^ And this is how you respond when someone points out (as I said, refer to my first and succinct post), that you, in fact started getting defensive on something that was intended as care and concern for a member.
I DID NOT necessarily endorse Phlexor's comments about your marriage. I SAID that he used it perhaps as a way to demonstrate how disgusted he was at your behaviour at Kit, and used his opinion on a previous situation where he believed you demonstrated similar behaviour.
I would even question that he used it to hurt you perse, but rather show how disgusted he was with your attitude towards Kit.
As to your second point and being that Phlex is obviously a large part of my life and know my innermost workings and that of my ex-wife...oh...wait on. You see the problem here? But he sees how I relate to women generally in my everyday...oh...damn. There is a point there somewhere about how he has some understanding of something. What was it? "previous example of how he felt you treated women with disgregard previously" (that was you wasn't it?) You believe that he is some kind of a decent judge on these things or something? Am I close?
I did post a lot of stuff before Kit did. I think it back my point reasonably well and I don't think it was too heavy-handed or brutal and I think she responded well enough. Where the foul is I still can not see. As I said with my posted reply to Callaway.
That's between you and he to sort out if you think he took advantage of personal information. Perhaps you should have addressed that directly?
You believe that he is some kind of a decent judge on these things or something? Am I close?
No, I just think you shot down a man who was trying to bring to your attention that you might be misguided in starting something with Kit. I don't think he deserved to be shot down for that.
And no, just because I think someone's heart was in the right place, doesn't mean I necessarily agree with them. If I observe what went on, it seems he was shocked by your arrogance and perhaps thought having a go at your marriage was a shot at getting across how low he thought your respect for women was.
He hasn't hurt me and he hasn't taken advantage of personal information. I don't see where you are getting this.
I was not being arrogant or defensive. Again I will state and I hope this is making some kind of sense this time around that he WAS getting personal regardless of what kind of moral high horse he rode in on, and as a result I got personal back and OF COURSE he deserved to get shot of the damn thing. Again if someone gets personal with you, you ought not meekly take it. That would be fucking ridiculous. I am mind-boggled that you would think of it as such.
If someone malign you as a parent (personal attack - with me) for whatever reason (heart in the right place or not) I would not find it at all "low and schoolgirlish" for you to counter this in a like personal manner. tat for fat I say.
You have chosen though to say this of my behaviour. His behaviour, what exactly have you said there?
Yup don't try to say that this was an impartial viewpoint, or that you were not supporting his right to say whatever, and denouncing my right to respond in kind. It wasn't and you really ought not need this pointed out because it is as clear as clear.
If we can not respond to people getting personal with us then where the hell am I? I thought I was at I2 and I thought people knew what the hell this place is for and what was expected repartee? You and Saint Phlexor should know better.
If Phlexor wanted to take a shot to prove some point of his, he has tried it fully knowing what he was doing and being prepared to be reacted on. He got reacted on and there is no foul.
But perhaps to spell it out for me. Tell me if someone attacked you personally what would you have done? Same setting. Go hard Eclair and tell me how you would have played patty-cake with them or told them that you felt their pain or sung a couple of choruses of Kumbaya.
BTW I am "shocked by HIS arrogance" and his low view of Kit and her ability to defend a viewpoint, because she is Kit "we are talking about" or because she is pregnant. I find it insulting.