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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2009, 12:00:48 PM »
Bint: Because RB doesn't agree with you in re conspiracy theories doesn't mean he knows fuck all.

As for me, I've never believed the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assasination, esp. the Magic Bullet Theory. Bullets just don't behave like that after exiting the human body. And there's the little matter of if Oswald was firing from behind the motorcade, why did JFK's head go back? And how the Hell did Oswald manage a clear view of the road from the sixth floor of the book depository? If you can explain these things w/out calling me a wacko or an idiot, I'll gladly listen.

Personally, I like the FAMILY GUY theory that Oswald was trying to shoot the assassin on the grassy knoll and missed. Badly.  :P
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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2009, 12:14:02 PM »
I couldn't give a shite if there's a hidden world order ran by reptiles, chemtrails to control our minds or any of that bollocks.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2009, 12:27:28 PM »
"TO SERVE MAN" is a cookbook, Shleed. Would you like fries with that?
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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2009, 02:00:08 PM »
Bint: Because RB doesn't agree with you in re conspiracy theories doesn't mean he knows fuck all.

As for me, I've never believed the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assasination, esp. the Magic Bullet Theory. Bullets just don't behave like that after exiting the human body. And there's the little matter of if Oswald was firing from behind the motorcade, why did JFK's head go back? And how the Hell did Oswald manage a clear view of the road from the sixth floor of the book depository? If you can explain these things w/out calling me a wacko or an idiot, I'll gladly listen.

Personally, I like the FAMILY GUY theory that Oswald was trying to shoot the assassin on the grassy knoll and missed. Badly.  :P

The only conspiracy, in the JFK assasination, that makes any snese to me, is tht LBJ and J.Edgar Hoover were behind it. There's a ton of eywitness accounts to a meeting between the two the day before JFK came to Texas. It's been reported by those who were there, that Hoover left the meeting saying "The Kenedy brothers will never embarass us again".

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2009, 02:04:24 PM »
Bint: Because RB doesn't agree with you in re conspiracy theories doesn't mean he knows fuck all.

I know, I was in a bitchy mood and he was annoying me.

I used to be somewhat obsessed with conspiracy theories believe it or not.  Like the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove and all that shit.  It doesn't take much brains though to realise the government is fucked up and that if you have influence and money, you can do anything.

You should read this book, it's quite funny:




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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 02:31:12 AM »
Bint: Because RB doesn't agree with you in re conspiracy theories doesn't mean he knows fuck all.

As for me, I've never believed the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assasination, esp. the Magic Bullet Theory. Bullets just don't behave like that after exiting the human body. And there's the little matter of if Oswald was firing from behind the motorcade, why did JFK's head go back? And how the Hell did Oswald manage a clear view of the road from the sixth floor of the book depository? If you can explain these things w/out calling me a wacko or an idiot, I'll gladly listen.

Personally, I like the FAMILY GUY theory that Oswald was trying to shoot the assassin on the grassy knoll and missed. Badly.  :P

The only conspiracy, in the JFK assasination, that makes any snese to me, is tht LBJ and J.Edgar Hoover were behind it. There's a ton of eywitness accounts to a meeting between the two the day before JFK came to Texas. It's been reported by those who were there, that Hoover left the meeting saying "The Kenedy brothers will never embarass us again".

I've wondered if maybe the Mafia didn't have a hand in it too. Sam Giancana was pretty pissed at RFK for the racketeering and gambling investigations he did. According to Gore Vidal, someone suggested to Giancana that he should have Bobby Kennedy killed. Giancana allegedly replied something to the effect of "why should I go after the #2 guy when I can get the head guy?" I'm sure that, if he actually said that, his language was much more colorful.
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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 03:37:38 PM »
Bint: Because RB doesn't agree with you in re conspiracy theories doesn't mean he knows fuck all.

As for me, I've never believed the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assasination, esp. the Magic Bullet Theory. Bullets just don't behave like that after exiting the human body. And there's the little matter of if Oswald was firing from behind the motorcade, why did JFK's head go back? And how the Hell did Oswald manage a clear view of the road from the sixth floor of the book depository? If you can explain these things w/out calling me a wacko or an idiot, I'll gladly listen.

Personally, I like the FAMILY GUY theory that Oswald was trying to shoot the assassin on the grassy knoll and missed. Badly.  :P

He ahd a clear view but not for long enough, as I recall it.
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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 01:51:15 AM »
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"Earth is the cradle of Humanity. But one cannot live in a cradle forever."--Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 11:31:56 PM »
Nothing is real.  We're all a dream.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 02:34:32 AM »
Cats foot iron claw
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Great album, with some of the best cover art ever.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 03:51:37 AM »
I don't believe in ZOG theories or David Icke's crap (at least not most of it), but facts are:

* That the "war against terrorism" is an excuse to get rid of civil rights for criminals and law-abiding citizen alike.

* That most governments try to disarm "their" people either by bans or control of guns, so that any succesful uprising will be impossible. Most of the Europeans and many Americans have already been brainwashed to voluntarily go into this trap.

* That superstates like EU and the North American Union are being formed, like in "1984".

* That freedom of speech is being continously infringed.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 05:02:36 AM »
I do believe there is a top level group that manipulates most of human civilization. However it's a flexible and decentralized entity, and usually manipulates as needed to advance their goals, and leaves the rest to the ordinary people.

It's like a guy who anonymously calls you unexpectedly to reveal revelations to you when you're in a major strife; something so bad you're royally fucked (like as in jail time soon). He somehow know everything about you, especially about the problem you have. They offer either to solve it or provide a solution, but first in exchange for your cooperation with them as in, a 'small' favour. Once done, they solve your problem, tie up loose ends so you're completely safe and you never hear from them again. Little do you know, this same anonymous guy might have caused your problem in the first place, indirectly, by playing the same trick on someone else to do a favour. Since the favour the caller asks might likely be illegal or very embarrassing; and since you're hiding your own problems too, you wouldn't dare mention about it to others and just be glad to be out of the entire mess clean. This caller then later recruits others into the game in exchange for immense wealth and the ability for them to grant each others favours when needed. Eventually enough people join in the game, and an entire organisation is formed and dedicated to this secret cabal of manipulative callers. It even gets to a point where public figures are recruited by this cabal to act as their voice, and allows more abilities such as in person manipulations.

No-one dares whistle blow on it with evidence, because this cabal is powerful enough to absolute destroy someone who defies them. Also as mentioned before, the whistle blower has his/her own skeletons in the closest, so he/she would end up incriminating themselves.

As far as this cabal would be concerned, they want people to believe it's only a conspiracy theory and think nothing of it. They are also careful to pick their targets, making sure that at no point, anyone curious enough can trace the trail of all calls to the original mystery caller or contact.

That's one theory on how such a secret cabal would operate. Based on a web of lies, deceit and fear.

Not saying that's how it really works, but it's an interesting concept.
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Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 05:21:08 AM »
What's going on isn't a conspiracy, because it happens too openly. Though people believing in ZOG and lizzards from outer space are useful idiots to the assholes in charge: "He, look at that, you can't sincerely believe what those nutcases are talking about! Of course we're controlling guns, hunting terrorists, invading other countries and implanting RFID chips in you for your own security. Isn't that obvious? How would you be safe from lunatics and terrorists otherwise?"  :facepalm2:

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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 05:54:15 AM »
Well the best way to control opposition would be to create an environment for all of them to flock to, and then neutralize them by leading them astray in many directions. They will be so conflicted and disorganised with so many theories, they would pose minimal threat, and in some cases, an actual advantage to those truly in charge.

It's a beautiful scheme, and an old one too, a divide and conquer strategy.
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Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: Any conspiracy theorists? What do you think is real?
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 06:02:14 AM »
* That freedom of speech is being continously infringed.

Freedom of speech never existed in reality, since it basically contradicts itself.