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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 07:45:01 PM »
The apatosaurus has blood dripping from its mouth.  :laugh:

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 07:49:37 PM »
The apatosaurus has blood dripping from its mouth.  :laugh:

They are vampire dinos :orly:
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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2011, 07:51:05 PM »
The apatosaurus has blood dripping from its mouth.  :laugh:

I think tthey're all eating eachother, except the one that looks like a Pterodactyl.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2011, 07:54:58 PM »
The apatosaurus has blood dripping from its mouth.  :laugh:

I think tthey're all eating eachother, except the one that looks like a Pterodactyl.
Pterodactyl's are voyueristic fucks. That's why the other dinosaurs didn't like them.

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2011, 08:02:46 PM »
Maybe the pterodactyls were scavengers and it's hanging around like a vulture waiting to feast on the left overs.

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2011, 08:57:13 PM »
And Then There's This: 



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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2011, 09:20:51 PM »
Why is that white phlegm on his tongue?  ???

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2011, 09:38:48 PM »
Why is that white phlegm on his tongue?  ???

The Weinersaurus?
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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2011, 09:51:17 PM »
Why is that white phlegm on his tongue?  ???

The Weinersaurus?

You shouldn't've posted this. Now Richard will use that as his new username.  :facepalm2:  ::)

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2011, 10:54:42 PM »
My badass Jurassic Park image of raptors has been shattered :'(

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2011, 01:21:14 AM »
its the _third_ time i tell him: velociraptor isnt 3 feet tall, its 2 feet tall. a nitpickery, but JUST TRUST ME... dont get competitive, dont get angry, just ACCEPT A FACT.
its like im "ruining" his image of velociraptor or something

What you really mean to say, is that current specimens are that tall. It's entirely possible to find a specimen that's 3 feet tall.

what?
its entirely possible? how?

every single grown velociraptor specimen known measures roughly 2 metres in length, and 60 cms height.
i mean to say what i say, and i say what i mean to say:
its 2 feet tall
its not 3 feet tall.

3 feet tall is a traditionalist view, based on _incorrect posture_

youll find the same with tyrannosaurus, sources saying its "6-7 metres tall" when in reality its more like 4 metres tall, again, based on outdated postures given to them

(to come across a 3 feet velociraptor, it'd have to be 3 metres long. such a significant difference in size would make it not be velociraptor. thats like coming across a 2 metre tall wolf. it would be _something else_. a 3 metre long velociraptor can be known as Deinonychus, for example, its very similar, and was 3,3 metres long)

How tall are you compared to Shaquille O'Neal??  I rest my case. Variations of that degree are possible within a species.

Seriously Zegh, you believe in the possibility of a Yeti, but not a 3' tall velociraptor.  :zombiefuck:

Science isn't one of your stronger subjects, is it??  :LOL:  :LOL:  :LOL:

your not listening
its not about belief

a "3 metre long velociraptor" exists, but by definition, its not a velociraptor, because its too different, as in, too big to fit the definition that is "velociraptor"
if we come across a 3 metre long wolf, we'd assume its not the common wolf, but another species no?
or a 2 metre tall bear
or a 16 metre long crocodile

do you get what i am saying?
theres allready a whole myriad of Dromaeosaurs, that is, dinosaurs related to Velociraptor, in all shapes and sizes. they all have different names  ::)

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2011, 01:28:03 AM »
Velociraptors aren't defined by size retard, they're a fucking genus.

Genus has nothing to do with size, it's defined by DNA you fucking MORON!!!  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2011, 02:59:44 AM »
I am no scientist (by far lol) but I would have to agree with scrap on this. if it's a velociraptor then it's a velociraptor, no matter how unusual its size is

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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2011, 04:01:32 AM »
I am no scientist (by far lol) but I would have to agree with scrap on this. if it's a velociraptor then it's a velociraptor, no matter how unusual its size is

why should size be _irrelevant_?

im not talking a variation of 10 cms, but a whole metre.

from 2, to 3 metres.

scrap:

how many 3 metre long wolves have humans recorded?
"you moron"  ::)

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i repeat:
the 3,3 metre long one _exists_, its called Deinonychus antirrhopus, look it up. its your 3 metre velociraptor. it has another name. there it is. its identical in almost every single way, except for size.

Velociraptor:

Deinonychus:

the deinonychus skull could have any shape, since very few fragments have ever been found.

scrap, i know you are very proud you know what "genus" is, but dont throw the "MORON" around as if you know a lot about a subject you know a little about  ::)

furthermore, in paleotaxonomy especially, "genus" is _very_ subjective, since there are no actual biological material to use (like genes) to determine what is what, not even for "species", but much less for "genus". it comes down to what we deem diagnostic on the animal to _define_ it as a certain "genus". within the dromaeosaurid family theyre _all_ quite similar, with the only differences being skull-shapes, hip-shapes, and size. the difference between a 2 metre animal, and a 3 metre animal, is quite enough to conclude that theyre most likely different species, and if we feel like it, different genera.
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Re: traditionalism in science
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2011, 04:28:52 AM »
its the _third_ time i tell him: velociraptor isnt 3 feet tall, its 2 feet tall. a nitpickery, but JUST TRUST ME... dont get competitive, dont get angry, just ACCEPT A FACT.
its like im "ruining" his image of velociraptor or something

What you really mean to say, is that current specimens are that tall. It's entirely possible to find a specimen that's 3 feet tall.

what?
its entirely possible? how?

every single grown velociraptor specimen known measures roughly 2 metres in length, and 60 cms height.
i mean to say what i say, and i say what i mean to say:
its 2 feet tall
its not 3 feet tall.

3 feet tall is a traditionalist view, based on _incorrect posture_

youll find the same with tyrannosaurus, sources saying its "6-7 metres tall" when in reality its more like 4 metres tall, again, based on outdated postures given to them

(to come across a 3 feet velociraptor, it'd have to be 3 metres long. such a significant difference in size would make it not be velociraptor. thats like coming across a 2 metre tall wolf. it would be _something else_. a 3 metre long velociraptor can be known as Deinonychus, for example, its very similar, and was 3,3 metres long)

Well, you sure make a good job in confusing me.  :orly:

Could you please use just one system of length, either with feet and such, or with meters?

And then I am good at mixing up the meanings of the words "tall" and "long" too. But, that is my own problem. Combined with 2ft/3ft 2m/3m it makes the velociraptor a lot like a barbapapa though.
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