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the bigots in california
« on: November 08, 2008, 08:14:49 AM »
passed a constitutional amendment stating that the state will only recognize marriages between a man and a woman.

i cannot believe that california is this bigoted against people who are different from themselves.

during the same election, californians voted to give animals which are raised for food a little more elbow room.  i don't understand why we care about an animals rights more than a persons rights.
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 09:31:51 AM »
Gays should be allowed to stuff up their marriages as much as those of us that aren't gay.
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 09:42:18 AM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 11:16:29 AM »
Well all the state really has to do is call them Civil Partnerships instead I gather - same as what goes on over here. The sole purpose of marriage as I gather (though this is decreasing in our degenerating society) is to provide a stable environment to raise children, something which most gay relationships are not geared towards.

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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 02:37:04 PM »
Well all the state really has to do is call them Civil Partnerships instead I gather - same as what goes on over here. The sole purpose of marriage as I gather (though this is decreasing in our degenerating society) is to provide a stable environment to raise children, something which most gay relationships are not geared towards.

As for bring up kids I think they might even be better geared toward it.  For one the hoops you have to jump through for adoption verses just not using birth control and squeezing out a kid. 
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 02:38:23 PM »
Well all the state really has to do is call them Civil Partnerships instead I gather - same as what goes on over here. The sole purpose of marriage as I gather (though this is decreasing in our degenerating society) is to provide a stable environment to raise children, something which most gay relationships are not geared towards.

don't be naive - it's about tax and inheritance.

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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 07:00:58 PM »
The CA Supreme Court will probably shrug and say their ruling supersedes a ballot initiative. So the Mormons et.al. will have to start from square 1. This time, we'll be ready for them.

BTW, why would Mormons want to define marriage as 1 man and 1 woman? Wouldn't that take the fun out of it for them?
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 07:31:02 PM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple

would you think the same if you worked for a company who had to raise your health insurance because suddenly all sorts of people decided to marry their friend on paper to get their friend and their friends kids covered under the company health care plan ? or how about if they said they could no longer afford to offer health insurance to their employee's after hundreds of new people where added to their plan because everyone saw a oppertunity to scam the system by pretending to be married to their friend with kids ?

how about if your taxes went up after hundreds of people jumped on the towns health care plan by marrying their friend that works for the town just for the free coverage for themselves & their kids ?



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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 08:04:31 PM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple

would you think the same if you worked for a company who had to raise your health insurance because suddenly all sorts of people decided to marry their friend on paper to get their friend and their friends kids covered under the company health care plan ? or how about if they said they could no longer afford to offer health insurance to their employee's after hundreds of new people where added to their plan because everyone saw a oppertunity to scam the system by pretending to be married to their friend with kids ?

how about if your taxes went up after hundreds of people jumped on the towns health care plan by marrying their friend that works for the town just for the free coverage for themselves & their kids ?



See? That's a conservative viewpoint, in my view.
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 08:04:57 PM »
Well all the state really has to do is call them Civil Partnerships instead I gather - same as what goes on over here. The sole purpose of marriage as I gather (though this is decreasing in our degenerating society) is to provide a stable environment to raise children, something which most gay relationships are not geared towards.

don't be naive - it's about tax and inheritance.


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... and healthcare, as Johnny points out.
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 08:36:12 PM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple

would you think the same if you worked for a company who had to raise your health insurance because suddenly all sorts of people decided to marry their friend on paper to get their friend and their friends kids covered under the company health care plan ? or how about if they said they could no longer afford to offer health insurance to their employee's after hundreds of new people where added to their plan because everyone saw a oppertunity to scam the system by pretending to be married to their friend with kids ?

how about if your taxes went up after hundreds of people jumped on the towns health care plan by marrying their friend that works for the town just for the free coverage for themselves & their kids ?



What's to stop them now if it's a man and a a woman?  I think there should be some basic insurance normal people can afford
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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2008, 11:54:31 PM »
It pisses me off when people butt their business in other peoples businesses. So what if two females want to get married or two males, they aren't hurting anyone if they are married, it's their life so leave them be.


When I first heard of it, I thought it was very weird because I had never heard of two women getting married or two men. Then my mother told me my uncles are married and I was like "weird." Then I got used to it and no longer found it weird. Oh why can't others learn the same?  >:(


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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 06:01:28 AM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple

would you think the same if you worked for a company who had to raise your health insurance because suddenly all sorts of people decided to marry their friend on paper to get their friend and their friends kids covered under the company health care plan ? or how about if they said they could no longer afford to offer health insurance to their employee's after hundreds of new people where added to their plan because everyone saw a oppertunity to scam the system by pretending to be married to their friend with kids ?

how about if your taxes went up after hundreds of people jumped on the towns health care plan by marrying their friend that works for the town just for the free coverage for themselves & their kids ?



What's to stop them now if it's a man and a a woman?  I think there should be some basic insurance normal people can afford

how many female friends do you have ?

overall most peoples friends are of the same sex

insurance sucks, people are just about captive to jobs because of it


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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 06:42:56 AM »
Well all the state really has to do is call them Civil Partnerships instead I gather - same as what goes on over here. The sole purpose of marriage as I gather (though this is decreasing in our degenerating society) is to provide a stable environment to raise children, something which most gay relationships are not geared towards.

As for bring up kids I think they might even be better geared toward it.  For one the hoops you have to jump through for adoption verses just not using birth control and squeezing out a kid. 
And how many actually do bring up kids. As for the latter I know all about it, and plenty of people in a straight marriage do it in fact. Adoption agencies are reluctant to give kids to gay couples, which I am inclined to agree with in the current climate.

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Re: the bigots in california
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 06:45:24 AM »
In Connecticut the courts just okayed gay marriage.  I really don't know why all these people have a stick up their ass about it.  If your not gay it doesn't really affect you at all who cares if they can get married.  Let them get just as fucked up as a regular couple

would you think the same if you worked for a company who had to raise your health insurance because suddenly all sorts of people decided to marry their friend on paper to get their friend and their friends kids covered under the company health care plan ? or how about if they said they could no longer afford to offer health insurance to their employee's after hundreds of new people where added to their plan because everyone saw a oppertunity to scam the system by pretending to be married to their friend with kids ?

how about if your taxes went up after hundreds of people jumped on the towns health care plan by marrying their friend that works for the town just for the free coverage for themselves & their kids ?



What's to stop them now if it's a man and a a woman?  I think there should be some basic insurance normal people can afford

how many female friends do you have ?

overall most peoples friends are of the same sex

insurance sucks, people are just about captive to jobs because of it

Asking me about how many female friends I have funny I am very much a loner in the true sense of the word how I found my wife I have no idea.  I know females that would do it for their kids though
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