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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2011, 04:48:26 AM »
its the _third_ time i tell him: velociraptor isnt 3 feet tall, its 2 feet tall. a nitpickery, but JUST TRUST ME... dont get competitive, dont get angry, just ACCEPT A FACT.
its like im "ruining" his image of velociraptor or something

What you really mean to say, is that current specimens are that tall. It's entirely possible to find a specimen that's 3 feet tall.

what?
its entirely possible? how?

every single grown velociraptor specimen known measures roughly 2 metres in length, and 60 cms height.
i mean to say what i say, and i say what i mean to say:
its 2 feet tall
its not 3 feet tall.

3 feet tall is a traditionalist view, based on _incorrect posture_

youll find the same with tyrannosaurus, sources saying its "6-7 metres tall" when in reality its more like 4 metres tall, again, based on outdated postures given to them

(to come across a 3 feet velociraptor, it'd have to be 3 metres long. such a significant difference in size would make it not be velociraptor. thats like coming across a 2 metre tall wolf. it would be _something else_. a 3 metre long velociraptor can be known as Deinonychus, for example, its very similar, and was 3,3 metres long)

Well, you sure make a good job in confusing me.  :orly:

Could you please use just one system of length, either with feet and such, or with meters?

And then I am good at mixing up the meanings of the words "tall" and "long" too. But, that is my own problem. Combined with 2ft/3ft 2m/3m it makes the velociraptor a lot like a barbapapa though.

velociraptor is 180 cm's long, and more or less 60 cms tall :]

my point to everyone is that altho it may not seem like it, adding an entire 100 cms, is a difference great enough to consider it being a different animal. This animal has allready been found, and allready been deemed different, its called deinonychus, and its 330 cms long, and about 100 cms tall :]

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2011, 05:35:00 AM »
the much taller calculations all come from pre-90s depictions of dinosaurs with a much more vertical body posture:

It looks as if it would have to drag its tail around. The proportions there don't look right to me.
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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2011, 07:38:41 AM »
the much taller calculations all come from pre-90s depictions of dinosaurs with a much more vertical body posture:

It looks as if it would have to drag its tail around. The proportions there don't look right to me.

its an outdated image, the postures are all wrong

in reality, a tyrannosaur would pace in a totally vertical and effortless posture, with the pelvis at a perfect centre of gravity. also, that image shows the artist didnt base his image on an actual tyrannosaur skeleton at all

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2011, 07:42:33 AM »
Yeah those bottom pictures make much more sense.
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