of his one act of betrayal.

and, according to your argument, it wasn't even betrayal at all.  it was his duty, since it was prophesized.  otherwise, jesus wouldn't have been perfect.

[Leto729]

jesus dying for the sins is the crux of the christian faith.

judas was instrumental in making that shit happen.

It was foreseen even prophesied about one of His disciples betray Him

reguardless, it was him that set the events in motion.

One had to and He was named Judas that is all.

you seem to downplay his importance.  judas was the most influental of all the disciples as a result of his one act of betrayal.

and, according to your argument, it wasn't even betrayal at all.  it was his duty, since it was prophesized.  otherwise, jesus wouldn't have been perfect.

I am just saying it had to happen for even one prefect Man to betrayed among imperfect man. Jesus death was more important that the betrayal from Judas for all of Mankind in the end.

[Litigious]

Please, people, are you really religious or are you just discussing religion in theory?

[McGiver]

its the chain of events that makes judas the most influential disciple.

[Leto729]

Please, people, are you really religious or are you just discussing religion in theory?

I am more spiritual than religious. For We must worship in spirit and truth.

[Leto729]

its the chain of events that makes judas the most influential disciple.

You are making Judas more important than the act of what He did. He had a choice We all have that choice to make in the end. Peter even saw more and understood more than Judas did for even He told Jesus He was the Son of God.

[McGiver]

but judas was preordained.  peter denied him three times.

[Leto729]

but judas was preordained.  peter denied him three times.

Nobody was preordained Judas let His heart decide in the end. We are all here and there weak for the spirit maybe strong but the flesh is weak.

[odeon]

and, according to your argument, it wasn't even betrayal at all.  it was his duty, since it was prophesized.  otherwise, jesus wouldn't have been perfect.

This is the predestined view, essentially.

[odeon]

Please, people, are you really religious or are you just discussing religion in theory?

Stick around and you might learn something.

[Tom/Mutate]

I wrote a really long and detailed post on this thread this morning and now I can't see it.  I dunno what happened.

[McGiver]

i warned them la mala.

if you preview your thread before you post it, then you have to post twice, since your session times out.

but would anyone listen to me?

[drewtheyellow]

You know what? Instead of having all of these religious disputes we should all go to one religion from which we will all benefit. I call this religion yellowism! It is based upon the worship of one divine being, that being being me! Its tenets are simple, give me all of your worldly wealth, your manual and mental labor, and if you are a woman much much more  I think that under this new religion we will all find that the world will be a better place.*


*better place from my perspective and not necessarily yours

[McGiver]

You know what? Instead of having all of these religious disputes we should all go to one religion from which we will all benefit. I call this religion yellowism! It is based upon the worship of one divine being, that being being me! Its tenets are simple, give me all of your worldly wealth, your manual and mental labor, and if you are a woman much much more  I think that under this new religion we will all find that the world will be a better place.*


*better place from my perspective and not necessarily yours

ok.

will you pee on me to show approval for my deeds?