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PeterMacKenzie vs. Bland
Peter:
--- Quote from: Bland ---You see, my dear people, the reason that I have not gotten seriously and deeply involved in a debate on Creation vs. Evolution is because I don't believe I can do it justice in my present situation. I have heard the debate and it can be well done but I am not joking around when I complain about college. I am taking only three classes but I also have 6 (count them, 1,2,3,4,5,6) kids ranging in age from 4 to 19 and a husband and I have cleaning jobs (yes, I'm a cleaning lady but I don't wear a french maid's uniform, just jeans and a t-shirt). I am currently making a 3.95 gpa (very proud of that) and barely keeping up with my own household duties and my children with all of their activities and drama! I do not want to do my Lord and His Creation an injustice by sloppily and half-heartedly debating one of the most fundamental issues of our time. I do not dislike evolutionists (especially not PeterM because he's so dang charming and cute) but I will smoke him in a debate. Now I don't want to scare the kilt off of you but maybe this summer when my classes drop to only 2 and after my kids' graduation open houses I might be able to take you on. :twisted: In the mean time we could just do a little jousting on the thread that J-Girl and Keven have provided. Not truly a real debate but some bantering. Some exchange of opposing views.
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Pyraxis:
Wel, tell her that if she doesn't hurry up and speak up for what she believes on, the world is going to move on without her, science is going to have its way, and she's going to be looked on as an antique curiousity, a museum fanatic.
Peter:
That's the debate underway, or at least a debate. We're not really on evolution at the moment; more general creationism stuff.
Peter:
--- Quote from: Pyraxis on April 16, 2006, 10:56:34 AM ---Wel, tell her that if she doesn't hurry up and speak up for what she believes on, the world is going to move on without her, science is going to have its way, and she's going to be looked on as an antique curiousity, a museum fanatic.
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Sadly, as science moves on and becomes increasingly specialised, sophisticated and incomprehensible to lay-persons, religion and supernaturalism are increasing to fill the gaps left in people's mindscapes by theories and information that have exceeded their cognitive abilities and education. Religious fanaticism is most definately not a receeding phenomena; it just went through a temporary recession while science was powerful enough to explain, at least in principle, most known (at the time) phenomena, but simple enough to be understandable almost in it's entirety by a moderately well educated person of average intellect.
Nowadays, unless a topic happens to be their field of specialisation, even the brightest and most educated are forced to take on faith, and the assurances of the specialists, the more esoteric of theories. How many people are capable even in principle of understanding string theory at the mathematical level? Even fairly simple concepts such as mechanisms of gene-mutation ellude a majority of the population.
Peter:
http://pearlsofwisdom.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?p=1050&mforum=pearlsofwisdom#1050
--- Quote from: Bland ---I am fundamental in that I believe in the inspired Word of God; that it is the Word of God in it's original form. That the Bible is the final authority in all matters of conscience and faith. I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. God eternally exists in three persons, the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. I believe in the literal 6 day creation. I believe in the resurrection. I believe that there will be a judgment one day. I believe in salvation through God's grace through belief in His son and his finished work on the cross. That all of our good deeds are as filthy rags to God but faith in His son's sacrifice on our behalf is all that is necessary for salvation from the judgment unto damnation. I believe that God is longsuffering and merciful and has accomplished all of the work for us and opened the way of salvation, freely for all who will recieve it. I believe in the rapture of 1 and 2 Thess. and the Apocalypse of Revelation.
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--- Quote ---The six days of Creation sound very literal because the Bible states 'there was morning and evening, the first day' and so on. I don't find this to be a problem because if God is able to create anything at all, then He is able to do it in a millisecond, or less if He wants. Adding millions of years doesn't make any sense to me. Also, there is alot of evidence for a young earth, you just don't hear about it because most scientists are trying to validate evolution or at least starting their presuppositions from the evolutionary model. Before the theory of evolution became vogue, scientists did not have a problem with a young earth. But since evolution has become the official religion of science, they need to prove the earth to be billions of years old. There are no qualifiers on the Judgement day so it is possible this could be a time period or one day.
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Meh. I'm going to have my work cut out for me on this one.
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