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Re: I wish i could 'unsee' this
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2011, 04:50:30 PM »
I think there is a difference between looking glam and
beautiful  to a toddler trying to look 'sexy'.

The beauty contest thing is not something
i would want my own kids to aspire to.  Beauty is something
to admire, yes definitely,  but it comes low down on my list
of qualities in people that are important.

JMO   :dunno:

You definitely make good points and I have never entered my daughter into a beauty pageant or entered one myself for that reason.  However, I refuse to look down my nose at my aunt for entering her daughter into one.  Maybe being pretty isn't the most important thing, but it was something that my aunt was proud of and it didn't cause any harm.

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Re: I wish i could 'unsee' this
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2011, 05:14:04 PM »
That is cool...  i don't think your aunt did anything wrong either.
I am sure she is responsible enough to teach her kids about other
values too.

A small number of pushy parents sadly don't.  That is when i think
it becomes wrong.

I also think parents who push their kids academically, even though
they excel in more practical skills are wrong too. 

I suppose it is about balance.  Cyndi Lauper said  " take a
beautiful girl and hide her away from the rest of the world.." - which
i don't agree with either. 

I dunno if the stuff i have seen on TV has been
exaggerated or what,  but some of the parents are completely awf their
fucking head! constantly grooming their kid,  until their kid no longer does kid things.  Not saying all, but a few appear like this.
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Re: I wish i could 'unsee' this
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2011, 09:02:44 PM »
What a great mother, encouraging her daughter to break gender barriers and become a firefighter when she grows up.

Nice way of looking at it. :lol:

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Re: I wish i could 'unsee' this
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2011, 09:14:49 PM »
Meh!

That's not as bad as a couple here in San Luis Obispo.

They let their toddler eat some cocaine. They had to call an ambulance when it started convulsing.

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Re: I wish i could 'unsee' this
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2011, 12:51:07 AM »
I've seen that before too , it is pretty shocking.

As shocking as things like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8619329.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7470000/7470077.stm

We live in a world where very young children are being exposed to sexuality and the notions of looking "sexy" or "attractive" are being picked up on at increasingly younger ages, it's wrong but this is not a new thing.  :-\

Babies in heels makes no sense at all. Toddlers trying the heels of their mother, or asking a princess outfit with plastic, slightly heeled slippers is a bit different.

Birthday parties for primary school girls, where they can learn pole-dancing is horrendous imo, and happening.

 :agreed:

My older sister used to dance and was ins hows at the age of 7 so she was wearing full make up at a very young age there of course is nothing wrong with that nor is there anything wrong with a mother and a daughter doing make up together.

Teaching girls at that age IS wrong on one hand but I suppose the elements on what the emphasis is on can make a difference.

E.g , If the emphasis on pole dancing is to look sexy and etc yes that is wrong
if the emphasis is on it being good exercise (it's supposed to be a brilliant way to lose weight apparently  :orly:) and a dance form or w.e I suppose that isn't as bad.

That ones a bit of a trickier subject I guess.

What I saw of it, there were entertainment like outfits for girls.  :finger:

 Yeah, I also say  :finger:  to the  "pageant parents"  who doll up their preschoolers to look like adults,
 all because of their own show-business ambitions.


You and hyke both saw my facebook status about that I think.

I'll post it here:

"Child Beauty pageants are disgusting , why do we need a massive debate to realise that sexualisation of children is wrong? , just ban them already."

I disagree with banning child's beauty pageants.  My aunt put her daughter in a beauty pageant and I went to it to see her and I didn't see any harm in it.  She was a beautiful little girl, so what's wrong with her parents thinking that she's the most beautiful little girl in the world, buying her a frilly little pageant dress and putting her into a beauty pageant?

BTW, my former sister-in-law also put her baby daughter, my nephew's half-sister, in the same beauty pageant.  She won a trophy for having the "Prettiest Eyes" and my former sister-in-law didn't buy her a frilly little pageant dress.  She was wearing a pretty but ordinary baby dress and her mom sprayed her hair with water from a mist bottle to make it curl naturally.  She really does have very pretty eyes.

Fair enough but I really disagree with putting emphasis on being "pretty" and "beautiful" on kids at such an early age.

Child wins award for being beautiful.
Child loses for not being beautiful enough.

Idk those two things seem like they could teach a child some pretty bad things.

While I can understand Callaway's point, I do agree with Squid here. This "parenting method" is exactly why I believe we have such histrionic sugar daddy drama queens living on our planet.