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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2006, 02:17:15 PM »
I guess I should have mentioned you, McJ. They were only examples, though.  :-\
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2006, 02:28:03 PM »
Good grief, doesn't he have a hobby or something... ::)
He does need a hobby for sure.
i think the hobby is dunc!
It sure does look this way.

RobertN I think this has really gone a bit to far in the end.
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2006, 02:33:42 PM »
Well, Robert knows where to find me.  ::)
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2006, 08:34:31 PM »
I wont even waste my breath defending anything the silly little boy or his "sweeties" fuck buddy or ex fuck buddy has said regarding me on the aspietrash threads (apt name for the site though judging by the threads i was alerted to by someone here.) ;D since im aware of how messed up Roberts head is and how poor his judgement is, there is no point in addressing someone who cant see the forest for the trees, not just because he cant, but because hes in denial and refuses to.

They're bitching threads there are actually rather funny, it can be hysterical to read some of the things that have been written and observe their tedious and pathetic but sometimes just as hilarious sessions, Robert seems to be a tad obsessed, he definetly does need to find himself a life and a new hobby, however if his current one works for him and helps him with his self esteem issues etc then good for him.

Even though i found it all childish and comedy entertainment value, i was told off for laughing and made perfectly clear by someone i know who is in the legal field and was talking to yesterday (discussing an opportunity with and having a laugh with at the aspie trash threads i was linked to etc) that i shouldnt find it ALL funny as certain comments shouldnt be taken so lightly, joked about or encouraged, and if personal details of certain individuals could be found, which may not be too hard, depending, they could indeed be incited. (Even though there are apparently other methods and resources for dealing with it, which even though i tried to weasle those out of him, he just grinned and kept quiet regarding. I thought i could crack him with the flutter of my eyelashes or even "the look" but he had nerves of steel and i didnt want to push my luck considering he was already doing me a favour in regards to something else). ;D

Peter was named as having reasonable grounds to have RobertN incited in the UK, calling someone a paedo etc without having proof beyond reasonable doubt would not be taken lightly apparently, certain comments that were made would be deemed highly offensive and libel (poss even slanderous if he repeats them offline) with the intention of causing harm to ones character. Even though the law can be sketchy in the area of electronic harrassment, defamation and abuses, he has witnessed successful cases regarding similar issues and there are loopholes in the law for being succesful in hauling someone over the coals in some way or such, aslong as there are reasonable grounds.

Personally i do agree with a few things that were said regarding peters porn web links (he himself was aware of my opinion at the actual time which i made clear again lastnight when he brought it up via msn regarding a thread at aspietrash, i even made my stance public again in Jizz's thread) but i would not refer to someone as being a paedo without having more information and a reasonable amount of proof to back up my opinions/claims. If i honestly believed someone was of that nature and/or a danger to children or others i would alert the relevant authorities/people to investigate rather than jump to conclusions and make that type of judgement straight away for myself without more detailed information/investigation and/or substantial proof etc. There are certain things you should be careful about saying and certain labels you should be very careful and wary of handing out. Mud does indeed stick, you can have your opinions and speculate but you still need to be careful in regards to what you say when dealing with such sensitive topics especially if you dont have the proof necessary as there could be big consequences for both parties including when it comes to their reputations (the consequences are much bigger for the other person if you are indeed wrong).

Hey i was thinking...maybe Purposeful could get Robert into knitting. ;D

I think the key is to not pay much attention to what is said by Robert and his bitching buddies because we all know whats going on there, well most of us can read between the lines. Its all silly and very immature, especially the directing certain people to intensity to sign up in order to retreive "certain information" to relay back, which he apparently got huffy about when one person began to like it here and wouldnt give him what he wanted, but i must admit it is oh so funny. The callouts always crack me up inside too even though part of me does get embarassed for him.

I wouldnt get too bothered by it Odeon and dont let it put you off running for admin either, dont fuck up my list!.  ;) :)

By the way as you can tell, given im posting in this thread im bored as fuck tonight, give it another hour and i will wake up tommorrow regretting sending filthy txts and x-rated photos to the guy i had been seeing. :laugh:

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2006, 12:57:33 AM »
I wouldnt get too bothered by it Odeon and dont let it put you off running for admin either, dont fuck up my list!.  ;) :)

I'm not that bothered, and Robert cannot make me change my mind about anything. What sort of bothers me is how he can't see that he's being used.

Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence, HG! ;D
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2006, 01:18:46 AM »
why dont you guys just stop talking about him and at the same time get back at him by just not getting antagonised by him...

incidentally i was watching that program on ITV last night called "I Smack and I'm Proud", and there was a lady on it who said that if you smack your child, its because they are so young that they wont connect the smacking with a misdemeanour they caused...

so obviously in the same case here, verbally smacking him after he's made a 'BooBoo' obviously aint the right way to *ahem* go about it...

what people used to do to me to get me to understand this point in college was just ignore me, then after a while they'd sit down and say, well we've been ignoring you for so and so long, why do you think we did etc and i learned...

what do u think ?

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2006, 05:34:33 AM »
why dont you guys just stop talking about him and at the same time get back at him by just not getting antagonised by him...

incidentally i was watching that program on ITV last night called "I Smack and I'm Proud", and there was a lady on it who said that if you smack your child, its because they are so young that they wont connect the smacking with a misdemeanour they caused...

so obviously in the same case here, verbally smacking him after he's made a 'BooBoo' obviously aint the right way to *ahem* go about it...

what people used to do to me to get me to understand this point in college was just ignore me, then after a while they'd sit down and say, well we've been ignoring you for so and so long, why do you think we did etc and i learned...

what do u think ?

excellent idea, but i for one wonder if i have the patience to do it.
it would require control, i doubt i have that ability.
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2006, 05:58:40 AM »
then you must exercise caution young genin ;D

think of it as a personal patience-no-jutsu 8)

and try not to get too mad... or like this...

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2006, 06:13:31 AM »
then you must exercise caution young genin ;D

think of it as a personal patience-no-jutsu 8)

and try not to get too mad... or like this...

thats my problem, i have red chakkra in me.  i really cannot control it yet.
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2006, 06:22:42 AM »
dude FFS does it look remotely RED.... (ok its one of the colours in the combo)...


FFS ITS ORANGE MOFO

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2006, 06:37:31 AM »
dude FFS does it look remotely RED.... (ok its one of the colours in the combo)...


FFS ITS ORANGE MOFO

but they say in the show that they have never seen red chakkra before.
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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2006, 07:41:55 AM »
yea well the japanese are ALL color blind so who cares ;D

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2006, 10:50:14 AM »
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I'm not that bothered, and Robert cannot make me change my mind about anything. What sort of bothers me is how he can't see that he's being used.

You obviously know some of the same things as me then. I agree with that odeon.

His naivety and "not wanting to see the truth" is frustrating because he does seem sweet in his own way and is trying to fight for something hes being fooled into believing is real, but me trying to open his eyes was why he developed holding a grudge for me and im aware of that, some people just cant handle the truth especially in relation to being told theyve been fucked over by someone and are being used and treated like a joke behind the scenes.  So good luck to him, hes made his decisions, divisions etc and hes gonna have a hard fall at some point, but when he does hes gonna have to accept the consequences of the decisions he made and things hes said just like proper adults do. I just hope when the time comes when he sees whats been hidden from him and the like that things dont take too big a toll on him and hes able to get up from that fall since such betrayals can be too hard for some to deal with.

I understand where hes coming from in the sense of why hes lashing out etc even though i know hes wrong and hes handled himself badily etc, i dont hate him or anything remotely like that (which i think he may assume) i just find him stupid and lacking initiative or common sense, even reality etc in the sense of there are things in front of him he refuses to see, some which genuine people have tried to tell him so he doesnt keep getting taken the piss out of and used, but even though hes clutching straws and lashing out at the board, certain members, holding grudges etc, i imagine deep down himself he probably has suspicions somewhere that some of us here were indeed right about certain things, he just doesnt want to believe them and is trying to cling on to the hope its wrong.

As for the vote of confidence, no problem Odeon. ;)

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2006, 12:22:27 PM »
I wont even waste my breath defending anything the silly little boy or his "sweeties" fuck buddy or ex fuck buddy has said regarding me on the aspietrash threads (apt name for the site though judging by the threads i was alerted to by someone here.) ;D since im aware of how messed up Roberts head is and how poor his judgement is, there is no point in addressing someone who cant see the forest for the trees, not just because he cant, but because hes in denial and refuses to.

They're bitching threads there are actually rather funny, it can be hysterical to read some of the things that have been written and observe their tedious and pathetic but sometimes just as hilarious sessions, Robert seems to be a tad obsessed, he definetly does need to find himself a life and a new hobby, however if his current one works for him and helps him with his self esteem issues etc then good for him.

Even though i found it all childish and comedy entertainment value, i was told off for laughing and made perfectly clear by someone i know who is in the legal field and was talking to yesterday (discussing an opportunity with and having a laugh with at the aspie trash threads i was linked to etc) that i shouldnt find it ALL funny as certain comments shouldnt be taken so lightly, joked about or encouraged, and if personal details of certain individuals could be found, which may not be too hard, depending, they could indeed be incited. (Even though there are apparently other methods and resources for dealing with it, which even though i tried to weasle those out of him, he just grinned and kept quiet regarding. I thought i could crack him with the flutter of my eyelashes or even "the look" but he had nerves of steel and i didnt want to push my luck considering he was already doing me a favour in regards to something else). ;D

Peter was named as having reasonable grounds to have RobertN incited in the UK, calling someone a paedo etc without having proof beyond reasonable doubt would not be taken lightly apparently, certain comments that were made would be deemed highly offensive and libel (poss even slanderous if he repeats them offline) with the intention of causing harm to ones character. Even though the law can be sketchy in the area of electronic harrassment, defamation and abuses, he has witnessed successful cases regarding similar issues and there are loopholes in the law for being succesful in hauling someone over the coals in some way or such, aslong as there are reasonable grounds.

Personally i do agree with a few things that were said regarding peters porn web links (he himself was aware of my opinion at the actual time which i made clear again lastnight when he brought it up via msn regarding a thread at aspietrash, i even made my stance public again in Jizz's thread) but i would not refer to someone as being a paedo without having more information and a reasonable amount of proof to back up my opinions/claims. If i honestly believed someone was of that nature and/or a danger to children or others i would alert the relevant authorities/people to investigate rather than jump to conclusions and make that type of judgement straight away for myself without more detailed information/investigation and/or substantial proof etc. There are certain things you should be careful about saying and certain labels you should be very careful and wary of handing out. Mud does indeed stick, you can have your opinions and speculate but you still need to be careful in regards to what you say when dealing with such sensitive topics especially if you dont have the proof necessary as there could be big consequences for both parties including when it comes to their reputations (the consequences are much bigger for the other person if you are indeed wrong).

Hey i was thinking...maybe Purposeful could get Robert into knitting. ;D

I think the key is to not pay much attention to what is said by Robert and his bitching buddies because we all know whats going on there, well most of us can read between the lines. Its all silly and very immature, especially the directing certain people to intensity to sign up in order to retreive "certain information" to relay back, which he apparently got huffy about when one person began to like it here and wouldnt give him what he wanted, but i must admit it is oh so funny. The callouts always crack me up inside too even though part of me does get embarassed for him.

I wouldnt get too bothered by it Odeon and dont let it put you off running for admin either, dont fuck up my list!.  ;) :)

By the way as you can tell, given im posting in this thread im bored as fuck tonight, give it another hour and i will wake up tommorrow regretting sending filthy txts and x-rated photos to the guy i had been seeing. :laugh:



http://www.stimmy.net/aspietrash/viewtopic.php?t=77
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14:10 - Moarskrillex42: She said something about knowing why I wanted to move to Glasgow when she came in. She plopped down on my bed and told me to go ahead and open it for her.

14:11 - Peter5930: So, she thought I was your lover and that I was sending you a box full of sex toys, and that you wanted to move to Glasgow to be with me?

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Re: Robert's called you, Dunc
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2006, 01:24:19 PM »
I think he will find he has no grounds to sue me for libel, or bring a lawsuit against me in general, i dont see how he would be fruitful legally regarding the site for that matter either, my friend was more interested in the way aspietrash conducted itself in relation to certain threads (which was why he mentioned a few legal things regarding certain comments, and other options for dealing with them and sites).

Saying someone is "messed up in the head" or my other opinions which i worded carefully and did my best to dilute are not considered reasonable grounds for libel, even if i had said "RobertN is mentally ill" (when he could prove with the help of a psychiatrist etc he wasnt, and he didnt do anything to give me the assumption he was, which i didnt say in that context anyways) that still wouldnt hold anywhere near the same legal implications as calling someone a paedophile even though it may be considered libel depending on the background and why it was said, what made me come to that conclusion etc, it would be down to the interpretation and discretion of the judge holding the case if he/she thought there were reasonable grounds to allow the case to be heard in his/her court in the first place. Also in relation to me commenting on Robert being messed up, if there were reasonable grounds (which i know for a fact there isnt) then it still wouldnt prove fruitful since Roberts behaviour and comments have done him no favour (here and especially aspietrash) so it would be considered likely that someone may develop the opinion that he is indeed "messed up" as it is apparent he has issues. There would be many a defence to use.

I think i will stick to the opinion of a successful barrister from the high court who has been in the profession for years, with the right associates, experience and knowledge regarding legal rules, statutes (how to apply them) and cases, thank you Robert. :laugh:

You obviously no nothing of my financial status either. ;D

I dont think theres any need to keep informing us of the bitching threads at aspie trash Peter except for amusement when we are bored, we all know the rubbish that gets written there, it isnt all that interesting or impactable is it, its the same old same old, and only really worth reading when theres nothing else to read and the days going a bit slow and uneventful. :P
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